Windows 10 Grabs 5.21% Market Share, Passing Windows Vista and Windows 8 246
An anonymous reader writes: The effects of a free upgrade to Windows 10 are starting to trickle in. Available for just over a month, Windows 10 has now captured more than 5 percent market share, according to the latest figures from Net Applications. In just four weeks, Windows 10 has already been installed on over 75 million PCs. Microsoft is aiming to have 1 billion devices running Windows 10 "in two to three years," though that includes not just PCs, but smartphones, consoles, and other devices as well.
To be expected (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:To be expected (Score:5, Interesting)
They are using their installed base of Windows computers as an advertising base now. Free always means the ad-filled version, and the version that tracks you and sells information about your surfing habits and preferences. I really hope that this is not the end of Windows as a basic, functional, user friendly operating system. It was never a perfect OS, but Windows 7 got many things right. Windows 10 got many, many things wrong.
An interesting take on the UI of Windows from Josh Fruhlinger at IT World, with many of today's must have's in an OS came from Windows 95, including aspects of OS X.
Link: http://www.itworld.com/article... [itworld.com]
Re:To be expected (Score:5, Insightful)
I really hope that this is not the end of Windows as a basic, functional, user friendly operating system. It was never a perfect OS, but Windows 7 got many things right. Windows 10 got many, many things wrong.
I sure hope it is the end of Windows as "THE" desktop OS in the minds of so many users. Ideally we'd have at least four or five operating systems in common use with roughly similar market shares and a strong emphasis on cross-platform compatibility for application developers so that jumping ship is as easy as possible. This would also provide a disincentive against all of the phoning-home behavior and other unwanted "features" increasingly common with Windows installations. It would also make malware propagation more difficult because the Windows monoculture just makes it too easy.
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Ideally we'd have at least four or five operating systems in common use with roughly similar market shares and a strong emphasis on cross-platform compatibility for application developers so that jumping ship is as easy as possible.
That is absolutely my ideal as well.
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Actually you can be tied to Windows by software. I have several very expensive programs, and I don't have any idea what I would do to replace those in a different OS without spending lots of money and even more time relearning different software than the programs I have used for years. Here is a partial list. Image Pro Plus by Media Cybernetics, Sigmaplot 12, MS Office Suite (2010), Adobe Creative Suite CS5 (I use photoshop, illustrator, premier pro, after effects, audition, flash and media encoder), Refere
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TBH I think you messed up using Reference Manager. Never put lots of effort into storing your data in a proprietary database, that's a setup for being screwed.
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Yeah, by today's standards I messed up. But I started that database when Reference Manager came out, in the early 1990s. There were not a lot of choices back then for citation software. Plus, for some time it was really the best citation software out there. Thompson Reuters bought them out to stop competition with Endnote. So I also have Endnote X7 which has a relatively simple conversion capability that takes about 10 minutes if I need to convert the whole 10K citation library, which has over 4000 associat
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Welcome to hotel microsoft, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
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From the users perspective they do not run an OS they run applications. The users could care less about all the trivial minutia and never ending arguments promoting one OS over another.
Re:To be expected (Score:5, Insightful)
Out in the real world, most people don't play games. They're more likely to be tied to Windows by tax software and the like.
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For businesses, sure. For private individuals, gaming is one of the main blockers for migration to other systems today, and it seems reasonable to assume that this one affects many, many more people than tax software. After all, which of (a) the PC gaming industry and (b) the PC personal taxation software industry makes so much money that even Hollywood is jealous?
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Yet I know way more people who run tax software on their PCs than games.
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The world is too big for personal anecdotes to be reliable in this context. None of us have a personal social circle that is a good representation of the general population in all things. That's why I was looking at industry-wide data: following the money is a neutral indicator.
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Commercial tax software is a US-only thing. Gaming is a worldwide market.
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That article is so much bull shit and ignorance.
First the entire section about 3.x being hard to use has not supporting evidence. Anecdotally I can't recall anyone being especially confused by anything specific to the win 3.x ui. I can totally recall people who we not used to navigating nested menus having a terribly frustrating time using the Start menu. Explorer was a lot nicer than winfile I'll give you that but the rest of the claims run so counter to my experience I'd love to see some stats or a rea
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When most people talk about Windows they are talking about WIN32. Stuff from before that is not relevant.
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They are using their installed base of Windows computers as an advertising base now. Free always means the ad-filled version, and the version that tracks you and sells information about your surfing habits and preferences.
The version that sends keyboard logs and microphone captures to Microsoft, you mean? That's ALL Windows 10 versions - none is unaffected.
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Windows itself is not ad filled, and the telemetry data has nothing to do with ads.
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Windows 10 shows ads in both the start menu tiles and the search menu results by default.
I have seen at least one "system notification" advertising Office 365.
Welcome to 2015.
Re:To be expected (Score:4, Interesting)
That install me button pissed me off at first but it's actually brilliant. I normally do the updates for systems around my house but when I went to upgrade my wife's laptop she said "Oh, I did that already. Just clicked the button. It was easy."
She's a smart person but upgrading the OS is normally outside her comfort level. They really did a nice job making the process not just easy but approachable.
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Imagine a situation where some of your sw doesn't run on win10.
the pushing of the upgrade is nothing but ridculous and they know it. every time after opening desktop (from sleep or power on) it pops up.
it says limited time but the time is 1 year.
it does not have a "don't show again checkbox". it's not meant as a free choice but as something normal users think they do not have a choice about.
Wait your turn. (Score:2)
They're giving it away free and they pushed a little "install me" button on current Win 7 and Win 8 installs. I'm actually surprised it's not higher. This 5% should be seen as a failure not a success.
The roll-out was always meant to move forward in manageable stages.
It was clear from the beginning that distribution to low-end tablets and other systems with very limited resources would be delayed.
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Free, yes, but its still being released in tranches to those systems eligible for upgrade, so not everyone that can upgrade has been able to do so thus far.
If everyone had had full access to the "upgrade now" button at launch, you might have a point, but right now its not any indication of a failure at all.
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This 5% should be seen as a failure not a success.
Agreed. A 5% adoption rate is nothing to brag about. Most companies would go out of business with numbers like that.
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5% adoption in one month is actually pretty fantastic, for such an immense market that is filled with enterprise users (whose IT departments need to train and prepare for rollout, and who do not get the upgrade for free).
For perspective, it took Apple around 3 years to sell a total of 75 million iPhones, and it was deemed a resounding success much earlier than that.
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5% adoption in one month is actually pretty fantastic, for such an immense market that is filled with enterprise users (whose IT departments need to train and prepare for rollout, and who do not get the upgrade for free).
For perspective, it took Apple around 3 years to sell a total of 75 million iPhones, and it was deemed a resounding success much earlier than that.
5% means that the QA department has a few systems set up, tests are failing all over, and actual deployment is a long ways off
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So you just drew a comparison between a device that costs above 600EUR to a free piece of software that was semi-automatically pushed on the current massive user base of windows 7/8?
How much alcohol did you have to ingest for that analogy to make any kind of sense?
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Folks here compared the uptake of Windows 8 (an OS which was not free to manufacturers or to people who upgraded) to Android (an OS that is free). I'm not allowed to make a similar comparison?
By what measure, success? (Score:2)
Despite the cries that people like Dunbal are just trolling, I think the parent comment is right on the mark. It would be difficult NOT to image Windows 10 not achieving at LEAST a 5% market-share when ALL of the installed copies of Windows 7 and 8 out there harass users to upgrade to 10 for free.
Not only that, but anyone looking a little deeper into the situation will discover:
- You only have 1 year to take advantage of this free Windows 10 offer, so putting it off means risking forgetting about it until
Review of Windows 10.. (Score:2)
Here's my review of windows 10.
I'm a long term Mac and Linux (and VMS and CPM!) user. I have always detested window. I have had to use it over the years and have formed a very very vlow opinion of it.
That said this is a very positive review of Windows 10.
But first let me start off with the truly awful back story. I bought a 2 year old HP quad i7 on which I planned to install a Linux, settling on Linux mint after trying out the latest distros for intuitive ease of use. But it came with Windows 8
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I guess I should have returned to my starting point. As good as windows 10 seems, the upgrade process is a major botch. Do I really want to get involved with products from a company that can't get that right. They should make all the managers at microsoft try to update a 2 year old unpatched windows 8 computer. How could this get overlooked!!! My machine was not slow nor was my interenet connection. And other than 1 hour I lost when their upgrade tool got squurley it took 7 hours to just make my mains
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Microsoft is aiming to have 1 billion devices running Windows 10 "in two to three years," though that includes not just PCs, but smartphones, ...
So that'd be 999,999,999,997 Windows PCs and three Windows smartphones?
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Now they are missing some important things like a package manager for installing software and centrally managing updates
Um, I thought Windows had that ages ago. It's not nearly as cool as the Linux ones (where you have command-line tools you can query the package database with to see what's installed, exactly which files are owned by each package, etc.), but in Control Panel there's an "Uninstall programs" selection where a lot of software is listed and can be uninstalled. Then, Windows Updates keeps that
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Unfortunately, Windows has trained users to expect to install software from all manner of different internet locations. I think that's the biggest flaw of Windows.
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Unfortunately, Windows has trained users to expect to install software from all manner of different internet locations. I think that's the biggest flaw of Windows.
I wouldn't say they "trained" them to do that (after all, they're trying to push their new Windows App Store and that's going over like a lead balloon), that's simply the way things evolved. When Windows first became popular, people didn't even use the internet with it. What we're seeing now is simply the culture that has evolved, and that cultu
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My understanding is that MS is working to integrate powershell based package manager tools like https://chocolatey.org/ [chocolatey.org] with Powershell 5.0.
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The problem with this idea is: how do you get all the ISVs to cooperate? It won't happen; they'd have to come up with some way for the OS to prevent 3rd-party software from installing itself the normal way, and force it to go through the package manager somehow. Or just create some kind of VM for every single application to keep them all separate and unable to change anything on the system, but that seems like it'll add a lot of overhead.
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This is one of the reasons Microsoft is building up its APPX package model to be compatible with Win32 apps (Project Centennial) in addition to the new universal apps which already use APPX.
The program will run in an virtualized/isolated environment based on App-V that keeps the program's files and registry keys separate from the rest of the system (even though the app thinks it is writing to real disk and registry locations). Install and uninstall works just like with universal apps, and when you uninstal
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The problem is Microsoft decided to trust the application to remove itself.
I don't think it's any different on Linux; if you run some crappy proprietary program's install script as root, it can do anything it wants. It's just a really different culture between the two OSes; Linux users generally don't use proprietary software at all, they get most of it from their blessed repos, and anything else is usually some other open-source program straight from the project page. Whereas on Windows proprietary softw
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Microsoft has gotten a lot right. Now they are missing some important things like a package manager for installing software and centrally managing updates, and the privacy stuff in 10 is a bit scary, but to say they never do anything successful is idiotic.
They sell a pretty decent keyboard.
Re:To be expected (Score:5, Informative)
There was some talk about creating a package manager / Windows Store a decade+ ago, but the idea got squashed pretty quickly for fear of more FTC/EU issues, so we don't have one. They have been taking baby steps into that direction with their Windows Store and universal apps, however, so we will see how that goes. Maybe in 5 years it'll come.
As you know, "But Linux and Macs do the same thing" apparently is no defense, because "they aren't a monopoly wielding power". So you get the shaft and can't have a package manager (or a default browser, or a music player).
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There is a package manager. https://chocolatey.org/ [chocolatey.org]
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But not a system default one.
As of Windows 10 (and soon previous versions with Windows Management Framework 5.0) there *is* a default one: OneGet - now just called "package manager". It is controlled through a PowerShell module. It is actually a package manager umbrella, as it can be used for a number of different package managers which can provide "providers" for PM and integrate that way.
Open a PowerShell prompt and type the following to reveal the commands of the PackageManager module
gcm -mod PackageMana
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As you know, "But Linux and Macs do the same thing" apparently is no defense, because "they aren't a monopoly wielding power". So you get the shaft and can't have a package manager (or a default browser, or a music player).
The existence of a package manager is not an issue. The way they run the manager and how they interact with people who wish to use it is the difference between proving a useful service and falling afoul of anti-trust laws. Even if Linux were a fully on monopoly their package managers wouldn't be an issue as they are fully open, don't have a high cost, and everyone is free to submit packages in the appropriate format and create repositories for others to use.
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F# is pretty nice, a modern functional first language, and it works pretty well.
Are there people who actually use F#??
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Are there people who actually use F#??
Yes, the phrase "F#?? this Microsoft S#??" is pretty common
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That's why I read slashdot, I learn new things all the time
Re: To be expected (Score:5, Informative)
Make that three, m$ finally pushed me over to kubuntu as a primary OS. I still maintain winblows at work, but I do so from my linux desktop (dual boot, but win 7 is way too slow).
I recently switched to running an Ubuntu variant on my old work laptop (top-of-the line from 2013), and running Windows as VirtualBox guest for stuff like MS Office and Windows development. Works very nice, all you need is enough memory and an SSD and a decent processor.
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I do the same (Ubuntu host, Win 7 VM). The only issue I have is that the win7 pro VM I have takes a very long time to boot up -- not sure if there is a way to speed it up. I only allocate 8Gb of RAM but it seems like that should be enough...
I'll have to try the playonlinux for office. I have been trying to get Evolution to work with the job's Exchange server without much success and maybe that would give me an alternative that would take me one step closer to ditching even the Windows VM I have...
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Don't worry, systemd will soon integrate with keylogctl and send all your porn browsing to Pothead.
It's open source and trivial to patch. And a distro which shipped something like that unpatched would be dead in a few days. Also it would result in immediate fork. Just observe what happened to MySQL and especially OpenOffice.
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be sure to put in Service Pack 6a or you'll have winsock issues
Misleading title - didn't pass Windows 8 (Score:5, Informative)
Windows 8 is at 14%, but split between 8 and 8.1.
I know Window 8 adoption is bad, but it's not *that* bad.
Re:Misleading title - didn't pass Windows 8 (Score:5, Interesting)
Following the "every other version of windows is bad" thing, I count Windows 8.1 as the most recent "good", replacing the "bad" Windows 8. That makes Windows 10 another bad version, which so far sounds accurate given the snooping problems.
Of course I used XP until support ended, still use 7, and never used Vista, 8, or 8.1, so my experience is limited.
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Of course I used XP until support ended, still use 7, and never used Vista, 8, or 8.1, so my experience is limited.
I try not to focus on any one operating system, my test server is Linux, my laptop is a mac and my gaming desktop is Windows.
My message is: If you're staying with 7 then you're missing out. 10 is going to be big.
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If you're staying with 7 then you're missing out. 10 is going to be big.
what exactly are folks missing out on other than the confusing start menu?
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Perhaps a shitty monochrome interface (seen the icons in Win10? They're just 2-color line art abominations.)
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If you're sticking to seven, you're missing out on massive privacy invasion, driver installation problems and myriad of other issues. But look on the bright side, it's awesome because it doesn't come with a dedicated anal probe.
So what *positive* things does Win10 offer? (Score:2)
10 is going to be big.
Why? Aside from the widely publicised problems, what actual positive things does 10 offer that previous versions didn't?
Cortana, like all the other personal assistant gadgets of recent years, seems very clever at first sight. However, I've seen little evidence so far suggesting that real users want this sort of tool or find these tools work well for them.
Edge seems to be unfinished and to have negligible adoption rates so far. This might change in time, but for now it seems to lack both the stability and re
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http://tech.slashdot.org/story... [slashdot.org]
MS isn't letting you get away that easily.
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Aren't those who have Win8 stuck on it? I read that the first Windows tablets (WinRT?) were stuck and had no upgrade path.
Of course - that would sting me. Assuming those devices are useful - I'd probably keep using it until it broke. Then buy something NON-Microsoft that had a history of long term support.
I like the new Windows (Score:2)
It always knows where I am, in case I get lost. It calls home, *I've fallen! And I can't get up!* Now, if they could just make it turn off a car's turn signal.
Only because it is free. (Score:3)
It would not have even a 5th of the uptake if it was not 100% free right now. Hell even illegitimate windows 7 installs become legitimate with a win10 upgrade applied to them.
Re:Only because it is free. (Score:4, Insightful)
That's not the whole story. Lots of OSs are free but don't have 5% market share. It helps that Win10 is a really good OS and is getting solid reviews.
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That's not the whole story. Lots of OSs are free but don't have 5% market share. It helps that Win10 is a really good OS and is getting solid reviews.
The OP was right:
Er... that's just NOT GOOD. I understand it's early days but for a FREE (in fact, in-your-fucking-face-you-will-have-this-whether-you-like-it-or-not) upgrade, that's just worrying."
Microsoft has been doing everything short of force upgrading Windows 10 without permission on their Windows 7/8 install base. I never gave them permission but they took advantage of "Automatic Updates" to install the Windows 10 Reservation ADWARE on my computer. I never made a reservation but again, Microsoft abused my trust and downloaded the Windows 10 upgrade bits to my computer anyway. How much longer until they just go ahead and trigger the update and force me to extricate myself fr
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I doubt we'll ever see numbers reported for people reverting but the way they're reporting numbers now is very different from the past. In the past we'd only get how many licenses were sold into the channel. These are confirmed installs which for an upgrade is huge. People (normals) almost never upgrade their OS. They almost always wait until they get a new system that just comes with the new OS. This is huge.
Mainstream media reviews are baffling (Score:2)
I do find the positive reviews of Windows 10 in a lot of popular media slightly confusing. The pattern always seems much the same:
It's free. It's better than Windows 8. It has some new features, but you probably won't use them. (Little if any recognition of any privacy, security, reliability or stability concerns.) BEST OPERATION SYSTEM EVERZ 11/10 UPGRADE NOW LOOKS UNICORNS AND RAINBOWS!!!!11!eleven!
I can understand mainstream media not being particularly technically literate, but how does anyone qualified to write a professional review plug things like being free and not as bad as the immediate predecessor that most people never bought as solid reasons to upgrade immediately? How do they not do one Google search and at least acknowledge that there have been some serious pro
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Tech journalism isn't really any better than regular journalism but when even people like David Pogue are grudgingly admitting that it's pretty good, that says something. Win8 clearly got a lot of things wrong. Win10 not only fixes them put moves things forward. Two of my systems are hybrid laptop / tablet things. The way Win10 easily moves back and forth between those two worlds is really great.
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It seems to me that Windows 10 moves some things forward if you have the right kinds of device to take advantage of it, but suffers from trying to treat widely differing kinds of device used for widely differing purposes as if they should all work the same way.
Incidentally, articles like this one by David Pogue [yahoo.com] are exactly the kind of thing I was mocking before, and I stand by that mockery. He summed up his own position quite neatly with this:
If you’re a PC veteran, then you’ll recognize Windows 10: It’s pretty much Windows 7, with Cortana, nicer typography, and a few new features.
Those new features seem to be at best hit-or-miss, though argumen
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Oh, I agree that Pogue is terrible. I've seen him use the terms memory and storage interchangeably too often to have much respect for the technical details of his work but he's been a fairly consistent MS basher / Apple fanboy for years now so to just see that he doesn't hate Win10 is a huge mile stone.
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Nope. I could afford to buy a Mac if I wanted one. My wife is free to get a Mac if she wants one. I could also use Linux if I wanted. I go back and try it again every few years to see how it's coming along. I stick with Windows because I like it better than the other options. Lots and lots (most) of people are just like me.
The little upgrade thing in the system tray is hardly in your face. It's no more noticeable than the Action Center flag yet I often see it with active messages and people just don't seem
Do they count rollbacks? (Score:5, Interesting)
I ran it for about 2 weeks on a laptop at home used for general browsing, but watching the logs on my firewall were crazy. I couldn't manage to track down all the different *-edge.net domains or other CDN endpoints they were using to relentlessly connect. You basically have to switch to whitelisting. My hosts block file picked up dozens of entries, but after realizing it'd be a never ending cat & mouse game I reverted back to Win7...Unless they stop this crap in a soon to be released patch we'll go back to being a Windows free home when win7 gets bothersome.
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I ran it for about 2 weeks on a laptop at home used for general browsing, but watching the logs on my firewall were crazy. I couldn't manage to track down all the different *-edge.net domains or other CDN endpoints they were using to relentlessly connect. You basically have to switch to whitelisting. My hosts block file picked up dozens of entries, but after realizing it'd be a never ending cat & mouse game I reverted back to Win7...Unless they stop this crap in a soon to be released patch we'll go back to being a Windows free home when win7 gets bothersome.
Just use this: https://github.com/10se1ucgo/D... [github.com] Along with some easily googlable additions to your HOSTS file. I've manged to get it down to just one site client.wns.windows.com (IIRC) it will try randomly the entire time but HOSTS seems to deal with it as well as it can be dealt with.
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The funny thing is that BITS is not supposed to do that, that is why it is called BITS.
Just bought my first Windows 10 box (Score:2)
I just bought my first Windows 10 box - a laptop for my mom. It's the first Windows 8+ cut that allowed me to use the "Start" menu like it should to be used: the place where you find your apps. After disabling all the "no privacy" stuff and some kind of bastard child from Clippy and Siri ("Contana" was it?) it was actually pretty solid. I could see this replacing Windows 8 outright...but I'm still not going to upgrade the Windows 8 tablet I have. (Maybe my wife's laptop.)
Re:Just bought my first Windows 10 box (Score:5, Informative)
Unless you're running Enterprise, it's not disabled and still spying on literally everything, including sending sound from the mic to Microsoft. I was going to list some links but I'm at work and don't have time. A little searching will show you the truth.
The US TLAs would like to thank you for your endorsement of global privacy death.
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Unless you're running Enterprise, it's not disabled and still spying on literally everything, including sending sound from the mic to Microsoft. I was going to list some links but I'm at work and don't have time. A little searching will show you the truth.
Perhaps you should do a little searching yourself. Perpetuating this sort of ill-informed FUD really isn't helping.
There are legitimate privacy concerns about Windows 10. There are also reasons for some of the behaviour, and settings that do turn some of the behaviour off. What we need to further this debate is facts, not hyperbole.
Re:Just bought my first Windows 10 box (Score:5, Informative)
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What I read: (Score:5, Insightful)
"Windows 2015 Grabs 5.21% Market Share, Passing Windows 2006 and Windows 2012 - majority of people still on Windows 2009 or maybe even Windows 2001".
Er... that's just NOT GOOD. I understand it's early days but for a FREE (in fact, in-your-fucking-face-you-will-have-this-whether-you-like-it-or-not) upgrade, that's just worrying. And nowadays volume licensing offer software assurance, and all kinds of things that make it as cheap to upgrade as to stay where you were.
And, still, it only just beats a 9 and 3 year old operating system and is DWARVED by a 6 year old operating system? It really suggests - as most of us know - that this isn't a forward step at all.
Yeah, early days, but testing etc. versions have been available for over a year. So far, our finance, banking, database and even interactive whiteboard software suppliers have notified us that we're just not supported on the new OS. We haven't even TRIED it properly, and people are already telling us we can't upgrade anyway (why they left it this late to announce that, that's another question entirely).
I work for schools and we're on SA, so we can get Windows 10 for the same price no matter what. I can't find a convincing reason to test it, going purely on what's in our email inbox, when developers have been able to test for a year now. I booted it up in a VM and tested Classic Shell still worked, that was about it.
I've had three members of staff ask me about Windows 10. The first, it broke their software. The second it was a new machine but our software wouldn't install because of the above incompatibilities (I chanced it to shut them up, but it just wouldn't go anyway). The third, it lost all their data (possible user-error but we'll never know now).
The only thing I've done about Windows 10 is block all the updates via WSUS that try to get our users to install it by popups and notifications masquerading as security updates.
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It trounces the latest OSX and the latest Linux. If their biggest problem is that they're competing with themselves there are worse problems to have.
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Exactly. The only people "adopting" Win10 are the ones who already get it free, or who are forced to accept it due to bundled contracts.
I'll wait for Windows 11.
Or the technologists who tested it and decided it was a step forward and would ride the bleeding edge rather than putting their heads in the sand.
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Have deployed Windows 8. Twice, actually, at two different workplaces. The "sign in with a Microsoft account"? Not a big deal. Ordinary imaging and group-policy processes block that before you even see an option for it. Really not anything to care about in the grand scheme of a rollout of hundreds of desktops. Additionally - if you want your people to use Office 365, etc. then you already have that to deal with anyway, so you just use Federated AD and it's - again - not an issue.
8 is perfectly busines
Considering its free (Score:3)
So what (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't give a damn if it grabbed 50% of whatever bullshit metric they claim to be measuring. Win 7 works for me and I'll probably use it until I'm literally forced to upgrade (i.e. lack of drivers, etc).
And then I'll switch to Linux.
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It is rather telling that you don't just switch to Linux now. It is free too after all...
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It ain't broke, don't fix it. I've worked with Win7 for a bit, and have to admit it works, and allows you to get what you want to do, done.
Just got myself a brand new laptop, got Win 10 on it (after an upgrade - dunno what it was before - instantly got frustrated by not being able to find my apps for lack of a Start menu or anything like it). It feels terribly broken. No software included other than a browser. Mail client only does MS-based mail, nothing else, and forces full screen with no way to window it
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You're the demographic that caused IE6. Latching on to one version and sticking your head deep up the ass, while shouting lalalalala... Seriously, just fucking upgrade to a decent modern OS. Move to a new Linux distro, or buy a new Mac, or upgrade to Windows 10. At this point, Win7 is just old and senile. And you using it indicates you haven't evaluated the new OSes and this is just your laziness talking.
Re: Long Live XP (Score:2)
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Command & Conquer 3. It complains about requiring Windows 98 or better to run.
Running the exe in compatibility mode gives the same error.
Oddly, C&C3: Kane's Wrath works fine.
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Except for the intrusive spyware features enabled by default, and who knows if published procedures for eliminating that really disable all of it? closed source == who knows what the heck it's doing?
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closed source == who knows what the heck it's doing?
Wireshark does, for a start.
The other question we should be asking in the context of Windows 10 is what it could do in the future, now that it has a mandatory update mechanism, given the various provisions as currently written in the EULA/privacy policy/etc.
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Wow. Opera is still around?
So Edge is more popular than... something I thought had died years ago.
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Reading a lot of horror stories about laptops losing wifi.
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Vista post SP1 was pretty much fine and much like win 7. The only reason 7 was released was to combat the tarnished name of vista.
I actually bought vista. Why? Because XP 64 bit was abandoned, and 64 bit os was needed because 4gb (often 2.5gb or even less) was not enough.
The scary thing it that there was a win 7 32 bit and beyond! People are idiots stop giving them a choice!
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And on my 2010 Core i3 laptop with 2GB RAM, it's mostly OK, but the Cortana stuff is a bit slow at times.