ICANN Reveals New TLD Application List 116
Eighteen months after first announcing expansion of the TLD space, ICANN has published the list of new gTLDs that have been applied for. A cursory glance reveals that.app was pretty popular, with 13 applications. Now begins the seven month objection period (but you have to be a large organization to lodge any). angry tapir writes in with info on how duplicate applications will be resolved. From the article: "The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers has released statistics about the applications for new top-level domains — so-called 'dot word' domains along the lines of .web and .bank ... Two hundred and thirty of the domains proposed by applicants will become the subject of ICANN's dispute resolution process — which involves an attempt among applicants for the same domain to come to a joint arrangement, followed by an auction if that's unsuccessful. There were 751 conflicting applications for domains in total, which in many cases are likely to involve generic suffixes like .secure."
Useful change (Score:1)
I understand the DNS system and how the new TLDs work but how will a normal user react when the will be told to go to http://apple.app/ or http://android.app/.
Also how many client/server scripts will break when the new TLDs arrive?
Re:Useful change (Score:5, Insightful)
Considering that many users still put "www.apple.com" in the Google search box rather than the address bar, then choose Apple from the list of results.... I don't think it will be a problem. Besides, with people visiting sites with foreign TLDs, such as .ca, .au, .pl, .ru, .cn - I don't think they'll be too overwhelmed with choices other than .com, .net and .org.
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Considering that many users still put "www.apple.com" in the Google search box rather than the address bar, then choose Apple from the list of results....
A side note. I'm an IE9 user and I have Google as my default search provider. In IE9, the address bar is the search bar too and when I enter "www.apple.com" or any other address, I most often end up searching instead of going directly to that site (mainly because I'm not entering the http://./ [.] I'm not sure if that's a bad IE9 design or if it's Googles creative ways of displaying my results as I type (and sort-of forcing a search). I'm sure it helps their search results though and it's just one more reaso
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Most of the browsers allow searching in the address bar. I prefer Opera's approach (which may be used by others now) in which it assumes anything in a dns format is a URL. So if you put "apple.com" it will take you to apple. If you want to search something that happens to be in dns format, then you have to put g before it (or whatever other shortcut you may use for a search provider.... g will do a Google search. This way "g vb.net" will not try to take you to a website called vb.net but instead will search
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I've fat fingered my bank's or broker's URL a few times too often, and I don't like getting redirected to anything unexpected. Dropping it in the Google box yields results with the correct site at the top, whether I typed it correctly or not.
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I used the word foreign TLDs because most people are familiar with their own country's TLD... so I was singling out country-specific TLDs that exclude your own country. And what do we generally call countries other than our own? That's right, foreign. The examples I gave (Canada, Australia, Poland, Russia and China) will generally include at least four, if not five, foreign countries for almost everybody reading the post.
Re:Useful change (Score:5, Interesting)
Also how many client/server scripts will break when the new TLDs arrive?
Probably the unicode TLDs will be a larger challenge than .app
So, remind me again, (Score:4, Insightful)
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Companies. Now instead of www.companyname.com being the first site people try, they'll try a new standard like www.companyname or home.companyname. I wouldn't be too surprised if just .companyname came into common use.
Re:So, remind me again, (Score:5, Funny)
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yep and typing more characters, too
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We were already there. Doesn't "visit us on Facebook" sound a lot like "AOL keyword xyz?"
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I hope they still feel they're benefitting when nobody can remember what the hell they chose as their TLD.
Re:So, remind me again, (Score:5, Interesting)
If no one can remember what a companies TLD is, it will just drive more traffic to Google, as the masses will just search for the company name, then click the first link that pops up.
Maybe this is a conspiracy to increase ad revenue for search giants. . . . . .
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If no one can remember what a companies TLD is
...and now it will be even more complicated to teach end users what a phish email looks like.
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Holy sweet baby jesus, that never crossed my mind.
My employer is FFFF.UUUU.CCCC.KKKK.EEEE.DDDD.
Re:So, remind me again, (Score:4, Funny)
.bingo. .you .one .is .able .to .talk .in .top .domain, .ie .fun .gift .to .us .now .new .games .to .play .by .email .fishing .fans .eh?
.bet
.im .able .to .do .it. .fun .new .world, .net .is .now .bananarepublic.
.so .if .an .art .fan .gifts .me .digital .video .camera .and .sexy .pro .star .rental .to .suck .off .and .stroke .my .wang, .im .hosting .one .diy .bj .porn .movie .free .at .cheap .pub .site. .ooo
.ps .you .fail .and .gold .star .to .me .and .im .no .virgin .lol
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Re:So, remind me again, (Score:5, Funny)
Considering WWF rebranded to WWE about 7 years ago, I don't think that will be a problem. Although panda wrestling would be awesome.
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Taking a very classic example, does 'wwf' take you to wrestling or pandas?
Kids these days. As an original internet gangster OG back when dinosaurs roamed the earth in the 90s, the classic example to prove that a projector equipped internet browser had connectivity, perhaps after the presenter 404d due to a typo, was to encourage the presenter to "surf" (I hate that verb) to www.whitehouse.com to see Prez Clinton's website (the real one being whitehouse.gov). Worked almost every time I tried it, did not matter if they fell for it, everyone started laughing. whitehouse.com was a
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When every company and organisation and even most networks want a
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Who types in domain names any more?, I don't, since I never know if it was companyname.com or was it .net or a specific .com for my country?, did the site require www. or just companyname.com was ok?
new gTLD will make the situation worse, and you'll have to rely even more on search engines, bookmarks and address bar hints to remember what was the site and under what TLD is found.
If anything, I would just remove TLDs instead of adding more, it just creates redundant information in most cases. No one will giv
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Removing TLDs would create more problems - aside from the fact that they're all being used. If you only have three TLDs, then you'll start having to remember names like applenonottheiosguystherecordlabel.com or app-l3.com. That's going to become a lot harder to remember than is it www.apple.com or apple.com when most sites will allow you to put in either of them. There's a limited number of second level domains available for any TLD before you start having to use very long strings of gibberish, which defeat
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No one, because the new TLD names almost all suck and are for PR firms and megacorps.
I don't want to see .yoga I want a .yogapants TLD. Where's .chan? Where's .pr0n?
I am happy to see .WTF made it so far. I skimmed thru the list and thats the only new TLD that has any appeal for me, as either a buyer or a visitor.
I was kinda surprised to see .dodge as in the car marketing brand, but not the discontinued brand names like .oldsmobile or .saturn.
Interesting (Score:5, Interesting)
Three entities want .sucks, four want .soccer, six want .law, five want .group, but only two want .sex
Re:Interesting (Score:5, Funny)
... only two want .sex
I hope that they can come to some arrangement
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TLD Squatters? (Score:5, Interesting)
One name keeps appearing as the primary contact (but with different emails)
Daniel Schindler
TLD Squatters are born perhaps?
It is also interesting that the like of Apple, IBM, Oracle and Microsoft all applied for their TLD's but HP didn't.
Re:TLD Squatters? (Score:5, Funny)
He was prepared and thus registered for everything on Schindler's List...
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Re:TLD Squatters? (Score:5, Informative)
Nope - he is a squatter for a new squatting company called Donuts!
http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Daniel_Schindler
http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Donuts
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Nice. Investment capital into the TLD land grab. This can't go wrong.
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And by 'squatter' you mean 'facade':
From http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Donuts [icannwiki.com]:
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Re:TLD Squatters? (Score:5, Informative)
Or you go to the website of the email address: http://donuts.co/ [donuts.co]
From their Team page:
Dan Schindler
Co-Founder and Executive Vice President, Sales and Marketing
From their about us page:
Donuts is a domain name registry bringing variety and choice to Internet naming.
The company was founded by long-standing industry executives with experience in registry and registrar operations and industry regulation, and who have successfully launched top-level domains (TLDs), built industry-leading companies, and brought value and choice to the domain name marketplace.
Donuts has applied for more than 300 TLDs and intends to secure and operate each. The company is well-resourced by substantial funding from multi-billion dollar private equity and venture capital funds.
Looking at their investors, they have a lot of VC money. Looks like a startup trying to cash in on this. Though, it could be looked at in another light, that they are trying to provide a multitude of TLDs for people to use.
A news story about the company: http://www.geekwire.com/2012/seattle-area-startup-raised-100m-series-financing/ [geekwire.com]
They have $100 million in funding.
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Or you go to the website of the email address: http://donuts.co/ [donuts.co]
.co? So he's a Colombian. Investing his coke money, no doubt.
It's been really annoying how people like this pretend some cctld , like .co, means something completely different than the country it actually refers to. .tv is Tuvalu, not "television", .md is Moldova, not "doctor", etc.
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Briefly scanning, it sure looked like a some gTLD squatting. Especially with company names like "Dot App LLC" and "Dot Auto LLC". Maybe this is a blessing in disguise, it could really light a fire in the tech sector... (snerk).
It's times like these that make me long for the days of Cobol and punch cards....
Re:TLD Squatters? (Score:4, Interesting)
You're kidding, right? Seriously though, .hp is two letters, something not allowed in this gTLD land rush. I believe .hp is reserved for ccTLD. Maybe Hewlett Packistania perhaps?
This land rush seems stupid. As others have pointed out, will people really be searching these new gTLDs as opposed to just using a normal web search? Although, I would welcome region specific TLDs, like .seattle, .nyc, etc., because I don't see those as much different than being country based, provided we restricted registrations to those with addresses in the locale.
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Wouldn't it make more sense to use .seattle.wa.us and .newyorkcity.ny.us with an equivalent alias of .nyc.ny.us? It would save me a lot of time when I'm looking for the right Springfield if I knew that .springfield.ma.us was nearly guaranteed to point to the Springfield that houses the Basketball Hall of Fame.
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HP knows that they can just create/buy country and name it "Hewlett Packard", thus getting .hp nearly automatically.
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Yes this is defiantly squatting, 307 TLD's listed each by him with different LLC for each one, and all are generic names.
If this opening up of the TLD's was in any legit way trying to expand the net they would reject all his applications because none of them are legit for anything other than squatting. But it isn't legit but rather a cash out by ICANN and they are more than happy to take this guys/VC's money and let the net have to live with squatters.
And to dispute any of them it costs between 2-20,000$.
Charleston Road Registry Inc. (Score:1)
It looks like they got a little gTLD-happy. I counted 102 applications alone, including GOOGLE, CLOUD, HOME, MOVIE, MUSIC, DEV, PROD, and YOUTUBE.
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They are all for Google. Look at the email addresses.
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Google also wants .plus, seems like a great thing for Google Plus where they could give every user .plus as a link directly to their Google Plus profile page. Easy to remember, easy to direct people to and small to link to in e.g. a Twitter message.
Daniel Schindler (Score:1)
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I count about 305 on Schindler's list, including a couple of eastern characters. All of them are donuts.co email addresses, so it looks like one of the previous posters may be on to something with him simply representing a large number of companies.
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Donuts.co is basically trying to the same thing as eu.com and us.com --> i.e. run by CentralNIC - which Daniel Schindler appears to be involved with too!
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Daniel Schindler, who has applied for hundreds of new top-level domains, each one under a separate LLC with a name composed of two words from a small set of words, including baxter, big, castle, falls, frostbite, galley, half, hill, holly, june, knob, lone, maple, north, oaks, sand, spring, steel, tigers, town, and victor.
Hokey Smoke!
Seems Dangerous... (Score:1)
Crap, I forgot to go register .legit-bank, .is-not-a-scammer, and .very-trustworthy...
Seriously though, why is this going through? Take Bank of America for example: I'll never sign in to anything that isn't https://www.bankofamerica.com . Now people will see (presumably, once scammers get geared up) .b0fa, .bofa, .bank0famerica, etc...
Good luck explaining this to people who are not computer savvy.
kanji tattoos and domain names (Score:4, Interesting)
Kids who are just a little younger than me have the consensus view that rebellion means anyone under the age of 20 when the fast and the furious came out should get kanji tattoos. This leads to hilarious blogs like the hanzismatter where gullible buffoons get random asian style tats that mean nothing at all, or have something truly embarrassing like it means small wiener when translated. Of course the concept is pretty moronic in general, makes me want to move to China and start inking gullible buffoons with english words like "goatse.cx" and telling the morons it means "strong" in english.
Anyway the point of this ramble is I can see some of the UTF-8 kanji TLDs being popular for vanity email addresses among the kanji tats crowd. After all, its kanji, it must be cool, right? Also I think it would be hilarious to go thru life in the US when people ask me for my email address I can tell them vlm at-sign "draw them a kanji". This might cut down on spam too. In fact I think it would be doubly awesome if I could intentionally get a kanji TLD that means "goatse", or maybe some random swear word.
(Another fun thing will be watching the love I'm about to receive in about 10 seconds from /.ers with kanji tats)
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lol, well then I will send you some love -- Unlike the random clueless who just choose a kanji cause it looks cool, I was learning Japanese and had a reputable English-Japanese dictionary with kanji included. I found the word I wanted and cross-referenced the kanji with other reputable websites.
So, now I have "immortal" inscribed in ink. Correctly, I might add. It is still ... interesting? when people ask "Oh, what does it mean?" I usually say "Does it have to mean something?" which gets me dirty looks and
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This might cut down on spam too.
I find the opposite more likely. Anyone in the Western world who you tell your e-mail address to will likely have difficulty reproducing it, whereas any spambot that manages to get hold of it will have no issues whatsoever copying it into their database of addresses to contact.
Highly disappointed.. (Score:1)
In the lack of a .fart extension :(
No .linux? (Score:2, Insightful)
Someone get on that quick!
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Shhh. Either Microsoft will buy it or hundreds of different linux distros will have a cage match over how it works...
Insanity. (Score:1)
This is not going to start, nor end well. ICANN is an entity that can hardly manage it's former charter, much less this new and terrible word it's hell bent to inflict upon us.
As a Capitalist, I find some measure of merit in this initiative. As a human being, I'm horrified and not just a little nauseated at the overt greed and thinly veiled extortion of existing brand holders.
Does Anyone Actually Care (Score:2, Interesting)
Does anyone actually care about these new TLDs? Sure, I get that a few registrars anticipate making some money form them by selling ancillary registrations to people defending their names and trademarks for $5 a piece. But, do we really care about it? Do we really want MyName.Whatever?
To me, like .xxx a .secure or .mobile or even .google is meaningless. They are just longer to type and easier to forget than .com .net.org. Look at the ones we already have like .biz and .info that no one cares about and no on
.TX (Score:1)
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Can't have two characters. It would have to be .texas
I'm sad there's no .WINNING though.
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Never infer that Texas isn't a country. They get mad about that.
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It's possibly the best reason ever to secede.
For what it's worth, it appears that there was a minimum length of 3 characters for this fools-gold rush.
ICANN is made up by corrupt thieves (Score:1)
The rotten and corrupt Domain Name System [kimmoa.se].
The most contested TLDs were: (Score:3, Informative)
APP 13 applications
HOME 11
INC 11
ART 10
SHOP 9
LLC 9
BOOK 9
BLOG 9
MUSIC 8
MOVIE 8
DESIGN 8
Some big TLD squatter activity from:
donuts.co - 307 TLDs
famousfourmedia.com - 60 TLDs
Google wants 93 TLDs (including some legit trademarks)
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Natural to you, maybe.
In British English, store is rarely used (unless it literally stores something and occasionally we call something a superstore but that's more likely to be a supermarket). .shop would probably work a lot better for us. But then, we have .uk and could shove it under that so there's really no need for these things at all.
I'm no more likely to go to a .store than a .com. In fact, just the opposite (why support someone's profit margins when they piss away money on .store and then charge
List of gTLD that Google wants (Score:1)
tas-contact@google.com: BOOK CLOUD GLE GMAIL GOOG GOOGLE GUGE NEXUS
tas-contact2@google.com: BUY DCLK FLY FREE KID MAIL SEARCH TEAM
tas-contact3@google.com: APP CPA DDS DEV DRIVE FILM GAME MOTO SHOP
tas-contact4@google.com: CHANNEL CORP DAY EAT HOME MED MOM SOY SPOT
tas-contact5@google.com: DOG DOT EARTH ESQ HERE MOVIE PLUS VIP
tas-contact6@google.com: AND GOO INC LLP MOV PHD TUBE WOW
tas-contact7@google.com: BABY LLC MAP PROF SHOW TALK TOUR YOUTUBE
tas-contact8@google.com: DIY HANGOUT LOVE MBA PET TECH ZIP
tas-
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tas-contact@google.com: BOOK CLOUD GLE GMAIL GOOG GOOGLE GUGE NEXUS
tas-contact2@google.com: BUY DCLK FLY FREE KID MAIL SEARCH TEAM
tas-contact3@google.com: APP CPA DDS DEV DRIVE FILM GAME MOTO SHOP
tas-contact4@google.com: CHANNEL CORP DAY EAT HOME MED MOM SOY SPOT
tas-contact5@google.com: DOG DOT EARTH ESQ HERE MOVIE PLUS VIP
tas-contact6@google.com: AND GOO INC LLP MOV PHD TUBE WOW
tas-contact7@google.com: BABY LLC MAP PROF SHOW TALK TOUR YOUTUBE
tas-contact8@google.com: DIY HANGOUT LOVE MBA PET TECH ZIP
tas-contact9@google.com: ADS BLOG CAL FUN LIVE MEME MUSIC PROD
tas-contact10@google.com: ANDROID BOO EST FOO LOL SITE SRL STORE WEB
tas-contact11@google.com: ARE DAD DOCS GMBH HOW NEW PAGE YOU
tas-contact12@google.com: CAR CHROME FAMILY FYI GBIZ ING PLAY RSVP
Any guesses why they use different contact addresses? Priority? Different teams?
Amazon seems to have an equally impressive list of domains they want ..
AMAZON ANTHEM APP AUDIBLE AUTHOR AWS BOOK BOT BOX BUY CALL CAREMORE CARTIER CHLOE CIRCLE CLOUD COUPON CRUISE DEAL DEV DRIVE FAST FERRERO FIRE FLICKR FREE GAME GOT GROUP HOT HSBC IMDB ITV IWC JEWELRY JLC JOT JOY KIDS KINDER KINDLE KPMG LIKE LOVE MAIL MAP MOBILE MOI MONTBLANC MOVIE MRPORTER MUSIC NETAPORTER NEWS NOKIA NOW PANERAI PAY PIAGET PIN PLAY PRIME READ ROCHER ROOM SAFE SAVE SCA SEARCH SECURE SHELL SHOP SHOW SILK SMILE SONG SPOT STO
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Those scummy bastards at ICANN must already be holding parties.
This is why they should be removed from any sort of power. They are corrupt now.
Every single entity involved in the DNS should disown them and elect a new group.
I love how that nonsense was spread recently by them saying how scary it would be to allow the UN to control the internet instead of them.
Yes, because this is TOTALLY a brilliant idea, confuse the TLD space even more with generic terms, brilliant!
See you all on Usenet. I hope the web d
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Probably because it's easier to manage? If they get a response to tas-contact@google.com, they know it only applies to the 8 associated with that address. Helps to pre-sort what domains are being talked about, after all. And if there's a discussion to be had between various parties, it's only 8 out of all gTLDs they could be talking about, rather than any one of them which could confuse them (especially since several will be dis
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The obvious answer is for Google to not treat gTLD websites different to any other web site.
"Amazon EU" applying for dozens of generic names (Score:2)
Search the list for "Amazon" and you'll find "Amazon EU S.Ã r.l" applying for many generic domains (as well as .amazon,.aws, and .imdb, which suggests it is the same business as Amazon.com), some related to their business and some not:
.app
.audible
.author
.book
.bot
.box
.buy
.call
.circle
.cloud
.coupon
.deal
.dev
.drive
.fast
.fire
.free
.game
.got
.group
.hot
... I stopped there.
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I counted 76
More cannon fodder (Score:2)
Did anyone else just add all these to their spam filters?
Tomorrow I'm going to add them all to my dns root with mail records just to make sure I never see anything from this list of marketing idiots again.
.web should be a generic tld (Score:2)
ICANN should probably just create this TLD and then use it the same way they use example.com.
So many shows and movies have used .web as fake URLs so that they don't have the same problem they did with phone numbers.
Futurama notoriously used .web and I, for one, give all power to the hypnotoad.
Ironically (Score:2)
What a joke (Score:3)
For all that's holy, support the alt-roots movement [opennicproject.org] before the Internet is completely consumed by commercial interests.
BT, DT (Score:2)
Let's just blacklist all these stupid new TLDs (Score:2)
It strikes me that I'm extremely unlikely to be interested in domains below many (or any) of the listed TLDs (having glanced down the list) so why not teach the silly sods a lesson by blackisting them in bind by default, and thus make ICANN get the blame they deserve for peddling this nonsense.
just to sell the email addresses (Score:1)
.secure (Score:1)
Looking at the groups behind the registrations (Score:1)