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Facebook Will Let You Flag Content As 'False' 225

jfruh writes: If you're tired of seeing fake or misleading news articles posted by your friends to Facebook and then spreading like wildfire, you might be in luck. In a system that's something like Slashdot comment moderation on a grand scale, you'll now be able to flag a story as false. Links that have been flagged this way by many users will appear less frequently in people's newsfeeds, or with a disclaimer attached.
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Facebook Will Let You Flag Content As 'False'

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  • Cool (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:42AM (#48864833)

    What could possibly go wrong?

    • Re:Cool (Score:5, Insightful)

      by thaylin ( 555395 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:47AM (#48864883)

      Exactly, dont like the political/religious message so flag it false and less people will see it.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by PopeRatzo ( 965947 )

        Exactly, dont like the political/religious message so flag it false and less people will see it.

        Odds are all political/religious messages are false.

        And no, your mileage will NOT vary.

      • Same thing happens here.

      • Re:Cool (Score:4, Insightful)

        by sideslash ( 1865434 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:20AM (#48865209)
        <grammar nazi>You mean "fewer people", not "less people".</grammar nazi>

        So how about when a bunch of religious people flag a story on evolution as false? Sounds like this semi-curating of stories will turn more on Facebook demographics than on objective facts.
      • Re:Cool (Score:5, Interesting)

        by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:40AM (#48865425)

        Exactly, dont like the political/religious message so flag it false and less people will see it.

        If they want to go Slashdot mod style, they should offer a dropdown with multiple different 'false' tags.

        As in, multiple different statements you can apply to a post, and your friends should be able to see how many friends applied different labels:
        (1) Awesome content
        (2) Interesting
        (3) Very Funny
        (4) Agree 100%
        (5) Disagree with this
        (6) Inaccurate Information
        (7) Partisan political bullshit
        (8) False and Dangerous
        (9) Clickbait
        (10) Scam/Bogus offer or contest
        (11) Broken link, or cannot view content
        (12) Page says you have to 'like' before you can see content (13) Links to malicious software, adware, or security attack
        (14) Common Misconception
        (15) Suspected Hoax
        (16) Definite Scam
        (17) Fraud or phishing attempt

      • by jythie ( 914043 )
        Beyond political and religious messages, I suspect it will be a useful tool in getting competing businesses's news buried. In the past all you could do was game things so your stuff got highlighted, but to be able to negatively impact someone else's stuff? Consulting and marketing 'services' will probalby be folding it into their toolbelt as soon as it goes live.
      • "Exactly, dont like the political/religious message so flag it false and less people will see it."

        People who sell FB accounts just raised their prices.

    • by tiberus ( 258517 )
      Hmmm, I think I'd rather be able to add a link to snopes.com.
    • by pla ( 258480 )
      More importantly, will it let you tag "official" Facebook messages as false?

      Like their privacy policy?
    • Just give people a "Hate" button ... or if hate is too strong a word, "Not!"
  • by bondsbw ( 888959 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:43AM (#48864843)

    Slashdot doesn't have a "False" moderation... and it could use one.

    • by sribe ( 304414 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:49AM (#48864907)

      Exactly my 1st thought. Maybe not "false" exactly, but I've long wanted to be able to mod comments "-1 incorrect". Of course I also want a "+1 funny AND insightful".

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        +1 underrated.
        -1 overrated.

        Job done.

      • by Lussarn ( 105276 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:09AM (#48865105)

        You should not get bad karma because you are wrong, the post can still contribute, and the poster get the chance to be corrected. A lot of "facts" really are opinions anyway.

        • by Archangel Michael ( 180766 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:29AM (#48865319) Journal

          A lot of "facts" really are opinions anyway.

          That's your opinion. Mine is different. /toungeincheek

        • by sribe ( 304414 )

          A lot of "facts" really are opinions anyway.

          And that's why it cannot be done. Too many people would apply it to opinions they did not agree with.

          Which is unfortunate, because many of the discussions here do deal in cold hard facts. And I disagree about karma, when the discussion is truly fact based, posting a falsehood as fact should absolutely damage one's karma.

      • Comment removed based on user account deletion
        • by sribe ( 304414 )

          Do you want to give Karma: Insightful. Don't you want to give Karma: Funny.

          I did not realize that.

    • Slashdot doesn't have a "False" moderation... and it could use one.

      Wait, you don't have that option when you moderate? I use it all the time. It works just like overrated & underrated.

    • That is truly horrible idea.
    • Now nearly any story posting an opinion will get voted false. As there will be people disagreeing with each others facts.

      Any articles about religion. Will be marked false from the atheists.
      Any articles against religion. Will be marked false from all the religious.
      The Right will mark false everything that is left leaning.
      The Left will mark false everything that is right leaning.

      Now granted it will be much more peaceful without a lot of this stupid bickering as most peoples opinions are worthless in the gra

      • by XxtraLarGe ( 551297 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:41AM (#48865431) Journal

        Any articles about religion. Will be marked false from the atheists.
        Any articles against religion. Will be marked false from all the religious.
        The Right will mark false everything that is left leaning.
        The Left will mark false everything that is right leaning.

        This gives a new meaning to "false flag [wikipedia.org]" operations! :-D

      • As an atheist, I typically just ignore the religion posts on FB, unless they're by certain friends, who tend to post interesting stuff (i.e. not dogmatic "DIE UNBELIEVER") on the topic. I mean, just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I don't occasionally want to read more on what, for example, the Pope is saying on a topic.

        • by bondsbw ( 888959 )

          Talk about hyperbole.

          I'd say that most of my Facebook friends are religious, but I have not once seen someone post "DIE UNBELIEVER".

          I've never seen Fox News or other right-wing news sites post "DIE UNBELIEVER".

          With the exception of some very extremist (i.e. terrorist) sects, most religious people don't say things like "DIE UNBELIEVER". You may not like everything they say and believe, but there is a stark contrast between believing people morally shouldn't do certain things and telling them to die.

      • "However once in a while a truly new piece of information may come out to inspire further investigation, and shouldn't be shut down so quickly because it doesn't immediately fit our world view."

        While true, consider the forum. FB is a place for keeping in touch with friends and family not a news outlet.
    • I'm not a fan of the false moderation because it's so obvious that it will be rampantly misused. (ie: Jennifer changed her status to "In a committed relationship". Flag: FALSE!)

      I like the moderations /. uses. Would be interesting if a similar system could be made for a social site, with moderation points, etc.

      • If people are rampantly marking Jennifer's in a committed relationship status as false I'd think that should indicate something significant to the other party in that supposed committed relationship.
    • Slashdot doesn't have a "False" moderation... and it could use one.

      Not to mention that we don't get to mod stories... and we should.

  • by robinsonne ( 952701 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:43AM (#48864845)
    So if enough people don't believe something and flag it false, it becomes "false." Something else for paid shills and opinionated people to do I suppose.
    • by KermodeBear ( 738243 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:50AM (#48864909) Homepage

      That was my immediate reaction as well.

      "I don't agree with the political / religious / philosophical point of the article, so I am going to flag it as false, even if I know that it is true."

      Just what we needed, yet another tool to promote drama and division among people.

      • by GIL_Dude ( 850471 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:05AM (#48865045) Homepage
        Well, that just calls for a reputation service so that the flagging gets the appropriate weight. Perhaps that is where meta-modding comes in (to give it a slashdot spin). But at some point, a pattern emerges that can be seen, analyzed, and corrected for when someone mods every story they see about a certain topic as false. I'm betting a company with the kind of data a Facebook or Google has can probably come up with a reputation engine for weighting the flags too that will work - not perfectly - but probably "good enough".
        • by internerdj ( 1319281 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:41AM (#48865435)
          Motivation for Facebook or Google: maximum time on website. The most profitable reputation engine is one that feeds the user his or her own preferences back to them (Judging by my news feed Yahoo is doing this). This is exactly how Fox News or Huff Post works except that instead of self-selecting news that supports my worldview it is being done without any internal processing. You might could get away with expert truthfulness on some issues. However, the scariest thing for me is that things that are opposing opinions will have an assigned truth value and the best metric would be popular opinion.
        • by gmack ( 197796 )

          Your plan falls apart when you have large groups of people who are willing to believe literally anything about some group they don't like and refuse to accept any evidence that they are wrong.

          The number of people who believe Obama will bring in Sharia law or has the national guard preparing internment camps is outright staggering.

  • Not good enough (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jandrese ( 485 ) <kensama@vt.edu> on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:45AM (#48864857) Homepage Journal
    There should be a requirement that if you flag a story as false, you have to provide a link to a reputable source refuting it.

    I already do this on Facebook, but I always provide a link to Politifacts or Factcheck or even Snopes. If you don't, you'll just be that guy who says "no" because he's to naive to believe that Obama already has secret death panels that kill millions of Americans each year.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      Snopes are liberal shills, don't you know, and the stories they say are false make a good point.

      I know people who believe those things.

      • Re:Not good enough (Score:5, Informative)

        by dywolf ( 2673597 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:09AM (#48865093)

        Reality has a well known liberal bias after all.

      • I know people who believe those things.

        Shills? No. In love with their own opinions? Yes. Presenting opinion as fact? Occasionally, they definitely do this. It's not hard to find examples even in the non-political material. Snopes has a reputation as a bastion of fact, but that's not what it is. It's just got more fact than most sites.

    • by sribe ( 304414 )

      I already do this on Facebook, but I always provide a link to Politifacts or Factcheck or even Snopes. If you don't, you'll just be that guy who says "no" because he's to naive to believe that Obama already has secret death panels that kill millions of Americans each year.

      Wait, you mean that picture of Obama shaking hands with Hitler was fake? Gosh, sure could have fooled me. (Tea Partiers, the pathetic trolls of conservative politics...)

      • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

        Wait, you mean that picture of Obama shaking hands with Hitler was fake? Gosh, sure could have fooled me.

        It's pretty obvious to spot the fakes. If Obama is not wearing his Islamic clothing, or does't have a connection to Kenya and/or Sharia law, then obviously the picture is a fake.

        Jeebus Weeps - don't you people have any common sense??????????

      • by internerdj ( 1319281 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:11AM (#48865123)
        I'm so sorry that you've been mislead. That really is a picture of Hitler passing Obama a fake birth certificate.
        • by sribe ( 304414 )

          I'm so sorry that you've been mislead. That really is a picture of Hitler passing Obama a fake birth certificate.

          Brilliant! Here's hoping you get the mod'ing you deserve: +6 funny (& insightful)!

      • Wait, if that's fake...then you're telling me no one has ever seen Obama and Hitler in the same room at the same time?! That can only mean one thing! To FaceBook!

        • by sribe ( 304414 )

          Wait, if that's fake...then you're telling me no one has ever seen Obama and Hitler in the same room at the same time?!

          Of course not you dumbass. That picture was clearly taken outside ;-)

    • Re:Not good enough (Score:5, Interesting)

      by ledow ( 319597 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:59AM (#48864993) Homepage

      Obligatory XKCD:

      http://xkcd.com/250/ [xkcd.com]

    • Re:Not good enough (Score:5, Interesting)

      by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:06AM (#48865057)

      There should be a requirement that if you flag a story as false, you have to provide a link to a reputable source refuting it.

      Years ago I did this at work when some administrative staff person sent around the chain email warning you not to press a certain sequence of buttons when on your home phone as that would let the bad guys do all sorts of nefarious things. (#90 scam [snopes.com] I was nice about it, only replied to the person who originated the email and pointed them to the Snopes article showing the said information was a hoax.

      In return, instead of thanks, I got a blistering email about who I was wasting company time by looking at things on the internet. From that, and other attempts to point out wrong things, I have come to the conclusion that some people would rather be in denial to the truth than admit that they were taken in by a hoax, and get very angry when confronted with their own stupidity.

      • by meta-monkey ( 321000 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:15AM (#48865169) Journal

        My wife's grandmother sends those things out in mass email forwards. And in all caps.

        A few months back her computer running Vista was so horribly bogged down with viruses and malware that I formatted it and installed Mint. When she asked what she could do to thank me I said "never, ever, ever, ever, forward me an email." Haven't gotten one since, so well worth the effort I'd say.

      • Remember ElfBowling.exe?! It was one of those .exe's that all IT people just love their users executing. Yes this was a really long time ago & we were all having fun with it until that email came that said it was a VIRUS & would CRASH YOUR HARD DRIVE on XMAS DAY! I replied, with links & even the number to the software dev that made the game. Of course they had a message right off about the hoax when you called.

        Even after all the proof that the game was harmless I overheard someone warning

    • For some of my acquaintances, labeling something as "Faux News" is enough especially the latest "no-go zones" fiasco.
    • A guy I went to high school with is one of my Facebook friends. He and I worked in the same organization years ago on a job and I have no problems being Facebook friends with him as we live in different cities now and work at different jobs. He's pretty much become what they call a "wing nut" on the right wing side of American politics. A few years ago he posted an article that was complete baloney and I posted a link to a Snopes article refuting his article. He in turn posted a link to an article claim
      • by pnutjam ( 523990 )
        It's true:
        http://starshipearththebigpicture.com/2012/09/21/snopes-busted/

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2412865/posts
  • by Kkloe ( 2751395 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:47AM (#48864877)
    well now goverments can have the option to make that the links of beating by a policeofficer is false or some other crap they want to hide and make fb mark it as false
  • by Jim Buzbee ( 517 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @09:55AM (#48864955) Homepage
    "Isn't my new baby the cutest thing ever?" - FALSE
  • I want to report that story as false, there's no way a single company with perhaps final decisions taken by a very small amount of people can change a policy on a whim or at random and that this will affect the content of every damn newspaper, radio station and TV news.

  • by ledow ( 319597 )

    The people on my Facebook who post anything I consider junk, we either have a reasoned discussion about, or I couldn't care less about their updates.

    The people who post the "It's such-and-such a day because of this number and this number and it only happens once in a lifetime" (which are almost invariably wrong anyway)... I can't stand that sort of junk anyway.

    The religious nuts? I block, or set to ignore so they don't get offended by my blocking and cause me more of a nuisance than they already are.

    The vi

    • by Quirkz ( 1206400 )

      "It's such-and-such a day because of this number and this number and it only happens once in a lifetime"

      The most frustrating part about those posts is usually the entire analysis is correct, up until that last throwaway line "it will never happen again." Why do the authors feel the need to include it? In some cases the real answer is it won't occur for another thousand or ten thousand years, but that's not good enough? Of course some of the others (December has five Tuesdays this year) happen about half of all years and are complete junk articles, but I actually find the rarer ones kind of neat, with the exce

  • ... will stop my tin-foil-hat-wearing friends from going overboard whenever one of their conspiracy-obsessed friends posts a comment about chemtrails or whatever government-is-out-to-get-you theory of the day is making the rounds.

  • Uhmmm... (Score:5, Funny)

    by blackbeak ( 1227080 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:03AM (#48865021)
    Fox News has a Facebook page, right? Just thinkin'....
  • So what? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by GrumpySteen ( 1250194 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:06AM (#48865067)

    This changes nothing.

    Facebook isn't a reliable news source. It was never meant to be a reliable news source and will never be a reliable news source.

    Nobody should ever rely on Facebook to provide reliable news in the first place, so making it less reliable and more biased should have no effect on anyone who isn't a complete fucking idiot.

  • by Unordained ( 262962 ) <unordained_slashdotNOSPAM@csmaster.org> on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:09AM (#48865103)

    I'd rather that people who would normally see such a hoax article in their feed, always go ahead and see it -- with the disclaimer attached. They're likely to see it elsewhere anyway, why not use the opportunity to inform them that it's likely false? Instead, they get to see a story on Fox, then open their Facebook feed, and see nothing about it ... now not only are they not told it's false, it even looks like a liberal conspiracy to cover-up the truth! So very helpful.

    • Adding the note that it may be false will likely make many people believe it's false, whether that's the case or not. People generally follow other people's opinions, or are at least strongly influenced by them.

      Even if you're sure something is true but it's tagged as "potentially false" then at the very least it will seed doubts.

  • by meta-monkey ( 321000 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:10AM (#48865113) Journal

    All posts? Or just shared articles?

    "Little Bobby was great in the school play!"

    Tagged as FALSE: "Little Bobby sucked!"

  • False Flag (Score:5, Insightful)

    by pipingguy ( 566974 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:13AM (#48865141)
    What about false flagging 'False' flags? I can't see any kind of coordinated abuse of this system at all, especially on political issues (which of course, don't exist on Facebook).
  • Not that I am a facebook user. The better idea is to introduce vote up and down. Those with highest vote has better chance to show up on the stupid feeds.
    • This already happens according to some Farcebook algorithm.

      MANY users[who?] detest this and opt for "Most Recent" instead of "Top Stories". It's one of the reasons extensions such as FB Purity [fbpurity.com] and Social Fixer [socialfixer.com] exist.

      Right now I do most of my Farcebook interactions through Tinfoil for Facebook [google.com]. There's also a version for Twitter. Having "social" media in its own browser cut off from the rest of your system means you don't have to install "Messenger" to use chat and more importantly, it can't be written t
  • by argStyopa ( 232550 ) on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @10:29AM (#48865317) Journal

    Yeah, I'm sure these will be used with at least the same intellectual rigor and restraint of any internet discussion, and not applied willy nilly to everything people disagree with emotionally or politically.

  • Many people that share political/religious items do not care if they are false. They agree with the premise of the item, the facts are just a nuisance. Please will always think something is false if they disagree with it and accept as fact anything they agree with. This goes across all ideologies and can be seen rampantly everywhere.

    When I first got on the internet, early 90s Usenet, I thought this is great and will dispel all of the nut cases with crazy ideas and conspiracy theories. Most Usenet groups tha

    • Many people that share political/religious items do not care if they are false.

      People dont care but Facebook seemingly cares and wants to get rid of them from news feed.
      Maybe its their idea of improving site, may be it is to collect more personal data.
      Or may be all those spam posts are making their spy algorithms go nuts.

      • by jmyers ( 208878 )

        I am sure this change helps them to understand underlying bias of individuals who post and who flag as false. I would say helps the spy algorithms or at least presents the opportunity to learn more about the product (users). It gives them easy to evaluate statistics without having to analyze the comments. You can pretty much guess the position of the person who tagged false. They could even have their own fact checkers researching popular items so from the FB perspective you could know the position of the p

  • OMG, they stole Bennett's idea for moderating Twitter !!!!
  • or all that Tea Party Libertarian crap

  • If people that lie for a living are upset about their lies being flagged, that suggests that this is a good idea.
  • Let me flag those add's rolling in the news feeds as false then you've got something.
  • This is just another False flag story!

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    "Dear Small Businessman,

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  • If one person stands up and says something that the rest don't want to hear they'll just say "liar" and shut him down even if he's completely legit. That is the problem with down voting etc. It is really just a popularity contest.

    I get up voted and downvoted on this site pretty much at random. I'll say something that seems like a reach and everyone loves it. I'll say something else that makes some little faction unhappy but is completely f'ing obvious and get downvoted.

    Up or down votes have nothing to do wi

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