16GB Nexus 7 Sold Out On Google Play Store 262
hypnosec writes "Just days after it was officially made available on Google Play, Google's Nexus 7 16GB version has been sold out and is not available for order. Google's probable answer to Amazon's Kindle has been selling like hot cakes from day one, and was available with two different amounts on-board storage: 8GB and 16GB. Considering that people now-a-days want more space on their portable computing device, the 16GB version was selling more than its 8GB sibling. Another reason for the 16GB to outsell the 8GB variant is that the price difference between the two is just $50."
$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (Score:2, Interesting)
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For larger format tablets it's generally $100 for 16, same thing....
Anyway, are people buying the nexus 7 because they've been dreaming of a 7" tablet or because they've been dreaming of a sub-$300 tablet? Or did this catch on due to some other arcane explanation such as hype and everyone else buying one?
Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (Score:5, Funny)
No, it's because they can watch porn on it.
Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (Score:5, Insightful)
For me it was both.
Form factor of an eReader, power of an iPad, and half the price of an iPad.
I got a 16GB. I would have definitely bought a 32GB if it were available. I don't quite understand why they even produced an 8GB if it doesn't have an SD slot and doesn't have G4. If you drop a movie or two on it, you have no room left for your music, pictures, and other apps / data.
This thing would have been golden with an SD slot.
Compare to movie rentals (Score:2)
If you drop a movie or two on it
How many movies does one usually get from the Redbox at once? Load one movie on, watch it, and load another on once you're back at fixed line broadband.
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You don't have a computer with a disk drive?
Handbrake is free and makes this very easy.
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look man, fuck that. I used to roll with a 160gb ipod classic. I'd like a device that can really provide the same functionality. It's not like our summer cottages have redbox rentals near them. there's 3g though so spotify works.
the big space is good because then you don't have to decide in advance what you want to watch.
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Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't quite understand why they even produced an 8GB if it doesn't have an SD slot and doesn't have G4.
to promote tethering..
well, not really, it's to skimp on every possible buck and to promote googles cloud services.
and with no removable storage some circles within google can pretend it's secure. or will be. in future(tm). and by secure I mean "limit consumers access to media they just bought".
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I got the 8GB version as once you include UK VAT, it's a £40 total difference - or 25% more expensive. And if I need much more space, then an extra slow 8GB isn't really going to cut it anyway. So I've got a micro-usb to USB OTB cable coming for a couple of quid, and can use my existing USB 32GB flash drives with it (with the stick mount app) to playback any amount of media on it when I'm travelling, and it means I don't have to faff about plugging the tablet itself in in advance. Factor in sugar sync
Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (Score:5, Informative)
If you drop a movie or two on it, you have no room left for your music, pictures, and other apps / data.
PROTIP: don't copy entire DVDs/BluRays to your device, encode to MKV at 720p to reduce a movie down to about 1GB. Also has the added benefit of stripping out all the pointless unskippable rubbish before the movie starts.
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To each, his own (Score:2)
I'm at the other end of the spectrum from you.
I wouldn't pay for a 16GB one. I'm using my 8GB Nexus7 as primarily an eBook reader plus have a bunch of MP3s loaded onto it for background music while I'm reading. (well, and also for the general sweetness of other Google/Android apps.)
The way I see it, I'm only really going to be using the network capabilities of my Nexus7 in places where I have Wifi (home, office, possibly friend's places) so I don't see a real need for a large storage capacity. It's not like
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I don't mind pooling for things for both of us....living necessities, home...etc.
But, I insist that I get to put aside money in my own account just for ME and my toy purchases. She can have the same, but I like to save my money, and buy myself 1-2 very, very, very nice toys a year. She can do as she pleases with her money, etc.
Of course, I do make more money than she does....so, I get to have a bit more of my mo
Good Marketing by Google (Score:3)
I don't quite understand why they even produced an 8GB .
The reason is so they can have a "list price" of $199, the same as the Kindle Fire. People will often make a purchase decision by comparing prices on basic models, and then add upgrades without as much consideration. So Google wins the sale with the low list price, and then makes the profit on the additional memory.
Successor to Kindle Fire (Score:2)
Anyway, are people buying the nexus 7 because they've been dreaming of a 7" tablet or because they've been dreaming of a sub-$300 tablet?
If either of those, they would have bought the Kindle Fire.
Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (Score:5, Insightful)
Not if they wanted pure android.
Which is why I am getting one. I have a nook running CM7 and a nicer device in the form factor running real android is exactly what I have been waiting for.
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I love CM7 on my Nook Color but it's not the most stable Android. If I didn't already have the NC, I'd jump on this.
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Do yourself a favor and remove the messaging app, camera, voice search and other stuff the NC can't use.
It will make the device way more stable and fast. This frees up a significant amount of its ram.
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Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (Score:4, Interesting)
It will not, CM has a list of what is safe to remove.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones [cyanogenmod.com]
I just used titanium backup, but you could use any app that allows you to delete apks from system.
It will break compatibility only with apps that need cameras and microphones, which the NC lacks anyway.
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No problem. Once you do this it is like a new device. I would also suggest once completed you turn off compcache. The device will fly compared to how it is for you now.
Do yourself a favor and make backups as you go. That way if you break something you can flash the last good backup.
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Also make sure you flash the latest CM7.2, big improvements over CM7 in the functionality department.
If you are not using corporate email (exchange) I would remove that as well. Since we really only use our NC for tablet stuff I have removed that and google talk and a bunch more.
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That's why I got one as well. I also wanted a tablet that had a chance of being updated. It's the same reason I bought a Nexus S phone a couple of years ago. It's still being updated. My contract is up at the end of this year, so I will get whatever the new Google reference phone is.
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It's not just the Kindle Fire. There are other sub-$300 7" Android tablets. You simply didn't need to wait for Google to provide this sort of thing.
Re:Successor to Kindle Fire (Score:5, Insightful)
The real difference between the Nexus 7 and those other tablets is that the Nexus 7 is fast (quad-core Nvidia Tegra 3). Between that and the fact that, as a Google-branded device, it will actually get OS upgrades (unlike those other tablets), it's not only a better value now but it's also future-proof enough to justify paying for the extra 8GB.
Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (Score:5, Insightful)
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I was led to believe and can now confirm it has an extremely responsive OS and UI
Jelly Bean update gave a fresh new life to my aging Nexus S. It's a fantastic update. UI is very smooth and responsive.
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I have an LTE iPad but I am seriously considering getting a Nexus 7 as a supplementary device. I had a Nook Color with CM7 for a while and yes, it was small enough to actually fit in most of my pockets. I love my iPad, but I kind of miss that form factor.
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I'm going to buy the 16GB version.
As for why I haven't bought one yet, I'm just waiting until XBMC is available for it.
A tablet that allows me to add a folder via sshfs and run XBMC... Hell's bells, I just bought several nettop computers to do this around my house and for my dad, my brother, and a friend of mine.
Re:$50 for 8 gig is a terrible deal (Score:4, Insightful)
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The Nexus 7 is the first tablet that comes with a combination of features that I've wanted:
* Good screen
* 7" (notice how everyone claimed no one wanted this right up to the point where rumors started saying Apple was making one?)
* Current version of Android
* Fast enough processor/GPU (ask anyone who's compared a Kindle Fire or Nook Tablet to the Nexus 7 and you'll see what I mean)
Personally, I think Google could have made it more expensive and it still would have sold.
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Standard for flash embedded in tablets where the purchase is on a 'now or never' basis; but for flash-based storage devices(SD/uSD/thumbdrive) the number should be about $10. Maybe $15-$20 if you buy the fastest, name-branded-est, one you can find.
Unless the stuff in tablets is notably superior to the stuff going into SD cards, or the tablet in question is so tightly packed that the larger size requires going with higher density flash chips that are at the unpleasant edge of the price/capacity curve, it's p
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8gb? (Score:3)
Re:8gb? (Score:5, Interesting)
With flash memory so cheap, why would anyone release a tablet with less than 32GB? Our CAD stations have more RAM.
Because many people don't store information locally anymore. My tablet has 16GB, and I have a 16GB microSD. I used to keep a lot of local content, but these days I just have an sshfs mount to my home server for all my content. The only thing my local storage is for is installed applications, and a handful off items for when I'm offline. People are keeping information in 'the cloud' whether it's a personal implementation or a public service offering.
Hundreds of dollars a year for mobile broadband (Score:5, Insightful)
My tablet has 16GB, and I have a 16GB microSD.
The Nexus 7, on the other hand, has no microSD slot.
The only thing my local storage is for is installed applications, and a handful off items for when I'm offline.
Perhaps people buying the bigger capacities are offline more than you are. They don't want to spend hundreds of dollars a year on a mobile broadband plan for a tablet when they're already paying hundreds for Internet at home. And even if they do pay up, once someone streams a couple movies over cellular, that's all the Internet access the subscriber gets for the month.
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Perhaps people buying the bigger capacities are offline more than you are. They don't want to spend hundreds of dollars a year on a mobile broadband plan for a tablet when they're already paying hundreds for Internet at home. And even if they do pay up, once someone streams a couple movies over cellular, that's all the Internet access the subscriber gets for the month.
I use WiFi only; it's ubuiquitous where I am, and there's no additional charge for it. I'll be switching to Republic Wireless as soon as they start offering again for the same reason. Certainly if you are in a location where cellular is your only choice, the decision will be different.
$25 per day in some places (Score:3)
I use WiFi only; it's ubuiquitous where I am, and there's no additional charge for it. [...] Certainly if you are in a location where cellular is your only choice, the decision will be different.
To clarify my situation: The public transit system in Fort Wayne, Indiana, has no Wi-Fi; nor do a lot of stores. A convention center in Toledo, Ohio, has Wi-Fi but charges $25 per day to route packets out of the building.
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Why would you bother getting a separate data connection for your tablet when you can just tether your phone to it? Most Android phones can become wifi access points effortlessly, and presumably iPhones have something similar.
Oh, and if you buy an OTG cable (£1 delivered on eBay or £2 on Amazon) you can connect a USB flash drive.
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The Cloud is over-hyped nonsense that's not nearly reliable enough or ubiquitous enough at this time to make up for lack of local storage. You might not use squat. That's not the same thing as using the Cloud instead.
A memory slot can be safely ignored by the more pedestrian user while still allowing a power user to load up on storage.
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The Cloud is over-hyped nonsense that's not nearly reliable enough or ubiquitous enough at this time to make up for lack of local storage. You might not use squat. That's not the same thing as using the Cloud instead.
A memory slot can be safely ignored by the more pedestrian user while still allowing a power user to load up on storage.
There isn't a flash memory slot on a tablet or smartphone that will give you access to the petabytes of content you can access remotely. As a power user, I choose not to limit myself to the relatively tiny amount of local content a device can store.
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With flash memory so cheap, why would anyone release a tablet with less than 32GB? Our CAD stations have more RAM.
Probably because everybody wants an impulse-purchase SKU for their 'ecosystem' adoption and marketing buzz purposes, and the price of just not populating the pads, or using a smaller rather than a larger eMMC or similar chip on an otherwise identical board are quite low.
I do find it a bit curious that Google didn't offer a 32GB model(since the pricing of internal flash seems marked up compared to the swappable stuff, you'd think that they'd be fine with the idea of selling one... Perhaps the OEM building th
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i have a 16GB iphone with 4GB free space most time. some of us are not digital hoarders. i don't need 10 movies on my phone at any one time. i don't need 6 months worth of music either
i also have a 64GB ipad 2 and most of the space is filled with crap i rarely use. only bought it because it was the only wifi version available on release day
i used to have a 32GB iphone and most of the media on it i rarely used. 16GB is more than enough.
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For you perhaps.
I like to put my music collection on things. It's currently around the 50GB mark. This is why I like things with micro SD slots because a 64GB card is only ~70 bucks these days. 50 bucks for 8 is ludicrous.
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> i have a 16GB iphone with 4GB free space most time. some of us are not digital hoarders
That's just so funny because the iPod 2 had 20G of storage. That's a decent enough amount of storage for a respectable music collection.
It's funny because now the cult likes to shout down more "modern" devices with less storage than a 10 year old Apple product.
You will heckle the idea of having 10 movies on your phone and then turn around and elevate the idea of doing the same thing but depending on the network to do
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Now a tablet on the other hand, 64gig+ is what I want. I got the 64gig iPad and it's about full. It's a mix of apps, music and movies. My Transformer Prime has 96gigs (64gig microSD external card) and 128gigs if I have the keyboard dock connected. Over all it's about 40% full but I have only had it a few months. Having the extr
The Cloud offsets much of the local storage need. (Score:4, Insightful)
I think the challenge for this device was to bring the price down to $200. Which means reduced storage. It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local. This tablet can compete with the Kindle Fire as a result, and it will greatly increase the footprint of Android in the tablet space. When the leading product is literally three times the price or the the aging model is double the price for the same storage, it begins to look pretty good. If you need to have your entire catalog of files locally, then this may not be the device you want/need.
Re:The Cloud offsets much of the local storage nee (Score:4, Insightful)
It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local.
Not while you're out of range of a Wi-Fi AP that you're permitted to use. That happens more often for some people than for others. In fact, for some people, the only place they're sure to have Internet access on a tablet is at home.
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Then get the 16 GB version and cache the files you think you are going to need locally, or spend a few dollars and get a hotspot. I enabled the hotspot feature on my phone and use it with this device on the train. It is cheaper than having an entirely separate bill from my carrier, and actually saves battery life on the phone (my VZW GNex is awful in the battery life category)
If you absolutely need all your music and movies, then buy a bigger device at a higher cost. If they made this a 250 and 300 dollar d
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So use a USB stick with it. Those are available up to at least 256GB.
Re:The Cloud offsets - NOT !!! (Score:2)
USB sticks are usually VERY slow writing and not even up to par for reading; at least those which could be described as anywhere near cheap. You're looking typically at single digit MBps write (often low to middling single digits)and maybe 10-20 MBps read. Something decent like a Super Talent ST4 (which is physically gigantic) costs over $100 for 25 lousy GB, and is only reasonably fast on USB3. On USB2 it won't even read more than 25-30 MBps.
If they had even half a brain they would have put one or two Micr
Re:The Cloud offsets - NOT !!! (Score:4, Insightful)
They have a brain and knew that excluding MicroSD is smart.
It is slow and users will complain about their device being slow when they access it.
USB sticks are also slow, but it is very clear they are not part of the device to be left connected at all times.
You only need to hook up the usb stick to copy media back and forth nothing else.
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Not if your apps do a good job of syncing. When driving along mobile reception is too spotty for streaming audio to my friend's phone, but Spotify has already cached locally what he wants most of the time. Similarly Google Currents will cache articles offline, Pocket will cache web pages and so forth.
Plus these days there are loads of free wifi spots, the real challenge now is coming up with a way to bypass the stupid landing pages so that apps which just try to sync don't fail until you open a browser and
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I think the challenge for this device was to bring the price down to $200. Which means reduced storage. It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local. This tablet can compete with the Kindle Fire as a result, and it will greatly increase the footprint of Android in the tablet space. When the leading product is literally three times the price or the the aging model is double the price for the same storage, it begins to look pretty good. If you need to have your entire catalog of files locally, then this may not be the device you want/need.
As cheap as they could of added an SD slot, i'm not understanding why they wouldn't.
Unless of course, they think this will keep peeps from rooting the machine...
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Why would they think that?
Fastboot is supported on this device, so no need to root it. Just drop a su apk in system and away you go.
Google dislikes SD cards because they are slow, then people move their apps and data on to them and complain the tablet is slow.
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Also, the average consumer isn't going to understand that they have to compensate their storage by something they need to buy in a store. If the lack of SD card is an issue, then don't buy what many consider a surprisingly affordable device. I am certain they will start appearing in the not too distant future.
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"The cost to Google for the premium model’s additional 8 GB of memory is a mere $7.50, which means Google makes an additional profit of $42.50 every time it sells one of the 16 GB devices, IHS said."
So, if you can sync without google play, and are happy with 8 Go of media and programs between connection to your home, it makes no sense to buy the 16 Go version.
And if you want a lot of memory, it makes no sense to buy the
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RMAs screwed (Score:5, Interesting)
I was on the pre-order list and my 16GB would not charge. They still haven't sent a replacement. I guess I am screwed.
I guess the upside is that they may fix the screen issue... but since Asus has managed to show a lack of competence with some of these issues I am not holding my breath.
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I was able to prove it wasn't a charger or cable problem (they charge my phone just fine). It's a USB socket or internal USB problem.
So they need to send a new tablet, not a replacement part. I charger problem I probably would of been too lazy to report.
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I had an Asus laptop, an old pentium M w3v, which lasted me around 8 years. The only reason I don't use it any more is because the power jack keeps getting loose. I had it re-soldered but it soon stopped working again. I still can't complain though, since I got plenty of use out of that thing.
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Yes - that's why I said "right now".
My last laptop was also an Asus. Core 2 Duo era. Lasted three and a half years (I'm a bit rough on laptops, they don't tend to last longer than that in my care). Quite satisfied with it, although it was rather obsolete by the time it kicked the bucket. The one time I had to use the warranty (failed hard drive), they replaced it quickly and painlessly. That's why I chose to buy another Asus - because my last experience with them had been good.
They changed, near as I can te
"Google's probable answer to Amazon's Kindle" (Score:2)
Great trolling, man.
Does it have a video out option? (Score:2)
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Reports are 'no' on HDMI, VGA, or MHL. Since people already have them supporting USB slave devices in the wild, I assume that somebody will get a displaylink USB-video dongle hanging off one sooner or later.
Wifi is on the low end of possible for video purposes(for some reason, Android is far more dysfunctional than iOS or Intel's PC-based video-over-wifi-to-compatible-box; but that's a software thing, not some fundamental limit of the given wifi chipset) and Bluetooth would be painfully useless(you could ru
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It has neither and Bluetooth does not have the bandwidth/throughput for video.
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Great Device (Score:4, Insightful)
For anyone on the fence about buying one, do not hesitate, it's a fantastic device!
X sold out in Y days (Score:5, Insightful)
When a new consumer product/book/whatever hits the market, it's common to limit quantities of the first shipment so you can tell the world you "sold out" a few days later. The reason you do this is threefold:
1) Reminds consumers that product X is now available for sale
2) Get consumers to think that if they're interested, they need to buy now (e.g., rather than comparison shop)
3) Get consumers to think that the list price IS the price the product is selling for (e.g., don't look for discounts)
Or maybe (Score:3, Insightful)
Google intentionally manufactured (not really Google, but still...) few units just so they can say "hey, our Nexus 7 is really hot shit and sold out!!"
Of course... (Score:2)
If they had a Micro-SD card slot, I'd be buying one, without one, I don't really see the point of buying a tablet in 2012 with such a pathetic amount of storage space. Really, why $50 for 16 GB? I can go out and buy a 32 Micro-SD card for $30 or less. I can buy a 64 GB SD card for under $50.
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I keep seeing this time after time, but this complaint over the size of memory and lack of MicroSD ignores context.
I purchased a Nexus 7 as cheap 2nd tablet and one I could use for day-to-day work. I don't care about this issue.
Buy the hardware appropriate to the task. People making this broad complaint are wanting one size fits all, and that just doesn't happen.
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> People making this broad complaint are wanting one size fits all, and that just doesn't happen.
Sure it does. The counter-examples here are legion starting with the Galaxy Tab. Your "we must cripple it to make it useful" argument simply doesn't hold water here.
It's amazing how many people are pushing the "no one will ever need more than 640K" mentality here.
We're talking about a trivial change, transparent to those that are not interested but very useful to those that might care.
In the UK, Tesco got the price diff down to 10 GBP (Score:2)
In the UK, Google are selling the 8GB model for 169 GBP (inc. postage and tax), whereas Tesco in the UK did the 16GB model briefly (like for half a day until they realised that the money off voucher code was wrongly applied!) for 179 GBP inc tax. You had to use a 20 GBP discount voucher that was posted on the Net fairly rapidly and also collect it from your local store (Tesco is massive w.r.t. the number of UK stores, so that's no big deal). It's why I have a Nexus 7 16GB on my desk for only 10 GBP (about $
"answer to Amazon's Kindle" (Score:2)
How is a 7" tablet an answer to an eReader? Is it also an answer to desktop PCs?
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Because they mean the kindle fire.
Also a 7" tablet makes a great ereader. I use a Nook Color running CM7 for it all the time.
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to Kindle Fire.
(for those living under a rock, kindle fire is a tablet about the same size).
Apple is losing the game - thank god (Score:3, Interesting)
In related news:
Samsung Galaxy S III: 10 Million Sold
http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/240004166
Why I abandoned the iPhone
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/why-i-abandoned-the-iphone-20120718-228xy.html
tired of this (Score:4, Interesting)
What Google should do is not play the Apple game. Offer a 32 gig device and ... there is no second step. Advertise that even if you don't use the storage, it's being made available because MEMORY IS CHEAP, the additional cost of memory is buried down in the noise, and Google doesn't feel the need to play that game.
I don't expect them to do that, but it would be interesting to see what happened if they did.
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I ordered the 8GB model, expecting to have to wait the 1 to 2 weeks quoted for it to ship. My order shipped the next day. It's sitting in a closet, still in the shipping box, because it's for my son's 10th birthday, which is a month away.
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The important part is, of course, I already received mine.
The clue to your answer is in that statement.
Re:Now we get to see (Score:5, Informative)
Tablets are different. Your average American isn't comparing the Google price to a substadized price, instead they are seeing you can buy a $200 tablet from Google, a $200 tablet from Amazon, a $400 high end Android tablet or a $500 low-end tablet from Apple.
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Same here.
A) My phone has 32G, and I'm pairing with it anyway for 3G.
B) I can put a 32G SD card in a keychain reader, with a tiny adaptor.
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It does have USB OTG [wikipedia.org] however so is upgradeable, albeit less conveniently.
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> Honestly, who keeps their entire music collection locally?
Perhaps someone who got used to the idea with the Apple products being sold in 2002.
Wireless networks are slow, unreliable, and insecure. They can also flake out entirely. If you wander off the beaten path, then you're just out of luck.
It's 2012. Why not have it local? Storage is small and cheap.
Local storage doesn't suffer from wandering into the local canyon.
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Or PCmag is trying to knock the product so that people will buy a surface when they come out.
PCmag are the biggest MS shills ever.
The geeks at Android Authroity and XDA Forums have a DIY fix, but we'd advise ordinary consumers to just return their tablets.
You are calling tightening a screw a DIY fix? Are normal consumers to dumb for that?
The rest of these are one off problems. You build a device and sell it for $200 or $500 some units will be defective. They are just capitalizing on the popularity of the p
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Yes, PC Mag articles seems to be written by Microsoft's PR staff, but at least the one in question cites all sources for their complaints.
It's not like they write "Our review unit sucks; it has this isue, this issue and that other issue." Quite the contrary actually. Their 3 units are flawless.
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Actually I found no link for the dead pixel issue. The text is blue, but the link does not work.
I did not test the other links yet.
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