Fighting Zombies? Chevrolet Reveals New "Black Ops" Concept Truck 220
cartechboy writes "Whether its the Mayan calendar, a rough economy, or a fear of zombies, there are people who are currently preparing for the end of the world, coming, like, soon. And they can attract some fringe elements. So maybe those elements are worth a little truck marketing. Yesterday at the Texas State Fair, Chevrolet unveiled a "Black Ops" concept truck that it says will "explore the extremes of preparedness." The truck comes with a vault storage unit, solar power pack, gas masks, gloves, a military first aid kit, a folding shovel, a generator and some rope. Twinkies apparently not included."
Good grief. (Score:5, Insightful)
This is just a basic Silverado 1500 Crew Cab with a stupid paint job and a bunch of crap thrown in that and "prepper" already has. For Chevy's sake I hope this stays a "concept car" because the "concept" sucks and if this is a serious direction, Chevy is in serious trouble.
This is posted at Slashdot why? Oh. Zombies.
Why do people want to survive the end of the world (Score:2)
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Why do people want to survive the end of the world? So after the dust settles they can starve to death eating their own loneliness?
Because we don't expect to be lonely. We expect our friends and families to survive along with us. I live in California, so I am more concerned with a major earthquake than zombies. I am also concerned about a major contagious disease outbreak, or a weather anomaly that causes major crop failures (this happened in 535-536 [wikipedia.org], 1315-1317 [wikipedia.org], and in 1815 [wikipedia.org]). So I have about a year's worth of food for my family, basic tools and survival equipment, and (since I am an American) an assault rifle. Even if a crisis never comes, I am still saving money by buying food in bulk, and growing most of my own vegetables. I also have a some chickens for eggs. You may think that being prepared is kooky, but if you look back through history, there is at least a 30% chance of a major calamity occurring during your lifetime. By the time you see it coming, the store shelves will be bare, and it will be too late. So I think it is foolish to not be prepared. Some of my neighbors also have a stash of supplies, and we are prepared to work together to fight off the zombies.
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and (since I am an American) an assault rifle
Isn't an "assault weapon" a scary looking rifle, and an "assault rifle" a fully-automatic military weapon?
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Good, because my neighbors are stocking up on the incandescent (60W, 75W mostly) lightbulbs before companies stop making them and switch over to them 'green' energy-saving lightbulbs
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Is your rifle grandfathered, or are you using hyperbole and describing a semi-automatic weapon as an assault rifle?
It is an AR-15, and I have owned it since 1982. I also have a M870 shotgun. In the event of a zombie attack, my wife would use the rifle, and I would use the shotgun (it kicks too much for her). I don't own any other guns, so our kids will focus on reloading magazines (I have trained them to use a speed loader).
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Assault rifle is selectable full auto by definition. You don't own one.
Assault weapon means scary ugly gun that's on some list.
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Assault rifle is selectable full auto by definition. You don't own one.
Assault weapon means scary ugly gun that's on some list.
Sorry, I was unaware of the distinction. So I own an "assault weapon" that is a rifle, but not an "assault rifle". Got it.
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Wherein 'zombies' are a placeholder for 'other (hungry) people', I presume? How christian of you..
I am only a "3" on the Dawkin's Scale [wikipedia.org], and certainly not a Christian. Instead of the bible, I prefer the moral lesson of The Little Red Hen [wikipedia.org]. Why should my family starve because you made a conscious decision not to prepare? But I am still helping my fellow humans more than you are: When the Yellowstone Caldera erupts, and blocks out the sun, you will rush out in a panic buying spree, thus depriving others. But I will already have my stash, built up during times of plenty, so I will need to take nothing from others.
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I guess you'd consider yourself a 'prepper' then? I used to watch 'Doomsday Preppers' and always got a chuckle out of the sort of things people were prepping against. While it is possible that Yellowstone Caldera will supererupt, the last one was 640,000 years ago - so I give you reasonable odds it won't happen in your lifetime or even the lifetime of humanity. It is true that it might erupt today due to being a fairly unpredicatable event, but it's far more true that it likely won't erupt for another 100,0
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There is an entire religion (Christianity) that is dedicated to worshipping a zombie, so that's not entirely surprising...
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Actually this is an offshoot of the Canyonero.
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
65 tons of American Pride!
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I am not buying one of these until they add-on a swivel mounted 50 caliber SAW and some reactive armor.
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I could not ignore this mistake.
A SAW is a Squad Automatic Weapon. It is meant to be carried and operated by one person, man-portable.
A .50 cal M2 Browning MG (Machine Gun) is a crew served weapon, and classed as a Heavy Machine Gun. It takes a crew of people just to transport it, and setting it up, and keeping it in operation.
The 'swivel mount' is known as a 'pintle mount'.
Finally, you don't want reactive armor at your SAW, or HMG, unless the guns are remote operated. You DO NOT want to be near reactive
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Posted on /. because there is absolutely no mention of zombie-time cupholders.
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Oh, the bureaucrats I'm familiar with only appear singly, or perhaps in pairs in a pinch. Can't recall them slobbering, ever. Moving slowly, sure. Mindless - give you that. Well, one sort of mind. But otherwise, don't see it. "Hey Peter, what's happening. We need to talk about your TPS reports. That, and your BRAIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNS!"
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I, for one, always thought 'zombie' a euphemism for bureaucrat.
In the movie "American Carol", the lawyers for the ACLU were zombies.
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Zombie is a hate word, we prefer to be called 'The Infected'!
Re:Does anyone understand the "zombies" craze? (Score:5, Insightful)
As somebody who isn't a hipster, and who isn't part of Generation Y, maybe I just won't ever understand it. But the whole concept of "zombies" and any fascination with it comes off as really idiotic, petty and rather stupid.
I don't think this has anything to do with hipsters, or Gen Y.
From what I can see, the zombie apocalypse is partly a joke and mostly a convenient abstraction which stands in place of any of dozens of different disaster scenarios. The zombie apocalypse is nice in that it captures a sort of maximally extreme yet potentially-survivable scenario. There are plenty of possible disasters for which preparedness is just pointless (because you'd be dead anyway), but once you exclude those from consideration, the needs of survival in the remaining, more or less realistic, disaster scenarios are pretty neatly covered by the clearly-fictional notion of societal collapse brought on by the sudden conversion of much of humanity into mindless undead predators.
In a nutshell: If you're well-prepared for the zombie apocalypse, odds are good that you're also well-prepared for any real disaster, so it's a nice target.
Mod parent up. (Score:5, Interesting)
Zombie movies are not about zombies.
They are about human behaviour when the constraints of civilization have been removed. Zombies are just the easy explanation why civilization collapsed (and stays collapsed).
Ideally, that is to show insights into society and the roles within it and how various types of people fit into those.
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Re:Mod parent up. (Score:4, Informative)
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I was with you up until the bacon. Curse you.
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I think you can trace most zombie moves back to the awesome film, 28 Days Later, which helped revive the whole zombie survival thing. 28 Days Later itself stood on the shoulders of the Romero zombie flicks. Even if you haven't seen the films, you really should watch the opening 20 minutes to see London deserted after the ZA.
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I'll be over here on my bike, riding around eating twinkies
Plan on nuts and jerky. Twinkies actually have a very short shelf life compared to what people think.
Re:Does anyone understand the "zombies" craze? (Score:4, Interesting)
Suspiciously absent from the list of supplies to have on hand, however, is a ruggedized pickup truck. Medical supplies, duct tape, plastic tarps, potable water, and dry food rations were all highly valued, as was a robust preparedness plan by the federal and local governments, with a focus on organization and communication.
And if I were preparing for a zombie apocalypse, I'd be focusing more on physical defense. Strong property fences, no glass windows on the ground floor, defensible yard, and other physical barriers are more important in zombie attacks. Military invasion, and the others on the list don't have that as a strong requirement, though I know plenty who are arming themselves to prevent looters, and zombies and looters are alike except for their reaction to being shot, or having others in the area shot.
So I guess then it's a good thing you bought a truck and a gun. Better hope you brought a really big gas tank too, because when that runs out, you are totally screwed.
Motorbike and a tank of gas. I can go 50-100 miles on a gallon. And traffic/roads aren't as much of an issue. Worth it for the gain in top speed over your method. I can go hundreds of miles in a day, if need be. And siphon off a gallon at a time from stopped traffic, for great extensions in range.
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I suppose for a single individual, a bike plus a good bike trailer (or maybe a backpack and/or large panniers) would be a good option. I have a wife and four kids, though... oh, and I don't live in an urban area.
I'll stick with my SUV + camp trailer, thanks. The trailer is always packed with canned food, cooking & heating fuel, water purification equipment, has solar panels for electricity, etc. It's also got tents, sleeping bags, and all sorts of other assorted camping equipment and tools -- includin
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who are you going after... the bicyclist, or the guy with a truck and a lock safe containing untold goodies?
Yeah, I notice that all the truck food and water and gas and geny are in the open truck bed. So after zombies (or your neighbors) steal all your stuff, you're boned.
Also, you have a big gas engine under the hood. Any reason you couldn't hook that up to generate power instead or dragging around an entirely separate gas engine?
Paint job is flashy. If you're going to be camping out in the woods you might be better off with something like a us4ces camo. If you're going to be camping out in an urban environment
Re:Does anyone understand the "zombies" craze? (Score:5, Insightful)
If you're prepped for zombies your friends consider you a fool.
If you're not prepped for zombies your "friends" consider you food.
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Nevermind zombies ... didn't concern over the Mayan calendar end when the world didn't in 2012?
Re:Does anyone understand the "zombies" craze? (Score:5, Interesting)
Zombies are the ideal fantasy opponent for a doomsday scenario. They have most of the strengths of humans, thus (supposedly) requiring heavy firepower and good tactics to defend against them, but being sub-human (lacking a soul, whatever) and extremely dangerous, there is little to no aversion to the use of violence against them.
Put it another way, if a prepper told anyone that they were loading up on weapons to be able to attack fellow humans during a crisis, they would be labeled psycho and probably have their weapons taken away.
But... if they're gearing up to fight "zombies", they can stockpile all the weapons they want and only appear to be a little paranoid.
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But... if they're gearing up to fight "zombies", they can stockpile all the weapons they want and only appear to be a little paranoid.
So, like this?
So, Dave, what's with all the automatic weapons and the cases of surplus MRE packages? Coomunists? Race war? The IRS? OBAMACARE ? No?
Oh, ZOMBIES?
Yes, that's only a "little" paranoid, Dave...
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Theeeeyyyyyyre Baaaaaaack! At least around Chicago area. Twinkie the Kid rides again!
But they are scaled down! They are about 2/3 of their former size. Probably to make the caloric claims sound less outrageous, but they taste the same.
I also am getting tired of the zombie crap, the world didn't end in 2012 - get over it, already...
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You remember the whole Mayan calendar thing, and some other cosmic alignment that occurred sometime around then as well. Much to everyone's disappointment, the world did not end either of those times...
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Zombies? No. Twinkies! Harder to find than heroin...
We never lost they in Canada because our were made by Saputo which licensed them from Hostess.
Thanks (Score:3)
I looked at TFA and saw the links to related articles on the right hand side. I found my preferred zombie apocalypse vehicle [motorauthority.com]. Not the Chevy.
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Doesn't it worry you how much 'glass' there is in the front?
Slow moving zombies, sure. But fast, angry zombies would punch a hole in that in no time.
"Black Ops," eh? (Score:5, Interesting)
You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Sou you can hang yourself after you realize you just wasted your life.
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Yeah, pretty much that.
Totally Unprepared (Score:5, Funny)
Unless it comes with an oil rig and refinery.
Survival kit contents check (Score:2)
"In the bed is a (presumably) zombie-proof Truck Vault storage unit, containing a solar power pack, gas masks, gloves, a military First Aid kit, a folding shovel, and rope. Mounted atop the storage locker are a generator, fuel can, and food and water rations."
Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
Snicker Snort. (Score:4, Informative)
Unless it's got a fully manual transmission and an engine that can run on when the electrical system goes away, it's crap. And guess what? This vehicle has neither. It's got a six-speed automatic and it's got a gasoline engine with full electronic control. Gasoline spoils rapidly and it's nontrivial to make more. Not impossible — you can use the ABE process, which is not exactly a new thing, to make Butanol. That's a 1:1 replacement.
If you would like an actual apocalypsemobile, that's a Unimog (to get the seating capacity of this Silverado, a Doka) with an OM617.951 upgrade. It will cost you a pretty penny for a nice one with amenities like a heater, but it will go places that would make the Silverado weep and you can get one with hydraulics which can be used to run a winch that you would be hard-pressed to damage without ripping it out of the front of the truck. It will also continue running in the event of complete electrical failure, including your hydraulic winch.
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Funny, in the "related articles" section on TFA, they had a blurb on exactly that.
The problem with the Unimog is that any non paraplegic zombie can outrun one and, if something does break, you'll never find the parts. It's basically a tractor with four wheels.
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You're right about parts availability
You're right, us in Europe can get the parts but we don't have to worry about your zombies.
Overrated? (Score:2)
OK, who gave Chevrolet modpoints?
Market Demographics (Score:2)
What will appeal to red necks visiting a car show?
Well, they like to think they are self sufficient and like the 'be prepared' excuse when buying their man toys. As weak in analytical skill and technical knowledge as they are with keeping down their beer guts. A cool food? Twinkies. Naturally. I couldn't see the beer but it must be in there.
I'm surprised they didn't put in a place for a beer maker. This isn't made to attract nerds; it is made to draw in some potential truck buyers to their area (booth b
Re:Snicker Snort. (Score:5, Insightful)
Gasoline spoils rapidly
I stored a car for 5 years. "store" meant putting it on jacks to relieve the pressure on the tires, and disconnecting the battery from the car and putting on a trickle charger once a month for a few days.
Hooked up the battery after 5 years, and it turned over first try. Smelled like crap when the dust and (presuambly) bugs that had ended up in the exhaust burned off, but ran without an issue on 5-year old "regular" gasoline. No stabilizer was added.
And when I lived in Alaska, I had a summer car. It was in storage, un-run for 6-months of the year. One of my storage activities would be to fill the tank before parking it. 6-months storage, full tank, never spoiled the fuel.
Given that I've been in a place to see it happen many times, and it never did, don't believe in it anymore. It was made up by the people who make fuel stabilizers, or started back when the fuel was of very poor quality.
Add that to your irrational attack on automatic, and you look like an uninformed vehicle snob.
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In the old days, tanks weren't sealed (not the fuel tank in cars, and not the stations underground tanks). The gas could oxidize or become contaminated. If your car has a "whoosh" when you open the tank, then you have a pressurized and sealed tank. Your gas will keep indefinitely, presuming it wasn't already contaminated before storage.
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Apparently all gasoline in Alaska is ethanol free. Or maybe the low temperatures slow the decay. The stories about it started before ethanol was common, so I'd guess it's having an unpressurized storage container in high heat will result in decay over time. That would get the results that have been reported as well, without violating rules of chemistry and physics that the myth. Mythbusters to the rescue, 100 year episode.
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Horses get you around, but they'll be zombie bait, if the zombies eat horses.
Sounds like my car (Score:2)
Except for the vault and gas masks, I think I have all that stuff in my car right now. Plus rope and tools.
Uh, sure. OK (Score:2)
Petrol (Score:2)
Right.... And what are you going to do when this thing runs out of petrol 10 miles down the road...
If ready for zombies, ready for anything (Score:5, Interesting)
I had a fascinating talk last month with a man who lives near a flood plain. Not in it, but the dikes have been overwhelmed enough times in his lifetime that he's seen failures of basic transport and utilities for the area half a dozen times. He uses "surviving a zombie apocalypse" as his guideline for preparedness. So he keeps a plentiful supply of ammo, and practices with his weapons, and loads his own ammo: he also hunts with those and with a bow, and keeps a freezer full of venison. He also keeps quite a large amount of long-term stable food stores, some water and _water testing and purification_ tools. His vehicles are well built, maintained, and he has several small generators, one in the basement (for weather reasons) and one in a vehicle (for portable use).
He's also doing backup fire and rescue duties for his county, and if there's a problem nearby, I want _him_ as one of my first responders.
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keeps a freezer full of venison.
Hope he has a generator dedicated solely to powering that freezer, otherwise things will go real bad in a hurry.
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Really doesn't take too much power to keep a good freezer cold. If you run the generator an hour or so per day and don't leave the door open, you can freeze stuff for a long time.
And if you do lose power, you invite the neighbors over and have a big almost-end-of-the-world party.
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He'll smoke it later, if he has to. It keeps well frozen, and it's also safer from vermin in the freezer.
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Wouldn't a typical top-loading/chest freezer handle this pretty well? They're well insulated, lose very little cold when opened, and are pretty standard among hunters and other folks of that sort that store meats for the long-term. Even if the power went out, a quick check through some survival-oriented forums seems to indicate that you can expect a packed one of those to stay frozen for at least three days, longer if you insulate it better or add dry ice.
Not to mention that solar power is becoming a lot mo
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"dikes" are butch lesbians. Maybe you meant dykes?
No: traditionally dyke [wikipedia.org] is slang for a lesbian, and dike [wikipedia.org] is the British English term for a barrier wall against water ("levee" in American English).
People mix them up often enough that they're both listed with the other term in parenthesis, though...and just to confuse the matter, dyke is used to refer to a narrow drainage ditch in Norfolk & Suffolk Broads or a low field wall in Scotland.
Real horsepower (Score:5, Insightful)
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Hard to keep horses in the garage in the unlikely event of a (insert specifics here) apocalypse. Horses are a lifestyle - great if you can pull it off. Hay is getting incredibly expensive in a lot of places. Your neighbor might not want their lawn and garden clipped quite so close.
Besides, if you're a real survivalist, you won't touch a horse. They're pretty high maintenance. You want a donkey. Or some goats.
Me, I'll stick to my pickup truck for as long as I can.
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Not really - horses are very high maintenance, fairly delicate, and expensive to maintain. That's why, historically and today, they were/are in the main restricted to the upper classes and why the mounted arm of the cavalry was r
Re:Real horsepower (Score:4, Funny)
Nay, naaay!
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A better way to be prepared would be to own and be able to ride a horse.
Sadly, the truth is that you'd need to own several horses, and you'd also need grazing land for them. Most of the objections have been made already in this thread but the remedy hasn't even been discussed. It all highlights the fact that barring massive amounts of capital to work with, the only reasonable defense against zombies is a defense in depth involving an entire community. In a full community model, a stable makes sense.
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A better way to be prepared would be to own and be able to ride a horse.
Only if you have lots of grazing land that doesn't require irrigation, a water source that doesn't require power, and several horses. Most horses are high-maintenance. But there are horses used to living on their own. One of my friends has a wild mustang from the Bureau of Land Management, trained to be a good trail horse. She's ridden into town when the power went out and the road was flooded.
I'm on horseback several times a week, but my present horse wouldn't be that useful in an emergency. He's kept in
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Tallahassee (Score:4, Funny)
They should call it the Tallahassee.
What about the whiskey? (Score:2)
a folding shovel... and some rope
They left out the bottle of whiskey and the huge dildo [wikipedia.org]... :p
Single fuel type? (Score:4, Interesting)
Gasoline is probably the worst fuel type to rely on after the Zombie apocalypse -- most gasoline sources will be in underground gas station tanks and you'll need to find a way to pump it out while fending off the zombies. Diesel can be found in above ground generator tanks in most large commercial buildings.
They should have gone with a Multi-fuel [wikipedia.org] engine to broaden the potential fuel sources - adding diesel and jet fuel to your potential fuel sources gives you a lot of flexibility as you escape the zombie horde.
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Ford tried some cars with Capstone turbines in 'em, but I haven't heard anything about that in a while. Problem is, turbine engines are delicate and finicky, not the kind of thing you want to be relying upon in the post-apocalypse.
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Absolutely, Diesel truck pulling a digester will be perfect. You kill zombies and stuff their bodies in the digester that turns them into a bio fuel.
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No problem at that point because Zombie truck will simply try to eat other trucks. It will make things a lot easier.
Wrong car. There is only one... (Score:2, Interesting)
There is only one suitable car available to buy by everyone. The Paramount Marauder.
Here is a pic next to a hummer : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eNodvYO-1qs/T6rBLC-h1sI/AAAAAAAAAH0/lgJeiw3dxMA/s1600/Marauder+next+to+hummer.jpg
The Maurauder can withstand 8kg of TNT under any wheel without sustaining any substantial damage.
It's bullet proof (incl RPGs), is over-pressured to protect against biological and chemical attacks, has more torques than a HGV (it can pull real full size trucks; regardless if you put a fo
Toyota from Top Gear (Score:3)
I thought the guys at Top Gear figured out the best survivor-type pickup was the Toyota Hilux?
http://topgear.wikia.com/wiki/Toyota_Hilux/ [wikia.com]
This one was pretty awesome. I would want a truck that won't break down no matter what I do to it.
Complete Crap..... (Score:2)
Compared to a Jeep decked out for the same thing. Problem is Chevy is built for roads, Jeep is built for dirt and rocks.
They might as well built a Chevy Volt zombie edition.
Newage Marketing (Score:2)
1. Feed the trolls
2. Sell to trolls
3. Profit
GM (Score:2)
Recipient of billions in government bailout money uses rugged individualist self-sufficiency as marketing tool. The irony is so thick you need a chainsaw attached to your arm stump to cut it.
Stupid Chevy (Score:2)
Rather have a pre-1975 4x4 with solid axles, carburetor and points ignition. Ideally diesel. Can be had for under 3K: 1970's broncos, GMC K5's, Jeep CJ/5's, old school land rovers, WW2 dodge power wagons and 6x6 trucks.
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sides reinforcement? (Score:2)
seriously, the zombies will seriously kill the owner of this truck in no time, simply break the windows!
windows are the weakest point in this truck and they reinforce the side panels? the second that the window is broken, zombies will simply walk up to the door and take a bite out of anyone in that truck!
Crappy Windows (Score:2)
Does it also come with the sort of cheap windows that any zombie can smash with their hands just by slapping against them a few times? How about an ignition that never works in the presence of danger? I like the way the storage is all open on the back tray of the truck, so if I want to get that shovel I better be prepared for a jump shot zombie attack!
In Australia (Score:2)
After the ZA has come and gone it's going to be Mad Max over here. I'll be cruising around with my bro in a 1973 Torana G-Pak (Canary Yellow with a thick black stripe) looking cool as fuck while you guys all drive around in your soccer mum crapboxes ;p We all know how zombie movies go - the hero drives the best looking ride - everyone else ends up dead.
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An AR-15? for what shooting squirrels? Real men shoot an AR-10 and AR-30 for their rifles.