Facebook Celebrates Turning 12 Today (cnbc.com) 153
12 years ago today, Mark Zuckerberg launched Facebook, and since then the site has grown at a nearly unbelievable pace. Now, with about 1.6 billion monthly active users, Facebook makes an average of $3.73 in revenue per user worldwide. And as the company continues to grow, engagement is only getting higher. According to an analysis by CNBC, users spend an aggregate of 10.5 billion minutes per day on the social media platform -- that's around $3.5 trillion in squandered productivity, by their estimate. Facebook is celebrating its birthday by marking today "Friends Day" and adding personalized videos to each user's account showing their best moments with friends, or at least what Facebook's algorithms think are the best moments. (Users can opt to share the video or keep it private.) The company's also announced an updated degrees-of-separation metric to make it easier to connect with other users.
Celebrate? Lets mourn our privacy. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Yeah, so are the 4th and 5th amendments, and habeas corpus, how's that working out for 'ya?
The 4th and 5th have been gutted or ignored, and you had an AG who famously said habeas corpus doesn't exist.
Why does everyone let the other Constitutional rights get shat upon, but act like that one damned thing is inviolate?
Why aren't all those people loudly braying about their 2nd amendment defending the other Constitutional rights?
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Why does everyone let the other Constitutional rights get shat upon, but act like that one damned thing is inviolate?
Why aren't all those people loudly braying about their 2nd amendment defending the other Constitutional rights?
Because the 2nd amendment is what will enable us to get those others back. There is a LOT of civil process still available before the braying you hear is gunfire.
I for one do not look forward to that. But the 2nd amendment remains as a legal means to enforce the will of the people as a *last resort*
Re:Celebrate? Lets mourn our privacy. (Score:4, Informative)
Facebook gets its content from users. Blame them. This is what the public wants.
Re:Celebrate? Lets mourn our privacy. (Score:4, Insightful)
Facebook gets its content from users. Blame them. This is what the public wants.
Absolutely not. Users didn't sign up for this, they signed up to stay in touch with their friends. Facebook pulled bait and switch. At no point do they actually explain the implications of what their users are doing.
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"They probably imagined that the average person isn't legally fucktarded..."
Wrong. Their business model has been built from the START on this idea. For reference, see Zuckerberg's comment (years ago) about his users:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/14/facebook_trust_dumb/
Yes, Minister (Score:3)
I think people knew that there was a something. They didn't know that the something could turn out to be anything.
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It is unfortunate that they don't tell people this, but if you're not paying for it, you're the product.
Nobody is giving you something for free just to be nice.
And I'm sure the terms of service nobody ever reads it spells out what they're doing.
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Re:Celebrate? Lets mourn our privacy. (Not ME!!) (Score:2)
I suppose that puts me on some sort of watch list...hmmmm.
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Re:Celebrate? Lets mourn our privacy. (Not ME!!) (Score:5, Funny)
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On other hand, I choose to be non-joiner to the bitter end.
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Me too! Kinda figured that bitter end would've happened by now, though.
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As long as you understand that unless you've actively blocked them at the firewall or in your browser an alarming number of sites you visit will still cause Facebook to generate data about you ... because, well, between the Facebook button and embedded scripts, you might be surprised just how much they're already tracking you.
Well, them and the 15 other tracking sites embedded in most pages that people don't notice is happening.
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It can actually get worse ... they have a feature which allows you to find contacts ... basically you (like a trusting idiot) upload your contacts to Facebook, who then scour through it to link you to anybody they can identify. So your friends can all get harassed and have their
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It'll even go one further, and let you just enter your email address and password, and then Facebook will log into it and scour it directly. That people would provide Facebook with their email address and password defies comprehension.
I believe they at least use federated login for that so you're not actually submitting credentials to FB itself. But I've never been willing to find out.
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But do you have a TV?
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I'm still proud to say, I'm one of the last 3 folks on planet earth that does not have a FB account, nor have I ever had one....
You're one, and I'm another - I wonder who the third is. ;-)
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Re:Celebrate? (Score:2)
CELEBRATE!
The anti-social network I have celebrates tomorrow. Celebrate! Your invitation never made it to the mailbox. But have a drink to commemorate the occasion, and have your dinner (for two-one now the other later) delivered to your door. Come on, do *I* have to think of everything?
Provocateur
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Let's mourn the lack of a "dislike" button, because, god forbid, I have my own opinion and I disagree with your stupid shit Why can't we agree to disagree?
Let's mourn the apathy & stupidity of the sheeple who don't give a fuck about How they, the users, ARE the product.
But I forgot the /oblg. "Amerika Fuck Yeah! We're #1 -- Yay for greed & capitalism!" Who needs to give a damn about respecting people and not (ab)using them! :-/
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I don't want to be real-life friends with anyone stupid enough to use
LUST FOR LIFE! (bom-dom di-dah dum) (Score:2)
I would, but I'm too busy grieving for the poor lost apostrophes.
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Celebrate? Lets mourn our collective privacy
That is entirely within your hands. Facebook knows exactly what you have told them or one of their partners. They know too much about you? Look in the mirror.
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Facebook knows exactly jack shit about me. This is because I am paranoid with history and value my privacy over convenience. I am certain you can relate.
Sincerely yours,
Screwtape
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The thing is, on Slashdot we've got user generated content, journals, a friend and foe system, ways to include contact information, ways to link to other's content, and ways to contact each other in private. Slashdot is pretty much a social network - the friend and foe system, being public, makes it even more so as you develop a network. Hell, I've met dozens of people from this site in the real world. I've communicated with many more by off-site means or, if you'd prefer, a private message.
I don't have a F
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I certainly belong to
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Those are probably quite a bit of info that can be used for a variety of results. They can be used to track you, monetize you, and probably even dig deeper if they had server logs. Me? Oh no... Err... I'm David. I've met a bunch of you crazy bastards. I've fed some of you, gotten you drunk, and entertained you. So, I guess it's what you do with it that matters?
Though, I suppose, with access to server logs and some sleuthing it might be possible to ferret you out. Given your likes and dislikes and some acces
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Promoting or enabling? While I've no love (or use) for Facebook - I'm not sure that they're explicitly promoting such though I'd accept an argument that they're facilitating such. I'm a pretty firm believer in that tool are just tools - it's how you use them that matters. Some people will use tools to do bad things, others will use them for good things.
It's a bit like speech, really. You can say good things or you can say poor things. You can use it to create art or you can use it to create wrath. It can ce
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12 years of that shit (Score:5, Insightful)
when can we get rid of facebook?
6 more years, 10+ if they major in the humanities (Score:4, Funny)
At 18 you can kick them out, but if you let them get a BA degree in Afrikaans Translations of Shakespeare, they're going to end up back on your couch.
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As someone who's on the other side of the world than all the people I've made friends with over the last 10 years I hope it stays.
Don't want it, don't use it.
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Normally, (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd say "many happy returns". But in this case I'll simply say "sod off, and may you have no more birthdays - ever".
UNLIKE (Score:1)
As I say.
"Squandarded productivity"?That depends... (Score:1)
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Well I still submit my antarctic born, hogwarts attending, international, two-spirit gender facebook avatar has sabotaged someone's productivity and finances. At the very least a past employer on whose dime I created it, and whatever big brotherish agencies are slurping facebook and have the unholy job of fumigating the nonsense. Most of my uploaded photos are of cats I do not own, internet memes I didn't create, and lately every derp face Trump picture ever taken. The latter itself could fill a sizable sto
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Most of my uploaded photos are of cats I do not own, internet memes I didn't create, and lately every derp face Trump picture ever taken. The latter itself could fill a sizable storage array.
I'm not really a religious person but, and I think this is a first, I'm inclined to say, "You're doing God's work, son."
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So are you saying that I didn't actually climb Mount Everest, jet ski across the Pacific ocean on a half a tank of gas, help in the birthing of 15 white rhino's in Africa AND submit a 3 line patch of code to Slashdot to fix their Unicode character issue?
Re:Family and old friends ... (Score:5, Funny)
Only reason I have an account is to communicate with companies that don't have their own login system.
I'm on my second account now my first one was locked.
Apparently I fell awry of their real name policy. For some reason they didn't believe my name was ikate facebork.
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I heard of some Asian guy having trouble with FB. His name was Fook Yu. I don't know if that was a true story.
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The only reason I have an account is for friends and family - I wonder how many other accounts are purely for this reason?
Huh? Keeping up with friends and family is the main purpose of Facebook.
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Well intentioned, but creepy. (Score:2)
Retro (Score:5, Funny)
People still use Facebook? How quaint!
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Is that supposed to be funny? They have 1.03 BILLION WITH A B daily active users.
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Oh what's so dumb about using a social media platform to communicate oh enlightened Slashdot commenter?
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What were you expecting they would be using? :P
"lost productivity" claim rather dubious (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, I'm no Facebook fan, (have been "wasting" my time here for years on /. instead.)
That hasn't stopped me holding down a job and delivering value to my clients over those same years.
Also, before the interwebs people did crossword puzzles, and other "non productive" stuff.
Plenty of people find Facebook a useful marketing tool also; my wife breeds and sells cats, and plenty of contacts have come via fb.
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If I understood you correctly, you're saying that your wife posts pictures of her pussy on Facebook, which you consider a useful marketing strategy.
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:)
Thanks Yaelk! (Score:5, Insightful)
Thanks for posting! Timothy was about to drive us all nuts.
Re:Thanks Yaelk! (Score:5, Funny)
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So that means that next year.... (Score:5, Funny)
That means that next year, Facebook will be old enough to get a Facebook account, and the entire Facebook computing infrastructure will disappear in a burst of recursion...
I Celebrate 12 Years Without Facebook (Score:2)
With this news, I can now celebrate 12 years of not being on Facebook!
It's arguably the biggest threat to consumer privacy in our age - a Three Letter Agency's wet dream. I have never, and will never, ever use the steaming pile of user-exploiting, privacy-invading, advertiser-serving shit that Facebook has always been, and will always be. I can happily be a consumer, but I will never be a product if I can help it. I am the lone Facebook holdout amongst everyone I know, and proud of it.
Here's hoping we've al
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Aren't you a special little snowflake? We are so proud of you for letting us all know that you don't use Facebook. Let me give you a gold star little Timmy... you are head of the class today!
Oh, I just wish everyone could be as special as you Timmy. Oh wait, you are ALL special in your own special way.
Damn Odd (Score:3)
How a company that will do anything they want with your info, and seriously can't be trusted is held in such high regards.
On the flip side I need to access facebook to keep up with the family, and their doings, Facebook is their social setting.
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Can't they just email you? Why is it better to send the contents of all of that to a third party who will (1) analyze it for marketing reasons, (2) sell it, and (3) send it on to you? Why not bypass the middle man, and just communicate directly with your family?
Who knows (mass audience?). Birthdays are killing me, everyone else knows my Sons birthday is coming, but yours truly; and to a smaller extent special occasions planned in the spur of a message. It was hard to give any info to facebook, but rewarding family wise.
And facebook is damn hard to get back into, I still have an active hotmail account that I used to join Facebook, then MS blocked my access to it, I had it forwarding my email to Gmail, so while I can't access it, all my mail makes it through - now t
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you didn't delete your account. you deactivated it. all your data is still there, on their servers.
There is a way to delete your account rather than have it waiting for you. I mentioned it on /. long ago and was given a link that did the trick.
Google: how to permanently delete your account on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/help/... [facebook.com] - no promises
Before Facebook (Score:5, Insightful)
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haha yeah those days were fun. Except when they looked out the window.
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Facebook (Score:2)
Worst idea (Score:1)
Tell me again .. (Score:1)
Just rub it in Facebook... (Score:1)
...I didn't need you to remind me that I have no friends.
The preview for me was just my kids, my wife, and my mother followed by a bunch of "Happy Birthday" messages people sent me because people subscribed to me, mostly from the rest of my family.
Kinda like the bottle of coke I had with a pizza, in a hotel room, on a business trip that instructed me to "share with friends".
Lovely, just lovely (Score:5, Insightful)
Zuckerberg becomes one of the richest people in the world by building...the biggest waste of time ever devised.
Bill Gates is a prick. But at least his company built something - Windows - that makes people productive.
Andrew Carnegie was a prick. But his companies built railroads that allowed for westward expansion and are still in use today.
Jay Gould was a prick. But he too built railroads that helped to expand the economy.
What has Zuck done, exactly? He created a program that is such a time waster that many companies simply block it for fear of their employees surfing cousin Sally's wedding photos on the company dime. Sure, it has helped to reunite some families and I applaud that. And maybe it helped you find that long lost high school chum from 20 years ago. But maybe if you haven't heard from them in 20 years then they don't really give a shit about you? But I digress....
And the advertising...I mean does anyone really look at those things? If i buy a copy of Car & Driver then I'm really into cars and if I see an ad for car stuff I'm likely to at least read it. But if I'm looking at Sally's wedding photos do I really care about adds for car stuff?
I know that it makes money for Facebook but the whole thing just seems like a giant house of cards to me.
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What has Zuck done, exactly?
He made millions then married an ugly woman, lot of people did respected that.
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I concur. Facebook is the biggest waste of time ever. Now excuse me while I finish reading these random comments on Slashdot before I go do a few Sudoku, then sit down in front of the TV for 3 hours on a Simpsons binge. Maybe this afternoon I'll play some candy crush and then fry my brain by driving a tuktuk around in circles in Far Cry 4.
By many metrics Facebook is far more useful and has far more utility than the stupendously large list of things human beings "waste time" with.
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I'm not suggesting that FB is the only time waster. As you point out, there are many avenues for that. My main point was comparing Zuckerberg to a few other people that have amassed vast fortunes. The others, not without their flaws by the way, at least created something of great value. Something enduring.
What has FB created? Yes, there have been some positive benefits such as people locating long lost friends, etc. But you have to dig pretty deep to find them and it was probably more by accident than by de
Facebook Celebrates Turning 12 Today (Score:1)
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I think you're onto something....