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UK Hosting Provider 123-Reg Accidentally Deletes Customer Sites (theregister.co.uk) 64

Richard Chirgwin, writing for The Register: UK hosting and domains provider 123-Reg has been struck by a weekend issue that knocked an unspecified number of VPS customers offline. The company posted a status message saying that the unspecified issues arose on April 16. 123-reg customer, software company INNmaster, contacted The Register directing our attention to its post on the topic, claiming a rogue script had deleted customer sites (such as this one). Slashdot has independently received several tips for this incident. Here's a copy of the email that Richard Winslow, Director of 123-Reg sent to the affected customers.
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UK Hosting Provider 123-Reg Accidentally Deletes Customer Sites

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Sounds like some sort of new radioactive isotope

  • This is the second time this week a "rogue script" has deleted a web hosting provider. I sense a pattern.

    Oh, and the obligatory XKCD [xkcd.com]

  • by hardill ( 313407 ) on Monday April 18, 2016 @08:03AM (#51931131) Homepage

    Looks like that Serverfault question about running rm -rf / was real then

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Indeed. It looks like they had a script that was supposed to delete old, unused virtual machines. Due to a database error, similar to the Serverfault hoax, the script get a null value which made it think many active machines were in fact dead and so it deleted them.

    • by Krojack ( 575051 )

      Referring to this one?

      http://brobible.com/life/artic... [brobible.com]

  • In that case a "rogue script" meant that they were trying to prove that anyone could be an administrator so gave a sales person root access who promptly ran rm -rf /*.*.

    On top of that their were no daily backups as promised for that server, because they would not invest money in it.

    ait.com

    Ahh those were some of the worst days of my life, but learned a lot fixing other people's mistakes.

    • by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Monday April 18, 2016 @08:13AM (#51931195) Journal

      so gave a sales person root access who promptly ran rm -rf /*.*.

      Running rm -rf /*.*. (or even rm -rf /*.*) is unlikely to cause much damage on a *NIX system as it's very unusual to have any files with dots in their names in the root directory and even more unlikely to have any directories that have dots in their names.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward

        > Running rm -rf /*.*. (or even rm -rf /*.*) is unlikely to cause much damage on a *NIX system [...]

        Alas, times have changed. Nowadays every idiot and his dog, coming over from DOS (perhaps via OSX [1]) has the irresistible urge to name his shell scripts "foo.sh". Those are the very same people who think "all files" is spelt "*.*", so the only consolation for all that ugliness is that they bring their own antimatter along. May they annihilate themselves in a flash of light!

        [1] Yeah, yeah. OSX is Unix ben

        • Nowadays every idiot and his dog, coming over from DOS (perhaps via OSX [1]) has the irresistible urge to name his shell scripts "foo.sh".

          Especially when a script to back up the day's work to a remote server is called pu.sh.

        • The parent post was not about using unnecessary extensions but about having files or directories with an extension at the ROOT of the filesystem.
          None of /usr /etc /tmp .. match the pattern /*.* so rm -rf /*.* should be mostly harmless on most systems.

          For instance, on my current box, the only thing that would be removed is the symlink /initrd.imh -> boot/initrd.img-...
          That would probably prevent me to boot but that is easy to repair.

          Regarding the use of the .sh extension for shell script, I kind of disagr

          • I have never added extensions to any of my scripts for any other reason than I'd likely forget what the hell it was and sometimes I don't feel like looking or grepping the first line to get the declaration.
        • Hey. Don't drag Mac users into this one. Historically, we were used to using type and creator codes in the file's resource fork, naming our files whatever we damned well pleased; and mocked the windows people for their 8.3 filenames every bit as much as the Unix guys did. So even pre-OS X, no *.* people here.

      • by thaylin ( 555395 )

        I am sorry, I was trying to be a bit funny and serious at the same timet. We named our customer data partitions /vs{#}. What she did was do a rm -rf /vs* deleting all the customers data, the OS was perfectly fine.

        I probably should have stuck to the serious part of it.

      • by Anonymous Coward
        On solaris * resolves to something or nothing, so /*.* resolves to /. which is the same as /
        /*.*. resolves to /.. which also is / (/ is special like that)
        Even on current Linux systems, /.* resolves to / so be careful deleting hidden directories en masse!
        • On solaris * resolves to something or nothing, so /*.* resolves to /.

          Wait, you said that the command eliminates slashdot?

          I'm trying to decide if that's good, or bad...

        • by Junta ( 36770 )

          /*.* for me resolves for literal '/*.*'. Generally shells try to glob expand, and pass as literal on failure. So if you have no files in / with '.' in them, it will try to remove, literraly, a single file/dir named '*.*'.

          • by _merlin ( 160982 )

            Bourne shells pass as literal on failure to match glob. This has always irritated me as commands like "find . -name *.c" do radically different things depending on whether there are any .c files in the current directory. C shells don't pass on a literal glob if it doesn't match - they return an error without running the command.

    • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

      sales person root access who promptly ran rm -rf /*.*.

      Back a long long time ago in place far far away I was working in Unix on a VAX. It was late, I was tired. I wanted to delete a bunch of files. Some of the files I wanted to delete matched the pattern fred.* while others matched the pattern *.barney. So in my muddled head I thought that I could save a typing one command by combining the two patterns and doing rm *.* Of course I realized my mistake the moment I hit return. Fortunately it was in a local directory and I could easily recreate what I had l

  • So either of the following happened:

    1. There is a massively incompetent administrator who scripted a blind delete without testing
    2. There is a massively incompetent administrator who left security open enough that someone else could delete multiple customers stuff

    I guess they just don't build them like they used to, because 'cloud'.

  • by fustakrakich ( 1673220 ) on Monday April 18, 2016 @08:24AM (#51931247) Journal

    Again [slashdot.org]?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Perchance, was it "just one line of code"?

    "Webservers hate this one weird trick!"

    "Find out the ancient neckbeard secret servers don't want you to know!"

  • by TechyImmigrant ( 175943 ) on Monday April 18, 2016 @09:08AM (#51931515) Homepage Journal

    Cloud so convenient
    Service provider not bright
    All the files are gone

  • â¦comment of :

    "â¦and nothing of substance was lost."

    ^__~

  • A hosting provider deleting all your stuff by accident or a hosting provide deleting all your stuff on purpose?
  • Looks like this is another publicity stunt, just like the hoax where a man deleted all his files with a rm -rf .

  • https://www.quora.com/Is-there... [quora.com] Link is a google doc. Which appears to be able to track visitors logged in with a google account. Sorry about your emails.
  • Senior admin to millenial newbie: "What ever you do, don't run the delete_all_evidence.sh script on the production systems. We only use that when the Feds raid us. It completely scrubs the boxes".

    newbie: "Oh .... yeah. So it does. Where do I click undelete"

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