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Samsung Launches Business Unit To Focus On Driverless Cars (koreatimes.co.kr) 37

An anonymous reader writes: South Korean electronics giant Samsung has announced a new focus on developing driverless cars and infotainment systems in its attempt to compete with domestic rival LG in the automobile arena. The chip and smartphone company has placed executive VP Park Jong Hwan at the front of the push. The project will combine efforts from various technology units, including battery maker Samsung SDI and software service provider branch Samsung SDS. The sector is an opportunity to make up for Samsung's declining television sales, and a slowing smartphone business which is struggling to compete with fresher, cheaper models in China and India.
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Samsung Launches Business Unit To Focus On Driverless Cars

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  • by Spy Handler ( 822350 ) on Wednesday December 09, 2015 @01:23PM (#51089533) Homepage Journal

    If any country needs driverless cars, it's Korea. If you think American roads are full of drunk drivers and aggressive douchebag drivers who ignore rules of the road, you haven't been to Korea.

    And I say that as an ethnic Korean.

    • If you think American roads are full of drunk drivers and aggressive douchebag drivers who ignore rules of the road, you haven't been to Korea.

      I've been to China and much of Southeast Asia and frankly most US drivers are pretty tame and rule abiding by comparison. I've been to a number of places where the traffic signals and lines on the road are merely suggestions that are routinely ignored. I haven't been to Korea but I can't imagine it is worse than India or some parts of China.

      • I've been to China and much of Southeast Asia and frankly most US drivers are pretty tame and rule abiding by comparison.

        Other than Japan and Western Europe, pretty much anywhere in the world has worse drivers than America. Some places in Africa and the Middle East have 10 times the deaths per mile driven. But even Japan and Western Europe are not directly comparable to America, since a lower proportion of their population drives. Many of the people taking public transit are likely the worst drivers, and in America, where public transit is rarely a realistic option, those people are behind the wheel.

        I once saw a pedestrian

    • by rsborg ( 111459 ) on Wednesday December 09, 2015 @02:36PM (#51090019) Homepage

      If any country needs driverless cars, it's Korea. If you think American roads are full of drunk drivers and aggressive douchebag drivers who ignore rules of the road, you haven't been to Korea.

      And I say that as an ethnic Korean.

      Whatever. Try south India - like in Chennai, you have any of the given on a road at any given time: cars, busses, mopeds, rickshaws, auto-rickshaws, motorcycles, bikes, pedestrians crossing randomly, farm animals crossing randomly, and street peddlers aggressively soliciting motorists (esp. when traffic crawls).

      Additionally, it's accepted that traffic rules are best treated as "suggestions" or "recommendations", it's perfectly commonplace to see motorcycles, cars, mopeds, and the like veer into oncoming traffic on the other side to pass (I've seen a bus do this occasionally also).

      It amazes me every day that more people don't die in this manifestation of primal chaos.

  • by turkeydance ( 1266624 ) on Wednesday December 09, 2015 @01:25PM (#51089549)
    no need to innovate
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Well done smartphones, well done. Now we only have to make these coffins on wheels secure.

  • Remember the days when every typewriter, toy, cereal company made their own PC? I would not be surprised to see a Cheerios driverless car soon.

    • by godrik ( 1287354 )

      Except samsung is already pretty much on that market.

      Samsung is a huge company that produces electronic, cellphone, dishwashers, but also airplanes, tanks, battleships, ...
      So whatever they do in the self driving car domain will probably be repurposable in their military business.

    • Yeah, and everyone is going to cause the same class of problems, have the same kinds of failure modes and corner cases, and they're all going to throw their hands up in the air and say "oh, I have no idea what to do, you drive meat puppet".

      In the early 80s everyone was working against a fairly well described architecture for the PC, and ultimately used the same parts or licensed fabrication of their own piece.

      For a driver-less car system, having a bunch of companies develop these and hope they work feels li

    • Driver-less cars is an R&D money pit with no chance of return on investment. I would hope companies know this, but they too afraid to let another company get ten years ahead on the technology and achieve total domination when the driver-less nut finally cracks in 2035 when there will finally be any possibility to sell enough volume to turn a real profit. IMHO.

      • Driver-less cars is an R&D money pit with no chance of return on investment.

        The global car market is worth $2 Trillion per year. Spending on self-driving R&D is less than 0.1% of that. If anything, this is an area with severe underinvestment, especially by established car manufacturers.

        when the driver-less nut finally cracks in 2035 ...

        Are you serious? Tesla Autopilot is already available to consumers, and does 80% of what you expect a SDC to do. Bumping that up to 90%, 95% ... is a software upgrade. By 2017 you may still need to manually drive on dirt roads, but cars that are 99% autonomous will be available.

        By 2035, manu

        • by Kjella ( 173770 )

          Are you serious? Tesla Autopilot is already available to consumers, and does 80% of what you expect a SDC to do. Bumping that up to 90%, 95% ... is a software upgrade. By 2017 you may still need to manually drive on dirt roads, but cars that are 99% autonomous will be available. By 2035, manually driven cars will be banned from public roads.

          No. Not even close. There's so many roads with crappy or no road markings or hidden by mud or snow, it doesn't obey even a tiny fraction of the road signs or rules of the road, at best it might manage an emergency stop through collision detection if you let it run through a pedestrian crossing by itself. It's entirely in the blue if it has sensor capability or processing capability to do more, Musk at least publicly admitted that it clearly doesn't have the redundancy. Basically if one sensor goes bad or br

          • There's so many roads with crappy or no road markings or hidden by mud or snow

            The way that Tesla handles this, is to collect the GPS data of other Teslas that have driven the same road. If you drive down a road a dozen times, then it has enough data to know where the lane is, regardless of mud or snow. That is a more redundant and reliable algorithm than a human driver has. Please note: this is technology that is already working and available to consumers.

  • but they will have curved glass. counts for something.

  • An entertainment device does not need and has no business being integrated into the driving computer.

    Doing so is a HUGE security risk.

    Any device designed to entertain/inform/communicate with the humans inside the vehicle should be air-gapped away from the controls of the driverless car.

    We do not want to let a bug/feature of the entertainment system be used to hack the driving software.

    Nor do we want the human's downloading of 25 movies for their cross country trip to someway use up resources/bandwith t

  • by MiniMike ( 234881 ) on Wednesday December 09, 2015 @03:40PM (#51090691)

    They're going to have a problem using their favorite name, since Ford already came out with a Galaxy model.

    Personally, I would wait for the Note SUV anyway...

  • Samsung: Americans like being made stupid and it is profitable!

  • It will cost a fortune, need to recharge every hour or two, and despite its advanced navigation system, not be able to detect that an obstacle is too low to pass through underneath without getting stuck?

    Oh wait, I'm thinking of that robotic vacuum thingy....

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