Google Is Discontinuing Google+ Hangouts On Air On September 12 (venturebeat.com) 75
An anonymous reader writes: Google today quietly announced that Google+ Hangouts On Air will no longer be available on September 12. Four weeks from now, Google users will be asked to use YouTube Live instead. Google first debuted the livestreaming feature for its Hangouts group video chat on Google+ back in September 2011, though it was only available to select performers and celebrities. Google started making Hangouts On Air available to all its users in May 2012, and completed the rollout a month later. But then in May 2013, Google debuted YouTube Live, which also gradually became available to more and more users.
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And one step closer to the end of that piece of shit called Google+
G+: The Social Network for Sociopaths (Score:5, Insightful)
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Making it INVITE ONLY killed it off before anyone could try it out.
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Authoring tools? I'm not on Facebook so I'm confused here. You've got text, pictures, video, text with pictures, text with video, what else do you need? It's not a platform for bloggers. Post or share something without any delusions of being a journalist, then people comment on it, end of story.
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Exclusivity only works as a marketing tool if you are offering something that people can't get elsewhere. So they come banging at your door asking for an invite. Google+ essentially didn't do much that Facebook didn't already do, making it invite only meant that people just got on with using Facebook and ignored it.
And by the time it went open to all comers it was too complicated and too late.
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Most things start as invite only and word of mouth only when they're new. Even Facebook did that in its infancy. This wasn't about exclusivity but about a slower and maintainable rollout. I've seen new products fail when they get inundated with too many users too soon then the word goes out that it's slow and down a lot.
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Gmail was invite-only too for a long time. It didn't fail. The problem is google's standards for the success or failure of their products. If it doesn't dominate the market, they declare that a failure and discontinue it.
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Why do you ACs hate it so much? If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Will Wheaton was actually using it, not just a paid promotion.
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Agreed. Wil Wheaton endorsing G+ was particularly disappointing, he's always struck me as someone who's genuine and down to earth. Just goes to show that anyone can be bought for the right price I suppose.
Wheaton used G+ quite heavily until about six months ago. I think he genuinely liked it.
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where is good old clevernickname.
Re:G+: The Social Network for Sociopaths (Score:5, Interesting)
Facebook = People I care about
Google+ =Things I care about
Facebook is filled with crap from people I care about. Most of it is crap / clickbait / memes and other "crap". It is really hard to filter all the crap from all the people I car about, but I still want to keep up with the People (the limited amount of non-crap items)
Google+ has much better control over my feed. It is much better at filtering crap out. I want to see just "Photography" stuff, I open that Circle. Too Much spam from person A, they get removed from that circle.
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You know, Facebook has lists, which are basically the equivalent of G+ circles - you can post to them and view posts from them. It's like having a whole separate newsfeed but just from those people. Dunno how many people use it but to me it's an invaluable feature.
Wanna know what killed G+ ? (Score:5, Insightful)
The real name policy was a complete turnoff.
Oh, that and the fact that G+ conflated my "mission-critical" GMail, Voice, Wallet (mainly for Express), and other stuff with my personal life, where I could get banned for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.
Yeah, about the same kind of incentive mismatch as Apple Ping (where I had to worry if Apple's closeness with the music/movie industry meant I couldn't discuss torrents/etc).
You have everything to lose (your Google identity) with G+, and little to gain - why should I bother?
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Because it may have been part of its downfall. When they reverted their policy the damage may have already been done.
And "Facebook does the same" is not an excuse. Google+ is a competitor to the already established Facebook, it has to offer something different, otherwise, people won't switch.
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I really did like Google+ the best. My major beef with the service was their real name requirement. Had they gotten rid of that (maybe require real names on the account but let people use "public names" that could be pseudonyms), then I know that I and a lot of other people would have used the service more.
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The last time I checked, they got rid of it by allowing a pseudonym but requiring that the person choose a public name that included their real name. So I could be "Jason Levine (Pseudonym)", "Jason (Pseudonym)", "Pseudonym (Jason Levine)", etc. Not really helpful if you didn't want your real name publicized.
(Yes, I realize that there's something odd about me complaining about a real name policy when I use my real name on Slashdot. I signed up for this account years ago when I didn't care if my real name w
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I like it. I'm not on Facebook but I hear it's better in every way except popularity. And popularity has never proven to correlate with quality. Given all these things dropping off, I'm worried they're going to drop G+ altogether. Which should not affect any of the haters whether it lives or dies, but I'll be stuck without an alternative.
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Google Plus is actually pretty good.
It's real mistake was Google screaming "GOOGLE PLUS" at you constantly and then demanding you use it if you want to continue using virtually every google service.
It royally pissed people off and never recovered.
Shame really.
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Why maintain a product (Score:3)
Re: Why maintain a product (Score:2)
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Google is killing a lot of products (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Google is killing a lot of products (Score:5, Insightful)
I agree. Basically any product made by Google or purchased by Google means it will likely shut down in few years.
So learning to use and/or switching to any of their products is kind of waste of time and effort that way.
I do use some Google products(mostly Mail,Drive,Maps, Chrome and Android), but I do make sure I have all the information also outside their unreliable environments.
Unreliable being the keyword.
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On the maps thing, I used to use paper maps from AAA exclusively 10 years ago when I lived in CA. But when I relocated to the East Coast, I had a sense that roads were nowhere as gridlike as they were either in LA or the Santa Clara Valley, so I bought my car w/ a built in GPS. Most of the places I frequently visit are there in the StarLink navigation history or favorites, which is how I find them. That thing was a godsend in Charlotte, Atlanta and now DC.
I don't have a TV at home either, so on one of
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what else has Google been real successful at?
Errr.. a fucking search engine?
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Android
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Android
And Drive, and Photos, and Google Docs (that is not going anywhere). If you are not in need of Excel's analytics capabilities, Google Docs are a good alternative to MS Office for home and small businesses.
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If it doesn't bother you then why are you bashing it? Is Facebook sending out an army of astroturfers?
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Android. And the search engineof course.
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> Other than a decent browser and ads what else has Google been real successful at?
Gee, maybe 2 Billion Android Devices:
http://www.itechpost.com/artic... [itechpost.com]
Microsoft had a ~20 year head start with WinCE and yet Google still managed to beat them in ~ 6 years! (WinCE first shipped on 16 November 1996, Android first shipped on December 6, 2010)
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Linux on the Desktop didn't "win" compared to Linux Mobile
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1. /sarcasm Who knew pointing out the facts makes one a shill! What are you smoking, because I want some of that!
2. I don't use either Microsoft nor Google operating systems on mobile.
What? (Score:4, Insightful)
Man, this is going to piss off a whole lot of podcasters and streamers I know about.... though the ones most dedicated to that abandoned the platform long ago due to complete abandonment and a whole lot of weird glitches, bugs and problems.
But yeah... another proof that people just can't rely on Google to keep up their platforms or even develop them properly. They just keep releasing crap, abandoning development, and then shutting them down. Really doesn't inspire much confidence on the company.
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Is this different from the Hangouts app on Android (Score:3)
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