Anonymous Posts Pornography To Hijacked ISIS Twitter Accounts (softpedia.com) 189
An anonymous Slashdot reader writes:
Softpedia is reporting that a member of the Anonymous collective "has been hijacking accounts for the most active ISIS supporters, the ones involved in online recruitment, and has been plastering their profiles with naked women and peaceful messages."
Anonymous is also using the hijacked accounts to monitor "protected" tweets from ISIS, and they're reporting hundreds of thousands of other ISIS profiles to Twitter.
But Anonymous is also defacing 161 of the hijacked accounts, saying they're "Adding our own images and basically showing them 'We are in control'... we are creating confusion and distrust..." There are a few things that the Islamic State fear. One is women and the second is Porn."
And probably twitter will ban it much faster (Score:3, Insightful)
And probably twitter will ban it much faster if it is porn than if it were "just" ISIS propaganda.
Prude america, wake up!
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pretty sure twitter doesn't care about porn. Ever looked at twitter? Its 90% porn.
Re: And probably twitter will ban it much faster (Score:2, Interesting)
Twitter shouldn't be a censor for free speech. Youtube now keeps taking down a womans video "how to spot a feminist", which basically disses the ridiculous extremist feminist men haters. Sure you might not agree with her, but they swamp the account with trolls and get the account closed.
She gets exactly the same response as these people expressing pro-ISIS views (well at least we assume they are pro-ISIS views, the accounts are all spam or closed currently, we have to take some anonymous persons claim as if
Re: And probably twitter will ban it much faster (Score:1)
Kicking someone off your property and cleaning up their graffiti is not censorship.
Re:And probably twitter will ban it much faster (Score:4, Insightful)
Hey, don't you watch TV? Chopping titties off is acceptable, kissing them isn't!
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Not even after you've chopped them off?
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The downside of this (Score:5, Interesting)
The downside of this is that it's obvious that the accounts have been hacked. It's better to seed confusion whenever an account has been hacked.
Re:The downside of this (Score:5, Insightful)
As Robert S. McNamara said, "Satire, trolling and propaganda are best when they walk a fine line between being extreme enough to be effective and yet mundane enough to be believable."
A light sprinkling - ideally gay ones or a bit of pegging - here and there.
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Are they claiming he had a machine gun now? Last I heard it was just a semi automatic riffle and a hand gun with lots of ammo.
And you do know ISIS has taken credit for this already right?
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Meanwhile, in Europe, we keep playing soccer. But we do feel with you for the loss of what must've been an awesome titty bar if it gets that much media attention.
you DO prefer your violence after football (Score:3, Insightful)
That's true, is Europe you like to have your random violence at football matches, don't you.
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I tried to americanize it so they'd at least think of the correct sport.
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According to the Lt. Governor of Texas, so has God.
http://www.chron.com/news/arti... [chron.com]
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Well, It wasn't to long ago when we started seeing parody ISIS flags at gay pride parades that replaced the script with dildos and butt plugs. Hell, even CNN thought ISIS infiltrated a group of gays.
In this context, do you think it may be accurate without involving God? I mean they provoked a bunch of killers who specifically have problems with homosexuality and now we see another batch of homosexuals executed for no good reason. Might as well hold a draw Mohammed contest.
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Re: The downside of this (Score:1)
Meanwhile we're still pretending this has nothing to do with the "Religion of Peace"
Re: The downside of this (Score:2)
Really adds to the conversation if you ask me.
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In muslim countries it is actually quite common to see men holding hands, it is how they show friendship. It would not be controversial to ISIS to see their leaders holding hands with other men. Coming out of a bar, or actually being pegged by other men would be however.
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You first, you are the one claiming to be a security expert while not even understanding how networking or security works.
I would even say you don't actually know how to program, as your program is so bad you are afraid of people seeing the code.
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Backup your own bullshit, I have been, you just spout off and link to refuted statements.
Re:The downside of this (Score:4, Insightful)
My thought also. The script kiddies of Anonymous will get one day of poking fun at ISIS out of this stunt, but a much better strategy would be for the NSA to quietly take over ISIS sites and, using all the global intelligence at its disposal, set up false feeds and chatter, funnel ISIS troops into kill zones, and issue faked calls for terrorist activity in the US and Europe which would lure the next Mateen into a police trap.
We need to capture people like Mateen alive, so that their minds can be disassembled using the latest techniques to root out the ISIS command trees in Western countries. Every dead terrorist is a good terrorist, but it's also one we can't get information from.
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Also, this just helps ISIS recruit. Look, it's a clash of civilisations, a war against the corrupt, decadent west, the heathens who mock Muslims and draw Mohammed!
Just report then to Twitter, get them shut down (oh noes, censorships!) and make them harder for people to find. That's the most you can do without making things worse.
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It does look a lot like a clash of civilisations. Remember that even the 'respectable' Islamic-government countries tend to have awful human rights records, and several of them will execute heretics and apostates.
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"Also, this just helps ISIS recruit."
In what way would a secret hexing of jihadist sites 'help ISIS recruit?' And yes, it's a clash of civilizations and we need to understand that the US and Europe are active battlefronts in this war.
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AmiMoJo thinks ISIS are just misunderstood, their cultural vandalism is a form of performance art, and the 9-11 attacks were valid retribution for deposing Saddam Hussein.
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Or perhaps AmiMoJo just understands what ISIS are all about better than you?
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Causality is a white, male, middle-class concept.
Re: The downside of this (Score:1)
Causality is part of my white-privilege, leave it alone ;-)
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I doubt IS coordinate their military operations via Twitter. It's a propaganda tool, but too easily-monitored and hard to access under battlefield conditions when troops have no assurance of working internet access.
Re:The downside of this (Score:4, Insightful)
We need to capture people like Mateen alive, so that their minds can be disassembled using the latest techniques to root out the ISIS command trees in Western countries. Every dead terrorist is a good terrorist, but it's also one we can't get information from.
How much of a "command structure" do you need for a lone gunman? If he contacted IS - which is as of yet unclear, or if he just pledged to join their fight - there's no guarantee that he knew anyone or had anyone local who had turned him into a radical. He was angry and wanted to shoot up a gay club, since this is the US he already had the guns so is there any indication IS was more involved than *thumbsup*? This was not Paris or Brussels with many attackers and IEDs, there's no indication this was really organized or trained in any way.
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Can we finally put this 'lone wolf' crap to rest now? Well-planned international operations in multiple cities require an organizational network. This guy didn;t just look at a website and decide, Death To America.
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Even if it was a lone wolf operation, it makes no difference at all. Islam is antagonistic toward Western style freedom (girls education, women's rights, and especially gays and Jewish people) and followers of Islam systematically act on this (we call it islamic extremism, they call it the proper way of interpreting the Koran and living a worthy life), and I couldn't care less about which fucking organizational badge or process they operate under, ISIS, mujahedeen, Al Quaeda, intifada, terrorist, lone wolf,
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The assumption in all this is that twitter is ISIS' command and control center. It's not. Any direction provided by twitter most likely requires confirmation and attendance in a training facility before deployment.
To discount an enemies intelligence is a fatal position to take.
Anonymous did the the best they could do. Embarrass them and make them look incompetent. Stone age treatment for stone age ideas.
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The script kiddies of Anonymous will get one day of poking fun at ISIS out of this stunt, but a much better strategy would be for the NSA to quietly take over ISIS sites
So let each of them do their part. One does not exclude the other, you know?
We need to capture people like Mateen alive, so that their minds can be disassembled using the latest techniques to root out the ISIS command trees in Western countries. Every dead terrorist is a good terrorist, but it's also one we can't get information from.
You think of Daesh like a club, but it's more like a cult. They don't work the same way, and any people are easily replaced. See the Taliban - how many times has their chief been killed, only to be replaced by someone else?
Honeypot (Score:2)
Yeah, I don't know how good it will do in the field, but it would be great to setup a honeypot of some sort. I kinda wonder why they don't do that already, like "to catch a predator" except for f***'ed up would-be terrorists (or perhaps they do and don't mention it much)
Congrats (Score:2)
Congrats: you're as monstrous as them.
Also as dumb as a bag of hammers by advocating behavior that justifies their cause, aka running Bin Laden's playbook.
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I'm talking about drugs and sensory deprivation, not torture. Torture is only good for intimidating people, which is why the jihadists use so much of it. When we want to intimidate people, we use drones.
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People like Mateen aren't terrorists. Mateen was mentally disturbed, hated gays, and had a god complex. Read some of the interviews about him.
So basically he claimed he was a part of every group, even ones
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"Mateen was mentally disturbed, hated gays, and had a god complex."
Just like every other terrorist who has fallen under the spell of Wahhabism.
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Haha Putin props up anything that may destabilize the less barbaric part of Europe, from financing extreme right wing parties to maintaining East European countries on the short leash via energy exports, shooting Syrian rebels instead of ISIS and when they have some free time, invade and annex some parts of real European (rather than Eurasian) countries, shoot down passenger planes and then act surpised when Nato plants some more defenses on its own territory. The only nice thing so far is the freeing of Pa
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Actually, Hillary is the one that supported OIF and US involvement in ousting Assad and Gaddifi, but since you're either a paid shill or an idiot (probably both), you'll deny it.
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So there! (Score:2)
Take *that*, Omar Mateen! Yeah, you sure showed him, didn't you?
Yeah yeah, bunch of weeny punks (Score:1)
Whatever became of their fight against the Mexican cartels? Huh? Bunch of cowards, spraying graffiti and running. Easy to go after the meaningless soft popular shit. Let's see them block the weapons sales and deliveries, then we can call them heroes. Obviously they are not. More likely they are agents of distraction.
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Bunch of cowards, spraying graffiti and running
Well, what do you expect from somebody hiding behind anonymity?
Don't think so (Score:3)
Well they've certainly conquered *that* phobia, because they seem to be able to get close enough to commit rape on an industrial scale.
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Exactly what I was thinking... this is a group that sells sex slaves for a profit....
I agree with others, that they should have deliberately planted false information. I know some groups have posted fake copies of Dabiq for that purpose (Dabiq = their professional-looking monthly magazine, named after the Syrian town (which they control) where they think that Armageddon will soon begin)
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Anonymous probably doesn't have very many members able to write the language like a native.
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It's published in Arabic, English, German and French. They use it for recruiting.
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Easily solved: Switch to gay porn.
arrogant twerps (Score:1)
Some criticized their move since US intelligence agencies said they were using the Twitter accounts to monitor ISIS movements.
"We have also been told we are interfering with federal investigations by talking these accounts," said WauchulaGhost, being well aware of the issue.
"Maybe, maybe not. I see it this way, Daesh are going to create new accounts whether we take them or they are suspended. We are simply helping by exposing locations etc."
"Once Daesh create a new account, now we know where they are. No need for months of monitoring and wasting taxpayer’s money."
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Pork (Score:2)
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That could put a bit of a strain on the relationship to Israel...
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Yeah, let's keep out all those evil vegetarians/vegans.
Attention seekers.. (Score:1)
Actually (Score:2)
Need to see the pictures (Score:2)
How can we tell if the pictures are really offensive if we can't see them? We need to see non-blurred images for purely scientific reasons. Yeah just for scientific reasons. That's it, that's the ticket.
Why porn (Score:1)
72 of them (Score:1)
Kind of ironic they're being attacked by 72 virgins.
yeh, but... (Score:2)
"There are a few things that the Islamic State fear. One is women and the second is Porn."
Sounds like conservative Utah.....
Naaah. (Score:2)
Naked women are okay for the Muslim, "sluts will get what's coming to them".
Anonymous should be posting pictures of the most delicious bacon dishes.
Porn doesn't bother them (Score:2)
Regardless of what they say, the fact that they take women and use them as sex slaves demonstrates that a naked woman doesn't really offend them. They might not admit that porn turns them on, but it will.
If you're trying to piss ISIS off, post stuff supporting -other- religions. Pictures of Jesus, the cross, the Star of David, the Wheel of Dharma. Post links to positive stories about other religions. Post scripture from any holy book other than the Qur'an. Hell, post Chick Tracts.
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While tragic, it is hardly "news for nerds".
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Neither was that - if you want to discuss the shootings you can go to 4chan instead.
Re: Slashdot won't acknowledge gay murder (Score:2, Insightful)
It's your fault for not participating in the firehose. Slashdot does not report the news. Users submit articles and vote to bring them to discussion.
Re: Slashdot won't acknowledge gay murder (Score:1)
Rubbish. Slashdot frequently discusses surveillance, civil liberties, and the crackdowns on freedom due to terror. A massive terror attack will undoubtedly cause the government to consider further increases in surveillance as well as cracking down on second amendment rights. And if the government can crack down on the second amendment, they can just as easily do so to the first, fourth, and fifth amendments. This is absolutely relevant to nerds.
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Nerds can use the address bar in their web browser to go to other sites to read about how Obama has, yet again, failed to stop a terrorist attack on US soil. But Slashdot is focused on news for nerds - specifically stuff I won't find on other sites.
And, yes, the Orlando Islamic terrorist attack is a perfect example of a story that's newsworthy to the general public but not newsworthy on a website targeted to a specific kind of news.
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It's an aggregator of stuff that's split among a ton of other sites. That's the point - to cherry-pick the interesting stuff and leave the rest of it out there.
I don't need Slashdot's help to find way too much coverage about the Orlando terrorist attack. Just news.google.com [google.com] is enough to find way more coverage of it than I possibly could care about.
E3 and WWDC are both next week. I'm sure Slashdot can find plenty of stories about stuff that's happening then without having to cover a story that's already ove
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It's currently loaded in the firehose [slashdot.org]. This is a news aggregation site, it takes time. If you want to know what is happening right now you want sources such as twitter though I wouldn't count on the reliability.
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Really? That was the largest shooting in US history? And here I was already wondering why they even dedicate air time for it over here. It even bumped a documentary about Hitler off the air, something that's usually unheard of from our variant of the History Channel. Normally, something like this would at best oust the Ancient Aliens mockumentaries...
Re: Slashdot won't acknowledge gay murder (Score:1)
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It's better discussed on other sites.
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Actually you'd be surprised just how many IT professionals are either gay or bi. Sometimes it seems to be good at math, you have to like dick...
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What does one have to do with the other?
Support Your Local Editors! (Score:2)
1 maybe somebody it waiting for actual INFORMATION before doing an article??
2 how many articles are in the FireHose about this??
3 crafting a properly stylish article takes time please stand by
4 how many GEEKS were killed??
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That would be newsworthy in and of itself.
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50+ people lost their lives in a shooting and Slashdot still hasn't posted about it/ Do you hate gay people Editor David? Is that why you refuse to cover this story?
Relax. The news-for-nerds aspects of this story will get plenty of play here in the coming days.
Re: How about you support HR 4269, ban massacre to (Score:3)
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He said "join the civilised world".
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There would have been no difference. The assault weapon ban did not ban the firearm, it banned the firearm from looking a certain way. It was the absolute dumbest ban in the world as you could literally take the flash suppressor off the ar-15, put a wooden or composite stock on it, and it no longer would be banned.
What would have stopped this is if the type of people (gays are typically leftist) actually carrying a firearm of their own. Of course this is a "gun free zone" which means even that is something
Re: How about you support HR 4269, ban massacre to (Score:2)
The fact it is a popular venue for gay people does not make it even a tiny bit more adequate for random gun owners to take action - we're talking about a dark place, with loud music and probably a lot of drunken patrons. Some survivors report they thought at first the sound was from music rather than gunfire. It's not difficult to imagine even more casualties if drunk people stop dancing and start shooting each other.
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It was the type of venue that mattered. It's a gun free zone. Gays do typically lean left politically and the left is generally anti gun. It doesn't take complex equations to figure 2+2 in this case.
But as I mentioned, it is a gun free zone by law (without any regard to the owner's desire) because it serves alcohol. I do agree that consumption of alcohol and firearms to not mix well. But designated drivers and police - on or off duty likely could have made a difference. The thing is, the amount of time invo
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Good guy with pistol
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Bad guy with an AR-15 assault rifle and the element of surprise, in a crowded club.
A bystander with a gun might have been able to take him out, but not before he managed to get a few kills in. Maybe the death toll would have been ten or twenty, rather than fifty, but it wouldn't avert the shooting. Just reduce the severity. I'd expect the lives saved in the occasional shooting spree to be more than offset by the lives lost in accidents, misunderstandings and disproportionate responses.
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but it wouldn't avert the shooting. Just reduce the severity.
If you re optimistic, yes. Another possibility is that instead of 1 good guy with a gun being a hero and living another day, you could have 4 guys attempting to be heroes and failing, causing even more panic and more victims. It's a tough one.
When this sort of thing happens in Africa, the governments and UN work on a nation-wide disarmament. A lot of civilians would be unhappy but it would go ahead, with support from multi-national peacekeeping forces.
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This doesn't happen in countries where you can't get your hands on a gun without sweating blood.
Having draconian gun laws stops lone gunman massacres cold. It does not stop terrorist massacres because they generally have access to illegal weaponry but this kind of thing would be stopped. Just looking at the frequency at which this happens in the states compared with say India should show you that US gun laws are lethal and gun control is non existent. Anyone who really wants a gun can get one.
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My prejudices? Yup. I sure do hate gun free zones.
As for the cop, it is undeniable that good guys with a gun stopped the bad guy with a gun. Just because one person was unsuccessful for whatever reason doesn't remove that fact.
As for coming out of the woodwork, I am specifically responding to someone who thinks making guns look less scary (assault weapons ban) would have somehow prevented this. Now you are completely ignoring the facts which the bad guy was only stopped by good guys with a gun. We don't
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You are a complete moron. The assault weapons ban only banned what the weapons look like and little more. It banned the sale of new magazines that could hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition but all the existing high capacity mags were grandfathered in.
The exact same gun claimed to be an assault weapon in this case ( AR15) could have the stock changed and flash suppressor removed and not be considered an assault weapon even though the functioning mechanics would be identical.
As for places with no guns, you
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You are a complete moron.
I'm not the poster you are replying to. But actually no. You are mis-reading his post.
His point was that the gun legislation that passed was only toothless and pointless because of the gun lobby.
The assault weapons ban only banned what the weapons look like and little more
Because of the gun lobby.
but all the existing high capacity mags were grandfathered in.
Because of the gun lobby.
The exact same gun claimed to be an assault weapon in this case ( AR15) could have the stock changed and flash suppressor removed and not be considered an assault weapon even though the functioning mechanics would be identical.
Because of the gun lobby.
Bottom line, the gun lobby is MORE responsible for that piece of shit legislation than the anti-gun lobby. They lobbied until it was pointless, and then laughed all the way home when it passed.
As for places with no guns, your own home as long as all legal residents agree
Back in the 1880s entire towns were gun free zone
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Define assault weapons for me.
As for towns in territories, it used to be constitutional and legal to literally own and whip/beat another human being. Not all laws are just. Not all laws are constitutional.
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Define assault weapons for me
I think we both know that is pointless.
The solution to american gun violence isn't going to come from a ban on X, for some definition of X.
As for towns in territories, it used to be constitutional and legal to literally own and whip/beat another human being. Not all laws are just. Not all laws are constitutional.
And?
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I see..
You cannot define assault weapon without falling into the exact same problem of it only describing how scary the weapon looks. But if you tried, it would be obvious to you that you were part of the gun lobby because that is the boogeyman you want to blame your misgivings on.
And the point is. . Just because something happened in the past doesn't mean it was right or should be repeated. Or do you think the lie detection process of dunking someone under water to see if they are a witch should be revived
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You cannot define assault weapon without falling into the exact same problem of it only describing how scary the weapon looks.
Not at all. I'd define it based on sustained rate-of-fire including reload, and general suitability for engaging/killing unarmored human targets at short range.
But what would that actually accomplish? A ban on firearms within those constraints would never pass. (And honestly, it shouldn't pass. At some point the guns themselves aren't the problem.)
Just because something happened in the past doesn't mean it was right or should be repeated.
Obviously. Nobody disputes that.
Sometimes the past got it right.
So merely pointing out that sometimes the past got it wrong doesn't make any particular argument a
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So a revolver is an assault weapon? Check out Bob Munden and Jerry Mikulec. Any gun with a magazine or clip? At what rate do you cross that threshold. For instance, oswald let off 3 aimed shots in under 8 seconds with a bolt action rifle. Aiming took up most that time too. And while not ideal, any weapon capable of killing at long range will be capable at short range. In a crowd like the night club, you don't even need to aim, just point.
You are describing about any gun other than muzzle loaders. That is
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So a revolver is an assault weapon?
Maybe some are. If the average trained amateur can shoot 100 people within a few minutes span with a vanilla revolver, then yes, why wouldn't it be considered an assault weapon?
At what rate do you cross that threshold
I left it open ended. How big of a massacre will you tolerate?
For instance, oswald let off 3 aimed shots in under 8 seconds with a bolt action rifle.
Could he have have sustained that rate for 150-200 rounds though? And killed 50 people in a span of minutes? While moving around a crowded nightclub?
And while not ideal, any weapon capable of killing at long range will be capable at short range.
I stipulated it should be "suitable" not merely "capable". Long barrel high caliber with substantial recoil -- sure its abso