Cluetrain Authors Offer an Updated Guide To the Web 24
Esther Schindler points out that new "Clues" have been added to the Cluetrain Manifesto. "If you’ve ever said, 'markets are conversations' you’re quoting the words of The Cluetrain Manifesto, the ’90s-era opus on the promise of the Web. David Weinberger and Doc Searls (two of the original authors of Cluetrain) are publishing another provocative work today called New Clues. Weinberger says: 'The Cluetrain Manifesto was an attempt to explain to businesses and the media what they were getting wrong about the Web. In the broadcast era, a mass audience was fed what the media owners thought they wanted. It was one-way communication. The Web lets us communicate directly with one another about what matters to us. The Web’s been a social world since it began. A pall has descended even among those of us who have believed in the Net as an opportunity for transformation. What seemed inevitable 15 years ago now is at risk. So Doc and I thought it was time for a re-assessment. For many people, the Net now feels like just another way commercial media feed us content and toys. We can treat it like that. Or we can remember the Net’s original and true essence: it is a set of connections open to anyone. We have built wonders with it. Those days are far from over. But we have to take back the idea and meaning of the Net. We have to make sure that it stays open to everyone, every idea, and every connection.'"
Did they include instructions for... (Score:1)
How to download the internet in 3 easy steps???
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How about one step. :0
wget -H -r www.google.com
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I'm almost afraid to answer this ('cause it's a joke)...but you can use the --header, --user-agent and a few other options to get around this on a lot of sites.
False premise (Score:3)
Um... no. The 'net was originally the ultimate walled garden. Then some squatters snuck over the wall and banded together with some residents and other people lucky enough to gain admittance created a few illicit hangout spots in unused corners... The garden has opened up a bit since those days, but it's still walled and gated just as it's always been.
Did you mean to post on SlashDot? (Score:2)
>> If you’ve ever said, 'markets are conversations'
Um...did you mean to post this on SlashDot? I'm pretty sure no one here ever said that...
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>> If you’ve ever said, 'markets are conversations'
Um...did you mean to post this on SlashDot? I'm pretty sure no one here ever said that...
I once said "meerkats adore conservation" does that count?
So Doc and I thought it was time for a re-assessme (Score:1)
You thought wrong,assholes.
Go fuck a tree.
Web a conversation? Try BEING POLITE. (Score:5, Insightful)
1) FIRST RULE: DON'T INTERRUPT ME.
2) SECOND RULE: DON'T PISS ME OFF.
Throw up a dialog box within seconds asking me to join [insert anything here], I just lost interest in anything you had to say, and I'm on to something else. See first rule.
Bounce my web page up, down and around and piss me off because whenever I try to click a link, it moves under my mouse or finger and all I do is get angry. Not very good marketing. See second rule.
Refresh my web page multiple times just... *because,* and once again I can't just click a damn link, then I just get angry again and go elsewhere. See second rule.
4) Clutter your site with ad crappy boxes full of bandwidth sucking animations that my pipe can't support because I'm using my phone as a hotspot and every byte is costing me, and once again, I'm off to something *useful.* See second rule.
5) NEVER, EVER, start playing any sort of sound automatically. I don't need to wake my spouse, child or cat to hear about your ever so special brainwave or product at 1:30 because I can't sleep. See first and second rule.
Look, if a waiter did this stuff to you in a restaurant. If he constantly interrupted, bounced the menu when you were trying to read it, constantly rearranged the dishes, silverware and cutlery while you were eating, or began to sing loudly and randomly while trying to ply you with daily special coupons during the course of your meal, you would *never* come back to that restaurant. It astonishes me every day that web designers think they can do exactly the same thing to your web page. It never seems to occur to them just how angry this behavior makes the end user.
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Adblock Plus, Ghostery, NoScript, HOSTS - need I go on? We all know that the web is exploited by a bunch of assholes who view us as sources of revenue. So - arm yourself to stop the flow of revenue. You're right, I don't go back to a restaurant where an ignorant ADHD waiter ruins my meal. So, I don't keep going back to annoyingadserver.USA The damned thing is blocked, first on my router, then on my computer, then in my browser.
Atrocious Site! (Score:2)
a pool of putzes (Score:2)
Ok, government, you win. You've got our data. Now, what can we do to make sure you use it against Them and not against Us? In fact, can you tell the difference?
If we want our government to back off, the deal has to be that if — when — the next attack comes, we can't complain that they should have surveilled us harder.
A trade isn't fair trade if we don't know what we're giving up. Do you hear that, Security for Privacy trade-off?
1) no, "government" doesn't win. those that have violated the constitution should be tried and punished.
2) there is an extraordinary difference between "we dont want you to do unconstitutional warrantless mass surveillance and universally weaken security" and "we dont want you to do any surveillance". should they do surveillance? yes, off course, that's why government spies exist, to find and stop those who want to harm us. that said, warrantless mass surveillance is not required to achieve that goal and
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Alas, the Gluetrain has vanished (Score:2)