Time Warner Sells Telecom Business to Level 3 38
gavron (1300111) writes "We all know about TW Cable being acquired by Comcast (subject to regulatory approval) but news from today is that their non-cable business is being purchased by Level3 for almost 6 billion dollars.
What used to be the 'largest media and distribution company ever' (AOL Time Warner) is now nothing more than a garage of pieces being parceled off to the first available bidder. This might be good for consumers, but recently Time Warner (and Comcast) won awards for consumer hatred."
What used to be the 'largest media and distribution company ever' (AOL Time Warner) is now nothing more than a garage of pieces being parceled off to the first available bidder. This might be good for consumers, but recently Time Warner (and Comcast) won awards for consumer hatred."
"Media Distribution" is now telecom? (Score:2)
I was expecting a story about them setting some obscure voip service or something. With AOL split off I'm curious these remaining properties are that something thinks qualify as a "telecom" business.
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They have to move a lot of data to those local cable providers. They need a substantial backend to do it, tons of bandwidth running between cities. That's what Level 3 (http://www.level3.com) would be interested in. Bandwidth, access points, colos / generators. That is the core of a telecom business.
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They have to move a lot of data to those local cable providers. They need a substantial backend to do it, tons of bandwidth running between cities. That's what Level 3 (http://www.level3.com) would be interested in. Bandwidth, access points, colos / generators. That is the core of a telecom business.
You're talking about a tier1 network, and as far as I know, Time Warner doesn't have one. They likely pay Level3 for that kind of service because that's what Level3 does. According to the article this is Time Warners business lines. So these are T1s, T3s, Managed services like VOIP, etc...
Re:"Media Distribution" is now telecom? (Score:4, Informative)
HeadlineFail (Score:3)
TWTelecom is independent from TimeWarner, and has been for at least 8 years. That makes for a huge consolidation in the metro fiber business.
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The original poster got TWcable and twtelecom mixed up. But they have that: http://www.twtelecom.com/ [twtelecom.com]
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The Tier concept is a silly one mis-applied by layer 3 guys to telecom. TWT owns fiber, has a large transport and IP network, and has large enterprise and wholesale accounts worth many millions of dollars per year. They aren't a pure re-seller, as you seem to believe.
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Maybe they are buying a warehouse full of old AOL dialin modems.
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You sure its Time Waner? (Score:5, Interesting)
You need to change the subject, no where does it state that Time Warner sold anything.
TW Telecom was not a part of Time Warner anymore, it was broken off years ago, the name changed from Time Warner Telecom to TW Telecom so they could keep some brand recognition, but they could no longer use the Time Warner name. The news announcement states that TW Telecom was bought by Level3, so stating that Time Warner sold its telecom business seems wrong to me. Unless maybe Time Warner still owned some of the company, since Time Warner itself no longer is part of Time Warner Cable either, they were broke apart years ago also, so that Time Warner is mostly all just media holdings, like movies and magazines.
Either way, I am pretty sure your title for the article is WRONG.
Re: You sure its Time Waner? (Score:2, Informative)
Agreed. A little application of common sense could have prevented this nothing-to-do-with-the-price-of-tea-in-China posting travesty. Does anyone really think that Time Warner Cable would be allowed to sell off a $6 billion asset in the middle of the Comcast acquisition unless it had been agreed upon up front? All of the discussed spin-offs (e.g. to Charter) are scheduled to take place after the acquisition is complete.
And Time Warner != Time Warner Cable. They are two completely separate companies.
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Yes, agreed, we are TW Telecom customers and my boss, who has been around long enough to know, reminds me every time I say "Time Warner" that "It's Not Time Warner". The name of the company is TW Telecom or TWTC. It has nothing to do with Time Warner or Time Warner Cable these days. Submitter.Insert(foot,mouth), Editor.Shame()
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Would be cool if the editors even had a basic tech subject matter understanding, that is probably asking too much from folks who can't write coherent sentences though. They're focused on breathing and now swallowing their tongues.
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" the name changed from Time Warner Telecom to TW Telecom so they could keep some brand recognition"
Well then theres no room to bitch when people think its the same brand now is there?
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Not much, its a wholesale/transit/large enterprise carrier buying a smaller wholesale/transit/large enterprise carrier. Both of these guys are going to come down on the side of being pro-neutral, because they don't have residential customers to exploit.
Why the poor ratings? (Score:1)
Fact Check (Score:2)
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"The editing process can involve correction, condensation, organization, and many other modifications performed with an intention of producing a correct, consistent, accurate and complete work."
I've not got access to the contract terms or job descriptions at
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Editing [wikipedia.org] "The editing process can involve ... work."
Edited to show what the /. eds avoid.
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Editing [wikipedia.org] "The editing process can involve correction, condensation, organization, and many other modifications performed with an intention of producing a correct, consistent, accurate and complete work." I've not got access to the contract terms or job descriptions at /. HQ, but I'm pretty sure at least one of those words will be included in the details for an "Editor" position.
News Editors haven't been doing that for a long time. Just look at the farse news on ABC, CBS, NYTimes, NBC, and all the other big media outlets.
Free market always wins (Score:2, Insightful)
Good riddance, I say.
Friedman, Hayek, and Mises were right all along!!
TW Telecom is not part of Time Warner (Score:5, Interesting)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TW_Telecom
http://www.twtelecom.com/about-us/history/
well of course (Score:2)
This might be good for consumers, but recently Time Warner (and Comcast) won awards for consumer hatred."
and thus...the sell-off-slash-rebranding.
that's all this is, of course...when a brand as big as Time-Warner start being reviled by its customers, it's simply "time" to hit the ctrl-alt-delete and reboot things.
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Hopefully some sleepy-headed slashdot editor will pick her head up off the table long enough
NOT THE SAME COMPANY (Score:1)
Do a little checking -- TW Telecom (TWTC) is a completely separate, publicly traded company from Time Warner Cable (TWC) which is a completely separate (though historically linked) company from Time Warner Inc. (TWX).
Read "The Billionaire Shell Game"... (Score:1)
I had the (dis)fortune to observe firsthand how some of these cable giants played the game in late 1999/early 2000, and wished
tw telecom is NOT RELATED to Time Warner! (Score:1)
Wow people, do a little fact checking once in a while.