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After Weeks of Delay, SpaceX Falcon Launches Communications Satellite Payload 32

After several weeks of delay, SpaceX has successfully launched from Cape Canaveral AsiaSat's communications satellite, AsiaSat 6. This launch was originally intended to occur on August 27. However, due to a failure of an experimental SpaceX rocket during a test flight, the launch was delayed. The experimental rocket apparently malfunctioned because of a sensor error. The company stated that the same error wasn’t likely to occur in its regular Falcon 9 rocket, but wanted to "triple-check" its systems to be certain. SpaceFlightInsider has a play-by-play on the launch process and more details on the communications satellites aboard. They note: [This] marked the fifth flight of the Falcon 9 in 2014. Since the company began using the booster, it had only been able to carry out about two launches annually of the rocket – until now. With the United States Air Force considering the rocket for use under the lucrative Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle (EELV) program and NASA already utilizing it to deliver cargo (and potentially crew) to the International Space Station, the rocket has become a popular player in terms of launch services. The next mission that SpaceX should use the propulsive descent landing system on, is the launch of one of the firm’s Dragon spacecraft carrying out NASA’s Commercial Resupply Services 4 (SpX-4) mission – currently scheduled to take place on Sept. 19.
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After Weeks of Delay, SpaceX Falcon Launches Communications Satellite Payload

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  • by bmajik ( 96670 ) <matt@mattevans.org> on Sunday September 07, 2014 @08:47AM (#47845649) Homepage Journal

    bmajik launches a first post.

    According to the mission profile, due to moderation, his positive karma will burn up during re-entry.

    More seriously, I'm glad Space X is apparently doing things right. More successful launches... not just more launch attempts. The eyes are on them and lots of vested interests are looking to pounce and capitalize once they make a serious mistake.

  • Hooray for Space-X (Score:4, Insightful)

    by phayes ( 202222 ) on Sunday September 07, 2014 @08:53AM (#47845679) Homepage

    Pushing the limits till they find them during testing, ensuring that their commercial vehicles don't suffer from any of the bugs discovered & then launching flawlessly.

    You guys inspire me.

    • SpaceX isn't even after money. Their objective is space.

      They only want money because they don't want to run out of it.

      • by dpilot ( 134227 ) on Sunday September 07, 2014 @11:48AM (#47846649) Homepage Journal

        The rigtht way to do capitalism, as opposed to the way it's generally practiced in the US, with the cart in front of the horse.

        • by 0123456 ( 636235 ) on Sunday September 07, 2014 @12:14PM (#47846809)

          The rigtht way to do capitalism, as opposed to the way it's generally practiced in the US, with the cart in front of the horse.

          That's 'cause Musk isn't an MBA.

          Some days, I honestly think the MBA must have been a Soviet plot to destroy the West.

          • by catchblue22 ( 1004569 ) on Sunday September 07, 2014 @05:31PM (#47848679) Homepage

            Some days, I honestly think the MBA must have been a Soviet plot to destroy the West.

            Amen. I have been thinking something like that for years. MBA programs are like pernicious cults. So many failures and yet MBA's just keep on hiring clones of themselves.

            The idea that a company can be run by someone who knows nothing about what the company does is a prime example of MBA delusion. I know of a food manufacturing plant who hired an MBA whose previous experience was in running a train assembly plant. All he could do was to sit upstairs and stair at graphs. Meanwhile the plant function decayed and profitability disappeared. The person he replaced had started his career from the plant floor, and had run the plant profitably for many years. Bring in an MBA and within two years, the damage was done. He was fired.

            The other obvious examples: Apple - started by Steve Jobs (not an MBA). Makes Schully (an MBA) CEO. Almost goes bankrupt. Rehires Steve Jobs and becomes one of the world's most successful companies.

            Space X, Solar City, Tesla, Paypal started by Elon Musk (not an MBA). All four are remarkably successful and disruptive businesses.

            The lesson: People who actually understand the nuts and bolts of the businesses they run make far better leaders than those who don't have a clue what their businesses do. Surprise, surprise.

          • by dpilot ( 134227 )

            I'm really surprised to find general agreement with my post. I hit the Submit button expect rather shortly to be "schooled" on my naive and stupid economic thoughts.

        • If only more billionaires would help humanity instead of sit on their money and have passing contests lol.
          The fact that if he keeps it up he might beat them all while bringing humanity and space closer is just a plus. Do they really think they will out live their billions?
        • "The rigtht way to do capitalism,"

          Privatize the profits, socialize the risk. What's not to like?

          • by dpilot ( 134227 )

            SpaceX did the development themselves, from what I understand. They're now doing fixed-cost government contracts, unlike the rest of the space industry in the U.S.

            My beef is with the way it seems that most US companies are there to make money, and see their products as a way to do so. I'd rather see them be there to build their products, and see money as a way to keep making those products.

            For the car analogy, assuming support for both ways would properly continue, would you rather by a car built by a car

            • "SpaceX did the development themselves"

              SpaceX has 56 years of NASA basic research and a pool of trained employees from NASA, the military, and contractors that worked on NASA an military projects to draw from.

              • by dpilot ( 134227 )

                Of course, but that's "sunk cost" in a manner of speaking, available under no better terms to SpaceX than to any other US-based company.

                However given that basis, typical contract projects are then paid for by the government, on top of "historical knowledge." SpaceX used the historical knowledge, as others do, but then paid for their additional development themselves.

      • SpaceX is after money. Its just not only after money !
        Anyhow, 7 launches of F9R, and launch cadence of a launch per month demonstrated twice in a row... And the next launch should be this September too.
        Critics of SpaceX are running out of criticisms !

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Maybe my math is off, but in my book 11 days does not make "weeks". Attention-grabbing headline?

    • by rossdee ( 243626 )

      "Maybe my math is off, but in my book 11 days does not make "weeks""

      A week is 7 days. 11 days is about 1.57 weeks

      More than one is plural.

      • by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 ) on Sunday September 07, 2014 @12:09PM (#47846779)

        "Maybe my math is off, but in my book 11 days does not make "weeks""

        A week is 7 days. 11 days is about 1.57 weeks

        More than one is plural.

        Considering that your 1.57 "weeks" is indeed "weeks".

        It therefore follows that there delay of 11 days translates out to centuries - 0.00030117 centuries

        It's also 3.01170019 × 10-5 millenia. What the hell is the holdup?

        • by phayes ( 202222 )

          You can't expect any accuracy/truthfulness, look at the byline! The story was posted/edited by Timothy. Just be thankful it want's yet another of his warmed over national enquirer retreads.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Triple-check

    Really? We know SpaceX is a bunch of rocket scientists, it is rocket science.... verify sounds like a more calming/assuring word.

    Next thing you know they'll be saying, the rocket's done done.

    • by khallow ( 566160 )
      As long as webapps are designed like things are designed, built like things that are built, and operated like things that are operated, you'll have this reciprocal problem of things that are designed, built, and operated like webapps.
  • Several weeks of delay != 11 days. At best you can call it a couple of weeks, but that's still pushing the definition.of couple.

    Go SpaceX, beat the bastards.

  • by Areyoukiddingme ( 1289470 ) on Sunday September 07, 2014 @02:13PM (#47847589)

    Ariane 1 - second and fifth launches failed
    Ariane 2 - only 6 launches, first failed
    Ariane 3 - fifth launch failed
    Ariane 4 - eighth launch failed
    Ariane 5 - first launch failed, two partial failures in first 11
    Atlas A - only 8 launches, 5 failed
    Atlas B - only 10 launches, 3 failed
    Atlas C - only 6 launches, 2 failed
    Delta - first launch failed
    Delta II - first twelve successful, partial failure on the 42nd launch which substantially reduced the satellites operational lifespan (55th was first total failure)
    Falcon 1 - only five launches, first three failed
    Falcon 9 - first twelve launches successful, although a secondary payload on the fourth launch was aborted as a precaution
    Long March 1 - only 2 launches, both successful
    Long March 2 - first launch failed
    Long March 3 - no complete failures in first 11, but 1 and 8 were partial failures
    N-1 - only four launches, all failed horribly
    Proton - third launch failed
    Proton-K - second, third, fourth and sixth launches failed
    Proton-M - eleventh launch failed
    Saturn I - only ten launches, all successful
    Saturn IB - only nine launches, all successful (unless you count Apollo 1 - it didn't launch but still killed three astronauts)
    Saturn V - second launch (Apollo 6) failed, Apollo 13 doesn't count because it was a payload, not launcher, failure
    Soyuz - third launch failed, with fatalities
    Soyuz-U - seventh launch failed
    Soyuz-FG - first twelve launches successful (all 46 to date completely successful, including lots and lots of astronauts delivered to ISS)
    Space Shuttle - first twelve successful (19th was first partial failure (ATO), 25th was first full failure)
    Titan I - fifth, sixth, eighth, ninth and tenth launches failed
    Titan II - ninth and eleventh launches failed
    Titan III - first and sixth launches failed
    Titan IV - seventh launch failed
    Zenit-2 - first and second launches failed

    Falcon 9 will remain one of four until it beats (or fails to beat) Shuttle's record, probably sometime in 2016. Then it's likely to take many years to beat Delta II (which had a three decade head start). It may only beat Soyuz-FG if the Russians foul up, since they're still being launched quite regularly.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Please remember that a launch vehicle is a separate thing from the payload.

      The American moon program used Saturn launch vehicles to launch Apollo spacecraft, the Gemini program used Gemini spacecraft launched on Titan II launch vehicles, and so-on. As such, the Apollo 1 fire was a spacecraft failure but had nothing to do with the launch vehicle. The space shuttle is unique in violating this rule; the spacecraft carried the engines and computers of the launch vehicle (an experiment in re-usability intended t

    • by Granular ( 244934 ) on Sunday September 07, 2014 @09:40PM (#47849739)

      Apollo 13 should count, but not for what most people know about.

      The second stage center engine shut down early due to a thrust chamber sensor reading low pressure. While this did not impact the orbital insertion (the remaining 4 engines fired for an additional 4 minutes to make up for it), the sensor reading that shutdown the engine may have been in error, and is still not understood. However, if this shutdown had not occurred, the vehicle would likely have been lost in just moments after when the shutdown occurred. The center engine was experiencing severe pogo osculations, resulting in the engine flexing the thrust frame up and down by 3 inches, 16 times each second—this motion would have resulted in disintegration of the rocket in short order. The thrust chamber sensor should have been unaffected by the pogo, so that is unlikely to be the cause of the reading that led to the shutdown. So it is possible that while one failure during launch almost destroyed Apollo 13, a second failure actually (temporarily at least) saved the mission.

      See this article [universetoday.com] for more information.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    it's a further reminder that NONE of the vendors of small- or medium-sized rockets have EVER demonstarted a capability of a high flight that would be required for manned exploration missions which the advocates of using such small rockets for exploration always insist is an alternative to giant rockets. To Replace the SLS NASA is building (or the super-heavy Musk os talking about building) with EELVs or Falcon9s etc would require launching half a dozen within days of eachother and bringing all the lofted ca

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