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Mercedes-Benz's Self-Driving Concept Car Is Here 167

cartechboy writes: Mercedes-Benz has finally taken the wraps off its autonomous concept car, dubbed the F015 Luxury in Motion Concept. Shown at the 2015 Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas last night, the concept is a self-driving, fully-connected, hydrogen-electric plug-in hybrid that touts a vision of driving in the future. Mercedes says this concept is not only a means for getting someone from one point to another, but also a usable space for entertainment or work as well as a platform for communication and interaction. The hydrogen-electric plug-in hybrid system is unique in that it produces zero emissions at all times. It consists of a hydrogen fuel cell stack, a lithium-ion battery, and two electric motors. The F015 has a driving range of 124 miles with a fully charged battery, and up to 684 miles with a full tank of hydrogen. While not intended for production, Mercedes shows us that it has the technology today to produce a zero-emission vehicle that can drive itself. In related news, Audi has just shown off an A7 that drove itself 550 miles from San Francisco to Las Vegas for CES.
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  • that's the kind of responsibility i want.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      None of today's self-driving car is ready for production and will NOT be until we make real AI. Too many variables for that kind of system, pattern recognition and prediction systems that is unreachable for current algorithms and electronics. Maybe in 30 years from now.
      • by Scottingham ( 2036128 ) on Tuesday January 06, 2015 @03:43PM (#48749121)

        Man will you be surprised in 3-5 years.

        Just look at voice recognition's progress within the last two years alone. It had reached a plateau of about 80% accuracy, even when speaking slowly, clearly, and without regional accent. Now? I can mutter drunkenly and it'll get it more often than not. I can say very local business words like Phydeaux (upscale pet store) and get the spelling right!

        It's called machine learning. The more experience/scenarios etc these self driving cars get, the better they'll be.

        I'd say I'm as confident as you (but in the opposite direction) that within 10 years computers will out-drive humans in all scenarios. It won't even be close. 360 degree sub-millisecond informational input versus our meatbag eyes and reflexes??

        • by 0123456 ( 636235 ) on Tuesday January 06, 2015 @03:46PM (#48749161)

          Meanwhile, back in the real world, my car can't even figure out when I say 'redial', and gets about four of of ten numbers wrong when I try to dial a number directly.

          • "Meanwhile, back in the real world, my car can't even figure out when I say 'redial', and gets about four of of ten numbers wrong when I try to dial a number directly."

            That's because it's not a Benz.

          • That's unfortunate that you bought a crappy car. My voice recognition works great.

          • Phones are in the real world too, so I guess you bought a shitty car...? I'm afraid I don't get your point.
        • What are you comparing ? You seen how hard was it to crack captcha only ? for VISUAL recognition ? Because VISUAL not sound is important here. Sound is EASY like 1 million times easier. You don't know what you are talking about, trust me, we are not even near the real solution. You have so many different shapes in real world, colors, different motions that human can understand and predict next but algorithms just can't, don't be naive. Without real AI forget about that cars on streets.
          • by RingDev ( 879105 ) on Tuesday January 06, 2015 @05:03PM (#48749903) Homepage Journal

            I disagree with your assertion, and it just so happens that I have a software development background that includes voice recognition, visual interpretation, and vehicle communication systems.

            Voice recognition is a really cool subject. There are a finite (and surprisingly small) number of sounds that make up the English language. But for each of those sounds there are nearly an infinite number of dialects. This is combated by looking at the context of each individual sound to find known sound patterns. This can still result in thousands of different words, so we look at the context of the sentence. And through out this effort you have to deal with people talking quickly/slowly, while emotional or out of breath, with a southern drawl or a New York accent, or ESL folks that may say put words in an order that makes the context obvious. Heck, we did it for early onset dementia patients. The amount of work it took to dial in the VRE even when we knew the specific user and their inflection/dialect was massive.

            When it comes to visual recognition, the AI for a car doesn't need to understand what a dog is, it just has to recognize that there is an IR source on the current trajectory. The AI doesn't need to comprehend what a boulder is, it just needs to recognize that there is an obstruction in the road.

            The AI doesn't need to be able to identify that there is a lady wearing a yellow spotted sun dress doing interpretive dance while high on mescaline in the middle of the road, it just needs to identify that there is something in the road and respond accordingly (slow down, swerve, stop, etc...)

            The exact same thing is true for humans. For example: the other day I was driving my wife's car. I was pulling out from the gas station and something caught my eye after I thought traffic was clear. So I slammed on the brakes thinking I missed something. Turns out it was a reflection of a dash light on the side window.

            Yeah, there will be false positives. A vehicle may decide that a pothole is actually an obstruction, or that the railroad track is the end of a road. But in the vast majority of cases these are targets that the vehicle can identify from a significant distance away. It's not like you're going to be driving on the open road then come screeching to a halt for no reason.

            And each of these false positives is something that will be handled through refining the AI system. Through IR, RADAR, real-time 3-d surface mapping, V2I communications, V2V communications, etc...

            It's coming, and quickly. And many municipalities and states are looking to leverage the V2I systems. If you have a V2I enabled vehicle in Las Vegas, you can actually get the system to tell you how fast you should drive to avoid hitting red lights. Most major metros already have systems in place picking up tire pressure and blue tooth signals to determine traffic volume and speed, which is how those fancy "12 minutes to exit 123" signs get populated.

            As the 2017 cars start rolling out and more data becomes available, we'll see technology leaping ahead. For example, in Wisconsin, our 511 site has a public facing developer API, so even if the state can't invest in some cool new apps and vehicle information systems, individual developers and manufacturers can: http://www.511wi.gov/Web/extra... [511wi.gov]

            -Rick

            • by RyoShin ( 610051 )

              A vehicle may decide that a pothole is actually an obstruction, or that the railroad track is the end of a road.

              Very nice post. This particular line made a question pop into my head: Do we have any human-driven cars that have a companion AI "driving" a virtual car, where the AI is doing risk aversion and noting where the human differs from the AI for later review and/or machine learning?

              Using your example, the vehicle "sees" a railroad track but, because of the sudden shift in terrain, thinks it's an end of

              • by RingDev ( 879105 )

                I'm not aware of anything like that currently, but I'm on the other side of the equation at the moment. I work for a state DOT, so I'm seeing things primarily from the V2I perspective.

                I know that years ago Cadillac had an infrared detection and HUD alert system, but I don't believe it did any analysis of it.

                I would be surprised if the major autonomous vehicle players aren't looking at machine learning though. Someone had previously mentioned a vehicle with collision avoidance that would force a vehicle to s

          • Actually, both sound and light are identical in complexity, both are waves. Interpreting sound is no more "easy" than any other wave of information. Imagine trying to teach a machine to listen to you on a sidewalk with semi trucks and people talking and yelling for cabs. The fact that the human ear can distinguish between a cacophony of sounds and decipher what one person is saying is remarkable. With that said, we do not have a machine that can listen accurately on a street corner so even though sound
        • Re: (Score:2, Offtopic)

          by Toshito ( 452851 )

          Voice recognition is a joke. 9 times out of 10 my gf's android phone is way off and can't recognize half the words.

          And yesterday I tried Youtube's automatic close captionning, on a video with a guy speaking correct american english, in a very quiet room, and it was really funny, as ALL sentences where complete and utter garbage.

        • I'd also say, that as more of these cars are on the road, they'll create more accurate represenations of those roads to navigate by, and changes in conditions would require attention will be diminished. The reality is that scaling does matter. More cars = More data = Better decisions = better experience.

          I can easily imagine, GoogleCar/Lyft changing how we commute. Imagine autonomous busses.

        • by mjwx ( 966435 )

          Man will you be surprised in 3-5 years.

          By surprised you mean, wont see any autonomous cars then yes, yes I'll be surprised.

          Just look at voice recognition's progress within the last two years alone.

          Actually it hasn't really made any. it's just received a lot of marketing in the last two years. Realistically voice recognition isn't any better than it was back when Google Voice Search was released 4 years ago. It still struggles with accents, it completely fails with slang or mispronounced words, accuracy su

      • by RingDev ( 879105 )

        Time is moving faster than you expect. The model year 2017 vehicles in the US are all required to have a V2V communications systems in place when they roll of the line. Most of the V2V interfaces also support V2I communications.

        We will be seeing some radical advances in automation, crash avoidance, and information services to motor vehicles in the next 10 years.

        And the autonomous vehicle with self-drive functionality doesn't need to understand 100% of all possible traffic/infrastructure interactions. As soo

      • We don't need real AI. We need good-enough-to-be-safe AI, with human intervention available when the AI calls for it.

      • by mbone ( 558574 )

        It's a concept car. Concept cars never are almost never turned into a product, they are intended to generate press and publicity, which this one is succeeding in doing.

      • by gl4ss ( 559668 )

        a car doesn't really need a real AI.

        a real AI is so much more different concept than something that logically drives a car perfectly in all possible situations. it just needs to drive a car, it doesn't need to be able to come up with the concept of what a car is on it's own.

        that kind of says how far we are from the hipster shit singularity in reality.

    • It's like bug spray for bureaucrats.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Do these tests cover use cases such as encountering a flash flooded road where what used to be a road is now a river? Driving on ice? Etc.

    • by Qzukk ( 229616 )

      Did your driving test cover that?

      • by TWX ( 665546 )
        My driving test did not cover that, but my Cub Scout training as a young child sure did, at least as far as the flooded road/river part is concerned.
      • Icy roads? Yeah, when I was 16 I took my driving test in Denver Colorado, in December. So several feet of snow on each side of the road and plenty of ice around. Come to think of it, that was kind of dumb.

    • That's why there's still controls to drive it non autonomously.
      • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Tuesday January 06, 2015 @03:40PM (#48749089) Homepage

        That's why there's still controls to drive it non autonomously.

        And if that is the response, that is why autonomous cars will NEVER work on public roads.

        Either the car drives itself 100% of the time, or I drive it 100% of the time.

        If someone thinks that you're going to be driving along in your car not paying attention to the road, and suddenly the computer is doing to say "fuck it, I don't know, you do it" they're complete morons.

        Human reaction time will not allow a driver who is disengaged to suddenly be in control of the car.

        There is no "sometimes the computer drives and sometimes you do", unless it's a complete transition. But when the computer is driving, I should be able to climb in the back and sleep, or read the paper.

        Otherwise the entire system is doomed to fail, because it simply won't work in the real world.

        I see zero value in an "autonomous" car which is periodically going to decide it isn't responsible. And I'm sure neither Benz nor Google plan on indemnifying you from legal responsibility.

        In which case this will always simply be a toy.

        • The horseless carriage was a novelty at first. I mean, who wants to ride in a machine that has no mind of its own? Something that can't even avoid minor obstacles on its own?

          • by 0123456 ( 636235 )

            The horseless carriage was a novelty at first. I mean, who wants to ride in a machine that has no mind of its own? Something that can't even avoid minor obstacles on its own?

            Your analogy is silly, unless it was a 'horseless' carriage that required you to pull a horse behind it just in case it refused to drive anywhere under its own steam.

        • by vux984 ( 928602 )

          There is no "sometimes the computer drives and sometimes you do", unless it's a complete transition. But when the computer is driving, I should be able to climb in the back and sleep, or read the paper.

          Agreed. This has to be the case. All the real value use cases for autonomous requires 100% autonomy and liability on the car.

          From drop me off downtown and then go find a place a park on its own (empty) and then come pick me up when I call it; to dropping the kids off a school (no adult), and return home (empt

          • by 0123456 ( 636235 )

            Because if a driver is expected to sit in the driver seat, hands on the wheel, ready to take control, but not actually in control the entire time, then there is no reason to have an autonomous car.

            That's not entirely true. Hands-free cruise control, for example, could be useful even if you have to keep an eye on the road to check nothing disastrous is about to happen.

            But, yeah, in a city, forget it. When my 'driverless car' starts sliding sideways on ice, I don't want it to suddenly tell me to take over and then blame 'human error' when I crash.

            • But, yeah, in a city, forget it. When my 'driverless car' starts sliding sideways on ice, I don't want it to suddenly tell me to take over and then blame 'human error' when I crash.

              I have the feeling that the standard would be 'I can't handle this, pull over to a safe stop; if you want to continue before conditions improve you do it' rather than just abruptly handing control over to you.

              Indeed, it's my understanding that the collision avoidance detectors in many of these new vehicles are always on. So if you fall asleep or whatever it'll hit the brakes before you ram into something.

        • by PRMan ( 959735 )

          Stop being so extreme... I already have a car that will not automatically stop without hitting the car in front of me. Yes, in rare cases (extreme stop or someone cutting me off so close the car doesn't see it), I have to respond. But unless I see one of those two scenarios, I just cruise home while chatting hands-free with my wife. And it's wonderful.

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            • by 0123456 ( 636235 )

              Yeah, when we bought a new car last year, we were laughing at all the models that now come with 'lane assist' based on tracking the lane markings, because you can't see the lane markings on our roads for about nine months a year...

              But, hey, I'm sure a 'driverless car' that's been tested on a highway in California will handle it just fine.

          • by mjwx ( 966435 )

            Stop being so extreme... I already have a car that will not automatically stop without hitting the car in front of me. Yes, in rare cases (extreme stop or someone cutting me off so close the car doesn't see it), I have to respond. But unless I see one of those two scenarios, I just cruise home while chatting hands-free with my wife. And it's wonderful.

            And this is what the driver of the Ford Kuga (which has Automatic Emergency Braking) thought before she rammed into the back of my stationary Honda Integra.

            A perfectly good sports car written off by some moron on the phone who thought technology would magically save her from harm.

            Also there are more than two scenarios that require you to brake, almost all of them not programmed into AEB.

            Autonomous cars are better at driving than you not because they're good but because you're such a terrible driver

        • by bondsbw ( 888959 )

          I disagree. It doesn't have to be a "sudden" transition... the transition can be in planned scenarios (like transitioning from freeway to non-freeway driving). The car could also pull to the side of the road when weather conditions become too adverse.

          "Driver must be prepared to take control at any time" is a reasonable disclaimer for early self-driving cars, and may even become the law in many states.

          Just because you won't buy such a car doesn't mean there are not plenty of people who would.

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        • by TBoon ( 1381891 )

          And if that is the response, that is why autonomous cars will NEVER work on public roads.

          Either the car drives itself 100% of the time, or I drive it 100% of the time.

          I would love a car capable on cruising along pre-approved rural interstates, but handing over control to me for city driving. Set your destination to a city 7 hours away, and watch a movie, read a book, or maybe even take a nap, while the car keep a more vigilante "eye" on driving than a human possibly can for any extended period of time.

          Of course it should be 100% capable of driving itself when in charge, and not suddenly hand over to a human. When it needs refueling, or if the weather deteriorates it nee

        • >If someone thinks that you're going to be driving along in your car not paying attention to the road, and suddenly the computer is doing to say "fuck it, I don't know, you do it" they're complete morons. It sounds silly but that's exactly how autopilot and fly by wire systems work in Airbus and Boeing aircraft and they have hundreds of passengers at a time.
          • It sounds silly but that's exactly how autopilot and fly by wire systems work in Airbus and Boeing aircraft and they have hundreds of passengers at a time.

            Actually, modern aircraft have collision avoidance systems. While Boeing planes tend to default to 'trust the pilot', Airbus's planes will act to avoid collision no matter what the pilot does.

        • That's why there's still controls to drive it non autonomously.

          And if that is the response, that is why autonomous cars will NEVER work on public roads.

          Either the car drives itself 100% of the time, or I drive it 100% of the time.

          If someone thinks that you're going to be driving along in your car not paying attention to the road, and suddenly the computer is doing to say "fuck it, I don't know, you do it" they're complete morons.

          It sounds silly but that's exactly how autopilot and fly by wire systems work in Airbus and Boeing aircraft and they have hundreds of passengers at a time.

          • by 0123456 ( 636235 )

            It sounds silly but that's exactly how autopilot and fly by wire systems work in Airbus and Boeing aircraft and they have hundreds of passengers at a time.

            And pilots, with far more training and much more time available to determine what's happening and correct it... fly a perfectly good aircraft into the sea.

            Autopilots have proven again and again that 'just dump the problem in the human's lap when the computer doesn't know what to do' is disastrous.

            • Just because it's been proven to be disastrous doesn't mean that it won't be the precedent that makes it okay in automobiles. I mean don't assume legislators will always make the most sane decisions.
        • ...or how about the car works all by itself on major roads and highways. On crappy side roads that aren't properly documented in the GPS maps, let alone suitably paved, lit or maintained, it says "I'm sorry, I can't drive down this road, but you can". A solution like this would mean 80% of all journeys would be 100% autonomous and it would mean the vast majority of accidents would be avoided, as considerably few accidents happen on shitty side roads than they do on the major ones.

          I doubt anyone would accept

    • Don't forget the all important jet engine test. (you won't get that if you're not a Far Side fan)

  • Said it first!

  • The majority of hydrogen is produced from fossil fuels by steam reforming or partial oxidation of methane and coal gasification. Not exactly zero-emissions technology.
    • by bmajik ( 96670 )

      The majority of electricity is produced by doing something that wrecks the planet somehow, according to somebody.

      The point is that electricity is an interesting way to power a car because we can think of more ways of making electricity - both now and in the future - than we can of making gasoline.

      The same is true of hydrogen. For instance, you can make hydrogen via electrolysis. If you are somewhere with abundant, cheap, clean electricity - like Iceland - then dumping off-peak electricity into electrolosy

    • by TWX ( 665546 )
      That's not the only place that Hydrogen can come from though. There have been ways to crack Hydrogen from water using non-electric solar tech. If the production of Hydrogen from byproducts of fossil-fuel refiining for other purposes means less waste or allows for use of a technology as a migrating tech, good.
      • That's not the only place that Hydrogen can come from though. There have been ways to crack Hydrogen from water using non-electric solar tech.

        I hope you're planning to precede them with a distiller, because if you're putting anything other than clean water into that system, you're going to both be creating wastes and destroying electrodes, creating more waste. Now how much does your system cost to maintain? It's already spectacularly inefficient.

    • The majority of hydrogen is produced from fossil fuels by steam reforming or partial oxidation of methane and coal gasification. Not exactly zero-emissions technology.

      Hydrogen is mostly made from natural gas, with is cheap, plentiful (at least in North America), and domestically produced. The NG->H2->Fuel-Cell process is way more efficient than a gasoline ICE.

    • But it is emissions in someone else's backyard, so it doesn't count...
  • They should have had David Hasselhoff as the driver.

  • Who cares about engineering, right?
  • Now I shall a rear bumper with an LED display to tell other drivers what to do! Now excuse me while I execute 1000 consecutive lane changes in rush hour traffic -- I've got important places to be
    • Now I shall a rear bumper

      You accidentally the whole thing

      with an LED display to tell other drivers what to do! Now excuse me while I execute 1000 consecutive lane changes in rush hour traffic -- I've got important places to be

      There's no room to make 1000 lane changes if people are paying attention. Which self-driving cars will do, unlike the typical jerkoffs driving about.

  • by gurps_npc ( 621217 ) on Tuesday January 06, 2015 @03:46PM (#48749163) Homepage
    Concepts cars are worthless, most never get made.

    You want to convince me you are SERIOUS about getting into the driverless car? Then build a Concept Bus - or Concept Garbage Truck.

    Those are large vehicles that honestly do not need drivers. They are expect to drive slow, not fast and usually travel set routes. Small cities can easily afford to self-insure them, and they won't have to worry quite so much about the stupid technology ignorant laws, as they will be purchased by the people that enforce, if not write the laws. Finally they are already expensive and the cities pay large salaries to people to drive them.

    They will in all probability be the very first driverless vehicles we actually see on the road [as soon as we 1) convince the unions to let us and 2) actually get them to work.]

    So forget about concept 'cars' and show me a concept bus or concept garbage truck.

    • by Toshito ( 452851 )

      I don't know where you live but here in Canada garbage trucks are run by private companies, the contract being awarded by the city to the lowest bidder.

      So good luck having those private companies invest in anything else than trucks that are crapped out and barely legal on the road, and the lowest wage they can give to any driver which has a driving permit.

      • by gurps_npc ( 621217 ) on Tuesday January 06, 2015 @04:49PM (#48749781) Homepage
        I live in New York City. The city of New York owns over 2,000 collection trucks, not to mention street sweepers, salt spreaders, front end loaders, and support vehicles. Yes, we subcontract out some of the work, but a large mega city like NYC owns and operates it's own trucks. Also, last september, Chicago owns 600 trucks. Both of us are unionized.

        But in fact, a private company is a lot EAISER to convince to buy such a device, because they are more focused on the bottom line, rather than appealing to Local 831, USA of the Teamsters (a worthy organization, but they have to put their own interests above those of the city - that's what their members pay them to do.)

        A new Garbage Truck can easily cast $500,000. They are large and expensive devices and they typically make over $40,000 a year. For a system that costs $30,000, a small company would easily come out ahead after just one year. If it costs $100k, it takes 3 years.

        (Note, you still need employees to LOAD the garbage, you just need 2 men per truck as opposed to 3).

        • by colesw ( 951825 )
          Really, 3 people per truck? I remember in the 90's seeing 2 people per truck here in Ottawa. The last time I remember seeing a garbage truck it only had 1 person, he would drive on the right hand side, and hop down to throw the garbage in, then hop back in.
          • More than 1 person? The driver gets out of the truck? I haven't seen that here in 20 years! Here the truck drives along the street, has a big mechanical arm that reaches out, grabs the bin and empties it into the truck.

            As I said it has been like that for at least 20 years.

        • by mjwx ( 966435 )

          (Note, you still need employees to LOAD the garbage, you just need 2 men per truck as opposed to 3).

          The loading of garbage onto trucks was something Australia automated well over a decade ago.

          In fact, seeing a person lifting a garbage bin into a truck is a rare sight, so rare that when I went overseas to Thailand last week, I was surprised to see actual garbagemen.

        • (Note, you still need employees to LOAD the garbage, you just need 2 men per truck as opposed to 3).

          All the trucks in my area are automated, meaning there's a hydraulic arm that picks up the cans and dumps them. They're slower and more expensive than non-automated trucks, but require only a single operator (the driver). I have a brother-in-law who drives such a truck and in discussions with him I've become skeptical that they'll replace the driver in such trucks any time soon, because he encounters enough bizarre situations on a regular basis that having a human on board is essential.

          In situations where

    • Komatsu Autonomous Haulage System: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

      The problem is that for the foreseeable future driverless cars will still require human occupants at all times. Otherwise it would be pretty easy to screw with them, from a simple "denial of service" attack where you pen it in with traffic cones for lulz to hijacking driveless long haul goods vehicles. Sometimes the computer just can't figure out what to do and needs help.

      Basically, if something goes wrong a human needs to step in, often immediately. Eventually this may change, but notice how even this conc

    • by RyoShin ( 610051 )

      Plus, with buses, they can make smaller buses that have more routes and can also respond to demand to better stick to schedules. (If 13 people "check in" at Bus Stop B but no one at Bus Stop A, then the bus can take a shortcut that avoids A and goes to B sooner, to better handle the larger amount of people waiting to get on.)

      1) convince the unions to let us

      Even if the tech is viewed as very mature by every automotive professional, Average Joe will still view it with heavy skepticism. Having a human who coul

    • Concepts cars are worthless, most never get made.

      You want to convince me you are SERIOUS about getting into the driverless car? Then build a Concept Bus - or Concept Garbage Truck.

      Those are large vehicles that honestly do not need drivers. They are expect to drive slow, not fast and usually travel set routes. Small cities can easily afford to self-insure them, and they won't have to worry quite so much about the stupid technology ignorant laws, as they will be purchased by the people that enforce, if not write the laws. Finally they are already expensive and the cities pay large salaries to people to drive them.

      They will in all probability be the very first driverless vehicles we actually see on the road [as soon as we 1) convince the unions to let us and 2) actually get them to work.]

      So forget about concept 'cars' and show me a concept bus or concept garbage truck.

      Regarding unions. Their raison-d'être is job creation, protection, and union dues. The problem that many municipalities have is union agreements and idiotic outdated rules. For example of such a rule is , "a driver drives, and does not get out of the truck to pick up or deliver". Another example, "The electrician is responsible for the breakers. We had a swimming pool front door attendant plug in a kettle from home, and with it and the other electrical stuff on the circuit, caused the breaker to

  • by quax ( 19371 ) on Tuesday January 06, 2015 @04:11PM (#48749419)

    That was in 1997 when I worked at what later became the KIT [wikipedia.org].

    Back then they tested an early artificial neural net controller under real life conditions on the Autobahn A8. The driver just sat with his arms folded behind the wheel.

    This technology has been a long time coming and still lawmakers haven't caught on to it.

    • And before your KIT, there was the KITT. It even had a voice synthesiser that sounded just like that guy from St Elsewhere. I'm still waiting for Trans-Am to release that model.

      • by quax ( 19371 )

        KITT, not invented in Germany but certainly embraced like nowhere else by an entire generation of German pre-teen boys.

        Probably lead directly to this prototype.

  • Mercedes-Benz's Self-Driving Concept Car Is Here

    When are concept cars every really "here," in any practical sense of the term?

  • NOBODY wants a self driving car!

  • To address the two common themes I see here:

    (1) Make no mistake, semi-autonomous cars are useless, but meaningful collision avoidance systems are useful and that's the first stepping stone in the process

    (2) Autonomous cars are still decades away from any sort of real adoption and automobile manufacturers should (I suspect they are...) develop them in the context of a shared usage vehicle given their much higher utilization than a regular car (an autonomous car could be in use 100% of the time as oppose

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