Cruise Ship "Costa Concordia" Salvage Attempt To Go Ahead 151
dryriver writes "A daring attempt to pull the shipwrecked Costa Concordia upright will go ahead on Monday, Italian officials have confirmed. The Civil Protection agency said the sea and weather conditions were right for the salvage attempt. Engineers have never tried to move such a huge ship so close to land. Thirty-two people died when the cruise ship hit rocks off the Tuscan island of Giglio in January 2012. It has been lying on its side ever since. Five people have already been convicted of manslaughter over the disaster, and the ship's captain, Francesco Schettino, is currently on trial accused of manslaughter and abandoning ship. The salvage operation is due to begin at 06:00 (04:00 GMT) on Monday, and it is being described as one of the largest and most daunting ever attempted. The head of the operation, Nick Sloane, told AFP news agency that it was now or never for the Costa Concordia, because the hull was gradually weakening and might not survive another winter. Engineers will try to roll the ship up using cables and the weight of water contained in huge metal boxes welded to the ship's sides — a process called parbuckling. This procedure must be done very slowly to prevent further damage to the hull, which has spent more than 18 months partially submerged in 50ft of water and fully exposed to the elements. The salvage project has so far cost more than 600m euros ($800m; £500m) and could cost a lot more by the time the operation is complete."
Livestream (Score:1, Informative)
You can watch the salvage attempt live here: http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/videozone/livestream/MV_LIVESTREAM_CostaConcordiaRechtop
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And another... (Score:5, Informative)
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I think it's country-specific (Score:4, Informative)
In many cases broadcasting companies are only allowed to let domestic IPs access the stream even though practically every broadcasting company acquires access to the same stream. Here's one for Finland:
http://areena.yle.fi/tv/2032049
and for Sweden:
http://www.svt.se/nyheter/varlden/bargningen-av-costa-concordia-inleds-pa-morgonen
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Also this one:
http://globalnews.ca/news/841426/salvage-effort-will-try-to-hoist-costa-concordia/ [globalnews.ca]
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That one went down, this one from Reuters works:
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Raising_the_Costa_Concordia [reuters.com]
Half a billion? (Score:1, Funny)
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I think it has more to do with the fact that no salvage operation that even comes close in terms of size of the ship to be salvaged has ever been attempted before. Based on this article, the South African guy leading the operation is quite the character:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/13/world/costa-concordia-nick-sloane/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
To quote: "..file on his phone or computer marked "blow jobs" with photos of all the ships he has detonated..."
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The salvage is being done by Smit International from the Netherlands, a country widely regarded as efficient. Fpor more information Wikipedia article "Costa Concordia disaster", paragraph "Salvage" is a good start.
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500 engineers don't come cheap. Neither does all the fuel and equipment they'll need.
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Yes, i could've done it for 200 million. I would have used a million or 2 to buy pingpong balls and inject them to the ship to make it float. Then had couple of tug boats to pull it where ever.
Yes, but you can't patent that approach, so who's going to build a ping-pong-ball injection rig?
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The Mythbusters perhaps? Didn't they do that using just a water pump and some hoses?
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It's an Italian thing (Score:5, Funny)
http://imgur.com/wbgWn [imgur.com]
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It is a very innately human thing to be able to laugh at real tragedy. If we did not, the world would be an even more depressing place.
You do know the welded metal tanks... (Score:2)
Interesting. But... (Score:2, Interesting)
I'm interested in seeing this floating unfold.
But, what I'd really like to know/see here on Slashdot is how exactly they are streaming this event on the web. From the cameras in use to the uplinks, to the media server software, to the CDN, everything. Basically a how-to for efficiently and cost effectively broadcasting a HD stream from a remote location to millions of live viewers.
News for nerds. Stuff that matters.
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Basically a how-to for efficiently and cost effectively broadcasting a HD stream from a remote location to millions of live viewers.
Problem solved by the porn industry years ago.
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If we knew anything about the streaming system it'd be up here. As it stands the only extant "news for nerds" story surrounding the boat is the engineering challenge.
D'you rekon it would start? (Score:2)
Put some fuel back in do you think it would start?
Displacement vs Gross Tonnage (Score:2)
One of the things about this story that has been driving me crazy is the continual reporting that the ship "weighs" 114,000 tons. It's a big ship, but it isn't THAT big. The 114k number comes from the ship's gross tonnage, which, despite its name, refers to volume, not weight. The Costa Concordia's displacement, which is essentially its weight, is probably around 55,000 tons.
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An object that displaces 114k tons weights at least 114kT. If the object's volume is less than the volume of 114kT of sea water (in this case), it sinks. If its volume is more, then it displaces a volume of water that, when multiplied by its density equals 114kT. Some guy named Archimedes figured this out a while back.
Science would be a lot more fun if we still could run naked down the street following major discoveries.
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Yes. But the Costa Concordia does NOT displace 114,000 tons. It only displaces about 55,000 tons. The 114,000 number is its gross tonnage [wikipedia.org], not its displacement.
Righting successful (Score:2)
The ship is now upright. It's not floating; it's sitting on the underwater platform built for it, sunk several decks deep, and still full of water. Next step is to patch the hole in the hull, get pontoons on both sides, and start pumping. Big job, but now a routine one for a salvage company.
At least it's a job in a nice climate, near shore, in a friendly country. Most salvage jobs are in worse places.
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Either way, I personally think the only decent thing to do here is to leave her be, apart from draining off any remaining fuel oil, as a marine grave marker, and let the seas reclaim her. What's happening right now is a desecration.
You don't think she's fucking ugly like that? And an environmental disaster even after the fuel has been drained?
Besides, all the work required to chop her up would be an order of magnitude more dangerous than the ship graveyards in India where the West happily sends junk ships to be chopped up because doing it here would either be too dangerous or cost too much. Daily fatalities on each ship there are something we turn a blind eye to and the poverty there ensures that there despite the dangers is no shorta
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It can't cost that much to bring in another ship full of people from the third world desperate
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Informative)
Why all this effort to refloat her? As has been pointed out, she's been partially and asymmetrically submerged for the better part of two years, surely it'd be easier to just send in the divers with cutting torches or shaped charges, split the hull, and float her off in sections on barges (as they ended up doing with MSC Napoli)?
Doing that in a marine sanctuary would have a significant environmental impact.
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Informative)
this is it exactly.
the only reason why she is getting floated out is because cutting her up as she sits would trash the local environment completely. just sitting as she is is doing enough damage.
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um... you should see what they had to build underwater. What they are doing is having signifigant environmental impact already. There are enormous steel girders underneath her supporting her weight as they roll her out onto them. They aren't cutting her in half because she contains huge amounts of diesel fuel and oil.
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Yes. The hull has been lying on its side full of water for two years. This has damaged it beyond repair, which is understandable as the normal operating conditions for a boat are not lying on anything (i.e. floating) in an upright orientation with the water on the outside.
It's simply much more practical to dismantle a ship grounded in a proper dry dock than when it's partly submerged.
Re:this has me wondering (Score:4)
It's off the coast of Italy, you buffoon. The locals siphoned it all off within days.
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oh, yes, I'm sure they had the same concerns regarding the disposal of the MSC Napoli and its proximity to Lyme Bay. ::rolleyes::.
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too rich for my blood. Damn.
Is she still packing? Last I heard, she was still packed with explosives and back in February I think it was, a veteran ordnance disposal guy said it'd cost over £30 million to make it safe... which the Government wanted happening anyway because it's in the way of the new London Airport they've got planned though nobody's asked for (there's already four, how many more do they think they need??).
Overly complex, but working (Score:3)
Doing that in a marine sanctuary would have a significant environmental impact.
That's part of it. The other part is that the ship is on the edge of a slope into deeper water. There was real worry that she'd slide down the slope while passengers were still being evacuated. After that, the big worry was that she'd slide down the slope, break up, and leak bunker oil for years, producing a long-term oil spill. The first phase of salvage (by Smit, the Dutch salvage firm) was to drain the fuel tanks and stabilize the hulk. They did that with few problems.
Then it got political. If Smit had
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Insightful)
Is this a dress rehearsal for RMS Titanic?
I'm curious as to what makes you think it might be.
Is there something aboard Costa Concordia that we shouldn't know about? (yes, I'm thinking of a certain book)
Uh... the Necronomicon?
What's happening right now is a desecration.
Why? We don't leave mangled wrecks of cars by the side of the road. Wouldn't it be a massive hazard to shipping to leave it where it is and let it get slowly chipped to bits by the sea?
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Letting nature take its course can be an ugly business.
Here's one, a sad story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/ss-america-cruise-adrift_n_2663875.html [huffingtonpost.com]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/8_-_AmStar_7.JPG [wikimedia.org]
And the Murmansk (lost during tow to a wrecking yard), now being salvaged:
http://www.afgruppen.com/Removal-of-the-wreck-Murmansk/ [afgruppen.com]
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Informative)
RTFA!
They want to keep the tons of rotting food, fuel, and who knows what else in the ship for environmental reasons. It's also a lot easier and safer to cut up something of that size in drydock.
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Interesting)
It's also a lot easier and safer to cut up something of that size in drydock.
Ships of this size are rarely dismantled in a drydock. Usually they're run up on the beach at Alang or Chittagong and cut apart, mostly by hand. You can actually see these operations in google maps. Check the satellite view of Alang, Gujarat, India, and you'll see dozens of ships in all stages of disassembly.
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Shiver me surprised! well, not that surprised as there's always a market for the cheapest way to solve a problem, even though I would have thought the scrap value of the metal would be worth something.
You weren't wrong when you said dozens [goo.gl]
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Informative)
I don't know why you used a shortened link, but I hit it despite the possibility it might be goatse. Here's where that link takes you: https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Alang,+Gujarat,+India&hl=en&ll=21.401534,72.199316&spn=0.023614,0.027723&geocode=+&hnear=Alang,+Bhavnagar,+Gujarat,+India&t=h&z=15 [google.co.uk]
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Well, some blogs and such don't play nice with long links.
Also people sometimes needs to copy and paste them.
As such, google offers a link shortening service right in google maps (click the chain link icon).
Note the url has /maps/ in it - he couldn't send you to something evil unless it was on google maps, which I suppose there might be stuff here and there.
He could also have trimmed some of the junk in the URL tho...
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ll=21.401534,72.199316&t=h&z=15 [google.co.uk]
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But, but, but... I did cut and paste from the shortened link! It should have been goog.gl/... but I guess either I cocked it up, or google preferred to expand the link trying to be helpful and show us some adverts and link tracking, for our convenience, of course.
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Erm, I'm not tooootally sure what you mean, but, here's the chain. /maps fact, and also strip down the link he provided to make it a bit shorter
1) You provide a link to goo.gl/maps/something
2) Reply worries that this could be a redirect to some evil website, even though goo.gl/maps only ever redirects to maps.google.com
3) I point out this
The extra stuff in the link doesn't have any tracking info in it. Google just adds it to try to make a version of the page that matches what you've been doing (zooming, pa
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ah, I thought the little link had been mangled somehow between pasting it in (for example, you can't click a link on the search results page and select 'copy link' anymore as its not the link to the site, but a link to google that then redirects you to the site).
I thought maps had done something else given that he'd described a long long url.
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how do they get the really large ship i.e. tankers etc that far up the beach. Do they just sail flat out towards the coast and then let the ship plough on until it comes to rest?
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how do they get the really large ship i.e. tankers etc that far up the beach. Do they just sail flat out towards the coast and then let the ship plough on until it comes to rest?
Yes: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ship+breaking+beaching [youtube.com]
Collisions are an obvious hazard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTDV2BqfOVg [youtube.com]
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In fairness, he did say "easier and safer", not "cheaper".
Is it comfortable? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why are you speaking up now?
I'm sure the bumbling amateurs who are making it up as they go along could have benefited from your vast knowledge and experience if only you'd bothered to share them earlier.
You're a hoarder, that's what you are.
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Informative)
Seriously? Have you not been reading the new stories on this over the last 2 years?
The issue is the environmental impact of both the fuel (largely removed) and other things like engine oil, coolant and sewage which may still be aboard. The ship came to rest in what is said to be a sensitive environmental area. I suspect that the insurance company would be on the hook for any damage caused by leaking oil, sewage or anything else that might still be in the ship. Also, the ship sits in about 40 feet of water on the very edge of a 200 Foot trench. If slips off, it will be MUCH harder to clean up the mess. Diving in 20-40 feet is much less difficult and time consuming than when you go over 100 feet and have to start thinking about using helium breathing mixes and such.
They are doing the least risky thing they can come up with. Right the ship, partially re-float it and haul it off to be scrapped some place else where it will be easier, safer and/or less likely to be a problem for the environment.
Your suggestion to just chop it up and haul it off in bite sized chunks might indeed be cheaper, but there are a number of issues with that approach.
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I agree with your post except that for this last sentence, and I think we should be honest: the goal is to scrap it in a place where no one cares about the environment or the health of the workers. That's why Alang [wikipedia.org] gets so much business -- no one cares where the waste goes or if t
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You do have a valid point... Although I think Alang is likely not as sensitive environmental area than where the Costa Concordia currently sits.
Even if you argue there is no difference to the environment no mater where it gets scrapped, there IS a large difference in the financial liability for the environmental damage, which is why they are spending millions more than the ship is worth to haul it off in one piece. I would argue though that the environment at Alang is much better suited to scraping opera
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You really should open your mind. Cruises aren't for me in general, and for most of the reasons you describe. I get bored and I'm not the type to enjoy a tour bus when you could instead be more hands on. That said, people entertain themselves in different ways.
I know one guy who is very hard working, well educated, and owns his own construction business. He is definitely "contributing something of import" to society. But for reasons that escape me, he loves cruises. He loves the 10 days of doing nothing, no
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Even I've had fun on one. We had something of a family reunion on one, and it was a blast. But in all fairness, it was my cousins that made it a blast, and we probably would have had fun in Gitmo. And my dad bought us a cruise for our honeymoon, and it was fun too - but mostly because it wasn't really a standard cruise... the boat simply sailed overnight to Bermuda and then stayed docked for 4 days. It was more of a floating hotel - we hardly were on the boat except to sleep.
This is in essence my basic problem with cruises when coupled with the way that the employees are treated, just one step up from galley slaves. It's irrelevant that you're on a boat because the boat is so big, indeed, dangerously big. It would be smarter in every way to just pick one nice place to have your vacation, and have it there.
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just one step up from galley slaves.
Most of them seemed to be very young 20-somethings having a bit of life adventure, but they definitely are not paid very well. If you think their pay sucks, you should see the pay of workers at the factory where they made the parts for the computer you are writing on.
It would be smarter in every way to just pick one nice place to have your vacation, and have it there.
Me? Sure. Like I said, I agree. But I know people who have done both and prefer cruises. Some of these people definitely do not match the waste-of-life stereotype that you paint.
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The other thing I forgot to mention is senior citizens... I know my grandfather is not very mobile anymore. I mean, he does pretty well for 89, but he's not good for more than 9 holes of golf :)
He likes cruises. He can alternately nap and eat at sea instead of at home. He gets to meet people who don't live in his little senior living development. He gets to see things like calving glaciers and cities that he has no other realistic means to see. He and my grandmother liked to dress up every night for dinner,
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How on earth did you reach this world view? Some of the most brilliant people I know are less than fully functioning human beings... I'm reminded of the famous mathematician Paul Erdos [wikipedia.org], a person whose achievements are truly remarkable but he famously had to ask one of his
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How on earth did you reach this world view?
You know, I appreciate pedantry when it adds something to the conversation, but not when you're just trying to appear fucking clever. But all you're doing is campaigning for stupid, boring comments full of disclaimers. I could have sprinkled my comment with many "most of"s and "many of"s. But you're also missing the fucking point. Paul Erdos, or any other disabled individual, could receive the same treatment on land and without oppressing anyone. I fail to see how you justify ignoring the heart of the argum
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Now that's not a boring comment is it? Maybe it is, since it wasn't made by you. Which does seem to be the deciding factor as to whether something/one is worthwhile or not: whether or not you approve of it/them.
Well, fucking duh. We all have our opinions as to who should live and who should die. I consider myself basically moral because I personally wouldn't kill any of them unless they're in the process of threatening the life of another, but that's just another subjective judgment call.
In short, my logical framework states that if someone puts themselves in a dangerous situation from which they are not prepared to escape should it go all pear-shaped, they deserve to die. And they double-extra deserve to die if t
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I was on a large cruise ship that was hit by hurricane force winds outside of Ft. Lauderdale 2 years ago. The ship listed at 12 degrees; they tip at 40. Everyone was sent back to their room and told to put their life jackets on.
Now, Granny Mae and grandpa Earl, who may or may not be rubes, did not get on this giant boat thinking that this would happen. They aren't "prepared to escape" in the middle of the fucking Atlantic, other than by getting into the lifeboats that are there for them. They are there
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"my logical framework states that if someone puts themselves in a dangerous situation from which they are not prepared to escape should it go all pear-shaped, they deserve to die."
You don't take an elevator, go into a car or go near a car, do you?
Or, well, you already know you deserve to die.
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And don't forget to check that your intended destination meets his ethical standards, or you'll never hear the last of it.
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Insightful)
What I got is that there's only two kinds of people in a shipwreck, those who can make decisions for themselves, and those who are at substantial risk of dying while they wait for someone else to make decisions for them. I watched a documentary on the incident and many people were just sitting around waiting for someone to save them.
Actually four kinds of people: those too dumb to leave when they're in actual danger, those smart enough to get out of danger, those smart enough to know they're not in danger and wait for rescue, and those stupid enough to have the mindset "do something, anything, even if it's wrong." HHGTG is right: Don't panic. Nothing is more dangerous than panic.
Whether to wait or act depends on the situation.
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Informative)
Im not sure how you can miss "condescending" in a statement like
I suppose this type of person is less attractive to lying about in floating cocoons of immaculate white paint. We might choose a less passive adventure.
Is there really anything wrong with the community agreeing that cruises are for the weak and stupid?
Yes. Its the same mindframe that leads to racism: Anyone who doesnt look like / act like / enjoy the same things as me, is inferior to me. Its self-centered pride to the extreme, and its astonishing youd have the nerve to try to defend it.
For less money you could patronize a beachfront resort, which if you look around can belong to the same family that's cooking your food.
Gosh, heres a shocker, maybe someone has done beach vacations for years and wants to be on a boat! Maybe theyre older, retired, and not as able to move as when they were younger, and want a quieter vacation! They must be weak, lazy, and stupid, I guess.
Cruise ships are just another example of conspicuous consumption, and if you want a medal for doing nothing
By your logic, so is going to a beachfront resort. Shopping, lazing about, how wasteful. Im sure youre a blast at parties.
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If im getting this right, your logic is that "locals" are better than a cruise company.
Except that that resort is probably owned by Sheraton or Hilton, and the money goes to corporate, where it pays down the chain.
At the end of the day, businesses get your money, and at the end of the day your patronage pays an employee who probably lives "locally" (at one of the ports the cruise stops at). You can set all of the arbitrary morality laws you want, it doesnt really excuse the superiority complex that you and
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If im getting this right, your logic is that "locals" are better than a cruise company.
Except that that resort is probably owned by Sheraton or Hilton, and the money goes to corporate, where it pays down the chain.
You're not getting this right. If you could read, you'd see that I repeatedly mention that you'd have to shop around on this basis. When I went to Panama and Costa Rica, I didn't stay in anything that wasn't owned by someone who lived where I stayed.
The attitude "Im better than you" might be one of the vilest tendencies of humanity, and you and epine are both celebrating it. Congratulations.
How about the attitude "It's okay to be a materialistic shithead no matter what the consequences to others", how wonderful is your celebration of that tired bullshit?
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There's likely thousands of people on a cruise ship, and the only way to save them all is for everybody to get in the lifeboats in a more-or-less orderly fashion. This requires people to stand or sit around and wait for somebody to rescue them. When this breaks down, people are going to
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Did you miss all the sex meetup rooms where they sell ethanol-based stress-reducing libations?
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How do you expect the unexpected? By the very definition of these words it would be an oxymoron.
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How do you expect the unexpected? By the very definition of these words it would be an oxymoron.
No one expects their ship to wreck, but the ship carries lifeboats anyway. No one expects the captain of their ship to abandon without seeing to the safety of the passengers, but that's what happened, and some of the people who weren't prepared for that eventuality died. You expect the unexpected by expecting something unexpected to happen, and then being prepared to deal with it when it happens. Yeah, nobody wants the job of protecting their own life while on vacation, we go on vacation to get away from co
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What I don't get about this is what's so horribly wrong with a captain abandoning the ship?
I mean, seriously.... do they expect a captain to just go down with the ship and simply die if something entirely unexpected happens to the ship?
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Insightful)
What I don't get about this is what's so horribly wrong with a captain abandoning the ship?
He's supposed to be the one organizing the evacuation efforts. He's the one people are reporting the condition of the ship to. He's in charge of the stupid ship. If he leaves, you have a major organizational change on the ship at the worst possible time. He should not go down with the ship, but he should be one of the last ones off.
Re:this has me wondering (Score:5, Informative)
What I don't get about this is what's so horribly wrong with a captain abandoning the ship?
International maritime law prohibits the captain abandoning the ship before evacuating the passengers. Their lives are his responsibility. It's equivalent to a bus driver leaving a bus full of passengers teetering on the edge of a precipice and then just running away without trying to get them out.
In addition, in this case the captain sat around holding his dick and pretending that the ship wasn't sinking for quite some time before he even ran away.
I mean, seriously.... do they expect a captain to just go down with the ship and simply die if something entirely unexpected happens to the ship?
Nothing unexpected happened to the ship. What happened is precisely what you would expect to happen if you drive a ship into an area clearly marked as too shallow and hazardous.
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What I don't get about this is what's so horribly wrong with a captain abandoning the ship?
He's allowed to leave; he doesn't have to go down with the ship in the event of every accident. But he's also supposed to be the most capable and informed person on the boat and the most qualified to organize evacuation efforts. It's his responsibility and obligation to do everything he can to ensure the safety of people who have entrusted their lives to his judgement.
A captain abandoning his still-occupied ship is like a homeowner sneaking out the back without telling his guests that the kitchen is on fi
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Do you have evidence of passengers just waiting around until they died? as opposed to being immediately trapped and unable to help themselves short of diving equipment and possibly cutting gear for getting through closed doors/debris?
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Do you have evidence of passengers just waiting around until they died?
If you haven't seen any of the documentaries on the subject, that might seem like a completely reasonable question. Hint: it isn't. You could also find this out from other sources. Do your basic research before asking questions.
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Provide your basic research when making a point.
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Indeed some of the fatalities were people trying to help others to safely evacuate. Francis Servel died after giving his life vest to his wife, who could not swim. Russel Terence Rebello was a Filipino waiter who stayed onboard to help with the evacuation, but then fell to his death when the list became too severe. Many died inside the ship because they followed the crews' orders to cross the ship as it was capsizing.
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Well, actually it is reasonable to expect that a ship might wreck so carrying lifeboats is a good idea. Expecting the unexpected would be carrying space suits just in case the ship would fly.
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Expecting the unexpected could mean that you expect something to happen that you couldn't expect... not necessarily that you expect the specific unexpected event itself... just that you expect some specific unexpected event to occur.
Which, of course, still makes it a completely useless piece of advice beyond "Don't let your guard down. Ever."
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Swiss army knife.
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Swiss army knife.
These days, they might take that away at the metal detectors. I think duct tape is still ok.
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The autonomous and self-defined individual goes through life expecting the unexpected, but then I suppose this type of person is less attractive to lying about in floating cocoons of immaculate white paint.
Hold on a sec. Is it appropriate to evoke some Kantian ideal of living one's own life while simultaneously deriding those who choose something else for themselves? If a person is free to choose, mustn't others be free to choose even what you don't approve of?
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But do it from orbit, just to be sure!
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Re:Cost of salvage Cost of replacement?? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm fairly sure the cost of a new ship and the cost of salvage have absolutely nothing to do with each other. It's like saying "Why both removing the tree that fell on my roof? It's cheapest just to plant a new tree!" That's what the Costa Concordia is right now... a tree that fell on the roof. It needs to be chopped up and hauled away for scrap and they're trying to do it without causing more damage to the roof (which is largely the marine environment and tourism in this bad analogy).
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Two things say it's better to right the ship, partially re-float it and haul it off.
First, there are likely many gallons of oils, fuels and hazardous materials aboard this ship that would be released when you chop up a ship like this. Yes, they have removed as much of this stuff as they can, but there is no way to get it all with the ship underwater.
Second, the ship sits on the very edge of a trench that is a few hundred feet deep. If you start chopping up the ship and things start down into that channe