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BMW, Mazda Keen To Meet With Tesla About Charging Technology 137

PC Magazine reports that following Elon Musk's announcement that Tesla would be freeing for other electric car makers to use the various patents that the company has amassed, at least two companies — Mazda and BMW — are said to be interested in meeting with Tesla, for a very good reason: According to undisclosed sources speaking to the Financial Times, both Nissan and BMW would be interested in working with Tesla to craft up some universal vehicle charging standards. To quote unnamed official: "It is obviously clear that everyone would benefit if there was a far more simple way for everyone to charge their cars."
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BMW, Mazda Keen To Meet With Tesla About Charging Technology

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  • Re:It's Nissan (Score:5, Insightful)

    by N1AK ( 864906 ) on Monday June 16, 2014 @06:43AM (#47244501) Homepage

    Because under the socialist Obama administration

    Thank god that free market, not socialist at all Germany is interested then *rolls eyes* Fuck me some of you Obama haters are retarded.

  • by L4t3r4lu5 ( 1216702 ) on Monday June 16, 2014 @06:46AM (#47244511)
    Probably confused as Nissan have their own EV, the Leaf. I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan jump on the bandwagon too and gobble up that fast-charging / battery tech ASAP; It would make the Leaf a usable compact car. Current 8 hour charge cycle and ~90 mile range on a good day is pretty limiting, especially for £25k for the base model.
  • Re:It's Nissan (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Monday June 16, 2014 @06:51AM (#47244533) Journal
    Never mind that, here in the USSA, despite the cries of "Double Taxation!" and "Highest Tax Rates Evar! Death Taxes!!!", if a decent size multinational is paying an effective tax rate higher than the guy who scrubs out their toilets at night, they probably just need to fire their accountants.
  • Re:It's Nissan (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Overzeetop ( 214511 ) on Monday June 16, 2014 @08:03AM (#47244723) Journal

    Never mind that, here in the USSA, despite the cries of "Double Taxation!" and "Highest Tax Rates Evar! Death Taxes!!!", if a decent size multinational is paying taxes, they probably just need to fire their accountants.

    FTFY

  • by Rei ( 128717 ) on Monday June 16, 2014 @09:22AM (#47245171) Homepage

    Leaf isn't designed to be a car for everyone. But it is a car that fits the usage patterns for a huge number of households, vastly more than its market penetration. For example, a large chunk of US households are multi-vehicle households, where one is used primarily as an in-town/commuting vehicle. Why, exactly, isn't a car like the Leaf appropriate for that?

    *No* car suits all needs. A vehicle that can be used to carry a load of gravel isn't going to be an ideal daily commuter. A car that's comfortable as a daily commuter might not be so comfortable on long trips with the kids. None of the above is probably great for the track. And that track car will suck off-road. And on and on. The fact that tradeoffs exist is why vehicles on the market are so widely varied. I don't get how you don't see that a vehicle like the Leaf fills a very common role in this diverse spectrum. No, it's not some universal, ideal all purpose vehicle. But there is no such thing as a universal, ideal all purpose vehicle. It, like all vehicles, is for its niche, and its niche alone. And despite how you want to portray it, it's not even that small of a niche, it's an extremely common one.

  • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Monday June 16, 2014 @10:17AM (#47245565) Homepage Journal

    The i-MIEV is made by Mitsubishi.

    Whoops. Massive brain flatulence. Just shows what posting before caffeination can do to you.

    Mazda does have an EV though, the Demio. It's only sold as a hybrid in most markets, and sometimes labeled the Mazda 2. At least it's got a rotary, so it's not lugging a heavy powerplant around.

  • by milkmage ( 795746 ) on Monday June 16, 2014 @10:33AM (#47245701)

    charge time might be the same, but Tesla owns RANGE.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T... [wikipedia.org]
    The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) official range for the Model S Performance model equipped with an 85 kWh battery pack is 265 miles (426 km)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N... [wikipedia.org]
    The US Environmental Protection Agency official range for the 2013 model year Leaf is 121 km (75 mi) and rated the Leaf's combined fuel economy at 115 miles per US gallon gasoline equivalent (2.0 L/100 km).

    yeah, a Tesla also costs 4x more than the Leaf, but if others get onboard and develop a standard... guess what - that cost goes down

    Musk is a smart guy

BLISS is ignorance.

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