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Windows 10 Will Be Free To Users Who Test It 281

An anonymous reader writes: Microsoft has been making a big push to change its business model for Windows — likely due to the low/no cost updates you can get for competing operating systems. The company surprised everyone when it said legit copies of Windows 7 and 8 would be supplied with free upgrades, but now they're extending that even further: anyone who tests the Windows 10 Technical Preview will get a free upgrade to the full version of Windows 10 when it comes out. In a blog post, Microsoft's Gabe Aul said, "As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the [Microsoft account] you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build and remain activated. Once you have successfully installed this build and activated, you will also be able to clean install on that PC from final media if you want to start over fresh."
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Windows 10 Will Be Free To Users Who Test It

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Will I get Windows 10 Ultimate??

  • by JoeyRox ( 2711699 ) on Saturday June 20, 2015 @06:06PM (#49953765)
    Because we've all been beta-testing Windows since forever.
    • by jasmusic ( 786052 ) on Saturday June 20, 2015 @06:32PM (#49953883)

      Because we've all been beta-testing Windows since forever.

      Wait till someone lets you in on the secret of Linux.

      • Because we've all been beta-testing Windows since forever.

        Wait till someone lets you in on the secret of Linux.

        Wait until you get your refund from Linux.

    • Been there, done that. Since Windows 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and 8. Only a fool would have installed Windows ME.
      • I'd add Vista and 8/8.1 to that. 7 is not that bad, but XP was faster on same hardware. ME? only thing it had for it it rebooted really fast after bluescreening :p

  • by Anonymous Coward

    By "final media" do they mean bittorrent? Because that's where I've historically gotten all of my windows media from

  • by Dunbal ( 464142 ) * on Saturday June 20, 2015 @06:22PM (#49953841)
    Can't even give it away huh?
    • by Altrag ( 195300 )

      I don't know if I'd call it "desperation" so much as "recognizing a changing landscape." Its hard to compete with free (Linux) and Apple's essentially giving away OSX with their hardware as well. Windows is the only major OS you still pay for these days.

      And really, its not all that much skin off their backs. Probably 90+% of people who already have Windows will never upgrade it until/unless they upgrade the entire computer with a preinstalled OEM version. Not that I have any insider info, but I would gu

      • by tsotha ( 720379 )
        Apple giving away IOS makes some sense because Apple is trying to sell you hardware. What is Microsoft trying to sell me that will cover a major OS version upgrade? I don't see it.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Linux has done such a "fine job" there on the desktop & only reason it's used on servers + smartphones is that it is FREE, keeping per unit costs down - & THAT is the ONLY real reason!

      (It's certainly not 'superiority', since face facts: Device drivers of solid quality for peripherals happens for Windows for sure, & it is what truly separates Windows & sets it ABOVE Linux - it's nigh guaranteed since Windows "rules the roost" marketshare-wise on BOTH PC desktops + servers combined).

      Fact: Linu

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 20, 2015 @06:27PM (#49953857)

    It's not really all that surprising that MS wants additional testing badly enough to give away copies of Win10 for free to get it. Remember the fact that part of Microsoft's 2014 layoffs included elimination of all the SDETs in the Windows division. Those that were deemed worthy to stay were converted to SDEs and the rest were told to hit the road.

    Needless to say, the result is likely to be exactly what one would expect of canning the entire test team suddenly, if the state of the technical previews has been any indication...

  • I see we now have a balloon, a stained glass window icon and the real-life Microsoft logo appearing in-line with the headline.
    Thankfully without obscuring the text. This time.

    • by alexhs ( 877055 )

      It's actually the old Microsoft logo. The new one is basically like the stained glass window, without the window frame.
      And if you "want" the logos to obscure the text, you just have to narrow your window width to a size of 950 pixels or less :)

  • Then my computer will have Windows 10??

  • "...you will also be able to clean install on *that* PC from final media if you want to start over fresh."

    What if I get a new computer or upgrade my CPU/motherboard?

    • I quite agree. I have been beta testing the preview edition for the last few months. A few days ago, Microsoft included the new Windows logo in the status section of the Windows 7 & 8 toolbars, which if clicked prompt people to reserve their copies. I went to the local Microsoft store and asked them about it on my Winbook, and was told that I'd have to reinstall 8.1 and then upgrade. Which is ridiculous - going from Preview Edition to the Release version should be as simple as a Windows update. No

  • build and connected with the [Microsoft account] you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build and remain activated.

    Is this like Windows 8 where it nags you to sign in with a @msn or @hotmail account?
    Because I'm very much uninterested in having Microsoft follow along with my daily activities.

    • I own a surface and as annoying as using this for my hotmail account it is really nice to have Office 365, Onedrive, favorites, and even desktop wallpapers and settings synced together. Even if you use Android you can gain the cloud functionality portion and MS office too!

      MS doesn't track your daily activities. The purpose is to get you on Onedrive and it's cloud offerings. You are free to use it or not. I use it because it is included. I have a truecrypt container I put on it for important files encrypted

  • yes ... (Score:2, Insightful)

    ... I'm sure the PC makers would love it if I would "upgrade" to Windows 10, discover that my PC just won't cut it, and then buy a new PC (which coincidentally will have Windows 10 bundled).
    • Re:yes ... (Score:4, Informative)

      by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Saturday June 20, 2015 @08:25PM (#49954365)

      If your PC runs Windows 7 it'll run Windows 10. There have been no increase in performance requirements in the past 3 versions of windows. In fact Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 are working on ever increasing memory and CPU efficiency.

      • If your PC runs Windows 7 it'll run Windows 10. There have been no increase in performance requirements in the past 3 versions of windows. In fact Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 are working on ever increasing memory and CPU efficiency.

        Not true. It requires UEFI 2.3.1 with CSM bios turned off.

        Unless I misread something. If you have a 2011 era computer with a bios with no EFI your options are 8.1 or 7 until they go EOL. Any new pc from 2013 or later should have them but I have not seen much at all in 2012 or earlier besides some botique boards and imacs that had UEFI 2.3.1.

        • Re:yes ... (Score:4, Interesting)

          by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Saturday June 20, 2015 @11:38PM (#49954899)

          Jury is out.

          It looks like to get a Windows certification OEMs *must* ship with UEFI 2.3.1 and with Secure Boot enabled by default. It also looks like they've removed the requirement that Secure Boot must be selectable on x86 architectures (which is a backtrack and potentially a problem for Linux). Also it appears that this requirement will only be enforced after 1 year from the Windows 10 release. This is based on replies on the Microsoft Forums.

          Currently the technical preview has no problem running under Legacy BIOS (actually people are having more problems installing it on UEFI BIOSes based on forum complaints.

          That said some of the media sites are reporting that UEFI is not optional, but I can't find anything on the Microsoft site to say that.

        • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

          Since I just finished installing a copy on a 2010 machine(Asus board first gen USB3 w/AMD965BE) that only had a BIOS, pretty sure it seems to be working just fine.

        • Not true at all. I have been able to install the Windows 10 Technical Preview to all sorts of crusty old PCs that have not heard about EFI or even 64-bit.
  • Just like in an empire or communist party, the conflicting reports/retractions make it increasingly obvious that some infighting is going on in Redmond. Interesting is who gets purged.

  • I just want to have the old XP interface back. Hell, I'd pay double retail for that option. I love the internals of 7 and 8, but so hate the interface.

    • Which part? My 7 (and my 8) looks strikingly like XP. Some of the internals have moved, but they're not hard to find (esp with global search and shortcuts).

  • My concern is this: only the more expensive ("pro") versions will let you control your upgrades. Upgrades are pretty filthy- routinely booting you out of games, crashing stuff you need to have happen, messing up everything- and disabling that and only doing it when YOU want is a pretty big deal.

    More importantly, making this a "premium only" feature means that, once you have 10, your choices are
    1- Take exactly the upgrades they want on your machine, when they want it, forever,
    2- Some kind of hack
    3- Pay for

    • by Hadlock ( 143607 )

      If you pay full price for Win 10 you still get the full ownership experience. This option will always exist as they have to support enterprise users who require that kind of control over the machine. I have Win 8.1 pro running classic shell and I still have full control over my PC without having some crazy hotmail login, why would that change for Win 10?

      • by cfalcon ( 779563 )

        http://www.howtogeek.com/21916... [howtogeek.com]

        I mean, it's an announced negafeature already. You have to get one of the non-home versions to do this. What version do all these "free" upgrades give you? The one where you can't turn off their binaries, advertisements, and whatever the fuck else they think is good for you to have.

      • by cfalcon ( 779563 )

        I mean really, it should be obvious by now- if Microsoft is willing to jump through hoops to prevent you from disabling auto-update, then it must be VERY much in your interest to disable auto-update. It must be super in your best interest if they are willing to try to shut it off. They wouldn't take away that if you weren't gonna need it real bad in the near future.

  • The real questions that needs to be answered is what the support lifecycle for Windows 10 is. With Windows 7 we are right to 2020, with Windows 8.1 it is good until 2023 ... with Windows 10 .. well there is just a bunch of talk about software as a service and nothing at all about the length of support.

  • The opt-in testing is a big question mark..

    Home users get forced updates, like you can read here:
    http://www.howtogeek.com/219166/you-won%E2%80%99t-be-able-to-disable-or-delay-windows-updates-on-windows-10-home/

    Who tests these updates? Are the "happy" Insiders unwilling test subjects? Will you just get notifications, like:
    "Windows installed some potentially unstable updates on your computer. Please provide feedback and error logs before we release these to real users. Thank you for your co-operation."
  • Excellent, I was going to pony up £80 for a new license for the new PC I'm building. Now I'll spend more on the hardware. I hope this works on Virtual Box so I don't mess up my current machine.

  • OK so wait, their first announcement that if you upgraded to Win10 now, you could have it for free.

    Now they say that if you are willing to test it, you can have it for free forever ...which would imply that the PREVIOUS announcement *wasn't* 'forever'.

  • - If I do a clean install of Windows 10 Preview onto a computer, that will turn into a full license of Windows 10 on July 29, no upgrade from a previous version of Windows is necessary? Or does this only apply if I've installed Windows 10 Preview onto an installation of Windows 7 or 8.1?

    (http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/ is unclear on this, saying "As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the MSA you used

  • by __roo ( 86767 ) on Sunday June 21, 2015 @10:59AM (#49956619) Homepage

    From TFA:

    Update, June 21st 9:45AM: Microsoft has updated its blog post today and removed references to "remain activated." The stealthy edit isn't acknowledged, and we've reached out to the company for comment.

    I bet /. comments helped encourage this.

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