AMD Reveals Radeon Sky Series For Cloud Gaming, Previews Radeon HD 7990 53
MojoKid writes "AMD made a number of interesting announcements today at the Game Developers Conference, currently taking place in San Francisco. AMD revealed their 'Radeon Sky' series of graphics products targeted at cloud gaming and virtualized computing applications. The company also showed off the dual-GPU powered AMD Radeon HD 7990, and extended the 'Never Settle: Reloaded' gaming bundle program to include BioShock Infinite. AMD revealed three Radeon Sky Series cards, two based on the Tahiti GPU and another based on Pitcairn. The top of the line Radeon Sky 900 is powered by two Tahiti GPUs linked to 6GB of memory (3GB per GPU). The Sky 700 is powered by a single Tahiti GPU and the Sky 500 is based on Pitcairn. All of the cards are passively cooled and are designed for cloud gaming / computing servers. The upcoming high-end, consumer targeted Radeon HD 7990 was also previewed, but few details were given. Devon Nekechuk, Product Manager of AMD Graphics, did say the triple-fan setup was whisper quiet. We think it's safe to assume the card features 6GB of memory and clocks are in-line with current Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition cards."
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I'm not sure, but it certainly sounds like "cloud gaming" is basically companies that provide the heavy hardware to stream games to PCs, for people who can't afford good gaming rigs. I wouldn't have guessed there's that big a market there yet to warrant special graphics cards though.
So, just my guess, take it for what it's worth.
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Well, they're special for two reasons. First, they have to support multiple users - it's inefficient if one person playing monopolizes the entire server. So the GPU has to be sharable, and in order to do so at decent framerates
high bandwidth use with cloud gameing and control (Score:2)
high bandwidth use with cloud gameing and control lag can make games suck.
Also no / limited user mods and maybe maps as well with the cloud.
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It's like the current version of SimCity.
It looks great from a distance, but once you get there, you realize that it's just vapor.
yeah whatever... (Score:5, Funny)
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NVIDIA..? "Sky" (Score:3)
Will NVIDIA release a repsonse product or do they already have a "cloud" offering that is not announced?
anyone...
Re:NVIDIA..? "Sky" (Score:5, Informative)
They already announced it.
It is called NVIDIA GRID.
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GRID: http://www.nvidia.com/object/cloud-gaming.html
The 7990 is bigger than some motherboards. (Score:4, Funny)
But will it blend? (Score:3)
Seems Blender's Cycles renderer is still having problems with AMD GPUs, and I see the finger pointed in AMD's direction. It would be nice to have some more hardware choices, but NVIDIA seems to be the only options at this point in time.
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Seems Blender's Cycles renderer is still having problems with AMD GPUs, and I see the finger pointed in AMD's direction.
In what specifically? I have to support nV and AMD graphics cards and get a lot of eng samples from both and when writing to the standard i don't find AMD cards to be any more buggy.
3 fans on the 7990 is stupid (Score:2)
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I know its just a reference design but putting three fans, even two fans, on a video card is stupid. In all likelyhood, that more than doubles the failure rate vs a single fan cooling setup...
That's unlikely. It would require that fan failures make up much more than 50% of total failures (I'm too lazy to do the math, I'm guessing at least 66%) and it assumes that there is no redundancy - that when you lose one fan, the other two can't speed up and cover the air-flow requirements at a cost of increased fan noise.
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Re:3 fans on the 7990 is stupid (Score:5, Interesting)
I know its just a reference design but putting three fans, even two fans, on a video card is stupid. In all likelyhood, that more than doubles the failure rate vs a single fan cooling setup...
All other things being equal, sure. However, which do you think would be more reliable, three fans at X rpm or one fan at 3X rpm? :)
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That would depend very much on X.
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However, which do you think would be more reliable, three fans at X rpm or one fan at 3X rpm?
One fan at 3X... for a sufficiently small X.
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However, which do you think would be more reliable, three fans at X rpm or one fan at 3X rpm?
One fan at 3X... for a sufficiently small X.
This is an enthusiasts card, pushing the boundaries of the current generation AMD GPUs to squeeze out more performance. I think it is safe to say that X will not be sufficiently small. Or more accurately; 3X will not be sufficiently small.
I would venture to guess that fan reliability scales super-linearly with fan speed and that we're talking about a speed for which the failure rate of one fan of speed X is smaller than the failure rate of any of 3 fans at 3X.
I just don't think the AMD engineers are total i
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This is an enthusiasts card, pushing the boundaries of the current generation AMD GPUs to squeeze out more performance. I think it is safe to say that X will not be sufficiently small. Or more accurately; 3X will not be sufficiently small.
I would venture to guess that fan reliability scales super-linearly with fan speed and that we're talking about a speed for which the failure rate of one fan of speed X is smaller than the failure rate of any of 3 fans at 3X.
I just don't think the AMD engineers are total idiots. Obviously I have no evidence, but I prefer not to assume they are.
I see that you took my innocent little joke, and went with it! Well, OK then, I'll go one further and declare that my statement is true for X=0.
Note that, logically, when I said "sufficiently small" I didn't talk about the needs of the graphic card's cooling. I was only looking at the fans' reliability.
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If one of three fans die, you have time to save, shut down, replace.
If one of one fans die, you hope the card will automagically shut itself down before permanent damage is done, that you have a replacement fan or card on hand, or that your mobo has a working vid out.
Rather reminds me of a question from Chris Crawford's Balance of Power, after you've inadvertently started World War III: "What will you do now, smart person?"
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It's not that I don't get what you're saying; different strokes, and all that. And I have no great liking for extra parts, either; just enough to get the job done as I prefer.
Yes, I run psensors; right now it's displaying CPU temp in the icon in Unity launcher - I could change that to GPU. What I have set are some values in BIOS for "if all hell breaks loose", and psensors is set to notify me if certain temps are reached by either CPU or GPU. But since the machine is always on that wouldn't matter if I'm
Speed Versus Reliability (Score:2)
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Are you in the right year? Let me bring you up to speed, AMD bought ATI, ATI is gone. As far as stability, I can't say I've had any problem with AMDs drivers for my 6670 on Windows or Linux. Where as I have had all sorts of stability problems with Nvidia on Linux, which is odd since most people say Nvidia is the best for Linux, even though all the forums are full of question on how to resolve issues with Nvidia. Seems backwards to me. o0
Where are the consumer passive cards? (Score:2)
Why is it that the fastest AMD based passive cards are based on the 7770 and yet for the "cloud" market they've got the equivalent of 7950 available? My recent build used a 650ti with super quiet fans because there is no current generation passively cooled card capable of 1080p gaming.
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Probably because the "cloud" parts are basically the same stuff, just clocked way down to run cooler? Just a guess.
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Sure, but I can move a lot of CFM silently with 140mm fans compared to the little 60-80mm fans on the video cards.
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FUD
The latest AMD CPUs are just as fast as icore5's for single tasking and can multitask for 50% of the cost. My phenomII is older, but has virtualization instructions and a hexcore architecture than can run VMWare Workstation smoothly where an icore5 would be all choppy and struggle.
The ATI cards are very competitive and slashdot should mention the ATI 7790 which is only $150 and very competitive value wise for those who do not want to blow $700 for a new powersupply + 2 card slot mega card.
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It all depends on the driver... (Score:2, Informative)
I have tried ATI cards several times over the years only to be repeatedly disappointed to the point of returning them. Returns are so common that Newegg, who does not
How is the pci-e bus setup on the dual-GPU cards? (Score:2)
How is the pci-e bus setup on the dual-GPU cards?.
each GPU get's 8 lanes? pci-e switch? dual core?
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Effectively its quite similar to a dual core CPU, except since the calculations are all so similar the workload is evenly split by the card & drivers.
This is big news: 7990 is only 2 slots (Score:2)
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Yeah, no. The 7990, while often announced, has yet to really be pushed to market. Newegg is only listing one board, as such, at the moment.
Perhaps you are thinking of the 7970?
Cloud (11 hits) (Score:2)
So the word "cloud" appears 11 times in the article, and in each case, is used in a context in which it comes off as a buzz-word or in an SEO-optimized fashion.
What I'd like to know is, how does it fit into the "cloud" paradigm?