Too Fat For Facebook: Photo Banned For Depicting Body In 'Undesirable Manner' (theguardian.com) 485
An anonymous reader shares a report on The Guardian: Facebook has apologized for banning a photo of a plus-sized model and telling the feminist group that posted the image that it depicts "body parts in an undesirable manner". Cherchez la Femme, an Australian group that hosts popular culture talkshows with "an unapologetically feminist angle", said Facebook rejected an advert featuring Tess Holliday, a plus-sized model wearing a bikini, telling the group it violated the company's "ad guidelines". After the group appealed against the rejection, Facebook's ad team initially defended the decision, writing that the photo failed to comply with the social networking site's "health and fitness policy". "Ads may not depict a state of health or body weight as being perfect or extremely undesirable," Facebook wrote. "Ads like these are not allowed since they make viewers feel bad about themselves. Instead, we recommend using an image of a relevant activity, such as running or riding a bike." In a statement on Monday, Facebook apologized for its original stance and said it had determined that the photo does comply with its guidelines.Facebook said that its team scans millions of ad images every week, and sometimes understandably misses out on a few.
How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:4, Insightful)
...their busy schedule of banning conservatives for daring to say that they ban conservatives [heatst.com] to determine what an appropriate bikini body is...
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:4, Insightful)
It does confirm that it was the right decision to close and delete my facebook account 3 or 4 weeks after using facebook and still not seeing the point of it.
Now seeing how busy facebook seems to become in policing what its users might want to see, good riddance Facebook... ...not nearly ruing as much having signed up here a "while" ago... ;-)
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:4, Funny)
Well I for one welcome our new bikini-clad land-whale overlords.
Please help me understand (Score:4, Insightful)
I just want to be clear about what is being discussed here:
1) The feminist group wants to show photos of half-naked obese women because it helps to "destroy" the concept of the perfect body?
(Already, I'm completely lost. How does this work exactly? Men see a fat woman in a bikini, and start to get turned on -- thereby changing the standards of beauty? Would that work with other images too?)
2) The feminist group wants men to stop "objectifying women" physically, so they are using a photograph of a fat woman in a bikini to help us stop thinking about women ... in terms of their physical bodies.
(Swoooooooosh!...that was some kind of feminist logic doing a low-altitude fly-by somewhere near my head)
Re:Please help me understand (Score:5, Funny)
It's like how I try to convince women that a being a fat, alcoholic slob is attractive by posting pictures of myself passed out naked on the street.
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Warcraft 3, dryad unit, line after being clicked a bunch:
Want to hear my human call? said in Valley Girl voice "I'm so wasted--I'm sooo wasted!"
Re: Please help me understand (Score:5, Insightful)
The point comes off to me as being that some people aren't happy with the fact that most males have their own ideas about what is attractive to them (which sometimes includes other males while excluding all females) and that often means no attractiveness to certain body types, of which being grossly overweight often falls out of bounds (which if you consider evolution, that actually does make sense.)
I don't think it is right or wrong for anybody to have a particular thing that they're attractive to and thus want to prefer it, rather, it just is, and that's life. However I do think it is wrong for people to shame other people for not wanting a relationship with a certain segment of the population. For example, if you're white and you don't want to ever date a black person, that is perfectly acceptable.
Re: Please help me understand (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not about individual's preferences.
Here's a tip though. The novelty of having a magazine body wears off quickly. And it doesn't guarantee good sex either. It certainly doesn't correlate with a good personally or good relationship either. Once the lights are off, once you get into doing things together... there are more important things.
Also, there is something wrong with not ever wanting to date a black person. What possible reason could there be other than racism? Black people have all body types, all personality types... if it's just skin colour, that's terrible.
That might be the way you want things to be, but our biology doesn't work that way. Believe it or not, it is completely impossible for a male to control whether or not he has an erection and thus can even have intercourse. It truly is an involuntary function, much like your heartbeat. Sure, you can produce the circumstances that cause you to have an erection, just like you can run to cause your heart to beat faster, but it still remains out of your control. This is also why it's possible for a female to rape a male, triggering involuntary ejaculation. Similar biological processes determine what the male would rather have in a mate, and that can exclude any number of things, big or small, from hair color to personality.
Likewise, it's not racist to have no attraction to somebody of the opposite race, just as it's not sexist for homosexuals to have no attraction to the opposite sex.
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I wish I could be like you and control my ejaculation through thought alone. That way, instead of having to watch porn and waste 5 minutes masturbating, I could just think about it and tada! Instant orgasm!
When I think about all the money I spent, all the time I wasted, and all the shit I had to do simply to have sex... I sincerely envy you.
Re: Please help me understand (Score:3)
Even if you orgasm with thought alone, you're creating the circumstances that will trigger it; thought alone can make your heart beat faster as well. However you can't just orgasm on demand, and if you could have an erection on demand, then nobody would ever buy Viagra.
And no, attractiveness or lack thereof isn't ever racist. I found myself less attracted to this girl I knew who changed her hair to blonde, and I don't have anything against blonde, I'm just not as attracted to it. And guess what? That's very
Re: Please help me understand (Score:5, Funny)
I wish I could be like you and control my ejaculation through thought alone. That way, instead of having to watch porn and waste 5 minutes masturbating, I could just think about it and tada! Instant orgasm!
The Internet has some pictures of fat chicks in bikinis if that would help.
Re: Please help me understand (Score:4, Insightful)
Err, no. I see people talking about black skin and light skin in the conversation. That's skin colour, not race. You do know that there's more than one race with black skin, don't you? Just like there's more than one race with light skin.
Well if you want to be a dick and split hairs over semantics then you're wrong because humans are just one race.
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:5, Interesting)
I "deactivated" my account a couple years ago. My only regret is that I didn't follow various guides to delete it completely, or as completely as can happen. But logging back in to the account in order to delete it at this point is not something I want to do so I'm letting sleeping dogs lie.
I hate Facebook more than is probably rational, though. Both for solid IT nerd reasons like the rest of us but also because it had a huge hand in ruining my marriage. Yes there were other issues there, but Facebook certainly didn't help.
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It does confirm that it was the right decision to close and delete my facebook account 3 or 4 weeks after using facebook and still not seeing the point of it.
After 3-4 weeks I'm not surprised you don't see the utility in a service that requires you to build up a large network of diverse people in order to gain the benefits.
In other news I installed Tinder this morning. I'm still single now so I don't see the point and deleted it.
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Did you see that picture? I nearly went blind. Why would anyone want to look at that.
Well, to be fair... The concept of beauty is widely debated now and has changed greatly over the years.
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:5, Insightful)
I fail to see the need to be fair to that 350+ pound beshemoth. She left 'plus sized' behind a tenth of a ton ago. If it is harmful to show young girls images of models considered too thin to be healthy, it must be equally harmful to show images of "models" that are three cupcakes away from losing a foot, or exploding their overburdened hearts. The "healthy at every size" thing is dangerous nonsense.
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I fail to see the need to be fair to that 350+ pound beshemoth. She left 'plus sized' behind a tenth of a ton ago. If it is harmful to show young girls images of models considered too thin to be healthy, it must be equally harmful to show images of "models" that are three cupcakes away from losing a foot, or exploding their overburdened hearts. The "healthy at every size" thing is dangerous nonsense.
So, what about "healthy" sized people that are smoking, vaping, dipping, are doing something risky and dangerous with their life that could also be teaching people it's ok to partake in these dangerous and potentially fatal activities? I personally think it's 100% insane to bungie jump, sky dive, base jump, etc just for the thrill and every one of those people are 1 mechanical failure from death. Does that mean I should be allowed to ban their pics?
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Your analogy is off. Instead of banning skydiving pics, ban pics of junkies shooting up. That's precisely what Tess Munster is all about. "I am morbidly obese and I love it - you can be morbidly obese and love it, too!" Until that first amputation. The beetus is coming for Tess. She should not be recruiting others into her world of impending doom.
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Your analogy is off. Instead of banning skydiving pics, ban pics of junkies shooting up.
Incorrect. People skydiving are needlessly endangering themselves with an activity that has 0 value to me. They are the same and my analogy was correct.
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Morbid obesity is not an activity, and it has negative (not zero) value to you and everyone else in terms of tangible societal cost (mostly in health care).
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:5, Insightful)
"Fat Self Acceptance" is one thing and "Fat Acceptance" is quite another. I have no problem with the former. The latter, however, is nothing more than misery attempting to create company for itself by encouraging morbid obesity in others. That's harmful, disgusting and frankly intolerable.
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:5, Insightful)
You really fail to see the point of fat acceptance.
Fat acceptance is exactly as harmful as pro-ana/pro-mia or promoting smoking.
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:5, Insightful)
Or maybe "fat acceptance" leads to inaction because, what the heck, it's okay to step on a scale and for it to say "One at a time, please."
Nobody should be complacent being way past morbidly obese. You can say you're a happy happy hippo all you want, but you'll be a dead dead hippo if you don't take action.
Obesity is the #2 killer nowadays. Keep this up, it will be #1.
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Or maybe "fat acceptance" leads to inaction because, what the heck, it's okay to step on a scale and for it to say "One at a time, please."
That sounds like a testable hypothesis...and science shows the opposite is true. [washingtonpost.com]
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:4, Insightful)
The results were based on a survey, rather than experimental data, so you can't make conclusions about whether the fat-shaming actually caused the weight gain.
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:5, Insightful)
Once someone labels themselves as Fat and Ugly then they lose hope and stops trying to live a healthy lifestyle.
So I was fat once. 260 was my high water mark. One day I thought to myself "Holy shit, I'm fat as fuck and this sucks". Know what I did? Something. Through diet and exercise, I lost 70 pounds. Labeling myself fat gave me the motivation to not be fat. If I had thought "I'm fat and I'm OK with this", I'd still be fat, probably fatter.
I also worked for several years doing shitty low paying jobs. One day I said "Holy shit, this job fucking sucks" and I went back to school to start a career. If I had said "This job sucks, but I'm fine with it" I'd probably be 400 pounds, or dead.
Without realizing how low you are, you may never find a reason to crawl out of it. Labeling yourself as fat, or a failure, or whatever, is not a negative thing. It all depends on what you do with that realization. You can bitch out, or you can do something about it. Your call, but don't blame society for making you 'feel bad' and then give up.
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, it is important to be realistic about where you are, while at the same time realizing that you can always be more than that. If anything, that should be the message here. If someone is fat, then call a spade a spade, but remain supportive of their struggle to become healthier and also uphold their confidence that they are a person who, no matter what their weight is, is a good person. It's just that they are a good person with a disease they should fight, not just accept.
On the other hand, there's obese and there's perfect. No one is going to go from fat to Hollywood hot, and not even stars do that without a full staff and a lot of money. The goal should always what makes you healthier and more comfortable. Don't let "perfect" become the enemy of "good".
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If you can toss her over your shoulder and carry her away she's not to big. Just saying...
Although I'm not really into tattooed girls no matter how skinny they are.
*sigh* Lucy Lawless *sigh* (Score:2)
If she can't toss me over her shoulder and carry me away she's not big enough.
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My friend got his picture taken with some UFC fighters when he went to see them fight and they were so tiny compared to him. Lucy is only like 5' 10".
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She's only 5ft 4in I could toss her over my shoulder.
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Speaking as someone who has lifted 350 lbs in a gym with safety equipment and a spotter, you are not going to toss anything weighing 350 lbs over your shoulder unless you're built. You'd probably have to be stronger than average to even move that with a fireman's carry. That's both heavy and the weight is not going to be well distributed.
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Irony is the use of words expressing something other than their literal intention.
I'm so sorry... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... (Score:5, Interesting)
False equivalence. You're treating two things, one subjective (what's sexy) and one objective (what's healthy) as if they were equivalent. They aren't.
This feminist group is doing likewise. Acceptance of unhealthy obesity is tantamount to abuse. It's statistical murder. Instead of encouraging people (let's face it here, they're focused on women, but the same applies to men as well) who are obese to, you know, do the work to get to an objectively healthy body weight and save their lives, they're encouraging these women to revel in their obesity and thereby shorten these women's lives. And that's pro-woman?
If you're into BBW, all the power to ya. But don't pretend like you're doing those women any long-term favours. You're participating in their deaths just as surely as if you stuffed the twinkie in their mouth yourself.
As to Facebook, they should really stay the fuck out of it. Allow groups who promote healthy body images to flourish. The proper response to negative speech like this group's is positive speech, not banning.
Quickie Mart (Score:5, Insightful)
Facebook is like a convenience store. You go there for specific and fairly basic reasons: share photos with families and friends, let them know what's going on in your life, message each other and arrange get togethers...probably 90% of what a person does on Facebook.
But, like a convenience store, the places is polluted with hundreds of items you have no interest in and would never buy or use. And if you did actually want any of it, you sure as hell wouldn't get it from a convenience store....or Facebook.
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...their busy schedule of banning conservatives for daring to say that they ban conservatives [heatst.com] to determine what an appropriate bikini body is...
They just trying to compensate by moderating conservatively as well as liberally.
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Honestly, most people find a "plus sized model" disgusting. Most people also don't enjoy seeing disgusting things while browsing facebook. Ergo, that ad should stay banned.
Uh, huh. You know what? You don't have a right to not be disgusted, any more than you have a right to not be offended.
internet scandal of the week (Score:5, Insightful)
Not just 'unhealthy' bodies. (Score:2)
Repulsive is still Repulsive regardless of "spin" (Score:2)
Anybody can dispute otherwise, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So sue me.
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Dating site ads.... (Score:2)
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I have no problem with photo shopped breasts to 200% of their size.
I prefer small breasts, as long as fat ladies don't shrink their breasts to get my attention, all is fine.
How a society became so ill that woman think breasts so big that you get spine issues are a "good thing" or sexy or beautiful is beyond me.
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How a society became so ill that woman think breasts so big that you get spine issues are a "good thing" or sexy or beautiful is beyond me.
It's called sexual dimorphism. Why do you think "society" has anything to do with it?
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There's a basic difference between X is good (and if you are ~X, by implication you suck) and ~X is bad, and if you are ~X, fuck you.
I think it's fine to say that ads shouldn't show fat people and advertise weight loss products. Whereas, dating sites (and many others) obviously use sex to sell.
Facebook vs. Feminists (Score:5, Insightful)
It's a bit like a reverse Alien vs. Predator.
Whoever loses
We win
Obligatory Simpson's YouTube (Score:2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Let's be honest. (Score:2)
Many of the +sized model are really ++++++++++++++++sized. :D
They managed to fuck up the pirelli calendar with that.
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Yeah, and then i actually looked at the picture on TFA. 10*plus size indeed.
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Many of the +sized model are really ++++++++++++++++sized. :D
They managed to fuck up the pirelli calendar with that.
But it works great for Michelin [pinimg.com].
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I guess Bibendum are the exception. :)
Is this really healthy? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'll bet that nobody would kick up much of a fuss if they decided to ban a photo of an anorexic model. Tess Holiday, being morbidly obese, obviously suffers from disordered eating due to a food addiction, yet is paraded around as some kind of paragon of moral virtue, while pictures of women with anorexia would be censored for being harmful to little girls. But seriously, do you think that presenting a morbidly obese woman as a socially acceptable norm sends girls a message about body image that is any less harmful?
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According to the SJW crowd. losing weight makes you fatphobic: http://i.imgur.com/0v0bHs0.png [imgur.com]
And if you're able to stand on your own then you are as healthy as anyone else: http://i.imgur.com/URsVifV.jpg [imgur.com]
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The SJW crowd are a never ending source of comedy. I liked the recent one about huffpo's all woman editorial meeting. Comedy gold.
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"According to the SJW crowd. losing weight makes you fatphobic"
Not to mention you have to be careful now if you post a photo of yourself getting fit and skinny quickly after giving birth. That also means you hate fat people and are pressuring them to lose weight.
Taking the "fat phobia" further, it's getting to the point where if a man chooses a skinny woman over a fat one, he must hate fat people. People need to be "trained" to find fat women more attractive because they have been "trained" to think otherwise and must be wrong. If you don't date someone overweight there is a problem with you.
There are actually services for women to rate doctors that don't harp people to lose weight when they are obese. It's pure insanity when a doctor can't express concern over someones well being because it may trigger them.
Re:Is this really healthy? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's a complex topic (I keep saying that about things...).
There's a fairly-curvy model out there who did a bunch of ads pushing back on fat shaming, claiming she's proud to be fat. SHE'S HAWT. Seriously. She has firm abs. She's got larger, padded, but firm thighs. She has a narrow waist, broad hips, and an overall-feminine form. She is the depiction of beauty in old Greek art. This is not a fat chick.
That should tell you something about this whole political wargarble.
People are going out with 600-pound land whales shaped like miniature cattle and claiming they're healthy and proud and there's nothing wrong with them. Bullshit. They're morbidly obese. "Morbidly" does not mean "I disagree with this because it hurts my little feelings"; it means "you are exposed to severe health problems."
Fat people are unhealthy. The additional belly fat causes more heart burn, leading to esophageal cancer and bad teeth (and halitosis). They're more at-risk for diabeetus. Their hearts have to work harder, but aren't equipped to work harder--larger, more buff people have made more work for their hearts while making their hearts stronger--and so are more prone to failure. Their metabolism isn't burning all the crap away, so their blood cholesterol is more likely to clot and get stuck in odd places (coronary arteries, cranial arteries, etc., heart attacks and strokes are bad). They also smell bad--we can put smokers on that list, too.
That's what "morbidly obese" is: you're fat to the point of serious damage to yourself.
On top of all that, what makes a good body image is not what you think about your body; it's what society thinks about it. What *we* find attractive is what *is* attractive. There's fat-chick dudes who go riding the hog, and that's their business, and you and them can get along just fine; but when 98% of all dudes are telling you you're way too fat and not attractive, that means you're way too fat and not attractive. It's the same as if I started insisting all girls are supposed to want to have sex with me because I'm pantie-melting hot--I can keep saying it, but it's not gonna get any more true unless I start doing some serious push-ups. Stick with your fat fetish man and stop telling us all what we're supposed to think about it.
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You've made an extensive presentation about how her life choices are unhealthy. True, that it is a matter of choice is extremely scientifically debatable, but let's roll with it.
Please add in the part explaining how her health is your business.
Because they are claiming it is healthy. Since that is the claim, that makes it the subject for the discussion.
Screw Tess Holiday, she's a scammer (Score:5, Interesting)
Her response to this? Blame everyone but herself [refinery29.com] in the press like here in People magazine [people.com], the comments sections are particularly informative about the fact that not everything has been addressed. Any group associated with this person is enabling a scam artist.
Re:Screw Tess Holiday, she's a scammer (Score:5, Insightful)
Any group associated with this person is enabling a scam artist.
Criticizing her in public forum is almost impossible. She is a) feminist b) plus sized person c) public advocate. No matter what she does to you, just preemptively apologize and hopefully SJW lynch mob won't completely ruin your life.
Dangerouse Road for FaceSpace (Score:2)
Basically they have just admitted their policy is meaningless. They will bend and twist the language as needed when political pressure is applied.
They are essentially giving up the curating and running of their own site, its mob rules now.
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Slippery slope (Score:2)
Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake (Score:5, Insightful)
> For some reason there's a huge number of people who absolutely hate on people who are fat.
No, there's a huge number of people who hate on people who are fat that say it's perfectly healthy to be fat.
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No, there's a huge number of people who hate on people who are fat that say it's perfectly healthy to be fat.
Self-righteous fitness nuts who think they can lecture people on how to eat and diet.
Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake (Score:4, Informative)
No, there's a huge number of people who hate on people who are fat that say it's perfectly healthy to be fat.
Self-righteous fitness nuts who think they can lecture people on how to eat and diet.
Self-loathing fat person who lacks self control...
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Self-loathing fat person who lacks self control.
I'm a fat person who accepted being big and has control to limit my diet to 150 grams of carbs/1,500 calories per day. Will you change your prejudice or call me a liar?
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But don't sit here and tell me you eat 1500 calories per day and you're still overweight.
When I did weight training and ate a 3,000-calorie per day diet, my weight went up to 400 pounds. I loved the muscle mass but finding 4XL shirts was a bitch. Now I'm going in the opposite direction (borderline 2XL/XL), I'm going in the opposite direction.
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I'll call you a liar. Unless you're under 5' tall, 1500 calories a day will cause you to lose weight. Source: Me. Also a fatass who finds when I cut my intake to 1500 calories and sticks with it - regardless of carbs - I lose weight. It's like magic, you give your body less fuel and it burns its reserves to make up the difference needed to operate. Or are you saying you're somehow still fat despite cutting intake to a confirmed 1500 calories that you have maintained for a considerable time? If so, p
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The New York Times had an article on the study of the 2009 Biggest Loser contestants who regain their original weight. Their metabolism slowed down from dieting (expected) but never recovered seven years later(unexpected). If they ate a normal diet for their height and weight, they still ate an extra 400 to 800 calories because their metabolism slowed down. It's almost as if their body wanted to regain the weight back.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html [nytimes.com]
Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake (Score:5, Insightful)
Based on your height, weight and age that you stated elsewhere, you resting mass intake is 2800 calories per day. Even if your body freaked out and dropped that by 800 calories you're still looking at 2000 calories per day for maintenance. Which is last time I checked, still greater than 1500.
Then there's the question of adding exercise to the equation. Moving around takes energy, there's no way around that.
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Calories in - calories spent = weight gained/lost
This is clearly true, and almost completely irrelevant. As should be clear from the post by friesofdoom, some people simply want to eat more. They need to eat more before they feel similarly full to another person who may have eaten less. This means that those people, in order to remain thin, must fight a constant never-ending battle against themselves, that no human being can ever be expected to win. Of course if you eat more, you get fat, and if you eat less, you get thin. But imagine you were in a situat
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And biologists, medical researchers, and practitioners.
I was born fat. Doctor told my mother that she would have twin girls (five pounds each), and got a ten-pound bowling ball of a boy. School officials ordered repeated rounds of blood tests in the 4th, 5th and 6th grades to figure out why I was so big. A principle tried to fat shame my parents by calling them in for a conference but was shocked to discover that they were skinnier than him.
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Spoken like a true fatty. I don't exercise, but I limit the amount I eat to less than elephantine portions every meal.
You're making some YUGE assumptions there. My diet is 150 grams of carbs and 1,500 calories per day. I also walk 20 minutes per day and work out at the gym every weekend. Despite being 350 pounds, I'm doing a lot more than you are.
I haven't known a single fatty fat that didn't eat a shit ton of fatty/sugary foods.
I had skinny people accused me of trying to shame them because I eat less than they do at a restaurant. I only eat half a plate for that meal and then take the other half for a different meal.
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It's an addiction to sugar just like smoking is addiction to nicotine and alcoholism is addiction to alcohol and just like them it can be beaten. Pretending it's ok to be addicted to something is the same denial you get from smokers and drinkers. The difference is that there's no healthy at every black lung or cirrhosis acceptance movement.
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There was also policy not to show too much skimpy attire in advertisements, meant to block your typical Budweiser beach bikini ads (drink our beer and these girls might talk to you!). Facebook should have just stuck with that reasoning from the start, or maybe say "our robot filters were confused by the skin to bathing suit ratio" here.
Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake (Score:5, Insightful)
Facebook, for once, did the right thing the first time; she shouldn't be allowed in an ad just like anorexic models shouldn't be either. Reversing their decision was the mistake.
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Exactly. Plus I find it really funny her photo is totally airbrushed.
So not being ok is reason to ban? (Score:2)
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Facebook, for once, did the right thing the first time; she shouldn't be allowed in an ad just like anorexic models shouldn't be either. Reversing their decision was the mistake.
Hold on there, Smokey. Facebook really shouldn't be in the business of curating advertisements. Do they want that kind of liability? Once they say they are, they become liable.
Fat people buy clothing and fat people should be buying clothing that's modeled by fat people. That's just obvious - you can't get an idea about what some
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... I no longer give a shit about what other people think.
Chaser:
... few people are willing to risk their life to fat shame me in person.
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I replied to you upthread but have to post again seeing this. Again, please report to the James Randi foundation for testing and to claim your prize for breaking the laws of thermodynamics. Unless you're awake for 15-20 minutes a day and spend the rest of your time comatose, your basic metabolic burn rate will exceed 2500 calories per day sitting in a recliner and not moving. Either you're lying or you can't measure calories.
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or you have an actual medical condition
You can't rule this out. My weight was fine until I went on a certain medication (Actos) that is known to cause weight gain in many people. I steadily gained a pound a month and couldn't stop it even with 60 minutes of good exercise 6 days a week and a diet that should have worked. After two years on Actos I looked like a small whale. I would NOT put my picture on Facebook, that's for sure.
But I quit the Actos and weight is starting to drop.
Overweight is not pretty and it's not healthy. Now, it would be hyp
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In other words, you're either lying (to us or yourself about how much you actually eat) or you have an actual medical condition to maintain a weight of 350 pounds on an actual dietary intake of 1500 calories per day.
Unless I'm lifting weights to gain more muscle mass (400 pounds), I've always been 350 pounds as an adult. I've been on the 1,500 calorie diet for two months now. I've been getting comments from coworkers about how muscular (probably less rounded) I've become.
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Everyone has the ability to eat less. It literally requires no effort.
And it could fuck up your life even worse.
There are people who, if they eat less, will develop a whole series of diseases which, when turning chronic, would send them to the grave ASAP.
On the other hand, those people while overweight, would not be sick and their state of being would not be unhealthy. Still, they shouldn't say "it's generally okay to be like me".
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"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Note the bolded part. It's important. Note that you can "pursue happiness" while overweight. or underweight. or normal weight. Whether you catch it is another question entirely....
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You know, when you say "people who hate on people that are fat" you might be onto something there.
Some psychologists say that there's some atavistic sense kicking in when we see people who are too thin or too fat. regarding "too fat", back when we were yet to invent writing, being fat was a sign of using up someone else's food resources (tribe's, community's, etc). Being fat meant there's too much food available to you while too little was available to all others.
Likewise, "too thin" usually meant "sick" an
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It's an advert for body positivism, the idea that health is more important than a certain body shape or weight. I'm not sure I with it completely, but the image is suitable.
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It's an advert for body positivism, the idea that health is more important than a certain body shape or weight.
It's not a boolean, it's a sliding scale. Health is more important when you're 5kg overweight. Weight is more important when you are (like the woman in the photo) close on to 70kg overweight.
We don't allow advertisments to tell people that smoking is healthy. Why should we allow advertisments that tell people morbid obesity is healthy?
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That's where I tend to agree with you. At some point extreme weight does start to become a health issue. But below that threshold, I tend to agree that it's better to be healthy than look like a photoshopped model (who is probably quite unhealthy).
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It is more a political or social message. Are those allowed?
Not all ads are about cars and hamburgers.
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An advertisement is supposed to be appealing to people.
No. An advertisement is supposed to make an impression on the observer. The deeper the impression, the more successful the advertisement. If the advertisement gets people to talk about it, as in your case, it's very successful.
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There's a limit. If you need flour to find the wet spot, it's... OMG, don't try to imagine this!
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