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Microsoft Fixing Windows 8 Flaws, But Leaving Them In Windows 7 218

mask.of.sanity sends this news from El Reg: "Microsoft has left Windows 7 exposed by only applying security upgrades to its newest operating systems. Researchers found the gaps after they scanned 900 Windows libraries using a custom diffing tool and uncovered a variety of security functions that were updated in Windows 8 but not in 7. They said the shortcoming could lead to the discovery of zero day vulnerabilities. The missing safe functions were part of Microsoft's dedicated libraries intsafe.h and strsafe.h that help developers combat various attacks. [Video, slides.]"
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Microsoft Fixing Windows 8 Flaws, But Leaving Them In Windows 7

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  • Shoddy Ethics (Score:4, Interesting)

    by mfh ( 56 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @02:13PM (#47186935) Homepage Journal

    The bugs exist for a reason. If it's not broken now why buy the new version?

  • by penguinoid ( 724646 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @02:42PM (#47187011) Homepage Journal

    Sorry Microsoft, people use your product for two reasons: 1) it's well entrenched 2) it's easy to use and familiar. If you want them to switch from win 7 to win 8, you have to do it by ruining the usability of win 7, not its security.

  • Re:Amazed (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Funk_dat69 ( 215898 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @03:02PM (#47187057)

    Why would anyone new enter a market that has clearly peaked? Smartphones and tablets are replacing PCs for web surfing, video watching, social media, email and some gaming. You basically have your enthusiast gamers (not really that big of a market) content creators and developers left.
    And I don't see how you call open source a joke. The only thing funny is that some people still look to Microsoft or Apple to tell them what technology to use. Why?
    Windows 8 is a very confused product, reflecting the confusion of it's parent company.

    Who needs this crap? Give Linux a chance. On the server it's a no-brainer. On the desktop, it takes some getting used to, but it is more than adequate for what you need from desktop OS.

  • by PrimaryConsult ( 1546585 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @03:19PM (#47187103)

    I've successfully gotten die-hard MS Office users to use OpenOffice precisely because it had menus rather than the stupid ribbon. The Oracle branding helped, and I think the Apache one probably would be just as effective.

  • by LordLimecat ( 1103839 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @03:33PM (#47187153)

    Richard Stallman is full of crap if he is claiming that Windows is endemically, technically less secure. Anyone remember the Pwn2Own games? Anyone remember what OS fell first every time? Thats right, fully patched OSX (think that changed ~2012).

    This could turn into a debate lasting days, but suffice it to say that from a technical level Windows is pretty secure. 90% of all exploits these days hit third-party applications that also happen to run on Linux and OSX (flash, java, adobe reader). Im sure Stallman would rail against those too, and he would actually be right, but the point is that the vast majority of users need those plugins and he is being deceitful if he is attempting to paint the various Flash player exploits as problems with Windows, or as problems endemic to Closed Source Software.

    And you, too, have a bit of gall posting this, after some of the hugest security holes to hit the net were just released, both affecting OSS. Ideology is great until you hit the real world, and realize that things are never as simple as "I hate Microsoft, therefore Windows is technically bad", or "Closed source software has trust issues, therefore all OSS is inherently more secure". My hope is that all who take this like will grow up and abandon their zealotry before they enter the workforce.

  • by PRMan ( 959735 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @04:34PM (#47187391)
    And 8 has code that 7 doesn't have. There is a HIGH degree of likelihood that most bugs would be in the new code, the code not shared by 7, which has been well-tested for years.
  • This makes sense... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Darinbob ( 1142669 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @05:55PM (#47187669)

    No, they should not consider Windows 7 a "downlevel" release. I just bought a NEW computer with Windows 7 on it for a relative, and had to pay a premium to get W7 instead of W8. I don't need a repeat of the XP debacle! Windows 7 is the MAIN operating system from Microsoft today, Windows 8 is only a trial balloon. Since I did pay for W7 I expect FULL support for its lifetime not some half assed job designed to force people to upgrade prematurely.

    The advice from the computer repair shop my relative used this very week was to get W7 and avoid W8. This is not just some disgruntled people avoiding W8, it is very much mainstream.

  • by Murdoch5 ( 1563847 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @06:13PM (#47187731)
    Windows 7 is the only operating system I have ever used that has trouble deleting information from the Operating System. I just had to deal with being told that a file / folder didn't exist and couldn't be removed. This kind of issue, even though small, shows the lack of refinement and the false young nature of the Operating System. In contrast Linux is the adult in the Operating System war, I'm not saying that just to blow smoke or be a Linux fan boy, I'm saying that because when I run into issues in Windows, I don't run into them in Linux.
  • by binarylarry ( 1338699 ) on Saturday June 07, 2014 @07:57PM (#47188097)

    Yep but not on the Desktop. :(

    I don't see the desktop disappearing either, although its role has definitely changed.

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