Moot Sells 4chan To 2channel Founder Hiroyuki Nishimura 88
An anonymous reader writes: A year after stepping down from the day-to-day running of the site following a mass user rebellion over moderation issues, Christopher 'moot' Poole has transferred ownership of the once nefarious 4Chan to 2channel founder Hiroyuki Nishimura. “Hiroyuki is literally the only person in the world with as much if not more experience than myself in running an anonymous, large destination community that serves tens of millions of people,” Mr. Poole said in an interview. “He’s the great-grandfather of all of this.”
First time I first hear of something on Slashot! (Score:5, Funny)
First time I first hear of something on Slashot!
Merge Math (Score:5, Funny)
That averages out to "3 Chan".
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You could add them together and get 6Chan, multiply and get 8Chan, divide and either get 1/2Chan, or right back to 2Chan, Dealer's choice!
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'4 to the 2nd' - four squared - sounds more appropriate... and the result is bigger.. so that's automatically 'better' right?
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Screw it, Let's just call it Jackie Chan.
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No, Hiroyuki provided some assistance to the owner of 8chan, but he doesn't own it.
commentsubjectsaredumb (Score:3)
Not that I'm saying "why is this news" but it doesn't seem like they should expect any dramatic changes just yet.
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Someone might have confused with 2chan (rather than 2 channel). Both japanese. 2chan copied the name from 2 channel.
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He didn't make a value judgement, /gg/'ers are so easily offended. I'll rephrase it a bit so your reply can at least be relevant for someone.
2chan seem to get bored faster so you don't get cringeworthy never-ending shitstorms like GamerGate coming out of it, which has managed to be an even more embarrassing mess of inflated self importance and myopia than Chanology.
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Aw, someone still thinks that GamerGate has anything to do with 4chan.
Here's a hint, pally, GamerGate is a name. That's all it is.
The corruption in video game journalism isn't new. This is an industry where the only journalism published about it used to be by the console manufacturers themselves. The issue is that it never grew past it. Now we have private publishers taking underhanded deals from developers. The incident that coined the name GamerGate is just one of them.
GamerGate is just a new name for an
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4chan now is an anti-Japan meme-hating shitposter site filled with anonymous cowards.
On /b/, yes. And worse. Much worse. Like pretty sick worse. But not so much on the other sub boards. There can be some pretty interesting discussions on those. And I'm not so sure there's a down side to hating memes.
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/v/ is not 4chan.
anonymous ? not so much (Score:4, Insightful)
Last time Hiroyuki Nishimura was involved in managing an "anonymous" board he ended up selling the its users data.
Re:anonymous ? not so much (Score:4, Informative)
Here's a basic summary of this guy and the events around 2ch:
2014 2ch takeover incident
-In 2012 the rights to 2ch were given to Jim at Racequeen Inc. Hiroyuki announces he is no longer the admin of 2ch, but still remains the defacto admin behind the curtains .
-2ch ran a service where anons payed approx 35 US dollars so they could post on 2ch if they were banned or couldn’t post because of their ISP (similar to the 4chan pass)
-this service helped pay for the server fees
-August 2013, the service gets hacked. Those who registered to the service had their names, address, credit card numbers/security codes leaked. comment info was also leaked, people were able to search the 2ch archives and find out who posted what using the leaked comment info.
-It was also discovered that Hiroyuki was sending other personal info of posters to companies outside of 2ch.net
-After the hacking incident Hiroyuki is unable to pay for the server fees because the 2ch pass service was shutdown.
-On April Fools day Hiroyuki announces that 2ch is being taken over.
-The leader of the coup Jim fires the janitors, sizes down operations, upgrade the servers, and improve other things to accommodate the anons who were neglected under the Hiryoku administration.
-Jim becomes the new admin of 2ch.net
-Hiroyuki retaliates by creating a new anonymous message board 2ch.sc. 2ch.sc is just a clone of 2ch.net. It literally copies and pastes all the posts on 2ch.net to its message boards.
2ch.sc allows thread simulator blogging (copy paste blogs) which have been a problem in the past and were outlawed on 2ch.net
Why did hiroyuki create 2ch.sc ?
Hiroyuki (Mirai Kensaku Brazil) had signed a contract with a data mining company named Hotlink and sold them the personal data / user comments from 2ch.net.
-After the server take over by Jim, and the fact that Hiroyuki no longer had the rights to 2ch.net, he was no longer able to give the data mining company the data, so he created the clone 2ch.sc to fulfill Hotlinks contract.
-Since it wasn’t a contract with Racequeen (Jim) , Jim stops the servers from sending the user comment data and other personal info to hotlinks servers. He also prevents hiroyuki’s 2ch.sc from copying comments by blocking its requests.
-Anons of 2ch discovers that Hiroyuki also had money ties with the thread simulator bloggers who were racking thousands from PPC ads and advertising by laundering comments from 2ch
Hiroyuki didn't just sell user information, he encouraged janitors to ban posters so they would purchase more passes to get around the bans, and he had certain political viewpoints censored and banned after being paid to do so.
I can't imagine /pol/ existing for very long under Hiroyuki, and the already rampant viral/guerilla marketing taking place on /v/, /vg/, and /g/ is probably only going to get worse.
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Disclaimer: I was briefly involved in the management of 2ch.sc.
This summary is at least unfair if not quite inaccurate. Hiroyuki's claim back then was that he paid a substantial amount of money to cover the costs of the servers, but Jim demanded more. Also, there is no evidence that Hiroyuki sold user data. He was just selling the right to use publicly available data for data-mining.
It was rather sad to see that people are bashing Hiroyuki based mostly on FUD like this "summary." I lost much of my inter
Seriously (Score:1)
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Except 4chan at its best was decisively brilliant and funny. It was one of the last bastions on the web of the old BBS days, and it was amazing the sense of community you could build from anonymous posts. It was one of the last strongholds against the corporatization of the web.
And it was also mismanaged at nearly every turn, like most popular websites, forgetting it was little more than a platform for its users. Moot started towards self-aggrandizement with the publicity 4chan got and killed off most thing
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If you want to feel old, consider that that was like 15 years ago, as old as the kids on 4chan WERE at the time.
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Also, you're wrong. What was cool about 4chan is that it is anonymous. "Management" is the opposite of anonymous.
Then it got too popular and lost the advantage of a quirky culture and became whatever random American teens are, which is still a bit interesting to see unconstrained by identity.
can you imagine the harassment? (Score:4, Interesting)
moot was probably harassed in ways us mere mortals couldn't even dream of
i would have sold too. anyone would have
most angry users probably protested moot's new moderation in acceptable ways
but, being 4chan, a sizeable amount probably protested in ways we don't even want to know human beings can treat each other short of actual violence
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in the gamegate/ fappening thing moot started moderating/ censoring more, and there was a huge blowback
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LOL
Now if only (Score:2)
Dice would sell /. to someone who actually understands it.
Re:Now if only (Score:5, Funny)
Don't worry . . . as soon as Dice understands what /. is all about . . . they will sell it . . .
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If they can find a buyer. I thought I heard they were already looking.
I have a nice shiny nickel. (Score:2)
Email me :p
I'm guessing that /pol/... (Score:2)
All trolling (Score:2)
I'm pretty sure there is no person named "Christopher Poole"
The name is a combination of 4chan jokes too unpc to even print, one racist and one to do with child porn.
I was wondering .... (Score:2)
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4 Chan is gonna be destroyed. You guys don't know wha he did to 2 Chan
Permalink please (Score:1)