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Windows Vista Enters Extended Support 330

yuhong writes "On April 10, the second Tuesday of April, Windows Vista will exit Mainstream Support and enter Extended Support. This means that no-charge (free) support will end, no further service packs will be created, nor will future IE versions (such as IE10) be available for Vista. Also, no new non-security hotfixes will be created or be available without an Extended Hotfix Support Agreement (EHSA). This will last for 5 years before support for Vista completely ends in 2017."
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Windows Vista Enters Extended Support

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  • Crap! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 08, 2012 @06:59PM (#39614659)

    I'm apparently way behind the times -- being perfectly happy with Windows XP!!!!

    • Same here. Since all I need it for is to run Outlook 2003 for our corporate crap, all I need is XP in a VM. Just some 40GB I can copy to whatever machine I want and run it with a single kvm command.
      Now if only calendaring and tasks would work in Thunderbird with Exchange...

    • Re:Crap! (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Eskarel ( 565631 ) on Sunday April 08, 2012 @10:54PM (#39615923)

      You're missing out, Windows 7 is actually a lot better than XP was, Vista you have an argument on, but 7 has a lot of nice stuff, not least of which is 64 bit support which doesn't suck.

      • Unless you manage the server yourself I'm not sure what all this stuff is. I use XP at home and Win7 at work. It's the same. It's an OS. You run stuff and it runs. The only difference I see is that the gui looks a little different, configuration stuff is in slightly different places and I occasionally accidentally rotate my damn monitor when I hit ctrl+alt+left when I mean to hit ctrl+left.

        Nevertheless, the next time I upgrade my home machine I'll go win7 for the 64 bit support. If you don't need more than
    • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Sunday April 08, 2012 @11:14PM (#39616043) Journal

      At my workplace, our systems still predominantly run XP Professional, with maybe 3 or 4 running Windows 7 Pro.

      Due to a budget crunch in 2009 through last year, we couldn't afford the planned upgrades, so we decided to make do with what we had. (EG. If a power supply died, we spent the $35 for another one and got the PC going again, vs. using it as a reason to upgrade to a whole new PC with a new OS on it.)

      Now, we're slowly rolling out some upgraded hardware and software (just finished upgrading all of our Microsoft Office 2003 installations to Office 2010 -- which we were basically forced against a wall to do, so we could retire our old Exchange Server 2003 and utilize a cloud hosted Exchange Server 2010). But Windows 7 deployment has, quite frankly, created more negatives for us than the positives it brings.

      Lack of driver support is a big issue. For example, the classic Adaptec 2940 series SCSI controller cards are no longer supported at all in 64-bit Windows 7. That's a problem for us, since we use a document management system with a group of dedicated "scan stations" people go to to scan in their documents each day. The scanners are old Ricoh SCSI based models that cost us many thousands of dollars each when we first bought them. They're still good workhorse scanners for our purposes and I can't really cost justify replacing them, at least until they fail on us. The only way I've found to make these work in Win 7 is to install the whole XP mode thing and run them in a virtualized XP session. That's ridiculous if you can just keep XP Pro on the computer instead!

      Our old HP plotters aren't supported in Windows 7 either, but again -- why replace an "ancient" but still good, working plotter with a new one that costs $14,000 or more, just because you'd like to have the latest $200 or so operating system on the PC it's attached to?

      From the systems administration side of things? Windows 7 annoys me because I can no longer browse the network and see the comments entered for each workstation. Under XP, I can double click the "Network Neighborhood" and look at all the PCs in the domain, and if they had description fields entered such as the name of the employee using the PC, they'd show up in the list. With 7, they decided that info was irrelevant, apparently, and no longer display it?!

      • by yuhong ( 1378501 )

        And SCSI is a standard interface. You can replace the controller card and still use your old SCSI scanners with it.

      • [quote]
        Lack of driver support is a big issue.
        Which gets me free printers and scanners now and then...

  • Oh no! (Score:4, Funny)

    by JosephTX ( 2521572 ) on Sunday April 08, 2012 @07:35PM (#39614871)

    I've been dreading the day I'd have to leave Vista behind!

    • Laugh all you want but I really have been afraid of this. Vista is the most recent version of Windows Microsoft gave me for free. When it stops working I'm in for a lot more WINE configuration unless Microsoft realizes how awesome I am and sends me a free copy of their latest OS.
  • by Kawahee ( 901497 ) on Sunday April 08, 2012 @08:05PM (#39615019) Homepage Journal

    I'm a developer at an ISV. Personally, I am waiting for XP to go. Microsoft has some great technology (WWSAPI, SQL Server 2012 LocalDB) that looks like it will solve some of the problems we need to solve with our application, but it's not available on XP. (Technically WWSAPI is, if you're willing to pay for the support contract.)

    As it stands, while XP is still supported (mainstream, extended or otherwise) and we have customers on it we are unable to use these new technologies.

    In the context of my job I don't think Vista is any different from 7 in terms of the technology available and the support effort.

    At home I find 7 to be superior to XP and Vista. I don't think Vista fills any niche, XP has the 5-year-old-low-powered-device market, but anywhere else really should be using 7.

    • I'm a developer at an ISV. Personally, I am waiting for XP to go. Microsoft has some great technology (WWSAPI, SQL Server 2012 LocalDB) that looks like it will solve some of the problems we need to solve with our application, but it's not available on XP.

      I'm really intrigued by why you couldn't use SQLite3 [] instead of SQL Server 2012 LocalDB [] or any API other than WWSAPI [] for web services.

  • I say what I'm about to say after using Windows 7 x64 for a while, and liking it.


    I got a used Core2 Duo laptop off ebay that came with XP. Went to upgrade it to something that would take advantage of the 64bit cores, but I realized I was out of MSDN licenses for Windows 7 x64. But I had all my Vista x64 license keys remaining for some reason. ;) Dreaded the thought, but went ahead and put Vista 64 on it, and put on all the services packs, etc.

    I am very surprised at myself saying this, but I am

    • I really think the sidebar (introduced in Vista, ripped back out in Win7) should have been longer lived.

      They ripped out the sidebar but left the widgets in. Now they just reside directly on the desktop, which is a better solution.

      • by KlomDark ( 6370 )

        Not when you want to still see your gadgets when running maximized. Sure, you can set your gadgets to "Always on top", but then they are always in the wrong place it seems.

  • ...On XPSP3. We'll skip Vista and will probably wind up running Win7 or something like it, virtualized. Around 2015 or so.

If graphics hackers are so smart, why can't they get the bugs out of fresh paint?