Teens Drug Parents To Get Web Access 505
linuxwrangler writes "Two teens are behind bars after hatching a plan that involved drugging milkshakes they gave to the parents of one of the kids. The parents were suspicious after waking groggy the next day, and used a home drug-test on one of the remaining drinks. The teens came up with the plan in order to avoid their 10pm Internet curfew."
My milkshake (Score:3, Funny)
brings all the web to the night, damn right.
Wow (Score:5, Interesting)
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Kids that like DDO games AND give you free drugs?!? I'm checking the hospital. They obviously switched their kid with mine.
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I'm guessing video games will get blamed for this.
Of course. That and milk.
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Korova Milkybars... (Score:5, Informative)
I'm guessing video games will get blamed for this.
Of course. That and milk.
You mean milk-plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what they were drinking? This would dull them down and get you ready for a bit of the old Facebook.
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Yes. Dr. Mario is the root of all evil in this world.
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Re:Wow (Score:5, Interesting)
No, blame Hollywood. This sounds like the plot of some kiddie adventure movie where the kids have to sneak out of the house/dorm to save the world. Put the clueless/unsympathetic adults to bed with drugs or the Harry Potter equivalent of such. That, or she's a big Bart Simpson fan.
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They are behind bars as the result of an illegal drug search by civilians, followed by collusion with some cops. No doubt in the end justice will be served, and the family will move to Amish country and renounce most technology invented after 1850.
Re:Wow (Score:4, Insightful)
Now I'm COMPLETELY aware the kid could have some mental issue and that alone made her do what she did, this would NOT be the parents fault and fall outside my post, I've said it so let it go.
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Teenagers also don't have fully developed brains and have a higher Risk Taking tolerance.
Combined with peer pressure makes a dangerous combination.
I am sure any of us who is older than 21 can remember back doing stupid stuff as a teen with a group of other teens that you would never do now.
The kids probably figured that it was a harmless prank on their parents, under evaluating the risk of giving their parents prescription drugs, and like all teens thinking their parents wouldn't notice the feeling of being
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The article says prescription sleep medicine, so it was probably Ambien, Lunesta or something similar. They don't give you a hangover, but some people do feel groggy for quite a while the next day. The kids most likely used it because one of them takes it anyway and would know that the drug isn't particularly harmful or dangerous.
This should be interesting... (Score:5, Funny)
Any bets they will get web access in the juvenile detention centre?
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They can't even keep heroin out of prisons, how hard can it be to sneak a mobile phone in there?
Re:This should be interesting... (Score:5, Insightful)
There are 2 perhaps 3 reasons to Jail people.
Reason 1. They are dangerous to themselves and others. These people need to be jailed to keep the rest of society safe, offering some life comforts often will help keep keep them safer. For example Cable TV in Jail is a godsend. Because before hand criminals would just exercise all day making themselves stronger and stronger so they can hurt more people. Cable TV has made them a bunch of couch potatoes, making them less physically strong to hurt people.
Reason 2. Punishment. The best part about giving extras to prisoners is if they misbehave they have something to take away. If they are good something to reward them. Otherwise the prisoners will have nothing to loose and will just behave badly.
Reason 3. Rehabilitation. There isn't strong evidence that Prisons are good at Rehab, However if they are, you cannot treat people like animals and expect them leave a changed person.
I wonder what feels worse (Score:5, Interesting)
the groggy feeling of being drugged the night before, or that knowing your daughter doesn't have a problem doing stuff like this to you.
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Re:I wonder what feels worse (Score:4, Insightful)
That they had a home drug test that was able to test whatever drugs they were given is already pretty telling. Seems like there were other problems...
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It's not interesting, it's not funny, it's really not much at all :(
Groggy vs. betrayed. Yeah, tough pick. Like, DUH.
anything with computers (Score:4, Interesting)
I know this is an old peeve, but still: this story is about kids drugging parents to get $THING. Is it on /. only because $THING == Internet?
Re:anything with computers (Score:4, Funny)
I dunno, you have to admit there's an "ingenuity with chemistry at home" angle that might qualify this for Slashdot anyway.
(Obligatory for mods with no sense of humor: Not that this sort of thing should be celebrated. Drugging people against their will is bad. Don't do it unless your curfew is really unreasonable, like eight o'clock.)
Damn Kids. (Score:2, Funny)
Shouldn't have been running bit-torrent while daddy was playing CoD. Who doesn't wanna have someone thrown in jail for lagging their connection?
2am StarCraft (Score:3, Funny)
A few years ago, some people I know figured out that their teen-aged son was setting an alarm clock for 2:00 in the morning, and getting up and playing StarCraft on the Internet for a few hours and then going back to bed.
They weren't sure what was up, for a while, but they did notice he seemed like he wasn't well rested and his school teachers were noticing as well. He wasn't an A+ student to start with and this really wasn't helping his grades.
Hmm, maybe Blizzard should have made an ad featuring him. "StarCraft: it's better than sleep!"
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I was the same, except that back then it was playing with Turbo Pascal 3 on a CP/M machine :)
Re:2am StarCraft (Score:4, Funny)
A friend of mine had an alarm clock for when he should go to bed. When forgetting to set that, he sat playing all night and got interrupted by the normal alarm clock instead, telling him it was time to go to school.
And yes, this was Starcraft, too.
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In the late 80s, after I got banned from using the modem playing MUDs (by running up a rather large phone bill - at that time in this country *ALL* phone calls were charged per minute - well, actually per 5 minutes because the equipment was still electromechanical Strowger switches and could only charge by the 'unit', and one unit lasted 5 minutes for an off-peak local call) I used to get up a 5.30 am twice a week to play for half an hour. I figured one hour off-peak local call per week would go un-noticed
Turnabout is fair (Score:3, Funny)
Trusting parents (Score:5, Insightful)
Does it not surprise anyone else that one of their first thoughts was to drug test the milkshake?
I can not possibly imagine waking up groggy and at any point thinking 'Was I drugged?!?!?!'
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Maybe, maybe not. We're making a bunch of assumptions.
Here's a thought. There's a bunch of kids who already have a curfew. Why do they have this curfew? The parent's first reaction was to call the cops. Who does this to kids? A surprised parents or the parents who have finally thought that this was the last straw? Could it be because the kids are psychotic to begin with?
It's not much of a stretch to imagine that these kids are a nightmere, and if so doing something kind like making their parents a milkshake
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Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:5, Insightful)
Control freak parents or not the kids were under their roof so their word was law.
It's been that way ever since the days of cave men.
If the kids don't like those rules they should get jobs and earn some of their own freedom.
Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:5, Insightful)
Control freak parents or not the kids were under their roof so their word was law.
Well, there are definitely limits there. But imposing a 22:00 Internet curfew is well within the bounds.
Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:5, Insightful)
says an anonymous 12 year old ;)
Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course there are times to be firm and times to be unyielding, namely when a child's safety is at stake. But silly things like an "internet curfew" will simply lead to the kid resenting their parents.
I think back to when I was in college, those with very strict and controlling parents usually ended up being the kids who drank heavily and skipped class and ended up having strained relations with their family. On the other hand, those with parents who were more rational and let their kids realize that staying up until 4 AM on the phone on weeknights lead to a miserable school day the next day rather than imposing a "phone curfew" ended up being more responsible.
Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:4, Insightful)
um, no.
it's 10, go to bed.
go. to. bed.
no, you can't surf the internet. no, you can't stay up texting.
go. to. bed.
reasonable.
(ironic captcha: syringes)
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It's a bedtime. Who didn't have that when they where a child?
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As a child, sure. Not as a teen though. Curfew but not a bedtime.
My parents were FAR from controlling, yet the whole way through highschool my sister and I were told many times how late we could stay up.
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Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem is though, controlling a child in silly ways like an "internet curfew" when they are teenagers isn't productive and leads to deeper problems.
It isn't out of the line, if the kid tends to stay up all ours of the night playing online. Or their school work suffers because they're sleepy in the morning.
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What ends up happening in so many households is that when kids don't have natural consequences for their actions they start viewing the parent as the problem. The action is viewed as consequence-free when the parent is removed. This
Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:4, Insightful)
Exactly. And THAT should be the punishment. If someone can stay up until 5 AM playing WoW and still end up doing well in school, what's the problem? If they're tired in the morning and end up having a horrible day because of it, chances are they're going to go to bed earlier so they don't get tired.
Been watching 60's sitcoms where kids learn from their mistakes have you? "Awww geee... I'm really cranky today, Ma and Pa were right when they said that would happen. i'd better go to bed early tonight like the good little child I am."
Left to their own devices, teenagers will often only make decisions that are in their best interests in the very short term. "I was really cranky all today because I stayed up late last night and it's 10pm now so I should go to bed but i've just got my second wind and feel great now so I won't".
That's what parents are for. I've had a bunch of people tell me their fantastical ideas about parenting... not saying "no" to their child, letting them do whatever they want and learning from their mistakes, etc, but for the most part it seems to be an excuse to never actually do any real parenting.
Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:4, Interesting)
If someone can stay up until 5 AM playing WoW and still end up doing well in school, what's the problem?
The problem is threefold: (1) It is not healthy to stay up so long playing WoW; it is not a normal activity, and the only benefit is entertainment with significant negatives -- it is a nasty habit to get into, that can have serious consequences over time, due to sleep deprivation, and potential psychological issues due to emerging addictive/obsessive game playing behavior. As a parent, I would want the best for my kid; therefore, behaviors that are likely to result in unhealthy habits are intolerable. It would be just as unacceptable as it would be for them to stay out that late drinking or partying.
Staying up late that night on rare occasion might be OK, but not to continue a game to the 9th hour or longer.
(2) The child would seem to be playing one game for an excessively long period - if staying up until 5 AM -- this has negative social ramifications. Diversity of activities are important. Watching TV, playing computer games, or surfing the web, for more than a few hours a day: unacceptable. For the teenage to learn to survive and mature, it is important, that they be exposed to a more diverse experience, which means productive or intellectual activities besides playing WoW are not optional.
(3) Playing WoW is not productive. If the child has that much free time available that they are willing to be awake so long, then the greatest percentage of it must be used in a productive pursuit -- either pursuing educational activities, such as reading books, and specifically nonfiction, OR pursuing a productive activity that improves skills/abilities, or earns money.
The chance that they are BOTH productive and play WoW that long are basically negligible, so it is a safe thing to say, if they play WoW that long, it is reasonable to disallow them use of the computer.
(4) Parent provides the internet connection. This is a shared resource, and they need to learn to share, which means not utilizing it 24x7. It is reasonable for the parent to say "You must always stop using it at 10 and go to bed"
[* Time after 10pm is Parents' porn-watching leisure time]
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I frequently pull all nighters to play video games. There is nothing wrong with that.
This is just entertainment. I don't see how it is worse than spending the night reading books.
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Exactly. And THAT should be the punishment. If someone can stay up until 5 AM playing WoW and still end up doing well in school, what's the problem? If they're tired in the morning and end up having a horrible day because of it, chances are they're going to go to bed earlier so they don't get tired.
I'll make a wild guess that you don't have many teenagers at home, except maybe yourself. Rational thinking isn't of much use with teenagers, almost by definition.
Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:5, Insightful)
If someone can stay up until 5 AM playing WoW and still end up doing well in school, what's the problem?
self-delusion.
You can do this once or twice, especially if you are young. If you think you can do it regularily, then you are deluding yourself. Sleep-deprivation is a well-researched environmental condition and its detrimental physical and mental effects are undisputed.
However, humans are excellent at convincing themselves of any bullshit they want to believe in. Smoking isn't bad for your health, having fun is a sin, drinking every night is just a social activity, your problems are not your fault, whatever.
Someone with an addiction will rationalize it away and explain all resulting problems with other causes. He's not doing bad in school because of lack of sleep, but because the teachers are bad and the other kids are mean to him. He's not lost his marriage because of his drinking problem, but because his wife was unfaithful. He doesn't enjoy torturing people, it's just that sinners need to be punished. Whatever.
You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.
Sleep deprivation and its effects are well-documented facts, no matter how much you wish that you can party all night, or play WoW or do whatever and shake it off. You can't. We know this, and wishful thinking doesn't change it.
Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (Score:5, Insightful)
The "miserable school day" is no consequence to most teenagers. They generally don't care. They will just sleep through class anyway or skip it all together. Many teenagers see no further than the next date or party and generally don't care whether or not they pass.
I agree that there are some parents who are control freaks. They dictate everything in their children's lives and the children rebel. There are also parents who set no boundaries for their children and the children act up just to be noticed. Both extremes have the same consequences; children that act out. There is a balance between those extremes where a child has both freedoms and constraints. Most teenagers do not yet have the mental capacity to understand the consequences of failing school. That is what parents are for. I think requiring a juvenile to not contact friends after bedtime so they get a good night sleep and have the capacity to learn in school is reasonable.
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Correlation. Causation. There's a slashot chant involving them somewhere...
Possibly the shithead kids are the cause and the strict and controlling parents the effect as they try and help their idiot offspring make a good choice once in a blue moon. Hey they made it to college so maybe it worked?
Mig
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And, seriously, they just put their kid behind bars. I bet they think that'll teach 'em.
I bet it would. Kids do something excessive, they deserve an excessive lesson in return. It's one thing to lie, whine, or manipulate. It's another entirely to poison/drug - especially for so stupid a reason.
Re:Freedom (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not right for a parent to adjudicate who is allowed to use the Internet that *THEY* pay for?
Really, if the kid wants their own internet, they should get themselves emancipated and move out.
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Drugging people is serious. Please don't become a parent...
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slipping drugs of any form into your parents body is far from a dumb stunt.
A dumb stunt would be someting like giving your parent a gag glass with a bottom that slips off or something. NOT something body-altering.
Re:Freedom (Score:4, Insightful)
If my kid drugged me? You bet your ass they would be. It's not just a dumb stunt. They could have done some serious damage.
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Sorry, but if you don't like it, move out of their basement.
Re:wow... horrible parents (Score:5, Insightful)
They fell asleep and were groggy the next day from 1/4 of the milkshake. Suppose they'd drunk the whole thing. They might be dead by now. Sorry, but I can't side with the kids on this. While I doubt the juvenile justice system is going to do them much good, what they did is definitely outside the bounds of acceptable behavior and should be considered criminal.
If I were the parents, I'd wait until they were convicted, then discuss sentencing options and see about making sure the harm is minimized. They deserve a really good scare and to see just how coldly the system can treat them for their incredibly outrageous and entitled behavior.
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There are plenty of Over the Counter drugs you could take that would knock you out fairly quickly with 1/4 the dose and have no noticeably different effect with 4 times the dose.
Benadryl comes to mind as a drug thats safe to use to knock many things out without harm even with wildly different dosages. Pretty much any antihistamine for that matter.
Re:wow... horrible parents (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually I would have my lawyer discuss with the DA a deal that involves involuntary commitment with reasonable terms to a mental health facility in lieu of conviction and formal sentencing. This way my child has no choice but to seek professional help and the parents of my child's friend will have no choice but to do the same.
If my child acted alone, I would most likely not press charges and just seek professional help. However if I was in the same situation as these parents, I probably would turn my child over to the authorities. Not because I think I need the state to get involved with my parenting, but because chances are pretty damn good that the friend put my child (in the story the friend provided the sleeping pills) up to this and I need the state to force the friend's parent to seek help. Besides the DA would probably take the plea deal in exchange for testimony against the child that provided the prescription drugs.
Regardless of the uncomfortable situation the parents found themselves in, ignoring the problem and hoping the behavior improves doesn't seem a viable option.
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They fell asleep and were groggy the next day from 1/4 of the milkshake. Suppose they'd drunk the whole thing. They might be dead by now.
I would not have hesitated to kill my parents in such a way if I had thought about it as child. My parents are lucky to be alive today. I am a bad person who was treated very badly.
I would not kill them now as I do not have to suffer under them any more... but they lay on their deathbeds from old age now and I do not move a finger to help them. You reap what you sow. It does not make me smile though. I wait for my own death so this chapter in history can be wiped forever from the books. My own children have
Re:If they meant to scare them, they took it too f (Score:5, Insightful)
"I am not a doctor"
It shows.
The line between a dose that will reliably put a random person out against their will and what can shut down breathing or perhaps cause vomit aspiration is famously thin when you don't know about drug interactions, medical conditions, if they drank a couple beers on the way home, etc. etc.
If they'd drank the whole thing, maybe they'd have been alright, but then again maybe not.
Re:If they meant to scare them, they took it too f (Score:5, Interesting)
"I am not a doctor"
It shows.
The line between a dose that will reliably put a random person out against their will and what can shut down breathing or perhaps cause vomit aspiration is famously thin when you don't know about drug interactions, medical conditions, if they drank a couple beers on the way home, etc. etc.
Well, it does depend on the drug. Ketamine [wikipedia.org] for instance will knock people out (welcome to the K-hole!) but the risk of overdosing is minimal since it actually increases blood pressure and doesn't depress breathing. For that reason it's a preferred anesthetic for less than ideal situations (battlefield, triage center, disaster areas) because it is damn hard to accidentally kill someone with it, but damn easy to knock them out reliably.
Re:If they meant to scare them, they took it too f (Score:4, Insightful)
I am not a doctor, but all medications come in varying dosages. We don't exactly know the whole story here, so stop making assumptions.
My bet here is that something was seriously wrong in this household, and the teen was acting out in the only way she knew how.
It seems funny how you can assume that " the teen was acting out in the only way she knew how" based on the girl drugging the parents but not that the dosage in the shake might have been lethal based on the effect of 1/4 of the dose. If you are against assumptions the you are against all assumptions. Sorry but you can not pick and choose.
The parents were being vindictive, that's the only explanation.
Yet another assumption. Another explanation might be they were great parents at the end of their rope with a daughter who has no boundaries. We do not know the whole story..
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I am not a doctor, but all medications come in varying dosages. We don't exactly know the whole story here, so stop making assumptions.
This assumption goes both ways. If you intentionally drug someone, you have to assume it could be dangerous. And guess what, it usually is - there are very few prescription drugs where an overdose doesn't have some serious side effects. And sleep medications are usually not intended to knock you on your ass, but to aid sleep. If they woke up with a nasty hangover it's OBVIOUSLY more than the standard dose already.
And you clearly don't have kids, let alone teens with serious behavioral problems. What are they supposed to do, laugh it off? Or punish her by cutting off her Internet access? Yeah, that would be a great idea. Better make her taste all your food first.
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If I were the parents, I wouldn't have had my own children arrested, or put them in a position to be arrested. I would have handled the situation privately and discretely, disciplining as necessary.
May not have a choice. If they were feeling bad enough to get checked out by a medical professional (and I must say, I'd probably get checked out if I found out I'd been drugged!), and that professional reported the situation to the police (which is mandatory in many jurisdictions for cases of this nature) then the police may have pressed charges regardless of the parent's wishes. In many cases of domestic violence (which this is included in) the victim does not have any say in whether charges are laid. Thi
Re:wow... horrible parents (Score:5, Insightful)
It was only sleeping medicine, jesus... they acted like their kid and her friend slipped them cyanide.
What if one of them decided to drive to the corner store?
What if one of them decided to have a glass of wine before bed... maybe a cold beer?
What if they actually finished the shakes?
What if the parents are taking conflicting prescriptions?
What if they were taking the same prescription meds they were slipped?
What if one of them was allergic to the drug?
I could continue, but I think you can understand what the problem is.
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Yeah, there's blame on both sides of the aisle. Yes, it was a pretty stupid thing to do to your parents, yes it was dangerous, reckless even. But to take it to court is basically to ensure that your kids have no future. Either because they turn to a life of crime after being released from jail (the US "justice" system isn't designed to provide for a bright future after release) or they become basically unemployable and live a life of poverty due
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To say that the kids will have no future is an exaggeration, but the parents here are basically naive and it's
a common kind of naivete. I remember a story where the parent thought that their kid making out while under 16
with their friend was something that the child services would best take care of. Result: statutory rape charges
and a sexual offender record for the rest of kids' lives.
I think everyone should go to state or even federal prison for a week. It should be akin to compulsory civics lesson.
Things
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I guess you haven't read this document [ca.gov]. Here is a quote from it:
Instead of being sentenced to state prison, many defendants will be serving their "prison" term in county jail.
The juveniles are also not in County Jail but Placer County Juvenile Hall [ca.gov] along with other juveniles. That looks like a very scary place. We have no information whether or not they have been released to or bailed out by their parents. Lets wait till things pan out before condemning the parents over what might or might not happen.
Maybe this will be a wake up call for a couple pf entitled teens and may even turn their lives around.
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Ever heard of a sealed or expunged juvenile file? As ling as it is handled in juvenile court it may disappear. There may be hoops to jump through but if this is the only mark on their record when they tirn 18 it will probably go away.
What the fuck kind of parents are you people?
Parents who hold teenagers responsible for activities that would kill. There is a line between mischief and harm and the teenagers went very far across it. Do you really believe that anyone over 13 doesn't know that overdoses can kill?
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... and how, pray tell, does that ruin anyone's lives? I'm almost 30 now and I've not even been arrested, let alone been in a court.
As well it shouldn't be ignored. The fuckers poisoned the parents. It's one thing to hide it from people who don't really need to know, it's another to make it go away entirely.
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Your employer, credit bureau, and many other organizations can't see it or even know it exists. There has to be a reason for someone to look for and ask a judge for a sealed record to be unsealed. Using a juvenile record in court means that the person has been accused of another crime. It does not happen when applying for a job and therefore does not effect one's career so the GP's statement about the teenager being permanently condemned is false. So the only thing a juvenile record "condemns" someone to is
Re:Still horrible parenting (Score:5, Informative)
Fuck yea. This is not bad behavior - this is sociopathic behavior. Anyway they will be punished as a juvenile so the consequences aren't as permanent as you are trying to make it out to be. Certainly not as permanent as allowing this sociopathic behavior to get worse.
What if the parents did nothing and a couple of years later their or their neighbor's kid does something that kills or seriously injures someone? If you found out that the parents allowed this action to go unchecked/unreported then you would be screaming about how irresponsible the parents were and how they should be held accountable for their child's actions.
The parents did good. They were being parents. Being a parent is not always trying to be your child's best friend - it's doing what is best for your child regardless how unpopular it makes you feel.
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If the kids were capable of drugging their parents (and the parents had a home drug test kit handy), I'm guessing this is not the first time they've butted heads. Maybe they decided it was time for a little tough love.
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If they had been slipped cyanide, they wouldn't be acting like anything. They'd be dead.
Drugging somebody against their will is a rather serious crime, and there is no doubt this was premeditated, making it almost on par with attempted murder. In many jurisdictions, the victim of a crime of this severity might be allowed to request that charges be dropped, but it is still up to prosecuting attorney to actually do so. If the prosecuting attorney thinks that the crime is too severe to allow the perpetr
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Unless these kids know about safe dosages (how much did they put in if the parents only had to drink one quarter?!?), interactions with other drugs or side effects that might interfere with medical conditions, etc, there's the possibility it could have been as lethal as cyanide. Fucking around with someone's body chemistry is never trivial.
Parents needed to use available tools. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Except most parents have no idea how to work the wireless router settings and can't exactly ask the kids to help them set it up :)
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It was only sleeping medicine, jesus... they acted like their kid and her friend slipped them cyanide. Why the hell would they have their child arrested? That is not exactly awesome for a kid's career and life... not exactly what I would do if she was my child.
I doubt their parents wanted to, but it's for their own good. If they were willing to drug their parents to go on the Internet, they'd be willing to murder and rob for extra spending money somewhere down the road. It's this kind of "oh, it's nothing big" lenient parenting that led to recent generations' general stupidity and lack of self-control.
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Drugging a person is a serious violation of their body. The fact that the drug wasn't lethal makes it a less serious crime, but it's still a serious crime.
Re:wow... horrible parents (Score:5, Insightful)
Here here!
YOU. DON'T. DRUG. PEOPLE.
These tards talking like it was a prank either don't have kids, or shouldn't.
Responsible parents make sure that their kids learn basic decency, like never ever drugging people. This is not a "good scotsman" fallacy, it is blunt reality. Letting this slip would be a major failure at parenting.
Re:Home drug test kit? (Score:5, Informative)
Ah, had to RTFA and watch the damn video... but apparently it was a drug test kit from the police station.
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There's home drug tests that test for an asslode of stuff. When I was in high school, the folks had one in their bathroom that tested urine for:
Amphetamines
Benzos
Cocaine
PCP
Ketamine
Opiates
MDMA
MDA
2C-B
Alcohol
THC
Amphetamines, Benzos and Opiates are all widely prescribed in the US, and are all fairly easy to get out of unattended medicine cabinets, if one knows whose parents suffer from what.
Re:Home drug test kit? (Score:4, Insightful)
Something does seem truly odd about the parents seeking prosecution of their own teenage child.
A girl that drugs her parents, probably wasn't an angel before. Sounds like a very thick and very heavy last straw.
There is a stage, when kids are completely out of control, that many parents consider getting the law involved is the best thing not just for them, but for the child too.
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The whole seems to be cutting off you nose to spite your face, "The daughter and her friend, were arrested and booked". Who is going to pay for the fine, these a pretty serious charges and would normally result in a extended stay in a correctional facility. Often doing more harm than good for the child's future. Something does seem truly odd about the parents seeking prosecution of their own teenage child.
You are evidently not a parent who has had an out of control teenager. Sometimes, you have to call the cops for your own protection/sanity as well as to give the kid a wake up call.
Certain behaviour means that the child has crossed the line from "annoying spoilt teenager" to "dangerous psychopath". And I'd say that drugging your parents just to get round a curfew was one of them.
Re:Story sounds made up. (Score:4)
"drug testing kit"
Yeah no. I don't think the average dipshit would have any idea how to get ahold of that. And any they WOULD get ahold of. Are not going to 'detect' any sleeping medication the average teen could even get ahold of.
Home drug tests are MADE to test for things the average teen could get ahold of. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+to+buy+home+drug+test [lmgtfy.com]
Let alone who the hell keeps a milkshake around overnight.
Someone who was drugged after taking a couple sips? Being knocked out gets in the way of stuff like throwing away milkshakes. Pity the kids didn't have the foresight to throw it away themselves, but then again, what can you except from kids who drug their parents to check facebook after curfew?
This story sounds 100% made up. The media will eat it up tho. But not too much. It's too fake.
Try harder.
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You're kidding, right? I can walk to my local Walgreens (a drugstore) and get kits to test for Marijuana, Cocaine and at least one other "common" drug, I forget which. I was floored to see that, right there, at the pharmacy counter. In fact, there's a few different tests now. Back when I was a kid, you have to have bloodwork done. Now it's a take-home kit, OTC and readily available.
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Excellent, a reward foe endangering their parent's lives because they do not agree with a rule. Let's teach them that no matter how trivial your needs are you are allowed to do anything to get it; even endanger people's lives. As long as it is resourceful it is OK. That's really what we want to teach our kids.
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I'm a philosopher, actually. If that should answer your questions about my moral compass. And speaking of, it is rather difficult to know what true north is when each person's compass points in a different direction.
My comment was tongue in cheek. But as with all humor it has its own bit of truth.
It is resourceful and clever, at least for their age; this you cannot deny. Now, should these children be jailed? Most certainly not. Because it is not the crime that is of importance; rather it is the motive
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Apparently, civilization has been receding for the last 30 years.
That is very possible. Not much has been happening in art, literature, or philosophy over that time.
It could be that we have become a culture of entertainment, not caring about much but having fun and feeling good.