Comcast Expands $10 Low-Income Internet Plan (arstechnica.com) 61
Jon Brodkin, reporting for Ars Technica: Comcast's Internet Essentials program that provides $10-per-month Internet service to low-income families has been expanded to make about 1.3 million additional households eligible. Comcast created Internet Essentials in order to secure approval of its acquisition of NBCUniversal in 2011 and has decided to continue it indefinitely even though the requirement expired in 2014. Comcast says the 10Mbps plan has connected more than 600,000 low-income families since 2011, for a total of 2.4 million adults and children, and provided 47,000 subsidized computers for less than $150 each. Advocates for the poor have complained that the Internet Essentials service is too hard to sign up for, in part because of problems with the application process but also because it's usually only available to families with kids in school. That latter issue is what Comcast addressed today, announcing that "adults without a child eligible for the National School Lunch Program will be eligible to apply for Internet Essentials." Previously, pilot programs gave access to some low-income seniors and low-income community college students, but this is the first time that Internet Essentials will be available to adults without children nationwide.
That's impossible (Score:1, Flamebait)
Internet included in rent (mounting a cost of $2 per unit diffused through the renters) and, especially, low-cost Internet are impossible. I know this because everyone rails on my Citizen's Dividend plan for being so horrible as to put the jobless, homeless, unemployed into small apartments with food and clean water but, horrifically, NO MONEY FOR INTERNET, dooming them to a life without cat pictures which is infinitely worse than eating out of people's garbage.
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Oh look how generous they are (Score:3)
We must agree to the TWC Comcast merger to support this generous company! They are really so good to people!
Re:Oh look how generous they are (Score:5, Insightful)
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The people complaining about free stuff never seem to complain about the free $2 trillion Iraq war we got that led to the creation of ISIS. We'd have a lot more money for stuff that actually helps people if we weren't focused on turning the middle east into even more of a shithole.
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TWC and Comcast merger? That ended a while ago. Don't you mean TWC and Charter Communications?
So anyone with a kid ... (Score:1)
"adults without a child eligible for the National School Lunch Program will be eligible to apply for Internet Essentials."
In my part of the country, EVERY child is eligible for NSLP. Every child that wants a free lunch can get one, even during the summer when there is no school in session. It would be discriminatory or hurt the truly needy kid's self-esteem if anyone verified their status, so any "need" requirement was removed. School kitchens are now a year-round operation.
Next year I hear they're going to provide clothing for free, and 24 months from now they're converting the school gyms into very large dorms to provide f
Re:So anyone with a kid ... (Score:4, Insightful)
In fact, if the state had them in school 24/7/365.25, they could be educated faster and become productive taxpayers sooner. No summer break to forget stuff. Classes from 7AM to 9PM. That should cut the time from 13 years for a high-school diploma down to about 6. Put them to work at about 11 years old.
And, of course, because the state educated them without any parental interference, they'd be happy workers doing whatever it is that is most needed.
No, criminals are people that the state has taken control of and therefore responsibility for. I do not want the state taking control of all the children. The parents are responsible.
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In my part of the country, EVERY child is eligible for NSLP.
In my neighborhood, some of the kids appear to be getting three or four lunches a day. Can they do something similar with Comcast's plan and get a 50 MB/s connection?
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Comcast is a GSM yet not regulated under the PUC (Score:5, Interesting)
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So Comcast is a government sanctioned monopoly,
No they aren't.
but some how are not subject to PUC regulation.
Federal pre-emption of a communications service by the federal communications agency.
Someone please explain to me why I can purchase a bundled package for $70 or so with internet, a rented cable box, and HBO,
You're getting a pretty good deal. Without HBO I'm paying $140.
Why is such a bullshit pricing scheme allowed to continue?
Ummm, because nobody forces you to watch HBO or cable, so you can easily take advantage of the bundled deal and save a lot of money. Put the cable box on the shelf, connect the Internet, and you're good to go. The Internet doesn't stop working when the cable box isn't connected.
Someone should be fired (Score:2)
In my state our PUC told me directly that they would be fired if they even brought up the issue of telecom or broadband.
Who are the PUC's bosses? Fire them at the ballot box.
Vote L or start a super PAC (Score:2)
The state legislatures are the ones that need to be removed/fired.
Bingo.
Democrats and Republicans are both equally culpable in the broadband shitshow.
Democrats and Republicans are not the only U.S. political parties. Case in point: Recent polls show Libertarian POTUS nominee Gary Johnson tied for second [twitter.com] among millennials and independents.
And even if they were, there's still a way to tie a soap box to the ballot box. Form an IEOPAC around this issue with a policy of always supporting the opponent of each district's incumbent legislator, regardless of party affiliation, if the incumbent acts in the ISP cartel's favor.
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The state legislatures are the ones that need to be removed/fired.
Bingo.
Wrongo. The state legislatures have no ability to override the federal preemption of the laws regulating cable services, just as they cannot truly make pot legal. They can replace state-level criminalization laws with state-level taxation and criminalization of other related pot activities, but they cannot overrule the federal laws -- just as with cable.
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You appear to imply that there exist federal statutes or regulations that explicitly permit these ISP cartels to keep cartelling. Which are they?
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Local regulation of cable is one of the prohibited things, as are exclusive franchises (government granted monopolies.) But your reference to cable companies as "cartels" is not correct. There are laws against that.
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What is not prohibited is allowed.
The reverse is true in any industry that is deemed "regulated". Medicine, law, and broadcasting are three examples of regulated industries.
Local regulation of cable is one of the prohibited things, as are exclusive franchises (government granted monopolies.)
What in federal regulation of cable TV and Internet guarantees access to local rights of way for competing last mile providers?
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What is not prohibited is allowed.
The reverse is true in any industry that is deemed "regulated".
You lie. Regulated "industries" are regulated by prohibitions on what they can do. If there is no prohibition on something IT IS ALLOWED. BY DEFINITION. For a relevant example, cable services are not permitted to emit spurious signals above a certain level not because there is no regulation that permits it, but because there is a regulation that prohibits it. Were there no prohibition, it would be legal.
Do not be confused by the existence of a blanket prohibition that has regulatory exemptions into thinki
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Do not be confused by the existence of a blanket prohibition that has regulatory exemptions
This has fallen into a definition debate. By "regulated" I meant subject to such a blanket prohibition. We're agreeing, just using different words.
What in federal regulation of cable TV and Internet guarantees access to local rights of way for competing last mile providers?
It is the local franchise CONTRACT, which is federally prohibited from being exclusive.
If I wasn't clear, I was asking for a citation in USC or CFR that forbids a city from blocking a provider from, say, tearing up city-owned roads when it reasonably needs to.
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Obama and friends have been trying to make Internet service regulated as a utility for several years now, but of course, the Republicans have stopped that so that they can continue to get their bribes.
Why do the Republicans want "they" (Obama and friends) to continue to get bribes?
Wow... (Score:5, Funny)
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I believe there are still free or very low cost dial-up services around.
My grandparents use Netscape dial-up still...
Bullshit limitations... (Score:2, Flamebait)
My daughter cant get Section 8 housing because she works a part time job. She can barely afford the crap trailer she lives in, but she is somewhat self supporting.
So it's a big fuck you to those that are trying to be self sufficient but cant afford the normal Comcast $80 a month for 15mbps
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My daughter cant get Section 8 housing because she works a part time job. She can barely afford the crap trailer she lives in, but she is somewhat self supporting.
So it's a big fuck you to those that are trying to be self sufficient but cant afford the normal Comcast $80 a month for 15mbps
Assuming she lives in a trailer park where trailers tend to be rather close together, couldn't she go in with 1-2 neighbors, have one of them sign up for internet and set up a wireless router, and then they can all chip in for the bill? Or, you know, you could throw your daughter $50 a month to help. Or really, if she is that bad off, why doesn't she live with you to help offset expenses?
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Read the Fine Print (Score:2)
In order to get on the "Internet Essentials, for adults without children" plan, you promise to give all of your future children to Comcast to work in their call centers.
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Did you say $10/mo for 40 Gbps? (Score:1)
Cause that's what a low income family pays in a First World Nation.
Not $10 a month for a data capped 40 Mbps sub-par service that might as well be in Africa like we have in the US.
What's it really cost? (Score:2)
I'm guessing there's at least $10 for renting the box from them ... and another $5 in various fees.
(yes, I'm being snarky, but I'd also really like to know what people actually have to pay for the service).
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Obamaphone/Blackberries/data? (Score:1)
One question... (Score:2)
One question...
Is the data capped at 64K a month?