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Obama Unveils Plan To Bring About Faster Internet In the US 417

An anonymous reader writes: President Obama is rolling out a new plan to boost the speed of internet connections throughout the U.S. For one, he'll be asking the FCC for assistance in neutralizing state laws (PDF) that prevent cities from building municipal broadband services. "At speeds of 4 Mbps or less, 75 percent of consumers have a choice between two or more fixed providers, and 15 percent can select among three or more ISPs. However, in the market for Internet service that can deliver 25 Mbps downstream—the speed increasingly recognized as a baseline to get the full benefits of Internet access—three out of four Americans do not have a choice between providers." The state laws laws restrict competition and give the major ISPs no incentive to invest and innovate.

Obama will also be directing other federal agencies to increase the amount of money they grant and loan to ISP-related projects. "Any effort by the FCC to preempt anti-muni-broadband laws will likely focus on a controversial part of the FCC's congressional charter known as "Section 706." That part of the law recognizes the FCC's authority to stimulate broadband deployment, which supporters of preemption argue the tactic would promote. If Section 706 sounds familiar, that's because it's also the legal tool some say should be used to promote net neutrality, or the principle that broadband companies shouldn't speed up or slow down some Web sites over others."
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Obama Unveils Plan To Bring About Faster Internet In the US

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  • About time (Score:5, Insightful)

    by halivar ( 535827 ) <.bfelger. .at. .gmail.com.> on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @08:18AM (#48810289)

    More robust competition at the local level will raise speeds and lower prices. And one day, one bright, glorious day, I can tell Comcast to take a hike.

    • What "more robust competition" is this?

      What he's proposing is ALLOWING cities to build municipal broadband networks. He's not requiring it, and he's not paying for it.

      So, maybe, a city decides to build such a thing. They're going to let a contract to...a broadband company to build it, then the broadband company is going to sell it. Sort of like now, with either the city taking an extra cut of the profits, or the city raising taxes to pay for it.

      Main reason for lack of competition is the cost. That co

      • Re:About time (Score:5, Insightful)

        by 3.5 stripes ( 578410 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @09:15AM (#48810587)

        The cost? You mean that every time a local community decides to foot the cost themselves, Comcast and co go get laws passed at the state level to stop the community from being able to build the network, because obviously they're just interested in the local community not overspending : /

      • Re:About time (Score:5, Interesting)

        by internerdj ( 1319281 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @09:27AM (#48810683)
        I live a couple hours from Chattanooga, TN. I know that this specifically deals with a problem they are having. As I understand it, the utility company rolled out fiber as part of their smart meter transition and they offer fiber internet through those means for the metro area. It has been so successful that state legislators have been in a frenzy to write laws to keep them from expanding service to their customers that aren't in the city.
      • Actually, there are many non compete clauses in cable fiefdoms. This would allow for pole access, and competition in areas where there cannot be one, and or it it is slowed at every turn due to red tape and ground/pole contracts. NYC would benefit greatly by getting verizon out of he way.

    • More robust competition at the local level will raise speeds and lower prices. And one day, one bright, glorious day, I can tell Comcast to take a hike.

      You could do that now. Then get all cozy with QWest/CenturyLink, TWC, Cox, etc...

    • >More robust competition at the local level will raise speeds and lower prices.

      We used to have something like that in the US until the ISP deregulation of the late 90s removed requirements for allowing subleasing bandwidth and last mile connectivity. (Of the sort the UK uses to proliferate enviable cost competition.)

    • In general I would be happier with a split model. The municipal governments will pay for the network infrastructure, those fiber lines, wide area wireless, in general the big stuff that needs to go to the last mile. just like they pay to keep our roads operational, and will go to our homes, where they will plow, and maintain it to a particular quality level.
      However with that municipal government infrastructure. We should be able to choose ISP who will offer the internet services, who can offer us differen

  • I cannot get anything close to 4M. It is either dial up, ISDN or a T1. There are no other services. And frankly, I am not so far from a reasonably large town. There is some notion that service offerings are better than really exist.
    • I cannot get anything close to 4M. It is either dial up, ISDN or a T1. There are no other services. And frankly, I am not so far from a reasonably large town.

      Are you really sure you don't have LoS to a WISP? I live in the sticks and I've got that. I get a whoppin' 5Mbps for around fifty bucks a month. It's unreliable and whatever they're doing for fair queueing instead of just handing out what they've got via round-robin (to make sure you don't get more than you paid for, I presume) causes weird buffering problems on occasion, but they usually fade out after the stream has been going for a moment or two.

      IOW, yes, I would also badly like some improvement in my in

    • This is because the way the telecoms provide coverage data, which the FCC has typically been too scared to challenge because of the revolving door of politician to telecom employer (pretty much every FCC head has joined a major telecom, or telecom related lobby after leaving office for a shit ton of money), and they don't want to rock the boat.

      Surprisingly, the current FCC head appears to have a pair of balls... although they are small, at least he is doing more than anyone else ever has.

      As for why the offe

    • And frankly, I am not so far from a reasonably large town

      That would put you firmly in a rural area. They clearly called out that rural broadband availability is too low.

  • Stop giving money to mega companies and tailor your government "cheese" giveaway to companies who will build to new areas. The last stimulus scam that they tried contained so many impossible conditions that no small/start-up company could comply with them. The main deal breaker being giving the government first lien. Foolish to think any company wouldn't have a loan or two out there with a bank that isn't going to give up their lien. So either the people who draft those programs are fools or they are in

  • The President has sent his people out over the land, finding things that don't work very well. He will now spend the rest of his tenure urging various federal agencies and Congress to "stop doin' stupid stuff", accompanied, if possible, by some form of federal largess. Rinse. Relather. Repeat.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Yeah, don't you just hate it when a President shows leadership. Next thing you know, he'll be scheming with other heads of state to coordinate efforts on global issues like climate change - in fact, I think he even pulled that stunt recently with the Chinese at some sort of "summit meeting". And I bet he even sits at the head of the table at those pretentious "cabinet meetings" he holds. Of all the nerve...

  • Dear Obama.... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @09:02AM (#48810503) Homepage

    You need to do 3 things.

    1 - Make "franchise agreements" in cities, towns and states ILLEGAL. Paying a kickback to the government to keep out competition and to just do business is wrong. time to smack the hands of all these scumbag politicians.

    2 - Government funded and OWNED fiber everywhere. Dont let AT&T own it or Comcast. It's all government ownd so that a company can come into town and set up shop as an ISP without having to spend millions to run fibers right next to all the other competition. Plus this allows you to force regulate ISP's from being dicks and only offering their service to the rich parts of town.

    3 - FORCE HONEST PRICING make Service Contracts ILLEGAL.. you can not find anywhere on comcasts website the real prices of internet, only their special sale prices that go up from 100 to 600% at a later date. No more of this bullshit, honest prices prominently displayed. no Contracts allowed in any way for any reason.

    • I'd rather have it owned by taxpayers/municipalities or the people than the government. Not entirely unlike BLM land. Public broadband of the people for the people and by the people.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        News flash. Owned by taxpayers = Government.

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        I'd rather have it owned by taxpayers/municipalities or the people than the government. Not entirely unlike BLM land. Public broadband of the people for the people and by the people.

        Technically, they're one and the same - the utility owned by taxpayers/municipalities IS owned by the government! Public services are provided by government or under contract by the government.

    • You do realize that Franchise Agreements are not necessarily bad. They are typically a double edged sword, both protecting consumers in that locality, but also providing (in some cases stupidly long term, 1 VA area did a 100 year agreement) a monopoly to a particular content/broadband provider.

      VZ, ATT and Comcast have all lobbied the crap out of those localities, and gutted the franchise agreements, removing requirements like they have to wire up the entire area, and removing consumer protections such as l

  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @09:45AM (#48810815)
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  • "The state laws laws restrict competition and give the major ISPs no incentive to invest and innovate."

    True. And out in the rural areas this is far worse with far higher costs and far lower speeds. A lot of the existing infrastructure that could be used is hoarded by those who have control of it such as tower space and poll space. Vast amounts of money is spent on ultra high speed to urban areas while rural areas are left out creating more of a digital divide which in turns pushes more people to the cities

  • This initiative may well make faster Internet speeds available at seemingly moderate increases in monthly payments. But you are likely going to see low end Internet plans cut, forcing people to upgrade to high speed plans they don't want or need, and you are going to see massive direct and indirect subsidies to telecom companies.

    I'm on a 50 Mbps plan, and to my provider's credit, that's what they deliver. What they aren't giving me is a 5 Mbps plan at a fraction of the price, which is really all I want.

  • Reagan: "If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."

    >> increase the amount of money they grant and loan to ISP-related projects

    I'd say we're in Reagan's third phase with ISPs, wouldn't you?

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