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Internet Responds To Racist Article, Gets Author Fired 1208

In the wake of the Trayvon Martin tragedy in February, many publications posted articles about "the talk" — a phrase denoting the conversation many black parents have at some point with their children to explain the realities of racism. Last Thursday, writer John Derbyshire penned an article titled "The Talk: Nonblack Version," which codified a similar set of lessons he had given to his children over the years. Unfortunately, those lessons turned out to be horribly racist themselves. "The remarkably long list of how to teach children to stay safe by avoiding black people goes on for two pages and Derbyshire contends is a true lifesaver. There is no irony or clarification that, perhaps, this is a joke, no matter how much you may want to find a disclaimer after you’re done reading." Reader concealment writes to point out that the internet and the media vocalized their disgust quickly and at length, and now Derbyshire has been fired from his position at the conservative National Review magazine (the offending article appeared in a different publication called Taki's Magazine).
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Internet Responds To Racist Article, Gets Author Fired

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2012 @03:56PM (#39622167)

    When I was a kid, I had a liberal stepdad and a conservative dad. I always thought my dad was just a racist who didn't know what he was talking about. At one point we had it out and so I left my lilly-white hometown to to live with my mom and stepdad in what happened to be a predominantly black school district (which my liberal stepdad considered a great opportunity for me to learn a valuable cultural lesson). After I got a harsh lesson in anti-white racism by getting my ass kicked for about the 10th time at said school, I realized that dad may not be so stupid after all and moved back with in him. It was one of those hard lessons in life about the difference between how things *should* be and how they actually *are*. It's not that my dad wanted to teach me to be some racist cross-burner or something, he just wanted to teach me that racism cuts BOTH ways--and that walking into the wrong school/neighborhood/bar with white skin can be just as dangerous as the vice versa. And it's a lot easier to learn that lesson the easy way than the hard way, believe me.

    I like to think that maybe things have changed since I was a kid. I'm not sure, as I learned to avoid these situations altogether by keeping my dumb ass out of where I wasn't wanted.

    Of course, no one is ever going to say any of that publicly. You're more likely in the modern world to encounter the Loch Ness monster than any truly honest dialogue on race.

    • by alphatel ( 1450715 ) * on Monday April 09, 2012 @03:59PM (#39622209)
      It happens on both sides. Some black parents tell their kids to segregate themselves and establish identity. One question though: If a black scholar wrote an article on how to keep the white man's hands out of your pockets, would they also get fired?
      • by mykos ( 1627575 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:45PM (#39622871)

        If a black scholar wrote an article on how to keep the white man's hands out of your pockets, would they also get fired?

        I don't know if they'd get fired, but I'd be interested in reading the article. Between the bailouts and the wars, white men have quite a few hands in my pockets.

      • by malkavian ( 9512 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:51PM (#39622991)

        Possibly not. In Bristol, UK, there was a City Councillor (herself of African descent, and oddly, spending most of her time in Florida) who accused another councillor of being a "coconut", which is a racist slur meaning someone who is "black/brown on the outside, and white on the inside". This happened in session (on the official public record). After having several firings of caucasians over implicit racist slurs, this one was practically ignored. It took a big backlash in the public to get the politicians to even begin an investigation. The councillor herself stated "I can't be racist, because I'm black.".
        In the end, she got a slap on the wrist.

        Yes, racism does cut both ways. However, by and large, you don't get to claim racism unless your skin is non-white.

        Studies confirm that there is a general racial bias in everyone (succinctly put in Avenue Q's "Everyone's a little bit Racist"). However, being adults, we should pretty much be trying to accept that we're flawed individuals, and get on with making everyone's life a bit better as long as they live up to society's expectations (if you're arrogant, violent and antisocial, don't expect people to like you whatever the colour of your skin).

        In the article, there are some actual truths. Basically, in any given social segment of any size, you'll meet all kinds of people. Nice and nasty and everything in between. Treat people as people, because that's who they are.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:06PM (#39622289)

      Like a lot of these types of things, it's really a CLASS issue, not a race issue. There's plenty of predominantly white if not totally white neighborhoods that other white people don't go into because either the neighborhood is a lot more poor than "you," and you're in danger, or the neighborhood is too rich for you, and you'll get the cops called on you. You don't have to have a different color skin if you drive the wrong kind of car, or aren't dressed appropriately. Humans are tribal, and trival societies aren't known for their inclusive nature.

    • I dunno, could be you're just an asshole.

      I'm white, but went to a predominantly black High School in a major metro. I had a few altercations, but I never had my ass kicked.

      As one of my (black) friends so eloquently put it to me: "You know when they're talking about the N*****s up at G******d, they're talking 'bout you, too."

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by bbbaldie ( 935205 )
      (standing, applauding)

      Picture the following situation: a black neighborhood watch volunteer kills an unarmed white kid. Two white preachers jump into the fray and make loud declarations about the racial nature of the killing.

      They would be roasted by the media and the mainstream public as racist nutbags, true?

      So, why don't the reverends Sharpton and Jackson get the same treatment?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      So would you say...around blacks, never relax?

      You probably deserved it. I was white kid #20/34 at a predominately black and hispanic high school and I never heard of anyone catching a beatdown for being white/black/hispanic/whatever. If you caught an asswhupping it was mostly for talking shit, or some retarded beef outside of school. I never got real shit for being white outside of some jokes.

      Anecdotes are anecdotes.

    • by F69631 ( 2421974 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:29PM (#39622615)

      There is two levels of warnings that parents can give. One is "Don't go to the poor (=black) neighborhoods alone at night" which might be at times unjust generalization but I wouldn't try to crucify anyone for giving that kind of advice. The other level is what this guy wrote... None of the quotes are taken out of context here:

      Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.

      Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.

      If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date

      Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.


      Those aren't necessarily even the most outrageous instructions but there were just so many to choose from...

    • by s.petry ( 762400 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:55PM (#39623041)

      Having grown up in Detroit, I know very well the perils of being the wrong race in the wrong area. I have been the victim, and know many people who were also victims of simply being white in the wrong neighborhood (car broke down, made a wrong turn down the wrong block, etc...). A real problem is, that you can't talk about that problem (racism against whites) without being declared a racist. Minorities that have been the victims of legal racism seem to want retribution much more than equality?

      Now with that said, I read through the article. Some statements match the way things are, street wise, for a guy that grew up in a city that is largely anti-white. Other statements seem to be something from a Klan rally. I can see why he was canned and why there was backlash.

    • by AK Marc ( 707885 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @05:35PM (#39623605)
      Your dad taught you to hate differences. The people who beat you up were taught the same thing. That doesn't make your dad right, it just makes your dad and their dads both wrong.

      I went to a 100% minority school (I'm white. Even while there, it was 100% minority, as a desegregation plan had me attending classes there while not enrolled there, since so many incorrectly point out the contradiction/inconsistency of a white person talking about their experiences at a 100% minority school). I walked home with a friend one day. Children (up to about age 14) in the neighborhood ran back into their homes and shouted loud enough for everyone to hear "there's a white person walking down the street." If anyone had wanted to do anything bad to me, I'm sure nobody would have seen a thing, despite the fact that almost everyone there at that time walked out of their homes or peeked out the window at me. For most, their school teachers, welfare workers, and the police are the only white people they see. There was no animosity. I'm sure most were just making sure I wasn't a government employee wanting to do them harm.

      You are right that there is a difference between "should be" and "is" but that doesn't mean "is" should be taught as if it's somehow "right." The rules are the same everywhere. Blend in or stand out, and standing out can get you in trouble. Doesn't matter if you are in Israel, Texas, Iraq, California, or either of the two unnamed areas you reference in your story.

      . I'm not sure, as I learned to avoid these situations altogether by keeping my dumb ass out of where I wasn't wanted.

      You found the racism. It isn't "stay away from blacks". It's "stay aware of your surroundings." Racializing it by your dad was wrong. It's incorrect (though generally good enough), even if easier to express. I felt safer as the one unusual white person in a black neighborhood than in many of the hick white areas I've been.

  • Why is one list racist and not the other? Is it because the color of skin each list is warning you about? Isn't that really messed up? I mean, making those kinds of judgments based on skin color is really messed up in the first place. That's a given. But isn't really weird for it to be somehow OK to warn against one skin color but not the other?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:06PM (#39622291)

      One warns about the existence of racism in general, not "all white people". The other said to avoid area where black people live or govern, and to avoid conversation with unknown black people. They're not remotely the same thing with the races reversed, despite many many attempts to pretend they are.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:07PM (#39622295)

      One talk says "Be careful, because racist people will treat you poorly, and bad things can happen because of it". The other one says "Be careful, because this other race is much worse than your race, so stay away from members of that race or bad things can happen. (oh but make one black friend so you don't look racist, although there's so few "good" black people that you'll have heavy competition among whites looking for a black friend)". Do you see the difference now? Seriously, that was the most racist fucking thing I've ever read. I feel dirty.

      • No, they both explicitly mention skin color, not attitudes like racism. I resent the implication that because I'm white I'm any more racist than anybody else. And most of us (black, white, whatever) are racist to an extent. We all prefer people who 'look like us' or look like the people we're used to.

        Now, the 'good black people' section I think is where he starts being really ridiculous. In my experience in living in predominantly black neighborhoods, the number of people who will be decent to you far outnumber the ones who will hurt you for being in the wrong neighborhood. But the ones who will hurt you for being in the wrong neighborhood are numerous enough that a bit of extra wariness is worthwhile. And, in my experience, those neighborhoods do tend to be more violent on average.

        I also don't feel this is about people's skin color. I would feel very differently about living in a neighborhood dominated by recent immigrants from Africa, for example. But I strongly suspect the author does. I think the author really is being not-kosher. But his list is not the reason why.

      • by characterZer0 ( 138196 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:55PM (#39623043)

        He did not say that one race was better than another. He said that people of one race in a particular country statistically have different behavior patterns than another race in the same country, and then made a few inferences.

        Instead of calling him a racist, point out the flaws in his data and logic.

    • I think it's the content of the end of the list, 10f-h, and the specific calling-out of black people in events where any person should be considered a threat (10i). But I also think that it's very easy to go over that blurry line of what is and is not racist.

  • The Talk (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Johnny Mnemonic ( 176043 ) <mdinsmore@[ ] ['gma' in gap]> on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:03PM (#39622263) Homepage Journal

    I wasn't aware of "The Talk" before reading about it in the summary.

    As a (white) father of two young boys, I can't imagine a harder conversation. "Remember all that talk about how you have unlimited potential? Yeah, it's all bullshit. Fight the power (but dont' get killed)."

    I can't imagine how it looks to have the hope in their eyes die in front of you.

    • Re:The Talk (Score:4, Insightful)

      by TheGratefulNet ( 143330 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @05:40PM (#39623649)

      because: usually its in your 30's and 40's that hope is lost (you see the world for the injust place it really is). some people its ealier and some its later. some never see the real world; but most people lose their starry eyed idealism in middle age.

      I'll say it again, the world is no disney picture. things eat each other 'out there' and I'm not just talking literally.

      lets also admit that we encircle ourselves in lots of layers. your religion, your color, where your parents were born, your weath level, your education level, the area in the country you live, the country itself, the region of the world.

      countries and cultures fight all the time. its an us-vs-them theme and it gets repeated at the macro and micro levels.

      color is just one of the circles. lets realize that its one but only one and that if we ever solved 'the race issue' how would we solve the country/culture/language/vocation/etc issue? we will ALWAYS draw lines around our groups and groups of groups.

      I think its a bad thing, overall. but its how humans and some animals are wired. it just is.

  • Few Surprises (Score:5, Insightful)

    by American AC in Paris ( 230456 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:04PM (#39622269) Homepage

    Discovering that John Derbyshire is a racist is somewhat akin to discovering that the sun rises in the east. The man's been quite candid about his views for years.

    Kudos to National Review for finally discovering this fact and taking the blindingly obvious course of action, though.

    • Re:Few Surprises (Score:5, Insightful)

      by MBCook ( 132727 ) <> on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:29PM (#39622593) Homepage

      I've never heard of him before, so I went and read the article. After a few paragraphs, I was thinking "this guy is definitely politically incorrect, but does he really deserve to be fired over this?"

      Then I read the various sub-points under 10, and yes, it was that bad.

      Then I kept reading, and it just got worse.

      Wow. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard to turn this into "A Modest Proposal" style satire. By the end, where is he talking about the relative value of "IWSB"s, I mean he is one or two steps away from saying that "IWSB"s should be bought and sold so as to provide the most value for society.

  • intolerance of intolerance is not the same thing as intolerance itself

    • by chispito ( 1870390 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:22PM (#39622481)

      intolerance of intolerance is not the same thing as intolerance itself

      Except that it is. You are saying that everyone needs to work your value of tolerance into their belief system, changing that belief system as necessary. You'll get more results if you are clearer about what you want.

      • by NeutronCowboy ( 896098 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:58PM (#39623075)

        No, it's not.

        You are saying that everyone needs to work your value of tolerance into their belief system, changing that belief system as necessary.

        Yes, but tolerance itself is a very different value than "brush your teeth", "eat an apple a day" or "work hard" and "pray to a specific entity in a specific place". Here's why:
        * tolerance is a value that allows for the peaceful coexistence of a lot of people with lots of different ideas on what is "right. Intolerance is a value that focuses on segregation across many lines.
        * tolerance is a value focuses on the acceptance of others. intolerance is a value that focuses on the rejection of others.

        As a result, intolerance of intolerance is absolutely not the same thing as generic intolerance. And quite frankly, anyone who claims that it is is either is a shining example of why a liberal arts education is important, or ought to live life alone, outside any group.

    • by mosb1000 ( 710161 ) <> on Monday April 09, 2012 @05:06PM (#39623217)

      Murdering a murderer isn't the same as murder itself. Stealing from a thief isn't theft. Creating on your cheating wife isn't cheating. A sarcastic response to an intellectually dishonest comment isn't sarcasm.

      Black is white, up is down, and east is west, but you and people who agree with you on this still don't know what you're talking about. Either you believe in being tolerant, or you don't. Believing that intolerance is wrong, except when it applies to intolerance is a dangerous kind of doublethink. Someone who is intellectually honest with himself will know that if you believe it's ok to be intolerant of one thing, it may be ok to be intolerant of another.

      The reality is you should tolerate some things and not tolerate others. A blanket enthusiasm for tolerance is completely unwarranted and nonsensical. Do you think you should tolerate rape, or murder, or theft, or any number of other things that are almost universally understood as bad? You're simply holding up a principle that makes no sense.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:10PM (#39622331)

    Here's a quote:

    "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage of my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved".

    Who said that? Oh yeah...Jesse Jackson. It's not like white people are the only ones who don't want to walk by a 6'3" black teenager in a hoodie at night. Black people don't want to walk by them as well.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:26PM (#39622547)

      Culture and law has been against the black community in America for how many hundreds of years?

      How many generations were denied opportunity and a chance to rise above their parents?

      How much influence do these factors have on the education and by proxy the crime rates of the black community?

      Who created and reinforced these cultural and legal practices which helped to segregate and harm the black community?

      Jesse Jackson is lamenting about the very real consequences of the racist policies and agendas in the United States. Many of which lead to higher rates of incarceration because of broken families, lack of education, lack of job opportunities, and poor and manipulative housing conditions.

      Because you couldn't possibly believe that blacks commit more crimes because of a natural preponderance, right?

    • by MozeeToby ( 1163751 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:36PM (#39622723)

      "There is nothing more painful to me..."

      And that right there is the difference difference. Everyone has prejudices, they're driven into our subconscious from day we're born to the day we die. Do you fight against them, consciously avoid letting them affect your decision making, feel shame over them? Or do you rationalize them with bad science, teach them to your children, and pretend that your prejudices are not only accurate, but also just?

  • by xstonedogx ( 814876 ) <> on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:12PM (#39622345)

    Internet Anthropomorphized, Is Mildly Amused

  • by RandLS ( 637452 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:14PM (#39622363)
    This guy gets fired, Tyler Perry gets a pass for describing how his mother always taught him how to act if he got held up by white cops and then suing for discrimination basically because 2 white cops didn't know he was famous. All in the same week, and with no incredulity about the double standard. I love our media. And by love, i mean despise.
  • refutation please (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fche ( 36607 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:14PM (#39622367)

    "Unfortunately, those lessons turned out to be horribly racist themselves."

    Be that as it may. It would be worthwhile to provide an item-by-item refutation to the article, than simply scream "racism" and leave it at that.

  • One time... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:16PM (#39622385)

    ... (and I suppose everyone has these kinds of stories) but when I was a teenager I used to live in this really dumpy run-down apartment block. We had befriended a black family that lived downstairs and I used to play basketball frequently with the two boys. They were quite a bit younger than me - I was 16-17 at the time and they were 10-12. Anyway, one day we're playing basketball at the elementary school playground across the street and I said, just joking around, "blah blah blah, my brother" and the youngest kid said to me, almost angrily, "you AIN'T my brother." That really threw me. Here was just a little black kid hanging around with this older white boy from the neighborhood and it was all fun and games up to a point but when I referred to him as "my brother" it was like everything hateful he'd been indoctrinated in - and, yes, it was clear he'd been carefully indoctrinated - about whites came up. I learned reverse-racism was alive and while and I must say it shocked me. One can think everything is hunky-dory and that one is being all culturally enlightened by regularly hanging out with black people, but there is a whole separate side to the culture that is never revealed to you and certainly nothing about how they really tend to feel about whites (which, admittedly, is often justified by narrow-minded and racist whites which an average white kid doesn't ever experience). The racial divide still has a very, very long way to go.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:19PM (#39622425)

    ...that PEOPLE (irregardless of whether they're black, white, red, yellow, green or purple) are the problem.

  • Holy fuck (Score:5, Interesting)

    by bigstrat2003 ( 1058574 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:19PM (#39622427)
    That starts out somewhat coherent and reasonable, and just goes off the deep end. I can't say I feel sorry, at all, for this guy getting fired. He did have one good point, though:

    Among your fellow citizens are forty million who identify as black, and whom I shall refer to as black. The cumbersome (and MLK-noncompliant) term “African-American” seems to be in decline, thank goodness. “Colored” and “Negro” are archaisms. What you must call “the ‘N’ word” is used freely among blacks but is taboo to nonblacks.

    While it's dangerous to make generalizations across an entire section of the population, especially one that is only defined by a superficial characteristic (I imagine that there are quite a few black people who are seriously offended by the use of the word "nigger" even if it is uttered by another black person), it seems to be largely the social norm that the word is OK to use if you're black, and offensive if you're not. That's a bullshit standard, and it bothers me. Either it's OK for everyone, or it's OK for no one.

    Also, he's absolutely right about "African-American" being a stupid term that needs to die. Not only does it fail to recognize that many people feel no particular connection to their ancestry, African or otherwise, but it assumes that every person with dark skin is of African descent. I went to college with a (black) dude who was from Jamaica. Should he have been called "African-American", even though he was neither African, nor American? Stupid.

  • by crankyspice ( 63953 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:21PM (#39622457)

    Not to defend Derbyshire, but, what he said (albeit, in much greater obnoxious detail) isn't all that different from what The Rev. Jesse has noted:

    Even Jesse Jackson said a few years ago, "There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." []

    • by MozeeToby ( 1163751 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:42PM (#39622839)

      No, Jesse Jackson said he has a subconscious and shameful (to himself) fear of black youths in certain environments. This guy, said to his kids "Don't go where black people gather, if black people show up at an event leave, you are almost certainly smarter than any random black person you're going to meet, and black people in positions of authority deserve more scrutiny than their white counterparts". You don't see the difference?

  • by sunking2 ( 521698 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:22PM (#39622463)
    He got fired because apparently enough people were upset with his views that it threatened to hit the companies bottom line. There is a subtle difference.
  • Glenn Beck effect (Score:5, Insightful)

    by saveferrousoxide ( 2566033 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:26PM (#39622537)
    I was right there with him until I sensed the twist in the logic right at the end of paragraph 5. Then paragraph 6 took the left turn at Albuquerque and it all when horribly wrong culminating in paragraph 15 identifying "desirable" black people as trophies for powerful/rich white people. At that point I was left open mouthed, not so much at what he said as at the fact he seemed to genuinely believe this was not a racist viewpoint because it was backed up by "facts" of some sort and qualified by "personal experience." Glenn Beck, you've met your match!
  • by msobkow ( 48369 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:27PM (#39622557) Homepage Journal

    The way I look at it, everyone is a minority. It's just a matter of picking some aspect of your heritage which isn't common amongst the population, and boom, you're special.

    Except that everyone is special.

    So no one is.

  • by sdguero ( 1112795 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:30PM (#39622629)
    Except it was one line:

    "Just keep in mind that while most whites think people are racist, blacks know people are racist."

    He (white guy) grew up in a black neighborhood in Detroit during the 1960s.
  • by Cazekiel ( 1417893 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:31PM (#39622655)

    I went to the Trayvon Martin March held in the city closest to us. As a white woman, I walked up to the City Hall thinking I'd be on the outside looking in. When I made my leave, I realized that one day, I would have to give my blond-haired, blue-eyed son The Talk--not because he'd be a target for discrimination, but he will no doubt witness acts of racism and discrimination. He will have friends of all races as our once White Bread Town, USA has become much more diverse. I want him to know that I got 'The Talk' from my racist grandmother, someone too stuck in the 30's to understand where the world was going in present-time, and how that was wrong. We talk about the curse we give our kids with religious indoctrination, and that should apply to any views: political, racial, etc.

    And if I may add, if given the choice to walk down a dark street with a group of black guys on the left, white boys on the right, I'm hanging a louie. Especially if the white guys are of the frat-boy variety. I've dealt with this first-hand. Walking around on the dangerous North Side of the city I marched in is seen as an incredible risk, but I've never been harassed in doing so. I go there all the time, just for a Puerto Rican bakery, ffs. Walking by a fraternity on a prestigious college campus? They were yards and yards away, and I walked away feeling dirty. From everything I've dealt with in life, 'The Talk' given to black men seems to include more lessons about respect than what the white 'n rich boys get.

  • by night_flyer ( 453866 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @04:37PM (#39622743) Homepage

    by Frederick Douglass, a freed slave and prominent statesmen before, during, and after the War Between the States.

    "What shall we do with the Negro?" I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us!

    Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us!

    If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are wormeaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature's plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall.

    And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone!

  • by Quantus347 ( 1220456 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @05:00PM (#39623099)
    Having some sort of talk about the realities of racism is a sad necessity for many parts of the US, but that is a separate thing entirely from this guy's List. This is simply an example of a sheltered man who does not know enough to realize he is projecting his personal frustrations onto an entire race, and instead thinks they are somehow rational or justified. Some gems are:

    (10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.
    (11) The mean intelligence of blacks is much lower than for whites. The least intelligent ten percent of whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of blacks have IQs that low. Only one black in six is more intelligent than the average white; five whites out of six are more intelligent than the average black. These differences show in every test of general cognitive ability that anyone, of any race or nationality, has yet been able to devise. They are reflected in countless everyday situations. “Life is an IQ test.”
    (13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.
    (15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).
  • by metrometro ( 1092237 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @05:02PM (#39623141)

    As reported in National Review

    "Anyone who has read Derb in our pages knows he’s a deeply literate, funny, and incisive writer. I direct anyone who doubts his talents to his delightful first novel, “Seeing Calvin Coolidge in a Dream,” or any one of his “Straggler” columns in the books section of NR. Derb is also maddening, outrageous, cranky, and provocative. His latest provocation, in a webzine, lurches from the politically incorrect to the nasty and indefensible. We never would have published it, but the main reason that people noticed it is that it is by a National Review writer. Derb is effectively using our name to get more oxygen for views with which we’d never associate ourselves otherwise. So there has to be a parting of the ways. Derb has long danced around the line on these issues, but this column is so outlandish it constitutes a kind of letter of resignation. It’s a free country, and Derb can write whatever he wants, wherever he wants. Just not in the pages of NR or NRO, or as someone associated with NR any longer." []

  • Prejudice = fear (Score:4, Interesting)

    by gestalt_n_pepper ( 991155 ) on Monday April 09, 2012 @05:06PM (#39623221)

    At least it does for me. Look, I grew up in a small isolated town of 3000 or so. All white population. Very little overt prejudice against anyone of another race. It just didn't come up. OK, I grow up, go to college, then move to a large (1 million +) city. Since I'm fresh out of college, I live in a poor black neighborhood where I'm threatened at bus stops, had my car torched, had bottles thrown at me and been mugged. 7 incidents of that nature in 7 years there. 6 out of those 7 incidents involved a black person.

    So, I wasn't raised to hate anyone. Before I got to the city, I wasn't scared on anyone based on race. After 7 years, however, I had developed a finely tuned paranoia regarding young black men. I avoided them on the subway, bus and especially bus stops. I would cross the street to avoid crowds of them. Each incident (other than the white panhandler who tried to beat me with an umbrella and caused me to start avoiding street people) made that fear a little worse.

    Is that fair or rational? No. There were plenty of exceptions, and plenty of decent, friendly black people too, but the little reptile in the back of my brain doesn't work that way. He's all about survival and he frightens easily. He's got nothing else to go on but appearance, and black skin with "African" facial features in a bad neighborhood is a "be scared" signal. And this little reptile in my head, he's got a great memory, but he's not under my conscious control.

    As long as there's no fear, I have no problem when I go to lunch with black male co-workers, but then, we're not in a bad neighborhood, my co-workers are all smart, well educated and funny, and while at least one of them could take me apart with one arm, he is as about as threatening as the average teddy bear.

    Some people on both sides need "the talk" to be scared. Others of us come by it quite by accident. Sad, but true.

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