Brazilian Evangelicals Set Up a "Sin Free" Version of Facebook 293
An anonymous reader writes: With $16,000 and the help of the Mayor of Ferraz de Vasconcelos, the town he lives in, Atilla Barros and three other Evangelical Christians created Facegloria, a "sin-free" version of Facebook. Swearing is banned, along with about 600 other words, as well as any violent or erotic content, and depictions of homosexual activity. 100,000 users have signed up the first month. "In two years we hope to get to 10 million users in Brazil. In a month we have had 100,000 and in two we are expecting a big increase thanks to a mobile phone app," Barros says. Acir dos Santos, the mayor, adds: "Our network is global. We have bought the Faceglory domain in English and in all possible languages. We want to take on Facebook and Twitter here and everywhere."
All possible languages? (Score:5, Funny)
To be fair, Finnish is an impossible language.
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Faceglory.jp also not found. They might want to get that one quickly.
Re:All possible languages? (Score:5, Funny)
I would have thought that was already a fetish site.
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I feel so sorry for the poor SOB who has to try to censor the porn from the Japanese site. He'll be encountering shit that will shake his soul to the core.
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Faceglory.jp also not found. They might want to get that one quickly.
For the sake of the Japanese - I hope not. Looks like the Kiwis will have to put up with them. Australians not so much (we've no shortage of fundamentalist god-botherers anyway).
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Wouldn't that be something, if for most top level domains, faceglory is a sex site?
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Re:All possible languages? (Score:5, Informative)
Fine.
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Re:All possible languages? (Score:4, Insightful)
If you want to be that nickpicky about something that was supposed to be a joke in the first place, I'll note that kasvotkunnia.com does not exist either (Faceglory's primary domain is a .com). And I'll also note that querying TLD registrar databases using the whois tool will return results for all domains that have been registered (i.e. bought), not just those that are, to use your word, "active".
Re:All possible languages? (Score:4, Funny)
I'm excited for what's on offer at faceglory.cx
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I'm excited for what's on offer at faceglory.cx
That could set facial recognition back a ways...
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I can also imagine it backfiring when someone considers how appropriate faceglory could be as a name for a rather more naughty website.
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I had to snicker when I saw the domain. I am surprised it isn't used for a Gay porn site.
'Faceglory' (Score:5, Funny)
Sounds a bit like some sort of sexual activity.
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It's interesting that they claim it will be free from sin, and yet also homophobic. Can't be both, either it treats everyone like a human being or it discriminates and the users are going to hell.
Must be kinda funny when they get up to the pearly gates and St. Peter's all like "you know God's son was gay, right? Where the heck did you get 'we should hate gays' from?"
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Oh, and by the way, God's Son is God.
Are you saying that Jesus is his own father, as well as his own son?
Is it Gods all the way down? ;-)
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Ask a Christian, and they will say they hate the sin, not the sinner.
They say that, yes. One of the hardest parts of Christian doctrine is actually living up to that ideal. It's a principle that I've tried to stick to even after I lost my faith - hate the actions, not the actor, or something like that.
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"Hatred is a core value of conservative Christians."
Wow. You're possibly the meanest poster on /. And that's saying something.
That meanness has been earned. Strict Catholic parents with even stricter Southern Baptist Grandparents.
Remember, that as Catholics, My Grandparents knew we were going to hell. Ever wake up in the middle of the night with your Grandmother praying in tongues at the foot of your bed? Or spend an entire Sunday being preached at, looking out the window, and getting long winded explanations of just how God was going to punish me forever and ever for not paying rapt attention for my 10 hours of fun? Some times
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It's interesting that they claim it will be free from sin, and yet also homophobic. Can't be both, either it treats everyone like a human being or it discriminates and the users are going to hell.
That isn't so much interesting as confused. "Homophobia" is a contemporary political epithet used to attack people that don't accept various claims or goals of gay activists or the gay community whereas sin is violating God's law. Biblical morality considers some sexual conduct as sin, such a fornication (sex outside marriage), adultery (sex by married people with someone that they aren't married to), bestiality (sex with animals), and homosexual activity. God offers forgiveness of sin via the sacrifice
Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, I do hope they all move to facegloria, and leave us all alone.
Better yet, they should make an internet of their own.
Re:Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score:5, Funny)
RaptureNet
with pop-up ads that say, "Sinned too much? Stay out of Hell for just 7 easy payments of $49.95 a month! And for an extra $10.00 a month, we won't even tell your church! All diddling, screwing, lying, or cheating can be removed from your heavenly record Now Now Now!"
Re:Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score:5, Insightful)
You know what they say: Small churches, big business.
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Re:Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score:5, Interesting)
RaptureNet
with pop-up ads that say, "Sinned too much? Stay out of Hell for just 7 easy payments of $49.95 a month! And for an extra $10.00 a month, we won't even tell your church! All diddling, screwing, lying, or cheating can be removed from your heavenly record Now Now Now!"
You joke, but I (as a long-standing atheist) am quite curious to see how a facebook-for-evangelicals turns out. There are many questions that could be answered by examining faceglory(sp?). For example,
Evangelising, by definition, needs the target party to be a non-believer; what happens when the entire audience are believers? When you are literally preaching the message to the choir?
What happens in an echo chamber of significant size? Is there some madness event horizon that occurs when too many people do more socialising on godnet than on internet?
What would this madness event horizon look like? Does the group fracture? Wage war on another christian group?
For individual participants, does it reinforce the belief, reduce the belief or not affect belief at all?
For group participants, does regular participation reinforce the group structure?
Will it lead to more orthodox religious beliefs of the participants, or will they mostly just be another group with a shared belief.
etc etc etc
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History says that a code language will emerge that people can use to get around the filters and censoring. People will start using it and in short order, the site will become infamous as a hotbed of sin and vice.
Nathaniel Hawthorne knew what he was talking about when he wrote that the worst sins are the ones committed in the most virtuous communities.
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My expectation is that it will be quickly overrun by trolls. Some of them non-Christians, but many of them Christian trolls pushing an extreme view and harassing others with it. The Bible is so contradictory that you can find a way to interpret some bit of it to support pretty much any point of view, and then batter your opponent over the head with it and scream about them burning forever in the fires of hell etc. The best part is that your opponent is full of self doubt and loathing so won't just dismiss y
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OTOH... A Facebook without my 37-years-old cousin's incessant stream of junior-high-grade nigger and peepee jokes might be a Facebook I wasn't embarrassed to belong to.
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The problem when you separate these people they will only be more extream, as well your side would get more extreme.
Taking out the invisible men, and magic trick religions are still based on philosophies thousands of years in the making, where there are people who job is to study these philosophies. Vs the non religious folk unless they are a full time philosopher (and we don't have many of those on payroll) most of us have a system of belief based on short term ideas and can change when a political party g
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The problem is that they tend to ignore the human rights of children in places like that. Cutting parts of their bodies off, refusing to give them a proper education, causing them mental illnesses with horrific stories and threats from X-rated books etc.
Children have rights and are not property. Religious people can do what they like, as long as their children's rights are respected.
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Atwood's Gilead? (Score:3)
I mean, if you're going to go full religious nutjob, might was well make your own country.
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You're obviously not familiar with the Cult of Reason [wikipedia.org] during the French Revolution or the Cristero War [wikipedia.org] in Mexico or the USSR anti-religious campaign [wikipedia.org].
Oh, you mean Christians haven't been persecuted here.
Well given the left's history, I'm sure they'll get around to it.
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No one is immune to the desire to persecute. In the US, today, the "liberal" LGBT crowd are persecuting those who don't wish to do business with them.
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Re: Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score:3, Insightful)
Ummm so what if they refuse service because their bigoted? I still occasionally, see stores with a "we reserve the right to refuse service for any reason". It's their right as a business owner.
If someone doesn't want to take your money in an honest transaction, go to someplace that will. I'm kinda on board with the idea that the LBGT crowd is engaging in a witch hunt with their newfound ascendency.
Re: Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score:2)
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Not really. Excluding someone from a restaurant they go by every day because of that person's race is a significant inconvenience for that person, yet serving black people isn't against anyone's reasonable interpretation of religious commandments. On the other hand, a baker who refuses to make a cake especially for a gay marriage causes a once-in-a-lifetime minor inconvenience for two people, yet participating in a gay wedding ceremony is very much against many people's reasonable interpretation of religi
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It was more than a little sad; it was wrong. Eich probably would have donated anonymously, but California didn't allow him to do so. Some assholes looked up his name on a government-published list and then just persecuted him for no reason other than they disagreed with his political views.
Those assholes are still gleefully twisting the knife. See here: https://twitter.com/hcatlin/st... [twitter.com]
If SJW is ever an accurate way to describe a group of people, it is an accurate way to describe the vindictive assholes
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Making decisions like that on a case-by-case basis is impractical. More over, even if it is only a minor issue for the person buying the cake at that particular moment, it becomes a bigger issue if they find that they can't have their wedding in their home town because no-one will rent them a suit/dress, the local hotels won't rent twin beds to same sex couples, the local caterers won't cater their reception party etc.
That's why anti-discrimination laws are universal. Individual incidents might not be so ba
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Even if they have to have the marriage in a larger city, that's still a once-in-a-lifetime inconvenience.
Your "case by case" basis statement doesn't really make sense -- a fair set of laws depends on recognizing the differences in different situations. But regardless, there aren't many cases here. The argument is basically whether gays should be a protected class. They're not at the federal level; they are in some states. The most-publicized result with those states' experiments so far is that a family
Re: Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score:4, Interesting)
participating in a gay wedding ceremony is very much against many people's reasonable interpretation of religious commandments.
Not, it's a blatant refusal to obey Jesus' extremely clear commandment:
"(...) whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. (...) Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; (...) And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?" (Matthew 5:39-47)
In other words, for the analogy-impaired, I'll rephrase the above:
"And whosoever shall compel thee to bake a cake, bake him twain."
"And whosoever shall compel thee to arrange them a bouquet, arrange them twain."
"And whosoever shall compel thee to take 100 photos, take 200."
And so on, and so forth.
Pretty clear, eh? Those refusing service to "sinners" aren't only breaking the law, and morals, and ethics, they are also themselves sinning against their God's will.
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On the other hand, a baker who refuses to make a cake especially for a gay marriage causes a once-in-a-lifetime minor inconvenience for two people, yet participating in a gay wedding ceremony is very much against many people's reasonable interpretation of religious commandments.
Why is it persistently and erroneously phrased that way?
No gay couple has ever asked a baker to participate in a professional capacity in a gay wedding ceremony. No straight couple has either. The participants in the ceremony are the betrothed, their seconds, by whatever name (I've attended at least one wedding with a brides-man up at the front), some sort of minister, and possibly a ring bearer and a flower child. Nowhere in that list is there a baker. Nor is there cake involved. Wedding ceremonies ar
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Such is already happening with say Fox News, and all media for that matter. Before we only had a few media outlets available who served a kind of generic middle-of-the-road view because they had to cater to a wide audience. Now people can easily choose to see and hear only what they want, and the news media is niche-ifying.
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I couldn't find any solid evidence of your Cronkite claims. It appears to be unverified hearsay.
But even if it were true, that's just one news person. There were hundreds of others. One data point does not make a case.
I would note that Cronkite was generally neutral early in the war, but came to the conclusion it was a bad idea after a few years of covering it almost daily, and stated his change of opinion publicly.
Good luck to them (Score:5, Interesting)
I can only prey (Score:2)
I can only prey that it gets rid of the religious zealots on Facebook.
Re:I can only prey (Score:4, Funny)
I don't think there's any reason to hunt them down.
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"Inconceivable!"
Oh, wait - the order is wrong, isn't it? Oh well, the reader should read bottom up
Seen this before. (Score:4, Interesting)
The 'Christian version' is a pretty common concept.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw... [tvtropes.org]
It'll fail, I expect, for the same reason that most social networks fail: They depend on users to draw users, so it's very hard to get them established. For every Facebook, there are thousand Orkuts.
Re:Seen this before. (Score:4, Informative)
Another POS website (Score:5, Informative)
Just registered. No verification whatsoever and it accepted "qwerty" as the password. No https. Not a far fetch to think this site commits other basic security faux pas, too. Easy prey for hackers.
How does shit like this get publicity? It looks like a first project for someone just starting in web development.
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You must be new here. Welcome to Dice where anything can be peddled for a buck or two.
IMHO, can't hurt to have multiple social networks. (Score:2)
It can't hurt to have multiple social networks. Maybe some agreement can be reached that user@socialnet1 can do messaging and interaction with user@socialnet2 [1]. This way, no cat or food pictures pictures go unmissed.
Even without interaction between them, just having an alternative to what is out there is a good thing.
[1]: Reinventing E-mail, IRC, and NNTP pretty much.
"On Facebook you see a lot of violence and porn" (Score:5, Insightful)
Hmmmm, really? They must be on a different FB, mine is filled with friends on vacation, pics of their kids, and kittens... lot and lots of kittens.
Sounds like they've been making a lot of effort into finding all this sinful porn and violence on FB...
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Sounds like they've been making a lot of effort into finding all this sinful porn and violence on FB...
Either that, or they have the wrong friends!
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You mean pictures of girls in swimwear right? You HEATHEN!
I would think it was the gays (Score:3)
What you see on FB reflects the kind of people you hang out with. My feed has been filled with God damned rainbows for two weeks.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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You must not be friends with George Takei.
Required link to an old "classic" (Score:2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Still makes me laugh...
Can we have one that bans silly bullshit? (Score:3)
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That's a problem with your friends, not intrinsic to Facebook.
FTFY (Score:2)
That's because they're your friends; it is intrinsic to Facebook.
I can see that as being every bit as successful (Score:2)
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I can see that as being every bit as successful as conservapedia [conservapedia.com]
There's an eye-opener (pun on faceglory unintentional). I liked the entry for Evolution - well, I would have if I had a Fffacebook account.
I'm guessing the FaceGlory crowd will have a banner sharing agreement with The Flat Earth Society [theflatearthsociety.org] (when the in-fighting between the various "true" FES groups ends), and Christian Porn [televictim.com] (you know - the good stuff).
"These Christian Fundamentalists want to get creationism taught in our science classes. I would have been all for it when I was in high school. - easy credits.
Evangelicals in a very Christian country (Score:2)
Forgive my cynicism since a founder of one very large group of that type near me has been revealed as being a pedophile on an industrial scale, setting up his group is such a way that he could get away with it on hundreds of occasions, and another group concentrated all of the wealth of it's members into the hands of one of the founders before they ended up in jail for it. Sometimes it's just about
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now you're beginning to understand how con-merchants and paedophiles work. They insinuate themselves into positions of trust with promises of oranges and sunshine (to borrow from the Transported Children scandal). Once there, they operate in plain sight with the full support and blessing of the community who, by now utterly blind to the abuse they're being put through... well, it's like boiling frogs while you empty their wallets and fuck their babies.
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After the fact one was called a "cult". The other still has some sort of functioning assembly of people now the monster than founded it is dead so not yet.
Go freedom ... (Score:2)
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touché.
You realise that as soon as they have this (Score:2)
Brazilian Evangelicals Set Up a "Sin Free" Version of Facebook
You realise that as soon as they have this they will be able to cast the first stone [biblehub.com].....
oh goody, yet another social networking site (Score:2)
for me to avoid.
domains (Score:5, Funny)
i'm surprised it's not called "faithbook.com"
"Sin free". Sure. (Score:2)
As someone who attended a Catholic school, a supposedly more morally safe choice than the public school system, I can assure you: there will be plenty of sinning going on here. Get your repression on enough, and you're going to see some backsliding.
And I mean, you're calling it "faceglory". That's a porn title if I ever saw one.
problem here... (Score:2)
Re:Blacklist, please! (Score:5, Informative)
No matter what language it is in, it is not in "Brazilian"
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+1 Intresting
but enough of a difference to warrant a whole new language instead of a variant as in "American English" or "Schwyzerdütsch". (While "Plattdeutsch" usually is classified as a language on its own)
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Re:Brazilian evangelicals are for cows. (Score:5, Funny)
Nonononono... Once again you've failed to localise properly. Try this:
Vocês todos são vacas. Vacas dizer mú. MÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚ! MÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚ! Múúúúú vacas MÚÚÚÚÚ! Múúúú dizer as vacas. VOCÊ VACAS!!
This instalment of I18n For Today's Active Troll presented as a public service of the Slashdot Network and this station.
"Sin free" easy to localize (Score:2)
Once again you've failed to localise properly.
If they really want it entirely sin free it will be easy to localize: a blank page is the same in any language.
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It's probably still better than my own translation...
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They have a surplus on their balance sheet WITHOUT the debt payments. So they don't need to borrow if they give the banks the finger. Unformtunately the EU citizens were made to pay for the banks once again.
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