Windows 10 Updates Are Now Ruining Pro-Gaming Streams (theguardian.com) 500
An anonymous reader cites a report on The Guardian: Perhaps there's nothing more annoying than going in for the kill to suddenly be "pooped on" by a Windows 10 automatic installation taking out your computer mid-stream to your 130,000 or so followers. After deciding to advertise during the weather by attempting to automatically install midway through a forecast, Windows 10 is starting to wreak havoc with gamers. Ex-professional Counter Strike player turned full-time streamer Erik Flom was rudely interrupted mid-game and live on Twitch by Windows 10 automatically installing on his PC. "What. What!? How did this happen! Fuck you Windows 10!" Flom said. "Oh my God! You had one job PC. We turned off everything. Update faster you fuck!"
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still recompiling (Score:5, Funny)
Nope, he's the BSD user, *I* am the Linux user.
But I couldn't show up earlier: I was busy recompiling my kernel, sorry for being late.
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#@4(^&6...CARRIER LOST
Becomes...
REBOOT... Your files are right where you left them!
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I'm trying to wrap my head around the concept of people not just making a little side money, but actually apparently a few making a decent living by streaming themselves playing fucking video games?!?!?
I mean seriously...people are paying people to do this?
Wow. I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't suffer anyone that making a buck any (legal) way they can, but really...someone can make up to and over 6-figures just by playing video games?
Who the fuck is PAYING these f
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Who the fuck is PAYING these folks to sit and watch them...???
Last year, more people physically traveled to a stadium to watch the League of Legends finals than did so for the College basketball finals.
Think about that a bit.
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Last year, more people physically traveled to a stadium to watch the League of Legends finals than did so for the College basketball finals.
That's because League of Legends is at least somewhat interesting.
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Viewers can subscribe to streamers for $5 a month. Part of which goes to the streamer. Subscribing gets you custom emotes and higher priviledges and perks on the site and elsewhere.
Most of these streamers also post content on Youtube. If the subscribed numbers get high enough, they can make a pretty penny from Youtube videos.
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> I mean seriously...people are paying people to do this?
I watch a little more professional video games in a year than I do other professional sports, though neither uses up too much of my time. Football is fun to watch, but so are pro streamers.
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Who the fuck is PAYING these folks to sit and watch them...???
There's an interesting documentary on Netflix about this called All Work All Play. I had no idea how big this really was. It is really interesting and exciting to see.
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Simple, it works like this. People directly communicating with people has done real damage to the marketing sites pretending to be end user focused magazines. You know the ones, bullshit reviews, crappy exaggerated stories, endlessly hyping product and on top of that selling add space on those advertisements, ads on ads. So people are comparing notes on how things actually come out, compared to those bull puckey marketing sites, pretending to be content magazines and are dropping them as they are dying, ta
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>a walkthru video makes sense
God that is one of my pet peeves. Having to watch a 8 minute long video of some guy that just likes to hear himself talk to get the one piece of information I need. One I could probably find in 10-20 seconds from a written walkthru...
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Same for "how do I.....?" questions about almost anything. I now append -youtube for such queries.
I respond much better to clearly written instructions - blurry screen caps with a 3-pixel mouse DO NOT contribute to my understanding.
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Yup. People devote their limited time on this planet to watching TV shows where people just sit around in a house and have inane conversations. They pay to watch people chase a small ball from one of the field to the other. Some consider it a week well spent grinding every night for some imaginary item in a game. And some consider it entertaining and worthwhile to go protest for the social justice cause of the week.
People like different things.
Finally! (Score:3, Informative)
Finally this is getting mainstream attention. Windows automatically updating with a big "fuck you" while you're doing work - and not even saving your fucking work - is one of the biggest most blatant lack of regard for their users I've ever seen. I shudder at how many man-years of work have been lost by this process.
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Linux doesn't do that...
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Most streamers use a separate streaming PC that captures the video output from the gaming PC as well as receiving audio and displaying the overlays onscreen. Probably the case here.
After looking at the video, it appeared to me that the streamer ALREADY had Windows 10. This was just an update (note the screen said "Installing updates FOR Windows 10).
In my experience, the update doesn't kick off automatically unless you have hit the "snooze" button (told Windows to wait) a few times over several days. Windows then just says "Fuck it" and installs anyway. Usually right when you are in the middle of something.
I'm not defending the practice. It sucks in my book, but that has been my experience.
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and....?
"Not now" is still the same thing as "NO dammit!"
i.e. No means no. NO three times does mean Yes.
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In windows 10, shutdowns are actually elided into hibernation. This means that if you turn your PC off at night or when you go out, with windows 10, you no longer get updates installed when you are not using the computer. Instead, the updates require you to actively initiate a reboot interactively - in other words, you can only install updates when you are actively using th
Irony!!! (Score:4, Insightful)
How long have Windows gamers been making fun of Linux?
Re:Irony!!! (Score:5, Informative)
YOU have control over cron jobs.
MICROSOFT has control over your Windows PC. Not you.
Re: Irony!!! (Score:5, Informative)
Unless you're doing something retarded, chron shouldn't be interfering with anything you do. Might consume background resources depending on what you've configured, but shouldn't ever pop any surprise windows or prompts, ever.
Re: Irony!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Windows does a terrible job supporting Linux games. Linux runs Linux games perfectly. This is a software problem.
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Linux is great for gaming. It runs Linux games without issue, and even many Windows games.
Windows is terrible for gaming: it only runs Windows games.
What you mean to say goes something like "It sure is unfortunate that developers don't build Linux versions of their games. I guess game developers suck at Linux!"
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Eh, I agree that Windows updates didn't suck this hard in the past. It really is inexcusable.
Windows 10 otherwise is leaps-and-bounds better than Vista, and in my opinion, it's better than 7 or 8.
I just wish, just once, Microsoft could put out a version of something that is only better in every way and not compromised by things like the new update/reboot policy.
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I just wish, just once, Microsoft could put out a version of something that is only better in every way and not compromised by things like the new update/reboot policy.
I feel the same way. We were holding off on buying some new machines until Windows 10 came out, because we had no interest in the touch screen focus of 8 and, somewhat, 8.1. We were really hoping 10 would be the better every-other-release version that fixed that but kept the various minor technical improvements. In reality, the privacy and lack of control with Windows 10 mean we can't install it on any work machine (instant compliance violations on several counts) and we won't install it at home (because I
Re:Irony!!! (Score:4, Informative)
Wesnoth? I suppose I could play that. Or one of the many other free games that are worth playing.
Or I could play one of the thousands of linux native games available on steam (4321 games according to http://store.steampowered.com/... [steampowered.com]) or gog or from humble bundles etc.
Many or most of those 4000+ games are probably crap, but the same is true for Windows games. 90% of everything is crap (according to Ted Sturgeon's famously pollyannaish adage).
Or I could play one of the thousands more windows games that work in WINE.
10+ years ago, I used to play games exclusively with WINE on Linux. Several years later, I built a Win7 box to play the games I purchased that wouldn't run (or ran badly) on WINE (most of which run perfectly on wine now).
In a year or two, I expect I'll be dumping the Win7 box and switching to exclusively playing Linux native games + WINE for the handful of windows-only games that i actually care about. I have more games in my steam account (on both Windows and Linux) than I have time to play...I don't feel that there's any lack of games available.
I certainly won't be running Windows 10, because my computers belong to me, not to Microsoft. And I have no wish to become Microsoft's product to be sold to advertisers and other spies.
(and, yes, I have removed/disabled/firewalled their spyware from Win7 - whatever it takes)
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After deciding to advertise during the weather by attempting to automatically install midway through a forecast, Windows 10 is starting to wreak havoc with gamers.
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After deciding to advertise during the weather segment on TV (by attempting to automatically install midway through a forecast), Windows 10 is now starting to wreak havoc with gamers.
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That's Windows 10, great new OS with improved abilities, able to annoy users even before it is installed.
windows has the time sense of a three-year old (Score:5, Funny)
"Hello, user. Windows here. Listen, I really need to shut down to update myself. Would you like me to do that immediately? Or would you like to be reminded again in four hours?"
"Remind me again in four hours."
"Gotcha, see you in four hours."
[Ten minutes later.]
"Hello, user. Windows here. Listen, I really need to shut down to update myself. Would you like me to do that immediately? Or would you like to be reminded again in four hours?"
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"Hello, user. Windows here. Listen, I really need to shut down to update myself. Would you like me to do that immediately? Or would you like to be reminded again in four hours?"
"Remind me again in four hours."
"Gotcha, see you in four hours."
[Ten minutes later.]
"Hello, user. Windows here. Listen, I really need to shut down to update myself. Would you like me to do that immediately? Or would you like to be reminded again in four hours?"
Mine's doing that at the mo, what happened to remind me tomorrow? Anyway it's a work pc and I have no admin so the updates fail to install anyway.
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PC: "Hi, Windows here, I'm so glad you decided to shut down your laptop, because now I can install those updates that I downloaded and didn't feel were worth the trouble of asking you about earlier! It'll only take about 15-20 minutes!"
My friend: "But I want to put my laptop away so I can leave now?"
Me: (Really, he should at least use Hibernate instead of insisting on shut down every time.)
Yea Microsoft... (Score:2)
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User's fault. (Score:2, Funny)
Unlike Linux, where its elitist pricks tell users to RTFM, us Windows users are superior. We just blame the user for being a fucking retard and not selecting the clearly defined "Don't update to Windows 10" option that's not there, and when they manage to hack the registry to disable the update, Microsoft just reverts the setting anyway!
Windows > Linux
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How would this be captured on streaming? (Score:2)
Part of me wants to say it's his own damn fault, thought who knows, Windows seems to have no problem changing its own settings after updates.
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on my wife's laptop, it had been asking her for months if she wanted to upgrade to Windows 10, and she kept clicking no thanks. Well, last week it tried a new tactic -- it said "do you want to upgrade to Windows 10 now, or later?" she picked "later" (meaning never), but the thing dutifully upgraded to Windows 10 once she walked away! i guess it figured it was "later" and had her permission. (and yes of course she fucking hates it, it adds nothing of value!)
nasty trick, Microsoft!
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GWX Control Panel FTW.
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/
You know your product sucks when other people create and distribute code to prevent your product from succeeding. Tobacco vendors get more love.
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I want my Win8 back, Win10 has nothing major wrong with it, just a bunch of minor things that add up to a real PITA. Updating/rebooting when my laptop is closed is at the top of the list, pisses me off everytime I open the laptop in the morning and find out all my programs are closed.
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do you want to upgrade to Windows 10 now, or later
reminds me of that great Bugs & Daffy cartoon quote [imdb.com]:
Bugs Bunny: Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home?
Daffy Duck: Shoot him now! Shoot him now!
Bugs Bunny: You keep outta this! He doesn't have to shoot you now!
Daffy Duck: He does so have to shoot me now!
[to Elmer]
Daffy Duck: I demand that you shoot me now!
[Elmer shoots him.]
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MS finally got me to run MacOS for work and Linux at home on the desktop.
Took them forever to break Windows this badly.
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The win10 upgrade is, for better or for worse, treated pretty much the exactly same as these other windows 7 updates. Once you've started it, its committed to do it.
No. Absolutely not. This is the only update Microsoft has ever produced where you agree to do the install one day, while running Windows Update, and then the install happens on another day in the far far future because it was scheduled to do so, and not because it failed and was repeated later.
So is there a way to disable it? (Score:2)
So is there a way to disable it?
I have Pro so I used the group policy to let me choose whether I want to install updates and when to install them.
But the huge fullscreen nag screen that takes over your entire windows session and cannot be dismissed still pops up.
There *has* to be a way to disable this, or you're going to start seeing these nag screens appearing on more news/weather broadcasts/internet streams/airport displays/etc worldwide as windows 10 continues to roll out.
Fuck, imagine getting it on an A
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Yes.
Import this into your registry.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx]
"DisableGwx"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"DisableOSUpgrade"=dword:00000001
I've done this on 4 or 5 machines at work that we have to keep on 7 and any sign of Windows 10 has completely vanished.
Hope this helps.
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And this is why... (Score:2)
I had made my Windows 8.0 install work nicely for me. It never pestered me to upgrade to 10, but I need security updates. I never installed 8.1 because I didn't want to risk the stability of my Laptop that was working just fine. So, last month, I got new drives and installed Ubuntu 16.04. I'm going to miss the Windows-only games on Steam that I never played anyway. Still working out some minor annoyances, but it has been working well for me so far.
(Anybody know how to make the alt key keep the menu ope
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Actually that's the problem not the solution. It looks like this is the "Fall Update". You can defer a patch for up to 6 months. It looks like he just hit the 6 month mark of deferring all upgrades.
The real solution isn't to never check for updates, the real solution is to periodically actually install updates when it's convenient to do so. Updates are like peeing. You can hold it for a while, but it's smart to go when you have a minute or else you're liable to piss yourself at an inopportune time
Windows 10: you got us free/forced..now we own you (Score:2)
I love Windows 10! (Score:3, Interesting)
people used to ask "why don't you use windows?" but since Windows 10 started pestering everyone, people actually ask serious questions about switching to Linux. :D
Dear Microsoft, (Score:5, Interesting)
As a somewhat hardened veteran of software installation, and the unbounded stupidity that arises from boneheaded mistakes that occur, I would like to point out the following:
Windows 10 Update installation does not follow the guidelines for updating as explicitly laid out in your software, that is "we will update when you are not using the computer". To help matters further, we will specifically exclude during the following hours "8am to 5:30pm".
So WHY THE FUCK WAS THERE AN UNCONTROLLED INSTALLATION OF AN OS UPDATE AT 4PM TODAY DURING THE TIME I WAS ACTIVELY USING THE SYSTEM? And when I say uncontrolled, it was not "oh click later to install, it was "we are rebooting now to install, OK". No deferral, no postponement, just instant notice.
Not to mention that the reboot occurred during a very intense multiplayer fight that I was the host of, which effectively drop-kicked several players out into the ether without me being able to contact them to let them know what was going on.
Did you mean 8am - to 5:30pm my local time, or that of the Microsoft HQ, in sunny whereever? It is bad enough that games developers can't actually remember how many days there are in April, yet to fuck up simple time management for updating has to be some fairly serious mismanagement on the part of senior design leads.
Or could it be that it completely ignores it like the boneheaded mechanism that only allows 10hour "active" windows slot, because there is no possible reason why people at home could not be using it from 7 in the morning until midnight? or am I completely in the dark about usability that requires a 14 hour window to update on a daily basis?
Of course to further the boneheaded-ness it completely fucked the graphics drivers, where it greenscreened just at idle on the desktop - to the point I had to continuously reboot until I could get to the stage where I could get a CMD prompt up and manage to type "shutdown /o /r /t 1" to get a relatively swift reboot into a mode where I say yes, I want to run a troubleshooting step, and reboot, and then select safe mode, and then reboot into it.
Not to mention that it has been a known problem with the graphics drivers since the last update, and putting it down to "it is the responsibility of the driver manufacturers (Microsoft Engineer)" is disingenuous at best, as MS is supposed to have WHQL'd the drivers, which means that MS should have caught this problem much earlier in testing during the automated build and test phase.
To top that then off, I can't run Microsoft EDGE because the "built in administrator account can't run it".... I can't run explorer because you've managed to switch of the command searching in the cortana interface, which means that I can't run taskmanager, command, etc. What stupidity of a design decision managed to get authorised to create this situation?
The insider fast ring is supposed to be a way to bring light problems that exist in interaction with components. Fucking with AMD graphics drivers in this way isn't an acceptable manner of implementing software best practices.
Now I have to spend an hour fucking around with Device driver uninstaller, because in the infinite wisdom, you've managed to disable any ability of the driver software to recognise that there is an installed device, so of course the programs bomb out with a "no recognised device" so we won't do anything remotely sensible like uninstall the graphics drivers. Then I have to spend an hour waiting whilst I roll back the installation, then reinstall drivers, then reboot, reset up profiles, and ... then reboot again. That is a considerable amount of unnecessary reboots as you rush to get untested, useless additions out into the population.
Yours,
Entirely Hacked Off
This happened to me (Score:3)
I'm a Mac guy, and only use W10 to run this game - it's nothing but a launcher as far as I'm concerned. Macs may be many things (and a great gaming platform isn't one of them, hence I have a PC for that), but I can't imagine a Mac ever doing something this obnoxious. If they ever do, that's the end of me upgrading for sure.
If anyone knows how I can disable this I'm all ears. I have everything else disabled that I can see - location, Cortana, etc, etc, but it STILL thinks it knows better.
Common Misconception re windows 10 (Score:3)
People seem to think that it is windows TEN that they're getting, when 10 is binary, pure and simple. That is why the question posed to the user is always 1-Yes 0-No There is really no representation for 'later' in binary. MS should simply post the EULA as the real question, with the usual two choices at the end: Agree or decline. This way, you are already familiar with the deception er I mean the EULA, and can respond accordingly
Let's be fair, here (Score:3)
You may say this is a minor distinction: the PC still rebooted when he didn't want it to - but it's still shoddy journalism with an obvious axe to grind. This isn't a case of Windows being forced down someone's throat - it's a case of a normal Windows Update, which would have been warning him for hours of the pending reboot and he had the opportunity to disable.
Furthermore, how did Microsoft get into the position of forcing reboots for updates on people? Because people ignored updates, otherwise, resulting in millions of unpatched XP boxes and everyone blaming Microsoft. So Microsoft is damned if they do and damned if they don't.
As much as I hate the forced reboot effect of patches, I know how we got to this point and I understand why it's like this. Microsoft updates do warn you and allow you to put the reboot off for 1 or 4 hours (repeatedly) so again, I think he had some opportunity to prevent this. Additionally, he's effectively a "professional sportsman", so he should know his equipment. It's not like you cannot turn off automated updates. He should have done that. If his job revolves around needing his PC to not be interrupted in real time, he should have taken the simple steps required to make that happen.
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Why would being a gamer mean that you would actually be any good at administering a computer?
Most people in the office use computers all day, and still had no idea that you can Ctrl-C to copy selected text.
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I guess knowing how to google is a very hard skill to learn.
I can offer only one datapoint that suggests that it may, indeed, be out of reach for many:
http://lmgtfy.com/ [lmgtfy.com]
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Google offers classes.
http://www.powersearchingwithg... [powersearc...google.com]
-- /. Please fix.
Disable advertising broken. Minimum threshold broken
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Google offers classes. http://www.powersearchingwithg... [powersearc...google.com]
-- Disable advertising broken. Minimum threshold broken /. Please fix.
I'd be happy if they'd just fix the FOREVER spinny-thing when you Post.
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I run "Classic Discussion System (D1)" and I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Is that something you see on a particular device or browser or is it a problem with the new "Interactive Discussion System (D2)"?
A lot of the settings appear to be frozen as changes don't save.
I don't know what you mean about "Classic Discussion System" vs "Interactive Discussion System". I understand the words; but don't know how to tell which one I am using. If it helps, it is the Discussion System that LOOKS like Slashdot has looked for basically ever.
It happens on my work Win 7 laptop running Chrome, and on my iPad running Mobile Safari. That's the only two things I browse Slashdot with. And it just started doing this about 2 weeks ago.
My comments Post just fine; I just have to ignore the
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I guess knowing how to google is a very hard skill to learn.
If you don't know about keyboard shortcuts, have never even heard the term keyboard shortcuts, why would you even think to google "copy keyboard shortcut"? Claiming that people who don't know how to copy text with just their keyboard don't know how to use google, is very arrogant of you. I'm sure there are plenty of topics of which you don't know that you don't know, and thus have no reason to suspect a need to google them.
Re:Computer literacy is at all times low (Score:5, Insightful)
Why would being a gamer mean that you would actually be any good at administering a computer?
Why would being good at administrating a computer mean that you could disable Windows 10 -related updates?
Re:Computer literacy is at all times low (Score:5, Insightful)
Why would being a gamer mean that you would actually be any good at administering a computer?
Kids these days, real gamers used to know how to free 640K better than anyone else.
One Yorkshireman (Score:5, Funny)
But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.
[Cue ZX81 owner...]
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It randomly turns itself back on with other updates.
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We turned off everything
Apparently these guys suck at turning off "everything". The only way I have found that works to keep Windows 10 away is to completely turn off Windows Update. Yes, Windows will nag at you. Yes, this will leave you (gasp!) unprotected, but malware is depending less and less on OS exploits these days, and more on browser exploits and user stupidity. OS patches won't protect you from your own stupidity.
Why? Because if you "hide" KB3035583, after a few weeks or months, Microsoft will "update" the patch. A patc
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So far it should be sufficient to limit Windows Update to "important" updates but don't let it collect "recommended" updates. KB3035583 is only "recommended", not "important".
If you don't trust Microsoft even that far, you could switch off Windows Update and use a third-party tool like WSUS Offline Update instead ( http://www.wsusoffline.net/ [wsusoffline.net]) which will do essentially the same, with some extra blacklisting by the maker of WSUS Offline Update.
Obviously this means trusting some guy on the internet more than M
Re:Computer literacy is at all times low (Score:4, Funny)
Obviously this means trusting some guy on the internet more than Microsoft
No problem then.
Re:Computer literacy is at all times low (Score:5, Informative)
The problem is not computer literacy but a lack of control over Windows Update in Windows 10. While earlier versions had options like "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them" and "Download updates but let me chose whether to install them" Windows 10 has no such options. Windows 10 just downloads and installs the updates at a set time (3:00am).
As for turning off Win 10 crapware, Windows Update isn't really crapware but an essential feature to get security updates. Turning it off would not be a good idea.
This is the issue with Windows Update in Windows 10, your options are to turn it off entirely and get no security updates, or let it do whatever you want. If you don't want a particular update there's not much you can do. If you uninstall it Windows 10 update will just reinstall it. You can use the tool to defer a particular update (which is a separate download and doesn't come with Windows 10), but the update will still get installed when a newer version comes out.
You basically have no control.
Re: Computer literacy is at all times low (Score:3)
No, that's not true. At best, windows 10 permits you to defer updates, but not outright refuse them.
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I mean would you expect a Construction Worker to use the same $30 drill (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-5-5-Amp-3-8-in-Variable-Speed-Drill-D43K/205216326) that I use at home?
The difference here is that there is no difference whatsoever between the internals of the different kinds of Windows, and it costs Microsoft literally $0 more to press the pro CDs. The two situations are not at all analogous.
Re:What the hell is 'Pro Gaming'? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why are we allowing Video Gaming to become a spectator sport?
Why do you think you should have a say in "allowing" something to become a "spectator sport"? It affects you in almost no way whatsoever. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Other people do like watching it, so let them spend their time and money on what they enjoy. I think it's idiotic, but idiots will do what idiots do.
Re:What the hell is 'Pro Gaming'? (Score:5, Insightful)
Aside from the whole problem of 'Pro Gaming' in general: what the heck? Why are we allowing Video Gaming to become a spectator sport? Personally I don't care about somebody's spot on a leaderboard. I go into games like World of Warcraft to immerse myself in a virtual world. Once you accept that there are 'winners' in such endeavors, you automatically become a loser.
Aside from the whole problem of "Pro Sports" in general: what the heck? Why are we allowing football to become a spectator sport? Personally I don't care about somebody's spot on a line of scrimmage. I go into games like football to immerse myself in the physical sport. Once you accept that there are 'winners' in such endeavors, you automatically become a loser.
What's with all the negative "I don't care, surely no one else does! Why is this on Slashdot?!" comments lately? Go moderate the firehose.
To respond directly to your comment, most IT professionals aren't even professionals, so it's no wonder that video game professionals don't have the necessary expertise to tune their systems properly.
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If Gaming 'Professionals' aren't capable and responsible enough to properly firewall away problems like this from the computers they are using as their 'studios' for their broadcasting operations, they aren't really very professional.
Aside from the whole problem of 'Pro Gaming' in general: what the heck? Why are we allowing Video Gaming to become a spectator sport? Personally I don't care about somebody's spot on a leaderboard. I go into games like World of Warcraft to immerse myself in a virtual world. Once you accept that there are 'winners' in such endeavors, you automatically become a loser.
I keep saying the same thing about football but no one seems to care.... Watching sports is for lazy mamma's boys.
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I remember when people said that about XP. Yet, here we all are.
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I remember when people said that about XP. Yet, here we all are.
Yes, here I am with XP still in a VM. I boot it up when those Indian guys phone me to tell me I have a virus and let them play with it for half an hour.
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Because the simple fact of the matter is it isn't a terrible OS in the eyes of the average consumer. It mostly performs as advertised and is a "free" upgrade. Think about the reasons there was backlash against some of Microsoft's other recent OS busts - Windows ME-Unstable as hell, Windows Vista - slow as a dog, annoying UAC prompts, and lack of driver support. These are all things that most people can see and experience. Unfortunately, being spyed on by media companies is turning into an average daily exp
Re:Simple question (Score:4, Insightful)
It's gonna have to wait at least until Windows 10 kills somebody (say, by shutting down their hospital life support to install updates) for that to happen, and probably not even then.
Re: Incorrect hit piece (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, depending on your windows update settings, windows 10 can fully automatically install without any user intervention, and in fact does so. What happens though is it upgrades you're machine to 10, boots to it, and then shows you an EULA, which if you decline, then it downgrades back to 7.
This is really not a nice thing to do to your customers, and even automatically uninstalls software that it deems incompatible with 10.
Re: Incorrect hit piece (Score:4, Insightful)
I've seen two failures to revert to 7. Six hours of troubleshooting and I finally gave up, and started a fresh install of 7.
It seems that W10 did something to the boot sector of the drive. Recovery fixboot, fixmbr, etc, etc, enable all legacy/UEFI boot in the BIOS - none of it worked. I could see the partitions when the HDD was plugged into another machine, so I was able to rescue the customer's data, but it just wouldn't boot the OS - not even a splash screen. Had to boot to recovery from an installation disc.
W10 will have to stabilise (and I mean that in the most generous sense) before I'm prepared to recommend it to customers. W7 end-of-life isn't until 2020, it'll do just fine until then.
Re: Incorrect hit piece (Score:4, Insightful)
This gamer should be setting the time to not when he's streaming.
That's by far the wrong answer, enough to the point that the term 'gross incompetence' comes to mind. No well working software should ever automatically do anything that has a high risk of completely trashing your system without i.e. giving you the opportunity to back up your data. (And worse is that this thing sets you up for two high risk operations, in addition to deleting software you have without asking you.)
It happens (Score:3)
The 10 upgrade was changed to a critical update where previously it was optional. So you can disable updates all together or use something like GWX Control Panel to kill the pending upgrade.
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>> Your tools and workplace should be specially tuned for that. ...except you can't "tune" or otherwise prevent updates under Windows 10.
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My browser does not require reboots to self-update. On the other hand, my software DVR, video transcoding jobs or Plex server do not take well to reboots. Also, this is my computer and gaming is a pure leisure activity where threshold of inconvenience is pretty low. I want to pause the game and then instantly pick it up exactly where I left it a couple of days later. Not log in, then sit through 5 minutes of "working on updates", then wait for game to load, then restart from last savepoint. Every other comp