Ashley Madison Says It Added 4 Million Members Since the Hack (cnn.com) 125
New submitter fardindany writes with news that the months-old Ashley Madison hack seems to have had little impact on new users joining up. CNN reports: "Despite the infamous hack that exposed millions of cheaters online, infidelity dating site Ashley Madison says its ranks are growing. At the time of the hack, Ashley Madison said it had 39 million members. The website now says it has more than 43 million members, according to a rolling count on its homepage."
Actually 4 new members.. (Score:5, Funny)
And 3,999,996 bots.
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Correction: Lucy Liu bots.
Re:Actually 4 new members.. (Score:4, Funny)
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NEW LEAK FROM ASHLEY MADISON DOT COM!!!11!!!!!!q11!!!ELEVEN!!!
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Re:Actually 4 new members.. (Score:5, Funny)
Yes, it's all there in the title:
Ashley Madison Says _It_ Added 4 Million Members Since the Hack
Obvious reason (Score:5, Insightful)
Without some really strong evidence, why would anyone believe these 4 million new members aren't 99% AI-controlled bots? Or at least 99% of the new female users.
Re:Obvious reason (Score:4, Interesting)
Or just the masses re-joining this time under assumed/fake names?
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Or just the masses re-joining this time under assumed/fake names?
Or even if they are legitimate new users how many of the 39 million previous users left?
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Why would the masses rejoin after the revelations of the percentage of women being so low and the participation rate of women being even lower?
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Because probably they're losers whose chance to get lucky on MA while really low is still much higher than in the real world.
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People are stupid.
Go figure.
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or have a short memory, particularly where something involves getting laid or getting rich.
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Or at least 99% of the new female users.
I am a tad bit curious what the real numbers may reveal. :-)
Hypothetically, if I was looking for a site to find someone of the opposite sex, and then I learned about some site that had such a large imbalance in my favor, that might sway me to join. I don't honestly believe that to be the case, but it makes me wish I could trust the stats just to fulfill my curiosity
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Perhaps, but the 'learned that the same site's database got completely raped, and its member lists got published in the open' might put a bit of a crimp into things...
I mean seriously, there's a lot of idiots on this planet, but 4 million of them in a couple of months? I'm not seeing it, even as misanthropic as I am.
Re:Obvious reason (Score:5, Interesting)
Why would you bother to think they are AI-controlled bots? Someone probably just wrote a script to make 4 million accounts with pre-populated data.
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You think a script is AI?
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Why would there need to be "AI" involved? A script to add entries into a DB is much less work.
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Without some really strong evidence, why would anyone believe these 4 million new members aren't 99% AI-controlled bots? Or at least 99% of the new female users.
Well, a number of things.
(1) The argument that 99+% of female users were bots never quite made a lot of sense. It's true that men cheat more than women, but by a factor of something like 2:1, not several orders of magnitude higher. Even internet porn use is nowhere near the claimed level of asymmetry by gender on AM.
(2) The actual person who made the claim about the massive percentage of female bots actually admitted her data analysis was completely bogus [gizmodo.com] and that she had no idea what she was doing in int
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You keep making claims the bot story was faulty analysis. Do you have a single link to backup your claim?
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After this data breech I made an account at Ashley Madison as I wanted to see what is "so special" about them.
I did not upload a photo or something. But filled out most stuff with reasonable (more or less correct) data.
As you have to pay for basically everything there, you can not even see more than one profile photo IIRC without payed account, I basically lost interest after an hour and never came back.
After 4 or 6 weeks I had like 50 "winks" or "messages" ... most messages looked reasonable enough.
Anyway:
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You say, "AI-controlled bots" as if that's a bad thing.
I believe them (Score:5, Funny)
After all, what do bots care about reputation?
like "Oktoberfest" without the bier (Score:2)
This is why CNN can't be trusted with the news (Score:5, Funny)
>> according to a rolling count on its homepage
Has anyone NOT on SlashDot NOT written a visitor/user/customer counter that started at a fictitious number and automatically incremented as time went on? (This is, after all, the culture of "fake it until you make it.")
Re:This is why CNN can't be trusted with the news (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, what are the odds that the counter takes account cancellations into account? Accounts that have been removed since the hack likely aren't considered for that rolling counter.
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No, but I once had an "visitor counter" on my web site. The webmaster had included it. It worked by requesting an image with a counter rendered into it from a third party web site.
After a year or so, the owner of that "counting site" sold it to a porn company. And they replaced the counter with something that caused a porn overlay on my web site.
No idea how long that lasted, but a friend of mine eventually pointed me to it.
Re:Let me guess... (Score:5, Funny)
This is the internet! Where the men are men, women are bots and kids are FBI agents.
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I Am Not a Bot
I somehow can only read that hearing Richard Nixon's voice in my head saying it. heh
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And the comment itself in Shatner's voice?
So 3,999,990 fake women and 10 stupid guys then... (Score:1)
Since almost all of the accounts from women in AM were mad up "for amusement" as per the T&C and run by staff members you can only presume that the 4,000,000 figure is almost all Bots and a few sad and desperate guys.
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Still better odds than those guys have in the real world.
I am sure they got plenty of new "members" (Score:1)
Doubt there are any women to meet them though, just Ashley Madison employees (who may or may not be female or human) to lead them on.
The worst humanity has to offer (Score:2, Insightful)
Works also without children and without divorce (Score:2)
The ratio of people who want a marriage for that very reason is astonishing, even planning decades in advance to utilize this as a source of "income" instead of having to do actual work.
Newspapers and the InterNet are full of people offering
Re:The worst humanity has to offer (Score:5, Informative)
It's worth noting that while 50% of all marriages end in divorce, most people who get married stay married. The stat gets skewed by the fact that many who get divorced will marry and get divorced again.
Re:The worst humanity has to offer (Score:5, Informative)
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Well, even with all the extras taken into account, it seems you end up with a nation wide credit card debt of $5,000 per household on average. Still a serious number, as it's well over one month's median household income (yes I'm conveniently mixing average and median here).
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"Serial marriage" isn't being counted as "staying married". It's a very simple concept, let's try and say it slower for you...
1. 50% of marriages end in divorce.
2. >50% of people marry do not get divorced.
This is possible because there are people who marry, get divorced, and then marry again, then get divorced again.
Take the trivial example of a set of 7 people. Two of then call them A and B get married. Two others call them C and D also get married. Two others call them E and F also get married. Then C
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bitter much? Divorce much? Too bitter to get married and thus never divorced?
I can think a a large number of cases where you just sound bitter, and not offer anyone anything of real value, which is probably why you are bitter in the first place.
Damn.
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It's worth noting that while 50% of all marriages end in divorce, most people who get married stay married. The stat gets skewed by the fact that many who get divorced will marry and get divorced again.
In Australia when you count first, second and third marriages, the amount of people who actually end up staying married to somebody is about 70%.
I guess that either they've finally found their true loves, or they're just too exhausted and can't afford the legal fees anymore.
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On second marriages: "The triumph of hope over experience."
Samuel Johnson
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Because rich men have such a hard time finding pootenanny that they have to resort to a lame website?
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I think that pretty much most people who get married start out with an idea of being committed to the institution, but their experience sours after.
Ton of girls over at apartment #127.0.0.1 (Score:1)
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That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
Publicity (Score:2)
The hack brought a lot of publicity for the site, i wasn't previously aware that it existed and i'm sure many others weren't too.
Would be interesting to know how many people have signed up using fake details, or have signed up solely out of curiosity having read about the hack...
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I think that this is probably correct.
People are so used to data breaches these days that I am sure people figure "Well, they probably learned their lesson and won't make that mistake again..."
I mean, I still shop at Target despite being caught up in their cluster of a data breach...
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Well how do you know that any given site hasn't been compromised?
Crossover in 2045! (Score:5, Funny)
The US population counter gives the US population as 323M + 1 person every 13 seconds.
Ashley Madison claims 39M users + 4M users in 4 months.
Doing the math gives crossover in 2045, at which time everyone in the country will be on Ashley Madison.
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The US population counter gives the US population as 323M + 1 person every 13 seconds. Ashley Madison claims 39M users + 4M users in 4 months. Doing the math gives crossover in 2045, at which time everyone in the country will be on Ashley Madison.
I am doing the math on behalf of those who are too dumb or too lazy, whichever is lamer
August 19th - December 28th = 131 days
131 days * 86,400 (seconds in a day) = 11,318,400 seconds have passed
11m seconds / 4m new signups = 1 user added every 2.75 seconds
So we will be adding 11.5 m users per year
If 48% of the US population is male that's 150m men
minus the 20m who haven't reached 10 years of age
dividing by 50% for those who are married
that gives us 70m or so who would statistically be married six y
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1. The user number is not US only.
2. The population counter factors in deaths, dead AM users and still AM users.
Just 4 million ... (Score:2)
more morons in the world than previous believed to be.
A fools and his... (Score:2)
A fool and his privacy are soon parted.
Shit-filled (Score:2)
Considering... (Score:2)
..most AM accounts were "hey what's this?" non-paying, non verified accounts, I believe them. They added 4million accounts of people signing up/in to see what the big deal was after all the hype.
Now, how many paying accounts are there of those? IIRC previously it was like 1%.
Growth Opportunity! (Score:2)
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Even better for AM would be of those users would get their spouse to sign up as well, and in the process get a somewhat more balanced gender ratio - after all it seems they are mostly after heterosexual encounters - and have even more chance to grow. They just may have to change their language and transform from being a cheaters site to a swingers site.
why ? (Score:2)
I wonder why. Not because of the data breach, but because of the various analyses done that gave strong evidence that your chances of talking to an actual female on the site is pretty close to zero. After that got out, why would any man register an account there, even for free?
Maybe these are all women who are glad that the ratio is such, because it gives them better chances? ;-)
NEW members? (Score:2)
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Oddly enough, nobody but them gives a fuck about it.