GNOME 3.8 To Scrap Fallback Mode 378
An anonymous reader writes "Via LXer, an article at Phoronix tells of GNOME's plans to eliminate 'fallback mode' (GNOME classic) in the 3.8 release."
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An Ada exception is when a routine gets in trouble and says 'Beam me up, Scotty'.
Re:idiots (Score:4, Informative)
And Fedora is their biggest supporter. For christsakes I just found with Fedora 17 they don't even include the Unix man pages in the default installation. Sigh.
Re:And that will also mark (Score:5, Informative)
You might be interested in this GNOME 2 fork [mate-desktop.org]
Re:idiots (Score:5, Informative)
Er, except that Debian is moving to Gnome 3 with Wheezy.
Tried a test installation prior to planning a site upgrade. WTF? DO NOT LIKE.
Looked around the Debian forums. Replies to "Can we have Gnome 2 back?" are met with "Why don't you help make Gnome 3 better instead?"
DO NOT WANT.
Tried Mate but it isn't ready for prime time yet, too many holes. Ended up with LXDE instead, adequate.
Re:And that will also mark (Score:4, Informative)
Gnome 1.x was rather low functionality compared to KDE. And if you wanted functionality KDE was then and is today the more obvious choice. It makes sense for the desktop environments to fork and Gnome to go in a different way with different objectives. KDE was going to be a traditional Unix GUI but better, while Gnome 2 was going to become more like GDI / Aqua. Gnome 3 is and was moving in the direction of supporting new hardware, the same way Windows 8 is.
Re:Gnome: I never got the hype or the recent rage (Score:5, Informative)
Not much else to do but agree. However, you should really give KDE4 another shot. Ever since KDE4.5 or so, it has been a fully-usable (albeit heavy) desktop environment. It's achieved the level of maturity and configurability I've always associated with the KDE3 line, and has added several features that are genuinely useful (such as window grouping, tiling support, a full semantic desktop, and several powerful UI scripting techniques), as well as the traditional KDE integration technologies. After some early 4.x struggles, I'm once again in love with the full KDE user experience.
I've done my tour of GNOME2, XFCE, KDE3, Enlightenment, xmonad, GNOME3, Unity, and KDE4, and I would, for primary desktop purposes, choose KDE4 without hesitation at the moment. Definitely worth giving it another shot if you haven't already.
Re:And that will also mark (Score:4, Informative)
Car analogy time. I have a neighbor who drives a BMW. I drive a Honda Accord. We both like our cars for good reasons. He likes the things he can do with this car. I have no desire to do those things, and I appreciate the simple, well thought-out control layout of the Honda. They're both great cars for different reasons, and they both objectively fit our subjective needs better than the other would.
One thing that Linux has made apparent over the last decade is there doesn't have to be One True Desktop that everyone has to use. I've tried KDE and found that the bells and whistles are intriguing but not something that really makes much of a difference to me. I think part of this is that I no longer live in a totally desktop-centric world, spending considerable time on tablets and smartphones so I appreciate the marginal features of KDE less and the simplicity of XFCE more. Others may have different needs.
That's not to say I don't find occasions where I'd rather be using KDE or Gnome, but by in large I'm happy with my day to day use of XFCE as I am driving my boring but functional Accord. The analogy isn't perfect since the Accord is almost without exception well thought out and XFCE has a few rough spots -- someone else mentioned Thunar and I totally agree it should be better. But you have to judge a desktop environment by its overall effect, and I appreciate XFCE's simplicity, responsiveness, and predictability.
Disclaimer: some of the opinions are based on using Ubuntu, and my opinions no doubt have been shaped by the distro's choices of KDE releases -- to say nothing of Gnome! This may well be another virtue of XFCE, that its focus on producing a simple and conventional desktop rather than a "cutting edge" desktop results in fewer distro-introduced hiccups in the user experience.
Re:And that will also mark (Score:4, Informative)