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Google and Bing Have No Obligation To Censor Searches For Torrents (betanews.com) 62

Microsoft and Google are under no obligation to weed out 'torrent' results from their respective search engines, the High Court of Paris has ruled. BetaNews adds: French music industry group SNEP went to court on behalf of a trio of artists, requesting that Microsoft and Google automatically filter out links to pirated material. The group had called for a complete block on searches that include the word 'torrent' as well as blocking sites whose name includes the word. The court found that SNEP's request was far too broad, saying: "SNEP's requests are general, and pertain not to a specific site but to all websites accessible through the stated methods, without consideration for identifying or even determining the site's content, on the premise that the term 'Torrent' is necessarily associated with infringing content".The court added that 'torrent' is a common noun, which has a range of different meanings.
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Google and Bing Have No Obligation To Censor Searches For Torrents

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  • .torrent!=pirated (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @05:32PM (#52543763)

    Not everything bittorrent is pirated content. Lots of Linux distributions offer torrent files as an alternative download method (often much faster than the mirrors), for example.

    • Re:.torrent!=pirated (Score:5, Interesting)

      by godrik ( 1287354 ) on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @05:38PM (#52543799)

      Doesn't blizzard distribute its update using bittorrent?

      Sounds like it is : http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/c... [blizzard.com]

      • by Fire_Wraith ( 1460385 ) on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @05:45PM (#52543853)
        Yes.
        Torrents are a protocol relating to efficient and distributed file transfer, that in no way is inherently piratical or illegal. There are legitimate uses for the protocol, even if piracy of music and entertainment is a fairly common use, too. Even if these groups got what they wanted, and people weren't allowed to search for "torrent", guess about how long before a new term would come into common use meaning the exact same thing? Hint: not long.
        • by c ( 8461 ) <beauregardcp@gmail.com> on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @06:10PM (#52544031)

          Even if these groups got what they wanted, and people weren't allowed to search for "torrent", guess about how long before a new term would come into common use meaning the exact same thing?

          I'm fairly sure "magnet" already works as an alternative.

          Well... "magnet -juggalo", just to be safe.

        • I nominate "LawsuitBait" as a replacement..

          This coming from a guy that actively runs a torrent client which is serving up legal content 24/7 to the dismay of my ISP I'm sure.. I consider it my way to support CentOS and Debian to name a few.

        • Torrents are a protocol relating to efficient and distributed file transfer

          Distributed yes. Efficient no. Its the opposite of efficient.

          • And should add is only really effective for popular content. Less popular content (where there is only the original seeder sharing) works out to be no better than an http file transfer.

          • by raymorris ( 2726007 ) on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @08:24PM (#52544643) Journal

            My office employs mostly nerds who are into comic books, StarvWars, video games, etc. When a major new game version comes out, the office mostly shuts down for the day as everyone stays home to play the new release of the game.

            If a dozen of my co-workers are downloading the new Star Wars fan flick the day it comes out, Bittorrent is much more efficient than regular ftp or http downloads. Only one copy need be downloaded from the far-away server to our office. Mostly everybody copies it around the office, downloading from each other over the local LAN. That's WAY more efficient than downloading a dozen copies from a server 1,000 miles away. (In actual practice maybe twice the file size may be downloaded over the internet, which is six times more efficient than downloading a dozen copies over the internet).

            In less extreme cases, it's still more efficient to download mostly from other people in Texas than from the origin server in California.

            On the other hand, there is some overhead. In worst cases, Bittorrent can use more bandwidth than ftp.

            Also there are of course several ways to measure efficiency. Bittorrent is normally time-efficient. It's bandwidth efficient in that rather than requiring someone to buy a high upstream speed connection, it uses the idle upstream bandwidth that people are already paying for anyway. It can often be less bandwidth efficient in that there is overhead, using more total bandwidth.

            So whether or not it's efficient very much depends on a) the specific situation and b) which type of efficiency you're interested in.

        • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

          Cough, cough, the number 1 definition of torrent :a strong and fast-moving stream of water or other liquid. The data transmission protocol (which can be named anything) was named after it for the obvious reason (also used to define heavy rainfall and based upon that, any mass movement of any large number of things). They could have bound the term to bittorrent but that is not the word used generally in listing data availability by that transmission protocol. This is of course exactly why the pigopolists ta

          • Actually, torrent in French means the exact same thing as “torrent” in English as it comes from the Latin word torrens.

    • Yes of course, everyone is downloading hundreds of gigabytes of Linux ISOs every month :)

      I'm curious what this would actually mean in practice. Right now there's a ton of content removed due to automated DMCA complaints, and it seems like those won't be affected.

    • Using the mind set of .torrent=pirated then can conclude HTTP=Pirated as well. since well you need sites to get them also FTP=Pirated, newgroup=Pirated. can go on and on.
    • Try to explain this to for the stupid lawyers. I say that they should be killed with fire wherever they are found.
    • by clubby ( 1144121 )
      DCS World is a very popular flight sim (among the flight sim community, anyway) and it distributes updates via BitTorrent.
  • Strike! (Score:5, Funny)

    by pete6677 ( 681676 ) on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @05:40PM (#52543823)

    French musicians will now strike in the streets, blocking traffic and blaring awful music in protest.

  • by houghi ( 78078 ) on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @05:59PM (#52543951)

    Just search for e.g. "the matrix" filetype:torrent [google.fr]

  • Prepare (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @06:38PM (#52544191)

    ... for the torrent of angry musicians

  • by Anonymous Coward

    So this moderator, manish (@srcref), posts a story from his former employer's site (Beta News) every day. The worst part is that this story is actually a second-hand copy-paste from TorrentFreak. And even worse is that no user has submitted this story, but has been shoved down our throats by this guy. Are you still looking for reasons why Slashdot is going down?

  • High court of Paris? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by manu0601 ( 2221348 ) on Tuesday July 19, 2016 @09:54PM (#52544965)
    What is this "high court of Paris"? There is no court named like that in France. Is it Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris? or Cour d'Appel de Paris? Or even Cour de Cassation, which is french supreme court?
    • by rnash ( 530673 )

      What is this "high court of Paris"? There is no court named like that in France. Is it Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris? or Cour d'Appel de Paris? Or even Cour de Cassation, which is french supreme court?

      See the NextImpact article (French) [nextinpact.com] : it is the "tribunal de grande instance de Paris".

      As it lost, the SNEP has to pay €10,000 to Microsoft and as much to Google.

  • ...who are the musicians? Streisand Effect is coming for them.

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