Google, Fiat Chrysler Plan Partnership On Self-Driving Minivans (androidheadlines.com) 73
An anonymous reader writes: Google and Fiat Chrysler were in "late stage talks" last week about working out a partnership where the two could build some self-driving cars together. Google has the tech available -- it just needs to partner with a car manufacturer, as Google hasn't mass-produced a car before, and could use the experience. A report coming out of Bloomberg says the two companies could be putting Google's autonomous driving technology into some prototypes of the upcoming Pacifica minivan. The report says Fiat Chrysler is looking to equip their upcoming plug-in hybrid Pacifica with Google's autonomous technology. Google could still work out a deal with Ford, which was rumored a few months ago, and they have been reportedly in talks with General Motors, but the deal with Chrysler could be signed as soon as today.
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Lyin' ted is a traitor.
Who cares? Lyin' Ted just lost the Indiana primary, so the race is all but over, and Trump will be the Republican nominee. Maybe Donald can ride a self-driving minivan to his inauguration.
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The minivan makes sense actually (Score:2)
Minivans are essentially the most utili
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Well, you *should* thank me. I'm not contributing to the overpopulation problem by popping out even more children because society or religious norms say I should.
When there's children piling up in the inventories of Russian and Cambodian orphanages, making even *more* children is a very selfish, wasteful act.
Even better, kid-only transport (Score:2)
The most awesome potential for a self deriving minivan is something few see coming - the ability to transport kids to activities with NO ADULT PRESENT.
Why would there need to be? The parents of every child riding in the Road Pod could monitor the interior remotely and issue stern commands over speakers as required.
This would give parents a lot more choice about attending activities - they would not have to show up hours early for a pre-game warmup or practice, they could just show up to enjoy the game and
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Dare I say underage driving when one of the kids figures out how to command the vehicle?
Depends on what you mean by "Command."
If the command is, "Hey, car, take out that pedestrian over there," then yes. On the other hand, "Hey, car, stop for ice cream!" means that the car will safely stop at the next ice cream shop and let the kids out. Maybe Mom and Dad won't approve, but it's hardly a danger to the rest of us out there.
Maybe child endangerment laws? Neglect laws?
This one I could actually see. Not that I'd agree with it, but I could see it happening...
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Maybe child endangerment laws?
Once you take that to court and prove it's safer inside the self-driving car than out, you will not be able to prosecute for child endangerment. Lawsuits are simply part of the business model, as with Uber.
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"The most awesome potential for a self deriving minivan is something few see coming - the ability to transport kids to activities with NO ADULT PRESENT."
Nice, you just invented the soccer-bot.
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ISTR that both Apple and Google have floated sketches of minivan concepts, and that at least one of them has envisioned a completely flat floor and front seats that swivel around to face the rear just as you describe. The problem is, even people who don't currently have a problem with carsickness will feel urpy in that situation, but they're going to have to do it anyway and they're really going to have to make it standard equipment, which means $$$.
Why do we need self-driving cars? (Score:1)
Why do we need self-driving cars? If anything, we should be wanting simpler cars that are controlled less by computers. If the scandals at companies like VW and GM haven't convinced us that auto manufacturers won't make sure cars are safe, I don't know what will. We'll have less control of self-driving cars, which will probably be even more dangerous.
I expect this post will be buried at -1 because nobody wants to answer tough questions like this. I don't expect serious answers, only downmods and personal a
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We'll have less control of self-driving cars, which will probably be even more dangerous.
Self driving cars have already driven millions of miles on public roads, and have a proven track record far better than human drivers.
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Yes. Under extremely carefully controlled circumstances.
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Self-driving cars are now at the drivers-ed level, then?
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Why do we need self-driving cars?
Tens of thousands of people die just in the US each year in cars, and millions are injured...
That's why, because it will reduce those numbers by a lot...
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The interesting things are what happen at the technologies nascence, IE now, and when it is mature and has a market. Once there is large scale market adoption is when you will see scandals, cutting corners and regulatory capture to hide these actions.
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I expect this post will be buried at -1 because nobody wants to answer tough questions like this.
Saying this isn't some sort of magic talisman you know.
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Because self driving cars will be more predictable and more easily controlled, hence allowing a greater density of traffic to travel on the same infrastructure. An individual trip may be slower but the total network will be significantly better.
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Mod martyrs say things like this because they know they deserve the downmods they're trying to deflect.
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Why do we need self-driving cars?
Duh
If anything, we should be wanting simpler cars that are controlled less by computers.
Wrong
If the scandals at companies like VW and GM haven't convinced us that auto manufacturers won't make sure cars are safe,
We should just throw up our hands and say it can't be done? P.S. You forgot Toyota, which is way more applicable. Are you new?
We'll have less control of self-driving cars,
While they're driving themselves? Yes, that's the point. You get a GOLD STAR
which will probably be even more dangerous.
[citation needed]
I expect this post will be buried at -1
Which it deserves, but I came to take a gander anyway
I don't expect serious answers,
Too bad, you got them anyway
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Is that no one wants to be self driven. 99% of people want to drive themselves.
Except for people with disabilities, or old people with slow reflexes, or people that would rather sleep, or read, or text, or browse, or sightsee.
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In the future I suspect that some people will still drive manually for pleasure,
That's fine, as long as they don't do it on a public road where they may endanger other people.
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That's fine, as long as they don't do it on a public road where they may endanger other people.
You can wish for that all you like, but it's not going to happen in our lifetime. If you think convincing the American public to hand over its firearms would be politically difficult, that's nothing compared to trying to get them to hand over their beloved automobiles.
And in the end it won't matter anyway, since the only people who will ultimately be endangered by lousy manual drivers are the other manual drivers. The autonomous cars will be perfectly capable of avoiding (and, most likely, automatically r
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In the future I suspect that some people will still drive manually for pleasure,
That's fine, as long as they don't do it on a public road where they may endanger other people.
The whole "self-driving car" fad resembles the 3D-printer fad in more ways than one ("Everyone Will Have One!", "It will revolutionise $FOO"). And, much like the 3D printer fad, will dissipate into a few novelties on the road that will still need human drivers, but not much else.
Self-piloting aircraft is a much much much much easier problem to solve, and yet we still put meatbags into the pilot's seat. Once self-piloting aircraft is solved, then *maybe* (not certainly, but maybe) the problems with self-driv
Re: And what these morons will never understand.. (Score:2)
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Is that no one wants to be self driven. 99% of people want to drive themselves.
Actually, you're projecting... I suspect the majority of people will love self-driving cars...
YOU might not, and that's ok, but I want one...
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Yeah right. I say this as someone who rides performance motorcycles for fun and hence understand the enjoyment of driving. If I could get in a car every day and have it drive me to work while I was free to do work you couldn't sign me up fast enough.
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Google has the tech? (Score:2)
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How much testing have they done on snowed in and icy roads?
My wife has a Tesla, and before a big snowstorm last winter, she received an email from Tesla recommending that she use Autopilot during the storm, because it would navigate more reliably than a human on snow covered roads, and handle icy surfaces more safely.
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Wow, an email? Really? Well that settles it then! It must be true!
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What liability are they risking? If your wife is injured in an Autopilot related accident, what penalty will Tesla be made to bear?
This being America, the penalty will be whatever amount of money the plaintiff's lawyers can convince the jury to award. And, of course, a blizzard of bad publicity and the accompanying drop in sales -- there's nothing the press likes to more than to see a high flying company brought low.
Sounds like a weak attempt at publicity to me.
Sounds like they are pretty confident to me. Otherwise they'd be more cautious.
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Personally, I think that it is a good solution to obtain data for the next couple of years.
Re: Google has the tech? (Score:2)
Re: Google has the tech? (Score:2)
Re: Surveillance tech (Score:2)
I, for one, welcome or new SoccerMomBot overlords! (Score:2)
I, for one, welcome or new SoccerMomBot overlords!
Just in time for Mother's Day!
Unexpected development for me (Score:2)
I did not expect that. I expected that Google Car will always be a conceptual challenge to traditional manufacterers, who will have to work in this direction and gradually increase automation year by year, while Google Car never having a chance to become a real car manufacturer.
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I expected that Google Car will always be a conceptual challenge to traditional manufacterers, who will have to work in this direction and gradually increase automation year by year, while Google Car never having a chance to become a real car manufacturer.
Tesla proves that you can get into the market from scratch even today if you have a compelling product and can deliver it. The car companies are worried that Google is going to deliver it before Delphi or Bosch manages it, let alone before they figure it out in-house, and with good reason; They may not be there yet, but they really are further along than anyone else. No doubt they're also worried that they'll find Google partnered with Tesla and Uber and bypassing them completely in managing to squeeze what
Marchionne has been seeking partners (Score:3)
Sergio Marchionne, CEO of FCA, has been running around telling anyone who would listen that the auto company is going to need more partnerships in design and production. The rest of the industry has been saying "no, no we don't" and laughing at them for being failures. Well, I doubt they're laughing now. The auto industry has been alternately concerned and intrigued about the idea of partnering with Apple or Google on a self-driving car, because getting them involved will create some disruption in the market and the auto companies have had a good thing going here selling us minorly-revised crap for a long time.
"Who would be so desperate to partner with us?" (Score:2)
Is Google quality control good enough? (Score:1)
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I think it's sensible to expect a Google self driving car to do the same thing,
Who are you, and why should anyone care what you think about self-driving cars when you don't even know that google cars don't use google maps for navigation guidance?
Too bad they are doing this wrong (Score:2)
Good choice (Score:2)