Amazon's Cloud Now 1% of Internet Traffic 71
An anonymous reader writes "A Wired story claims Amazon's cloud now hosts enough companies and traffic to generate 1% of all Internet traffic (and visits from 1/3 of daily Internet users). An amazing number if true. And a little scary for one company to host this much cloud infrastructure."
Akamai was there years ago (Score:4, Interesting)
And a little scary for one company to host this much cloud infrastructure.
Right. Akamai delivers around 20% of internet's traffic, is basically cloud content provider and has been so since the 90's. There's still long way for Amazon to go.
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Re:Akamai was there years ago (Score:4, Informative)
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I have only ever heard it used in this form...
Akamai doesn't generate traffic (Score:5, Interesting)
Akamai is like a company that handles the pedestrian and motor traffic, they don't actually generate anything. Their business model is designed around traffic management and _content_delivery_.
Amazon, Google, et al are generating the traffic.
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The diff between AWS (amazon's web services) and Akamai is that AWS provides processing substrates integrated with CDN functionality.
Akamai mostly does CDN. This means that AWS has access both to the bits and the "metadata" (DBs, mappers, reducers, binaries) its clients manage and Akamai only accesses the generated bits.
AWS is a much more vertical integration than Akamai, comparable - with a bit of imagination - to Apple vs Microsoft.
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Akamai is a cloud content provider, much the same as my squid proxy server is a cloud content provider.
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LOL, is "multiple regional cache servers" now "the cloud"?
I'm certainly not disagreeing with you, I've just never seen it distilled quite down to its essence like that.
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LOL, is "multiple regional cache servers" now "the cloud"?
I'm certainly not disagreeing with you, I've just never seen it distilled quite down to its essence like that.
It is the cloud (which is an incredibly over-used term).
Just because it isn't providing actual off-load of compute power in terms of processes running "in the cloud" versus at an origin doesn't mean it isn't the cloud. Akamai provides storage and routing logic (through several means) outside of a single customer - it certainly is "the cloud".
LOL, Raise their taxes (Score:5, Funny)
After all, they ARE the 1%
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This already happens due to most people not disabling scripts on most sites. My wife has an amazon account and often gets offer emails on products availible related to things she has been looking at or searching for.
so wouldn't be anything new.
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Re:Get ready for it (Score:5, Funny)
Dear Amazon.com customer:
Fred, we noticed from your surfing history that you recently viewed
More likely:
"Dear Amazon.com customer:
Bob, we noticed from your surfing history that you recently viewed porn.
You may also be interested in: more porn.
Sincerely, Jeff B. and Amazon.com"
The advantage of that message is that you don't even really need to check the user's history.
1% is "a little scary"? (Score:5, Insightful)
What's scary is that the author thinks 1% is scary. Let's talk again if they hit 10%.
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any time someone dares to serve more of the internet than google its scary
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Well, Google most definitely is scary, so I would go with Yes!
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> serve more of the internet than google ......
implies google serves less than 50% of the internet
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So Jeff Bezos should be getting smeared as a pirate soon. And his local swat team should be visiting him, along with the prerequisite FBI, ICE and Homeland Security thugs.
So, ya, it could be a bit scary.
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Still less than any major porn site...
Any major porn site moves 1% of internet's traffic?
How many major porn sites are there? I hope it's less than 99, otherwise I've spent years in slashdot without figuring how to activate the porn opt-in.
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You'd seriously be surprised how much the porn industry has died down on the net, with the economy crunch.
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Don't forget that porn sites use CDNs and clouds--some of them may use the amazon cloud as well...
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Don't forget that porn sites use CDNs and clouds--some of them may use the amazon cloud as well...
Amazon Elastic Porn & Stalk?
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Not really since it is only 1%
Does the Kindle use the cloud? (Score:2)
When I use its "experimental" browser to access the web, is it using the Amazon cloud or going direct to the net? It is unclear.
(Note: I'm talking about the regular kindle, not the Kindle fire with its Silk browser.)
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the web lives on amazon's cloud. a lot of websites are stored on amazon's cloud to be closer to customers.
the idea that you visit a site by going to someone's server is quite quaint and outdated
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according to things I've read, it's "enhanced" by the "Amazon Cloud". I'm willing to bet it's proxied, just to make sure you're not using the AT&T 3G for anything too personal.
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>>>according to things I've read, it's "enhanced" by the "Amazon Cloud".
That's true for Amazon Silk on the Fire tablet. It operates similar to Opera Turbo where the browser fetches pages from the Opera server and then downloads a compressed images/text/HTML.
But my older Kindle doesn't come with Silk. Its browser is called "experimental" and operates at 3G speeds (about the same as my home DSL ~700 kbit/s).
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However all digital books and music, IIRC, that you purchase from amazon are on the "cloud"
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So far I've not bought anything for my kindle... I just copy-over plain text books. :-)
Amazon must be annoyed.
Heh heh.
not true (Score:2)
Bad Bots (Score:3)
Is it just my imagination, or is there a huge amount of traffic from AWS coming from bots that don't respect robots.txt?
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I was gonna say...
Is this Cloud to Cloud, or Cloud to ground traffic?
I for one., (Score:2)
Fixed that... (Score:5, Insightful)
"And a little scary for one company (other than Google or Apple) to host this much cloud infrastructure."
There, fixed that for you.
Can't be true (Score:2)
Netflix? (Score:3, Interesting)
But Netflix is said to use 32% of bandwidth (http://on.msnbc.com/HS3Or5), and Netflix is hosted by AWS, isn't it
Re:Netflix? (Score:4, Insightful)
I seriously doubt this: Netflix isn't available in most countries outside USA, an I'm pretty sure Asia adds up far more traffic than USA.
Re:Netflix? (Score:5, Informative)
netflix is hosted by level 3 inside the ISP's networks
they use amazon for the authentication part
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Really? Are you sure?
Netflix used to serve movies using IPv6 according to our college's traffic logs (if fact, they were about the only IPv6 traffic out there at the time). They one day it stopped. Around that time, news sites starting reporting that Netflix now streams from Amazon. Amazon doesn't support IPv6.
"Server" Costs (Score:4, Informative)
I spec'd out a cloud server a few months ago to replace my physical server and the yearly cost of the Amazon cloud server that matched my physical box was just about double (it cost more to get a 64bit system vs a 32bit system).
[John]
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They include some redundancy, the internet connection, power, and AC. A single server probably won't match their uptime either unless you have it at a co-lo facility.
LOTC (Score:1)
Accelerated Down Time (Score:2)
All centralization of the internet equals a decrease in quality and reliability.
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"you're claiming that it'd be better for businesses to run physical servers in their office than run virtual servers in a cloud of ~450k machines spread across god-knows-how-many dedicated datacenters?"
Yep. The numbers work out that way.
Keep in mind that no matter how many datacenters and how many machines, Amazon was DOWN for quite a long time in 2011. (And, although this is only an single anecdote: all the vaunted redundancy of AWS did not save the site of one of my customers when an Amazon server suffered a hardware failure a few months ago. Yes, there were local backups, but Amazon was completely useless and unhelpful in the situation and newer data was lost from the database.)
For that matter, M
Want scary numbers? (Score:2)
Instagram (Score:1)
I believe that Instagram is 100% hosted on AWS EC2 instances and S3. We'll see if they move to Facebook's data centers.
The $1B valuation of that company would not have been possible without using Amazon as their provider. Amazon is definitely doing something right.
At what % (Score:2)
When does the %s get high enough to no longer qualify as 'cloud' and instead multiple single points of failure services.
Does Amazon ban porn? (Score:2)
Or why is it such a small number?