Man Builds 737 Simulator In a Garage 102
linuxwrangler writes "It started with a dream of building a full-sized jet flight simulator. Now, 20 years, $150,000 and one divorce later, James Price can walk to his garage and fly the 737 simulator he built built from the nose of a surplus 737. From the article: 'James Price had one must-have when looking for a new home -- the garage had to be able to hold the nose of a Boeing 737 jetliner.
"Once I realized I could get it in here, I was OK with the house," Price said.
In his spacious three-car garage Price has a well-traveled jetliner cockpit tucked in next to the family car.
Aviation experts say Price, 52, is one of only a handful of people in the world who have built their own flight simulator cockpit in an actual jet nose."
Even more impressive... (Score:3, Funny)
...was that guy who built a 737 simulator inside an actual 737.
He was arrested by the TSA.
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Cue the investigations.... (Score:5, Funny)
There won't be any "investigations" (Score:2, Flamebait)
But congratulations on being the second (of the only two posts) to draw an erroneous "post-9/11" link to a great aviation geek achievement.
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Simulator achievement. It is in no way an aviation achievement.
And it's is an awesome simulator.
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Re:Cue the investigations.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Considering the guy is an air traffic controller, I'm pretty sure they trust him.
Considering that the TSA have reportedly confiscated scissors and bottles of water from airline pilots, I wouldn't be so sure about that.
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Or worse.
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/legacy_images/minorleagueball/images/admin/otto.jpg [sbnation.com]
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... as they make sure that this sort of thing is not being used to train future terrorirsts.
They should certainly avoid selling the parts to Muslims
somewhere... (Score:5, Funny)
some guy somewhere is saying "WOW... Honey, look at what this guy built in his garage for $150,000" and his wife/girlfriend/significant other is yelling "AND ONE DIVORCE!!!!"
Re:somewhere... (Score:5, Funny)
some guy somewhere is saying "WOW... Honey, look at what this guy built in his garage for $150,000" and his wife/girlfriend/significant other is yelling "AND ONE DIVORCE!!!!"
To which the guy responds, under his breath,
"... lucky bastard..."
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some guy somewhere is saying "WOW... Honey, look at what this guy built in his garage for $150,000" and his wife/girlfriend/significant other is yelling "AND ONE DIVORCE!!!!"
To which the guy responds, under his breath, "... lucky bastard..."
He must have had a good lawyer. Most divorce settlements leave the man barely able to afford this type of simulator [amazon.co.uk].
Re:somewhere... (Score:5, Informative)
The article, should you choose to read it, says: "A 2000 divorce led Price to let loose and pursue his dream.".
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At least we know in this case she didn't him for chasing tail...
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"A 2000 divorce led Price to let loose and pursue his dream."Sources say he's frequently been heard exclaiming "So you want me to get a nosejob hey? Hey? How's this for a nosejob!"
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Re:somewhere... (Score:4, Funny)
some guy somewhere is saying "WOW... Honey, look at what this guy built in his garage for $150,000" and his wife/girlfriend/significant other is yelling "AND ONE DIVORCE!!!!"
And one bloke with a 737 in is garage is saying "it was a bloody good trade".
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For $150,000, a really decent Stearman can be had.
I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Funny)
Aviation experts say Price, 52, is one of only a handful of people in the world who have built their own flight simulator cockpit in an actual jet nose.
Who would have guessed?
Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Insightful)
Where's the guy with the bus simulator? Or a full size train simulator?
I can't think of anything more boring than flying a 737. I am a flight sim geek as well, but a 737? Sheesh. Its the most boring and actually very simple to fly plane.
A fighter sim is at least fun, especially older prop planes. 737 flying is sitting there staring at a screen for hours on end (in real life or in a sim.)
+10 for geek props, -1000000 for fun factor. Boooooooooring!!
Takes all types I guess!
Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Funny)
Ahh, so YOU find it boring, therefore the guy....umm, what is your point exactly?
That the world revolves around you?
Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Funny)
+10 for geek props, -1000000 for fun factor. Boooooooooring!!
More like "Boooooeeeeeeiiinnnngggg."
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*groan*
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You really have that joke on lock, so I am all but forced to take heed of the apex (dare I say landmark) your triumph represents. Well, played, fokker.
Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Funny)
I went to the gym but all they had were bike simulators and walking simulators. Boooring.
Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Insightful)
I can't think of anything more boring than flying a 737. I am a flight sim geek as well, but a 737? Sheesh. Its the most boring and actually very simple to fly plane.
I wonder if the guy thinks the same of you. Just sitting down at a computer to play games might be utterly boring to him. His idea of fun might be to, oh I don't know, build a freakin' 737 in his garage!
Your attitude is like someone seeing Michelangelo's statue of David [wikipedia.org] and complaining what a waste of time it was because you prefer giant naked women instead.
Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Insightful)
Your attitude is like someone seeing Michelangelo's statue of David [wikipedia.org] and complaining what a waste of time it was because you prefer giant naked women instead.
Which, to be honest, would be a completely valid point...
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Your attitude is like someone seeing Michelangelo's statue of David [wikipedia.org] and complaining what a waste of time it was because you prefer giant naked women instead.
Which, to be honest, would be a completely valid point...
No, it wouldn't. Michelangelo's David would objectively still be a great work of art. Saying "I don't like X" is not the same thing as saying "Because I don't like X, X is rubbish".
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/sigh
Well, I chuckled, at least...
Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:4, Interesting)
Since I volunteer in a railway museum, I don't need no stinkin' full size train simulator!
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Where's the guy with the bus simulator? Or a full size train simulator?
I can't think of anything more boring than flying a 737. I am a flight sim geek as well, but a 737? Sheesh. Its the most boring and actually very simple to fly plane.
A fighter sim is at least fun, especially older prop planes. 737 flying is sitting there staring at a screen for hours on end (in real life or in a sim.)
+10 for geek props, -1000000 for fun factor. Boooooooooring!!
Takes all types I guess!
I'm going to guess that his simulator is a little more complex than any of the computer simulators you have. Besides, if he wanted to fly an older prop fighter, he could have purchased the real thing [globalplanesearch.com] for the cost of his simulator.
I didn't RTFA, but someone mentioned that he's an air traffic controller. Perhaps he thinks it will help him with his job. Or he would just like to fly one of the aircraft he directs all day long.
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Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Funny)
Are you saying that he picked the wrong nose?
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You made me choke on my soda. well done, you magnificent bastard!
Re:I'm glad they consulted the experts. (Score:5, Interesting)
Well how about an F-15C?
http://www.f15sim.com/ [f15sim.com]
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So far that project seems to be mostly a bunch of junk salvage with a few active panels, but if he ever gets it all working it will be the best goddamn amateur simulator ever made!
I tend to agree with some of the posters here... unless you are planning on becoming a commercial pilot, a 737 simulator sounds horribly boring. But I guess there is no accounting for taste, there are already a lot of people out there spending hours a day tending their fake farms on Facebook instead of going into their backyards
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Well, I would say that the 737 nose is probably very easy to acquire, compared to a train cockpit (very heavy) or fighter jet cockpit.
It might sound obvious... (Score:1)
... but, if he mods it so it has motion, then it's not going to fit in his garage any more. It will need to be housed somewhere else.
Will that make it lose it's "prestige" of being a homebrew simulator once it's out of there?
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As someone who works on a similar device; if he can afford to mod it with motion, then he probably wouldn't be hurting to find another house with a suitable outbuilding.
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As someone who works on a similar device; if he can afford to mod it with motion, then he probably wouldn't be hurting to find another house with a suitable outbuilding.
the joke is that he could have gotten pretty good motion for 150 000$ if he had ditched wanting to fit it in an actual 737 cockpit.
a cessna with motion would be a looooot cooler. or a faux mig-21, thinking about it. would be definitely more "man cave".
anyways(but considering the guy wants to fly a jetliner I suppose it's kinda cool, a lot of effort went to it anyways and rigging it, since he has a lot of the instruments there too as real dials..).
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I'm surprised that he even bothered with his garage, shopping for a house specifically with one that size. I presume he's without kids now, so getting a giant house with a 3-car garage seems quite overkill compared to a decent 1-person house with a backyard big enough to throw up a good shed large enough to house the simulator.
Here's a working link (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_20417444/flying-world-from-his-own-garage?source=most_viewed [contracostatimes.com]
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Microsoft Flight Simulator X is still more realistic and capable than X-Plane. besides it includes better scenery, more complete list of airports (with more details of each).
I use all major flight simulators (including open source Flightgear) and I still prefer FSX.
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No Kidding (Score:2)
>and one divorce later
Who could have seen this coming?
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I was just going to say, he traded his marriage for the opportunity to build his 737 simulator.
I don't think that would be my first choice of a trade, but then again I've never met his wife!
Re:No Kidding (Score:5, Insightful)
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Of course, she's got an income. Right?
The labor time invested in quilting and scrapbooking aside, it really isn't her accomplishment unless she had to work to acquire that stuff.*
* I do know a few people who have leveraged beanie babies and collectibles into viable businesses. Good for them.
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well, we don't know what happened. Maybe he pulled the money from their kids college? Or spent all his free time at work or in the garage. Or they just didn't get along.
IF my wife decided to build a simulator in the garage, I would be fine with that, if she drove us into poverty and refused to do anything else, I would have a problem with that.
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If your wife blew $150,000 on shoes you would have steam coming out of your ears unless your a multi millionaire?
The article says he is just an air traffic controller! Unless he has a big inherietance I side with the wife on this. It is a very irresponsible thing to do and if you do not have a half million saved by 60 you are in deep shit. SS wont be around until you are 70 due to the upcoming austerity measures that are going to take place in the next set of years. I am not being political here but stating
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Life lesson: Find a wife who either shares your passion or has one of her own.
To quote the Mercury News article:
It sounds to me as if Debbie Price is his current wife, and, from the description, might at least understand his passion (they both work in air traffic control and are both pilots).
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Lets hope she has money.
She can share his passion but unless he is rich I can fully see his first wife leaving him. $150,000 is no chump change and its a much better goal to invest that or pay off debt regardless if its a cool project. An airtraffic controller should not be blowing $150,000 on his project.
May God help him if he has kids too. With them its not just money but time being a dad is always more important than yourself.
Wow! (Score:5, Interesting)
Just WOW! This is really impressive.
(I can't believe that among ~15 posters so far nobody said the one thing this article truly deserves, so I have to be the first one)
Not the only one (Score:4, Interesting)
If you haven't read the article, they also point to a few more folks building realistic commercial aircraft simulators around the world...
For example,
this one http://web.me.com/mattford1/Site/Matts_Boeing_737_Flight_Sim.html [me.com]
or this one http://www.hyway.com.au/747/747.html [hyway.com.au]
Although it sounds like Mr. Price's is the first one with an actual nose from a real 737 (the some of the other ones merely use some fraction of the real cockpit equipment in a shell).
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Boy I wish i had all the time and money in the world to do projects like this. I think a ton of people are capable of "feats" like this, but actually have to work for a living and then go home to spend time with family.
If you find your family that much of a burden on your valuable spare time, you're better off leaving them and living alone.
I'm surprised ... (Score:2)
According to TFA, Price has been collecting these parts for quite some time. But that's no easy task either, as working instruments don't generally get tossed out.
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They may get tossed out. actually.
And most flight instrumentation only requires basic electronic skill to replace. If you have the book.
I used to repair aircraft instrumentation. Pretty boring and routine.
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[T]hey don't just toss these things in the boneyard with working instruments.
But sometimes pilots do... Just need to beat NTSB to the scene.
I'm doing this too... (Score:5, Interesting)
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Thanks! Garmin provided the G1000 system for the simulator, as well as engineers to help with system integration, and mentor the students. At least once every week, there are Garmin engineers in class to supplement the teacher.
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Nice. I used to live in OPKS, my sister went to BVHS. Didn't know about CAPS. Good stuff!
Not as cool as this guy (Score:5, Interesting)
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That's insane. I had never heard of passenger simulators.
Pretty cool, and a warning (Score:2)
As a warning, the article contains a link to his website under renovation. His new site has a link to his old one and when I went there I was getting a Java exploit alert from MSE. YMMV, but thought I'd mention it.
Getting to see it (Score:5, Funny)
Before you get into the garage, you have to go through his TSA simulator. It's a rubber glove on an articulated arm.
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... and controlled by an uneducated high-school dropout who can't get a job at McD.
Pretty cool, however... (Score:4, Interesting)
Arrest him at once.... (Score:2)
... this certainly is a tool to train terrorists.
Media presentation means a lot (Score:2)