Google's Rogue Internet Balloon Test Spurred UFO Reports Nationwide 65
Jason Koebler (3528235) writes "The hardest thing about Google X's Project Loon hasn't been the engineering challenge of beaming high-speed internet down to the far-flung corners of the world: It's trying to control all those freaking balloons. Project lead Rich DeVaul just revealed the 'Falcon 11,' a 120-foot long transparent mylar balloon made in-house at the secret Google X lab that spurred UFO reports nationwide after the company lost track of it: 'We tracked the balloon by outsourcing to the internet UFO community, it drifted all the way across the country,' he said."
reading comprehension? or network "news"? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:reading comprehension? or network "news"? (Score:5, Funny)
As much as Google loves to fuck us, I'm surprised they didn't deploy anal probes too.
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Just what leads you to believe they did not?
If Google had been performing anal probes, there would be a new 'Colonoscopy results' tab on your G+ page.
On the other hand, who would notice if it was only linked to G+?
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It is beta so if you submit your feature requests they'll probably add them. ....if you like that kind of thing.
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They already did. ;)
What's the protocol? (Score:1)
Surely Google would have had to report that one of their balloons had gone rogue to the FAA, correct? Can't imagine that it doesn't become a hazard to aircraft especially if it drifts near an airport.
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Well, google says "about 12 miles up" ... That actually gets slightly tricky (iirc only a few sectors have controlled airspace above FL600)
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According to eyewitness testimonial, sighting was with clear, blue, cloudless skies, no aircraft in sight, altitude unknown but definitely above airliner cruising altitude. The object hovered roughly in the same location for over 2 hours, not drifting more than 10 degrees in any direction. Was sighted approximately 60 degrees above the horizon. Image in video was shot with about 150 power magnification.
That's the quote from one of TFA...
Re:What's the protocol? (Score:4, Insightful)
"According to eyewitness testimonial, sighting was with clear, blue, cloudless skies, no aircraft in sight, altitude unknown but definitely above airliner cruising altitude."
So no reference but thew new the altitude?
The testimony is worth exactly nothing. This is a common problem with 'UFO seekers' they have no idea that they can't actual give a distance with any accuracy without reference.. So the 'distance' they see something is set at whatever the bias of the viewer wants it to be.
The person who took the video refuses to believe it's acutally a Balloon and thinks Google is lying. So idiocy abounds.
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I don't know about this balloon, but the ones I've been tracking on FlightRadar are solidly *above* controlled airspace. Airliners tend to hang out around 30,000-40,000 feet, business jets are typically 35,000-45,000 feet, and Google's balloons are at 60,000 feet and above.
UFOs exist (Score:5, Insightful)
Any unidentified flying object is a UFO. I just despair at people immediately assuming that means it's extraterrestial in nature.
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Only some fake UFOs disappear. The unidentified UFO objects remain!
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In the same way, your fist disappear as soon as you open your hand.
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Kind of by definition, as you've essentially expanded the acronym. :-P
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Quite. All those mid-20th century UFOs were much more likely to be military test craft which nobody wanted to acknowledge to the Russkis.
Often they were actually sightings of captured/purchased Russian aircraft such as the MiG-17 that the US was secretly studying. The profile of a MiG-17 is different enough from US planes at the time (F-101, F-4, F-8) that one could easily mistake it as something other than a plane, especially if it was unpainted.
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I know, but some people believe in all that stuff. Then again, that's all "UFO" is ever used for anyway, so there's no problem.
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When you have organisations like MUFON who are more interested in alien invaders than weather balloons, you can understand the usage.
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Since the fact majority of uses is for that, it's a decent assumption. If you don't like it, blame the UFO(alien) community that co-opted it.
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Any unidentified flying object is a UFO.
This tautology contest is a tautology contest.
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And everyone is a winner.
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A significant subset probably believes that they're evidence of a conspiracy instead.
it's trying to control all those freaking balloons (Score:2)
it's trying to control all those freaking balloons
now that wasn't too hard to predict, was it?
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Hey now! I live in Kansas... just because we have a few very vocal nut jobs doesn't make us all nut jobs.
I've concluded that they make the news so much because unless there is a tornado not much else really happens here. I know it sounds boring but sometimes that's a good thing.
Jets? (Score:1)
Oh the irony (Score:3)
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Kind of sad (Score:2)
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It's kind of sad that we are so disillusioned with our own world that we need to convince ourselves of things like UFOs.
Partly, but I also wonder how much of it is because some people will convince themselves of anything just to feel special because they know The Truth. The more ridiculous the thing, the more special a person it takes to know that it's true.
c.f. conspiracy theories down the ages.
Reminds me of the Hyperblimp reports (Score:3)
There's a high-end RC hybrid-blimp-thing called the Hyperblimp, it's about 50ft long and transparent. It's been featured by various news stations as a UFO many times. Even with some pics close enough that you can see that it's clearly composed of non-exotic man-made technology. *facepalm*
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I've seen picture of Chinese floating lanterns which are clearly 50 feet away(reference point: trees) and people say it' a UFO miles away.
At least they stopped when I pointed out the hard to see marking on the lantern oh, no they didn't they called me names and went out about the 'truth'.
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Speaking of RC and amateur devices, I'm surprised that they didn't just use APRS to keep track of the balloons [aprs.net]. The power budget of a GPS and VHF transmitter are tiny and they can tie into the network (almost) no matter where, or how high, the balloon goes.
The transmissions aren't commercial in nature, so as long as there is a licensed ham there is should be all legal.
It can be tracked easily. (Score:3)
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How hard would it be to find it? (Score:3)
Easy to identify (Score:2)
http://s47.photobucket.com/use... [photobucket.com]
morons (Score:2)
So Google lost a balloon (Score:1)
A simple way to control a balloon (Score:2)
This is way old, but can be usefull to help Google control their balloons. http://www.gaerospace.com/proj... [gaerospace.com]