Tesla Will Have Self-driving Cars In Just Two Years, Elon Musk Boldly Declares (fortune.com) 172
An anonymous reader writes: In a new interview with Fortune, outspoken Tesla CEO Elon Musk said the electric automaker is just two years away from developing fully autonomous vehicles that can operate ably and safely in any type of environment. While Musk has long championed an automotive age filled with self-driving cars, this is the most optimistic timeline for their deployment we've seen Musk make yet. In fact, Musk in 2014 said the requisite technology to manufacture a self-driving car was still about five to six years away. "I think we have all the pieces," Musk said, "and it's just about refining those pieces, putting them in place, and making sure they work across a huge number of environments—and then we're done. It's a much easier problem than people think it is."
Still riding the high (Score:2)
Re:Still riding the high (Score:5, Interesting)
The google cars are driving themselves already now. One could easily just replicate the technology they use and get those things onto the streets, right now. But it would be extremely risky, because google drives them in a fairly controlled environment, and the number of accidents that will happen will multiply by a large count. The question is whether one should start throwing a technology onto the markets when its still incomplete and not polished, or whether one should wait some years before that is possible.
When you launch rockets, you have fairly moderate risk connected to it. Yes, money can burn, but unless you have manned missions, no human will get harmed. Most rocket launches don't have humans on board. Cars on the other hand drive so that they can transport humans. Many cars also drive to transport cargo, but even if they drove without human oversight, they would still be on roads populated by cars with humans. So the risk connected is far higher for cars. Also, with rockets, the astronauts chose themselves if they want to become astronauts, and live with the risk of dying in a rocket accident. But with cars, you can't chose if a self driving car is with you on the street.
We should do what the AC in the rocket launch story suggested: wait until the first service pack is out. We shouldn't throw an immature technology on the market.
Also, one has to talk about software updates for self driving cars. Almost every hardware stops getting software updates by their manufacturer at some point. You can't have cars with EOLed firmware driving on the streets. Nobody should make money by selling security improvements that just mean to flip a switch.
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Also, one has to talk about software updates for self driving cars. Almost every hardware stops getting software updates by their manufacturer at some point. You can't have cars with EOLed firmware driving on the streets.
Cars with EOLed firmware will not be allowed on the street, you will have to buy a new car. Yay for planned obsolescence.
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and that will fail and lead to a big waste issue as well.
Re:Still riding the high (Score:5, Insightful)
"But with cars, you can't chose if a self driving car is with you on the street." I already can't choose if drunks, teenagers, and idiots are on the street with me -- I'll take self-driving cars over at least half the drivers I see every day. Self driving cars would be easy to be on the road with -- predictable, not distracted, and no road rage.
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The google cars are driving themselves already now. One could easily just replicate the technology they use and get those things onto the streets, right now. But it would be extremely risky, because google drives them in a fairly controlled environment, and the number of accidents that will happen will multiply by a large count. The question is whether one should start throwing a technology onto the markets when its still incomplete and not polished, or whether one should wait some years before that is possible.
Well, except technology doesn't age like a fine wine. It won't be mature technology before it has lots of real world testing and a lot of developers have worked on it for a long time to work out the bugs, both of which involve bringing a product to market and getting a cash flow going. Google's approach has been the Big Bang, when it's <agile>Done</agile> the car will drive itself and until then it will be a lab project doing controlled experiments. Tesla's approach has been to put it out there
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It won't be mature technology before it has lots of real world testing and a lot of developers have worked on it for a long time to work out the bugs,
the self driving cars where I was involved in making automated tests for the software: already have over a million miles of autonomous driving on public roads! So what do you want more? Which bugs?
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We shouldn't throw an immature technology on the market.
You are something like 15 - 20 years behind "state of the art".
Basically every majour car company already has self driving cars. BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Toyota ... no idea about that backward country that proudly proclaims itself "gods own country".
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We shouldn't throw an immature technology on the market. You are something like 15 - 20 years behind "state of the art".
Basically every majour car company already has self driving cars. BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Toyota ... no idea about that backward country that proudly proclaims itself "gods own country".
The cars available now are only self driving up to a point. You can't sit in one, tell it to take you to work, and fall asleep, unless your home and work are connected by a clear motorway.
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You can't sit in one, tell it to take you to work ...
Yes, you can.
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It is not that easy to replicate Google approach as as far as I heard they try to map every rock on the street in advance. To replicate it nationwide it would take a lot of resources only Google has so far.
Insurance companies may be willing to underwrite liability insurance though anyway if it is not perfect but incident rate matches average driver on the street including drunks and raging & racing idiots.
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Elon is apparently still riding the high of Falcon 9 success, a feat which while absolutely amazing, pales in complexity to self-driving cars.
Ummm...I kinda doubt that. One of their engineers did the math and found that it was just like trying to launch a really fragile pencil over the empire state building and then have it land on a moving shoe box in heavy wind. NOT a trivial thing to do. Hell, most people couldn't even figure out how to make the pencil actually launch.
I think the really, truly, absolutely hardest part of making self driving cars a reality is the politics. Why? Because people worry about everything from skynet to "think of the
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I don't have those concerns, but I will not drive a car that reports back my location at all times. When a fully automated vehicle exists that works without the constant phoning home then I'll be interested. If that never happens so help me I'll walk before I give up my liberty. I trust the computers to get me there safely, but I don't trust the people behind them with that level of surveillance.
It must be a nightmare working with you, as you'll obviously be constantly on the move, never stay in the office for more than a few minutes at a time and refuse to reveal your home address or phone number to anyone.
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You can throw all the algorithms you want at it but you will always find the one drunk guy who's driving backwards down a one way street.
Although I don't believe we're anywhere near having autonomous cars, in this example you'd probably get just as much damage with human-driven as computer-driven cars.
Time to buy Tesla stock (Score:2)
Time to purchase some Tesla stock.
Every time Musk says something positive about Tesla in a public forum, the stock jumps higher, usually in the $12 to $15 range. Then slowly goes down again over the subsequent 2 weeks.
Look to see a big jump around Monday, after everyone has done with the holidays and logs into their stock accounts over the weekend.
Just 'sayin...
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In line with Google's plans (Score:4, Interesting)
As I recall, Google has been saying for while that they'd have something ready by 2017. On the one hand it seems like it should be surprising if Tesla manages to make it to market at the same time, since they got a much later start. On the other hand, it probably shouldn't surprise us if multiple companies get there at about the same time, since it's less about the cleverness in building the system than it is about having all of the fundamental technological pieces to do it. In particular, I think deep learning neural networks are the core technology that will make effective fully-autonomous cars feasible (plus the sensors, but those have been available for years), and to a large degree the whole world got access to that theory and practice at about the same time.
What is surprising to me is that we haven't heard more from the likes of Freightliner. IMO, that is the first really major market for self-driving vehicles, and those don't even need to be fully autonomous. If tractor-trailer rigs can just drive themselves on the freeway, freight companies can immediately get rid of 90% of their drivers and massively reduce their costs, by having a human drive the truck to the freeway then hop out and let it travel to the destination city, where another human will drive it through town to its destination. Plus, given the price of a semi tractor, adding $50K or even $100K for an automation suite is a relatively small incremental cost, while it's a rather large chunk of change for a passenger vehicle.
(Disclaimer: I work for Google, but not on self-driving vehicles and I don't know any more about the status of Google's system than what is in the public press.)
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What is surprising to me is that we haven't heard more from the likes of Freightliner.
Mercedes has always been risk-averse. They're not afraid to cram a lot of fancy technology into their S-Class cars, but most of it is well-proven long before they shove it in there anyway. Meanwhile, they mostly do things the old way and let other companies take the risks. Freightliner has only announced plans for driver assistance so far, and no full autonomy.
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What is surprising to me is that we haven't heard more from the likes of Freightliner.
Mercedes has always been risk-averse. They're not afraid to cram a lot of fancy technology into their S-Class cars, but most of it is well-proven long before they shove it in there anyway. Meanwhile, they mostly do things the old way and let other companies take the risks. Freightliner has only announced plans for driver assistance so far, and no full autonomy.
Well, whichever of the truck manufacturers gets there first -- Mack, Peterbilt, Kenworth, Volvo, etc. -- is going to do a great business. Long haul trucking is just begging for automation.
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Well, whichever of the truck manufacturers gets there first -- Mack, Peterbilt, Kenworth, Volvo, etc. -- is going to do a great business. Long haul trucking is just begging for automation.
I agree, but the problem is the states. Unless the Federal government forces them to fall in line somehow, each one is going to regulate self-driving vehicles differently (as they are now) and make it basically impossible for fully automated long-haul trucking. That's one reason why Freightliner hasn't gone all in. (I watch Autoline This Week... if you're interested in this stuff they're probably the best English-language source for industry discussion, and it's free.)
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Even a 'Tesla Auto Pilot' like feature would probably be a huge win for long haul trucking. Its just a fact long hours on the interstate means most of our minds wonder to thing that are not driving. Now that the technology exists it should be reasonably in expensive to implement and deploy on new vehicles. Seems like for a firm operating even a moderate number of rigs the added cost of having the feature would pay for itself if it prevents even a few highway accidents related to inattentiveness or a dro
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Well, whichever of the truck manufacturers gets there first -- Mack, Peterbilt, Kenworth, Volvo, etc. -- is going to do a great business.
They are all there already. Especially as they buy equipment from the same providers. It is basically just a few years till legislations are adapted and then off hey go.
The title is an over simplification (Score:4, Informative)
More context:
“We’re going to end up with complete autonomy, and I think we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years.” That doesn’t mean city streets will be overflowing with driverless Tesla vehicles by 2018 (coincidentally, the company’s Model 3 should be on roads by then). Musk expects regulators will lag behind the technology. He predicts it will take an additional year for regulators to determine that it’s safe and to go through an approval process. In some jurisdictions, it may take five years or more, he says.
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yep. Adding lobbying power and helping new regulations come into place is the other reason why Tesla wants to cooperate with the established motor industry players. Selling batteries is just one part of the story.
When did he say the 40K car will be shipped? (Score:3)
Anyway congrats on landing Falcon rocket. So yeah, he over promises and under delivers. But even his under delivered stuff is way too awesome.
Re:When did he say the 40K car will be shipped? (Score:4)
Model E or whatever he called it, an electric car with some 200+ mile range under 40K. When did he say it would ship?
Model 3. Late 2017. I really doubt it will be self-driving, though. I'm sure they'll start with the high end for the new features.
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My point was, that model has slipped a lot in the promised delivery date. 2017, eh? Advance booking open?
Even if it comes by 2018 it'll likely still beat everyone else to market. And if he's full of shit but he spurs someone else on, then good on 'im I say.
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GM Bolt will be 1st to market since it's supposed to be on sale Q4 2016
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Model 3 reveal is promised for Mar 2016 with immediate reservations. How much money you'll have to put down hasn't been stated but it's probably ~$2k
And they'll fly! (Score:3)
That's enough, Elon. Take a break. (Score:3)
Can someone please give Elon Musk a smack? He's just trolling us now.
Not the same (Score:2)
"Tesla Will Have Self-driving Cars" is very very very far from "Tesla Will Have Self-driving Cars that are approved to sell to the public"
Yeah sure (Score:3)
Can it to tell that the man in front is a cop giving hand signals (and obey those signals) as opposed to some crazy person? Can it know not to stop for a potential carjacker? Can it read road diversion signs? Can it read temporary speed restrictions and roadwork signs? Can it negotiate a crossroads where the lights are out in a way that gives priority and due consideration to other drivers? Can it navigate in a long tunnel, double decker road, multi story carpark or other areas that have no GPS signal? Can it tell the difference between a bus which has stopped to pick up passengers, as opposed to a bus which has broken down and needs to be passed? Can it operate when rain or snow are impeding its sensors? Can it tell the difference between a pothole and a puddle? Can it tell the difference between a plastic bag blowing by and a child running across the street and react appropriately? Can it tell the difference between pedestrians waiting to cross vs those standing with no intention of crossing?
I bet there are a LOT of situation that neither Tesla vehicles or any others can be trusted to operate properly. I expect they'll do fine on motorways and certain predictable lengths of urban road. I expect they'll be so annoyingly bad in cities and towns that they'll be turned off or they'll be the cause of accidents.
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Can it to tell that the man in front is a cop giving hand signals (and obey those signals) as opposed to some crazy person? Can it know not to stop for a potential carjacker?
Can a human?
Can it read road diversion signs? Can it read temporary speed restrictions and roadwork signs?
yes and yes. can humans deploy them correctly?
Can it negotiate a crossroads where the lights are out in a way that gives priority and due consideration to other drivers?
Yes, probably better than humans. Odds are its major problem will be getting across the street, not giving consideration to others.
Can it tell the difference between a bus which has stopped to pick up passengers, as opposed to a bus which has broken down and needs to be passed?
There is no difference, unless it is a school bus, and then it has flashing red lights which are easy to detect. It would be nice if the human bus driver could use the signals correctly, though. Both lights flashing means "go around me" and the laneward light flashing means "I am about to make a turn" but many bus drivers
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What humans are terrible at are reaction speeds and behaving to abnormal emergency events such as a skid or a tyre blowing out. A car equipped with monitoring and emergency collision avoidance would be a far more wor
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Can it tell the difference between a plastic bag blowing by and a child running across the street and react appropriately?
Again, with the right sensors, it can do it better than you can... in the dark, anyway. You don't have any senses which measure density.
Humans don't need senses to measure density. We can tell whether it's a plastic bag or a child quite easily. And in the dark, we tend to have our headlights on.
Can it tell the difference between pedestrians waiting to cross vs those standing with no intention of crossing?
Can a human?
Er, yes. We can.
Some of your answers read like an alien robot who is confused by us imperfect meatbags.
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Can it to tell that the man in front is a cop giving hand signals (and obey those signals) as opposed to some crazy person?
What would be the difference? Would you run over the crazy person? On what legal base?
Can it know not to stop for a potential carjacker?
Likely not, can you?
Can it read road diversion signs?
Yes, why should it not?
Can it read temporary speed restrictions and roadwork signs?
Of course, that is state of the art, and all high end german cars already have that built in. I guess most other E
oh boy car sitting (Score:2)
Good. There have been too many glazed-eye douches in Tesla who have nearly run me down in crosswalks. This does not, alas, mean that American car sitters of other vehicle types are really any better at not running down pedestrians, but when you've built a mostly survivable car hell, what can one expect?
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So you mean the Tesla drivers aren't paying attention because the car is too quiet or that YOU are not paying attention because you can't hear the car?
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If he means he is willing to accept full liability for any and all problems that's one thing. But I doubt we will have autonomous cars that can replace drivers in anything but freeway and some limited pre mapped city driving situations any time soon.
if he's willing to sell a car as "self driving" and accept liability for its driving, then that car had better be able to handle all driving conditions, or Tesla won't survive long under all of the liability lawsuits.
It's difficult for computers to solve visual captchas humans solve easily, likewise humans navigate better than computers today with far inferior sensors.
It often takes me several tries to complete a Capcha, while Google says that they've got AI that can solve their own capchas:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4... [theverge.com]
Will they take on criminal liability as well? (Score:2)
Will they take on criminal liability as well? and with that you can't hide under some EULA also a EULA will not cover a 3rd party victim.
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criminal neglect and when that bus full of kids get's hit the local Sheriff's will want some one in jail.
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criminal neglect and when that bus full of kids get's hit the local Sheriff's will want some one in jail.
Oh, I thought you meant if the car was used by a hitman to provide a deniable form of murder weapon.
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I don't know why that should imply any particular degree of surprisingness. Cryptography is all about algorithms that are relatively simple, but which don't have simple (or at least, no known simple) reversing algorithms.
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Hmm. Why don't they crowdsource autonomous cars then? Just have millions of people in third-world countries paid pennies an hour deciding whether your car should speed up or slow down. If it's the best way to solve captchas, what could possibly go wrong?
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Are you sure we can duplicate a housefly. Are you sure you're not thinking of fruit fly? (which are admittedly, probably more common in households than the house fly...)
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... That's likely what you would need to outperform a human with similar sensory input.
And that's where we disagree. Humans are impatient, short-sighted, inattentive, and panicky. A computer isn't. It's patient, and always pays attention. Yes, humans are extraordinary at sensory input processing (well, for the parts they are looking at), but that's only part of the pipeline. There have been great advances in image processing in the past couple of years. Further, the computer gets input from more directions at once. Combine that with flexible decision making (and complete attention to
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In a couple of years, it will be better across the board.
You're begging the question.
No one is denying that if there is a huge leap forward in AI in the next two years then autonomous cars could work.
and needs say at least 5-8 years free updates / ha (Score:2)
and needs say at least 5-8 years free updates for software / hardware swaps if needed for the auto drive system / safety parts of it.
We do not need after one year want X fixed buy a NEW CAR.
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"drivers in anything but freeway and some limited pre mapped city driving situations any time soon."
I imagine that they can do a bit better than that. e.g. navigate a parking lot on a "If it isn't moving steer around it and if it is moving wait for it to get out of the way" basis. But they are going to get stuck occasionally and need a bit of help -- which is why they'll need a driver on board who is capable of making decisions.
Overall, I agree. It'll surely be a decade or three before autonomous cars ca
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Humans who don't operate machinery loose skills to do it inevitably. It is already happening with airliners, from time to time pilots get confused with simple things when autopilot disconnects, even if they are supposed to receive simulator training. E.g. Air France flight over Atlantic, autopilot disconnected and pilot was unable to keep plane going at constant speed and pushed up until it went into stall. Or Korean plane hitting seawall in CA in perfect weather just because some autolanding system was off
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Re:round abouts (Score:5, Interesting)
So when will they be able to handle round-abouts and unmarked lanes?
I don't know about roundabouts, but Tesla Autopilot, can already handle unmarked lanes. Tesla collects GPS data while you are driving. So if you drive down a street with unmarked lanes, it just follows the same path as other Teslas that have driven down the same street. My street has no lane markings, and my wife's Tesla can drive it on Autopilot with no problems. So this is a solved problem, and the solution is already in use by consumers.
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It is fine for driver assistance, but it doesn't sound like fool-proof for autonomous car. What if you drive in some location where Teslas are not very popular and get into new road construction zone with remapped or absent lanes? Will Tesla just follow previous path and go straight into a pile of sand? I would rather wait for other guinea pigs to test such system on full scale before relying on it myself.
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So if you drive down a street with unmarked lanes, it just follows the same path as other Teslas that have driven down the same street.
So it's able to follow a map? That is not AI, and it is not adequate for the real world.
So this is a solved problem
No, it's not.
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We still haven't got reliable gps but we want to make an autonomous car.
Who is this "we"? Under $20 gets you a modern GPS module (and GLONASS, etc) with an active patch antenna and a compass.
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When will humans be able to handle roundabouts? Because where I live not many people are smart enough to successfully navigate roundabouts.
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Really? So you regularly encounter people stuck in them? Or did you mean they can't navigate it in the most efficient way? There's a difference there.
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What I've seen is an inability of people to handle multiple lanes in a roundabout. So if new lanes start in the middle, while lanes spiral off to outside exits, people will be oblivious to the line markings. As well you can have people on an inner lane, that abruptly exit without checking if there is a car continuing past the exit in an outer lane.
Also just a general lack of use of Turn signals. More than normal.
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When will humans be able to handle roundabouts? Because where I live not many people are smart enough to successfully navigate roundabouts.
Idiocracy has become reality.
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So what? They're safer than the average driver.
How can you know that about a technology that isn't even built yet?
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How can you know that about a technology that isn't even built yet?
Because it is built, and has already been tested over millions of miles of driving. Many of the specific technologies, like adaptive cruise control, and automatic lane following, are already installed in millions of cars.
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Where would you say were are currently on that list?
Legally, we are at level 2. Technologically, we are at level 3.
What do you think it will take to get to level 4?
Two years.
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What do you think it will take to get to level 4?
Two years.
That avoids answering the question. If you don't know what technological advances are still necessary, that's fine.
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Are technological advances actually necessary, or is it just a matter of gathering a lot more data with testing to refine the logic?
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Are technological advances actually necessary, or is it just a matter of gathering a lot more data with testing to refine the logic?
Faster hardware will also help. Most vision and AI algorithms are highly parallel, so more cores helps almost as much as faster cores.
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What about data? Cars may need a lot of local storage can't relay on there being some kind of good cell / wifi network 24/7 even 1 way GPS is iffy in some areas maybe mesh networks but still rural areas and other network black holes.
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Erm, we are using 4 ARM cores and 2 DSPs and mostly they idle, one DPS does nothing, one ARM is only needed during booting. On something like 500MHz and 16MB RAM. TI board, forgot the name. A pretty simple and cheap one.
We don't need anything faster for simple image processing.
Radar, Lidar and other sensors are processed by different boards.
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GPS may be hardly usable in some places like South America.
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The Google/Tesla method is to have a very detailed 3D map of the area, and then the car can navigate through the pre-made map. It seems like Tesla is planning on creating a detailed 3D map of the entire United States, probably by collecting data from cars that are already on the road. I am fascinated to see if that is enough. I doubt it, but if I'm proved wrong, the
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The Google/Tesla method is to have a very detailed 3D map of the area, and then the car can navigate through the pre-made map.
The map is not the territory.
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Also, agile techniques definitely don't work with self-driving cars. Can you imagine an OTA update that isn't quite right, and ends up killing 15000 people?
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We are already at level 4.
I never sat in one of those cars, but we have a few at my University more precisely at the "Forschungszentrum Informatik" here in Karlsruhe.
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We are already at level 4.
I never sat in one of those cars, but we have a few at my University more precisely at the "Forschungszentrum Informatik" here in Karlsruhe.
So one of the cars at your university can drive me from there to (say) Berlin, while it's snowing, with no human intervention other than my opening the door to get in? Really?
If this is the case, why haven't you licensed the tech to Musk and let him make you all a boatload of cash?
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I guess Elon will license the tech from someone ... what is your point?
At least if he starts from scratch now and does not license anything, or simply buy the required parts (actually no need to license anything if you simply buy the sensors and computers from Bosch and Continental e.g.) he wont make anything in the next 2 years.
After all the other companies are working since 20 years on the required sensors and software.
So one of the cars at your university can drive me from there to (say) Berlin, while i
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The problem with these millions miles is that they are all on the same track, so really means nothing when you go elsewhere or when something changes on the road.
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How can you know that about a technology that isn't even built yet?
The technology is partly 20 years old so it is built.
Basically all majour car companies in Europe and Asia have self driving cars since about 10 years. With more or less success, of course.
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With more or less success, of course.
lol there's a lot of variance in that phrase.......
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That means that some have 100% autonomous cars, and the others are a bit behind ;D
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"How can you know that about a technology that isn't even built yet?"
Because it is. What's happening now is testing, validating and minor refinements based on existing builds.
Cool, Elon Musk himself is posting on slashdot.
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Self Driving Cars with automated updates, kill switches, remotely accessed cameras and microphones, and any other means of surveillance is not a car I will finance because it will no longer be MY car.
In case you hadn't noticed, the Uber model means that in a few years' time, almost no one will bother owning a car. Except the not-a-taxi drivers of course, and even they will probably have some sort of lease arrangement with Uber.
Why else would Uber be valued at sixty zillion dollars? Certainly not because they'll be just a big not-a-taxi company.
Re:Only if I have complete control... (Score:4, Insightful)
"The car is already not YOUR car anymore because the manufacturer controls the spare parts market."
This is an amazingly uneducated response.
Go see the company called "year One" and how they are making parts for cars that have been long abandoned by the manufacturer. Oh and please feel free to continue ignoring every car made from 1927 to 1999 that also have 3rd party parts available.
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Of course, now they are putting more computers in each car, and then embedding the VIN of the car in the code running each CPU, to make it that much harder to replace said computers when they fail.
And I can't believe people are stupid enough to pay for a internet connection for the vehicle, just so they don't have to deal with their children, but also giving the manufacturer valuable information about them and how they use their vehicle, which is sold, will be used against them if they get in any sort of ac
Re:Only if I have complete control... (Score:4, Informative)
Of course, now they are putting more computers in each car, and then embedding the VIN of the car in the code running each CPU, to make it that much harder to replace said computers when they fail.
That's not new, but eventually people figure out how to root that out. Bosch ME 5.4 and below are all fully open now, for example, including rewriting immobilizer codes. Using a $10 eBay cable and a netbook, I can theoretically the codes on mid-to-late-nineties Kraut cans in just a couple of minutes. Or, they redevelop the modules. The factory service manual typically includes literally all the information needed to implement workalikes. The good news is that automakers tend to use the same modules over and over again. The Bosch ABS 5 computer in my A8 is also the same as in contemporary A6 and Passat, and probably other modules, and there's no coding because it's fully adaptive. The only modules that tend to get coded to the car are the cluster, PCM, and TCM, perhaps the security module, and maybe the BCM but usually not.
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Does Tesla sell factory service/repair manuals? As far as I heard nope, they don't. Neither spare parts unless you prove that you own clean title Tesla and it isn't something more complex like engine. Good look trying to reverse engineer it which would probably be declared illegal as well. And they can switch off their charger access at any moment, or any charging for that matter, thanks to that great over-the-air update & always connected feature of total control of your (are you sure it is your anymor
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"Putting the 'dead' into deadline."
I really really hope they don't rush things to get it done on time.
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A few years ago at the darpa challenge every competing vehicle was able to park by itself. Within a year many manufacturers were selling cars with some type of park assist.
That was pretty cool considering a lot of them weren't even able to finish the challenge.
But two years? Yeah I think you are right marketing seems to want to say WE HAVE A SELF DRIVING CAR!!! while selling something that is just fancy cruise control. Like tesla's autopilot many sources reported it as being much more than it is /. included
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Have one go from CA to NY without any driver interaction (other than for fuel) now that would be something worthy of the title.
I'd have thought that getting the car to fill/charge itself while stationery was a relatively trivial matter compared to actually driving at high speed on roads filled with drunks, texters and people with an allergy to indicators or looking in the mirrors.
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They're doing both. See forthcoming Model 3.
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There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
Thank you. The Musk fanboys here will, of course, say that we already have player-pianos, so human concert pianists are outdated.