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Microsoft Fixes Windows 10 Anniversary Update Freezing Issues (betanews.com) 133

Posted by msmash from the windows-update dept.
An anonymous reader writes: The Anniversary Update may have introduced a whole host of new features but it has also caused a fair number of problems for Windows 10 users. Among the most annoying issues reported since its release in late-July are freezes on systems equipped with SSDs. Microsoft has acknowledged the problem and provided a couple of workarounds that users could try, promising that a permanent fix would eventually be made available. Microsoft now says that it has addressed the freezing issues in the latest Cumulative Update that it just released. "After the launch of the Anniversary Update for Windows 10, Microsoft received a small number of reports of Windows 10 freezing when signing into Windows after installing the Anniversary Update. With the help of users and MVP's who posted on this thread an investigation determined that a small fraction of users who had moved app information to a second logical drive could encounter this issue," explains Microsoft.
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  • SSD Hell (Score:4, Interesting)

    by A10Mechanic ( 1056868 ) on Thursday September 01, 2016 @02:14PM (#52809483)
    Six months ago Windows 10 ate my SSD array. Totally creamed it, with no recovery possible. Glad to see they're making progress on the issue, he said tongue-in-cheek.

    • We non-consensual forced upgraders to windows 10 on SSD drives should be especially heartened by this news

      go Microsoft!

      • I've had no issues with win10 on my ssd. I have, however, had the issue with it rebooting, or thinking it rebooted, when coming out of sleep. Anniversary update flipped that back on. mind you, I'm not doing RAID so I suspect that's the issue, you'd think MS would have tested this a little

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by Anonymous Coward

          They fired all the testers so they could focus on marketing.

        • My big annoyance so far is that Microsoft seems to think that the time I turn my computer on is excellent for doing long processes that don't allow me to use the computer for anything.

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by FlyHelicopters ( 1540845 )

      Six months ago Windows 10 ate my SSD array.

      In my experience, users tend to blame Windows for just about everything, even when Windows isn't remotely to blame...

      While it is possible you're correct, I've learned to assume when someone says "Windows broke my computer" that usually it is "anything BUT Windows broke my computer"

      I'm right more often than I'm not...

      • I'm right more often than I'm not...

        You are truly right, for any system that hasn't had an OS upgraded since 15th June 2015.

        • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

          by FlyHelicopters ( 1540845 )

          You are truly right, for any system that hasn't had an OS upgraded since 15th June 2015.

          I have Windows 10 running on 20 computers that I own, and I've installed it on about 100 computers that I don't own in the past year...

          I have yet to have a problem with it, it is rock solid... as good as, if not better than Windows 7 when it launched, and far easier to use than Windows 8...

          Most of the 20 that I own have been updated to the Anniversary Update, also working perfectly...

          • I agree. I also have had zero problems with Windows 10.

            That doesn't make it any less the most complained about and bug riddled OS that MS has released. I have had nothing but good experiences with it, but I also won't shut my eyes and stick my fingers in my ears and pretend that it is anywhere near as stable as prior OSes.

            • That doesn't make it any less the most complained about and bug riddled OS that MS has released.

              Citation needed...

              And I say that seriously, with no snark... The complaints on Slashdot frankly don't count, the Linux zealots here really aren't unbiased enough to have an objective viewpoint.

              I deal every day with people who wouldn't know a MHz from a GHz, they just want to use their computer and get on with life. Without exception, Windows 10 works fine, I don't see all the problems with it that others do, and this includes running it on everything from brand new machines to 10 year old Core2Duo machine

              • The complaints on Slashdot frankly don't count

                Slashdot? Try the Microsoft support forums, or just turn on the news. I mean some of the things aren't directly a problem with Windows 10 such as the debacle that rendered millions of webcams useless, but frankly given the now rolling nature of the release, boneheadded moves by Microsoft issued in updates can be lumped in with Windows 10 especially since they are unavoidable.

                I deal every day with people who wouldn't know a MHz from a GHz

                So do I, and these are the people who come to me saying they are sick of doing system restores. I have not had problems with my person

                • Slashdot? Try the Microsoft support forums, or just turn on the news.

                  Anything used by hundreds of millions of people is going to get that level of attention...

                  Try going to the Ford or GM forums, you'll see endless complaints from unhappy owners, that doesn't mean that the odds of me getting a good truck are poor.

                  So do I, and these are the people who come to me saying they are sick of doing system restores.

                  I must live a blessed life! :) If you say that happens, fair enough, I have no reason to doubt you... all I can do is say that my experience is different, but perhaps my circle of contacts is different in some way, it isn't large enough to be "the market" as a whol

              • The most important complaint is not how well it works, but all the spyware baked into the OS.

                • The most important complaint is not how well it works, but all the spyware baked into the OS.

                  Anyone complaining about that has simply not been paying attention for 20 years...

                  You more or less have to live a digitally disconnected life to avoid it all now, Windows is not going to be the source of your privacy doom...

                  If you think so, then you're uninformed about the modern world...

                  • Did I forget to mention that the Windows 10 EULA is the most invasive ever published? That it states that Microsoft has complete access and control of your computer for any reason? That they go so far as to explicitly state in that EULA that they use a key-logger? How about the part where they give themselves permission to examine, alter, copy, or delete any and all of your personal files?

                    If you think that the Windows 10 privacy issues are no worse than most other OS's then you seriously need to sit do

                    • Did I forget to mention that the Windows 10 EULA is the most invasive ever published?

                      No, but you failed to understand my point or how little privacy you really have...

                      If you think that the Windows 10 privacy issues are no worse than most other OS's then you seriously need to sit down and read the damn EULA you have apparently agreed to hundreds of times already.

                      Try reading the terms and conditions for your bank account and credit card some time, you might be shocked...

                      Unless you pay for everything with cash, don't carry a cell phone, don't use any online e-mail services, don't use any social media, then your privacy has been gone for some time. Windows didn't cause it.

                    • I have read them, and they don't compare to the Windows 10 EULA.

                    • Then you didn't read them closely enough...

                      You're delusional if you think you had privacy before Windows 10 and only lost it after...

                    • You're delusional if you think that Windows 10 isn't pushing it much farther than before.

      • A big source of trouble that is most overlooked is simply clean a.c. power. SO MANY PROBLEMS without ready explanation can be solved by providing clean u.p.s. power to the computer and yet too many home and small business users carelessly don't bother.

        If it's a laptop or battery-operated handheld device that is not an issue, but for traditional desktop machines it certainly is.

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by donaldm ( 919619 )

          A big source of trouble that is most overlooked is simply clean a.c. power. SO MANY PROBLEMS without ready explanation can be solved by providing clean u.p.s. power to the computer and yet too many home and small business users carelessly don't bother.

          If it's a laptop or battery-operated handheld device that is not an issue, but for traditional desktop machines it certainly is.

          Having a UPS is important if you have machines that are deemed mission critical, however, you also have to ask the question "How long do you want the UPS to stay up after the main grid power goes out?" The answer can result in hundreds to hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent on a UPS infrastructure.

          As for home use a UPS is not really necessary if you live in town or city where the normal power supply is clean and reliable (read most first world countries). Sure there is always the possibility of a

          • The most frequent occurrence is a brown out or voltage spike that glitches computerized electronics of all kinds: computers, Roku boxes, IoT devices powered by the a.c. mains. It's not about run time when the power goes clean out, it's about smoothing out the bumps on the a.c. mains that occur often enough in first world countries that they ARE a concern. Particularly for those with nearby industry that might put a big but brief hit on your feeder when they fire up a big motor or illuminated sign.

            Don't be a

        • Yup. American/Canadian cities with their low voltages have horrible issues, especially in older neighborhoods, where the grid was not designed for the increased modern load. I have found that a UPS will make most PC issues go away.

      • What we're looking at here is a scenario that runs: GP had a working computer with a working SSD array. Microsoft forced an update. GP's SSD array stopped working.

        In other words, a Microsoft action that GP couldn't stop trashed his SSD array. There's no way Microsoft can dodge the blame for that. It may be that his SSD array was put together faulty, and it was just luck that it worked in the first place, and in that sense it might not be Windows' fault specifically, but the fault of the Windows 10 u

        • What we're looking at here is a scenario that runs: GP had a working computer with a working SSD array. Microsoft forced an update. GP's SSD array stopped working.

          Correlation is not causation...

          • There was one change, and the SSDs stopped working. I suppose that if I showed up at your place and let the air out of your tires, you'd think "Damn, there's a correlation between what david_thornley did and my tires going flat. I wonder what happened."

  • Race condition between upgrade dialogs. (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    It looks like you're trying to do some work, would you like some help bricking your computer?

  • ya know, microsoft... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 01, 2016 @02:18PM (#52809545)

    if updates weren't forced down our throats, maybe only a small percentage of users would be affected by a bad update before you got your shit together and fixed it....

    WE ARE NOT YOUR BETA TESTERS.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by TimSSG ( 1068536 )
      Actually, I am afraid we are now MS beta testers. Does the minimal wage laws apply for beta testers? Tim S.

      if updates weren't forced down our throats, maybe only a small percentage of users would be affected by a bad update before you got your shit together and fixed it....

      WE ARE NOT YOUR BETA TESTERS.

      • no you pay for beta software now days.

      • MS gets so much grief about the forced updates, but what is the better solution for their customers who NEVER update?

        Maybe forced updates a month after live date instead of as soon as they hit the computer?

        • I spent the extra hundred bucks for 10 Pro, so I can at least delay updates.

          One solution for the forced-update problem is for Microsoft to do good QC on updates, which they don't. I know it's a really big deal, but MS could certainly do better.

    • WE ARE NOT YOUR BETA TESTERS.

      Apparently, you are. Whining about it and making bold proclamations to the contrary won't change it, or how Microsoft treats you. If you don't like being their beta tester, then maybe you shouldn't use Microsoft products.

      • Actually, Microsoft gets Windows 10's newer updates out to tens of thousands of beta testers months in advance. They work though the entire development process, with some only receiving updates a month before they go into production, others receiving new features much earlier. Shit happens when you take something that works for 80,000 users and put it on 80,000,000 users's hardware and unique software configurations.

        • Re: (Score:3)

          by rastos1 ( 601318 )

          Shit happens when you take something that works for 80,000 users and put it on 80,000,000 users's hardware and unique software configurations.

          You know that. I know that. Everybody here knows that. Microsoft however, does not. Or, more likely, they do not care. All they have to do is to let the user choose what updates to install and when.

          • They tried that, for the whole history of Windows, and you know what they found out of it? Most users never update. They just ignore the update prompts and leave their computers completely unpatched from the day they buy them.

            If you are a technical person (which most of us are) you can turn off the auto update without much issue, you already know how to do it. Why all this hate, I don't get, just set it up the way you want if you don't want immediate updates.

        • On top of it,the 80k testers are strongly recommended to test in a VM environment, so they aren't even testing on their actual devices. So no wonder things like "hey we changed how video works cause it works fine in VMs" backfires.

    • No, but the sad reality is that you're Microsoft's bitch.

      Bend over.

      And take the broken "updates" whether you like it or not.

      When are you going to stop allowing MS to control your life?

    • WE ARE NOT YOUR BETA TESTERS.

      Well then I'm sure you've not run the Anniversary update yet which hasn't been pushed out to anyone who has "defer updates" ticked in their settings.

      You know, that specific setting that lets Windows update know you only want software that has it's shit together? You have ticked that right? Well then what are you complaining about, you're going to receive the Anniversary update without this bug.

  • Windows 10 (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Windows 10 is the worst OS I've ever used, and I've use Windows ME! Also some of the most unstable Linux distros (Fedora, Debian Sid, Gentoo).

    It's slow, bloated and invades my privacy for no practical gain. The Anniversary Update resulted in a BSOD + reboot loop. One clean install later, and my webcam doesn't work.

    Windows 7 was pretty much perfect. Windows 8 was at least tolerable. Windows 10 is the Worst. OS. Ever.

    • Not to defend the way 10 has been forced down people's throats, or how Microsoft has introduced data mining w/ 10, but I find 10 a lot better than 8. Not so much as 7, though, but I doubt I could run 7 on a Surface.
    • Funny, Win10 runs like a nuclear-powered ninja on my SP1. Maybe your computer just sucks.

  • ... should really fix:

    EITHER OR:
    1) DON'T REBOOT MY FUCKING COMPUTER WHEN I DON'T WANT TOO! Now you don't even get a time mentioned, and you can't delay it (using their own user shown user-interface at-least), you can't set active hours less for more than 12 hours a day either. Microsoft will reboot your computer whenever the fuck they want too. Such as last night.
    2) FIX THEIR FUCKING OS SO THE WHOLE MACHINE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REBOOTED FOR EVERY FUCKING UPGRADE!

    Fuck the anti-human dictatorshit idiots at Micr

  • Right, but does this fix the kindle crashing problem? The one where you plug your kindle over usb into your PC and windows instantly bluescreens....

  • s/cummulative/trichobezoar

    Anyone else?

    I'm sort of thinking about the kind of pachypatch trichobezoar that results when an anxious elephant plucks and nibbles too many of its own nose hairs.

    Of course, under the new model, a discerning elephant can't just selectively incisor the one long, black, thick nose hair that's spiralling out of control. No, now it has become a daring feat of all or nothing, certain to well up elephant tears.

    Here's another option:

    s/cummulative/wallop

    Fear wallop hell.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by wbr1 ( 2538558 )

      s/cummulative/trichobezoar

      Anyone else?

      I'm sort of thinking about the kind of pachypatch trichobezoar that results when an anxious elephant plucks and nibbles too many of its own nose hairs.

      Of course, under the new model, a discerning elephant can't just selectively incisor the one long, black, thick nose hair that's spiralling out of control. No, now it has become a daring feat of all or nothing, certain to well up elephant tears.

      Here's another option:

      s/cummulative/wallop

      Fear wallop hell.

      Question... Acid, shrooms or salvia?

  • I haven't run into this issue either, but ... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Thursday September 01, 2016 @02:45PM (#52809781) Journal

    There are definitely quite a few misc. problems and quirks involved with running Windows 10 -- and surely more with the "Anniversary edition" update.

    One odd thing I've noticed is that I run a Surface Pro 4 (Microsoft's OWN hardware, so should be completely optimized for Win 10!), and it seems to occasionally lose contact with my Microsoft branded bluetooth mouse. It doesn't happen *often*, but I'd say if I leave my system running and attached to its dock, and don't come back to it for a couple days, there's a good probability the mouse won't work. Turning the mouse off/on again does nothing. Only real solution I've found is a Windows restart. I think I lose control of the mouse like this once or maybe twice while in the middle of using the computer too, during the middle of the day. So I can't really blame this entirely on a "sleep mode" problem or what-not.

    • There are also any number of issues with the new taskbar. In particular, the taskbar now has a habit of refusing to go away (even if you click the box to auto-hide it) on top of programs running in borderless-windowed fullscreen mode. Doesn't happen all the time, but seems to trigger and then go away again almost at random for me.

      • I had a problem once with the start screen. I could bring it up and send it away, but Windows wouldn't launch any program no matter what I tried, which was clicking repeatedly on its tile, repeatedly selecting it from the "all apps" list, or typing the executable name in. I had to use the power button on the laptop to shut it down, since it wouldn't let me shut it down normally. Fortunately, that hasn't happened again.

    • I have had this problem before. I also have had a problem with the pen not writing which was also fixed by a windows reboot.

      What I ended up doing was buying a new mouse and pen both of which now work 100% perfectly. Microsoft's hardware lacks a lot in the QC department.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by suss ( 158993 )

      I remember something similar to this with serial mice in Windows 95 and you had to manually edit an .ini file to stop it from losing the connection... I wonder if the bugs are related.

  • Baloney (Score:5, Funny)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Thursday September 01, 2016 @02:59PM (#52809905) Homepage Journal
    I'm typing this on my Windows 10 laptop and it is working fi

  • Adios Windows/Microsoft (Score:3, Insightful)

    by LeftCoastThinker ( 4697521 ) on Thursday September 01, 2016 @03:00PM (#52809913)

    Just more confirmation that Windows 7 will be my last windows version, ever. When Windows 7 stops getting security updates/gets crippled by MS update I will go Ubuntu/SteamOS for my desktop and console for my gaming.

    • You should disable the Windows Update Service from Windows 7, now. And I am well aware of the security problem that this will cause, but lately the microsoft updates are causing more problems than a virus.
      • The new Win7 update method will end up with the same problems as Win10 has.
        You may not be forced to install them, but the new updates come as a single package, you won't be able to pick and choose anymore. If you get one update, you get them all.

        Also, I don't see it as some huge security loss to disable the updates. It took a month to fix this problem, a virus can spread world-wide in less than 10 minutes. If MS updates is your security blanket you already lost.

    • Just more confirmation that Windows 7 will be my last windows version, ever. When Windows 7 stops getting security updates/gets crippled by MS update I will go Ubuntu/SteamOS for my desktop and console for my gaming.

      This is so sad, isn't it? Windows 7 is the most functional and best OS I've seen from MS since the beginning of their OS... OSing. Of course most all good things end with a bang. It's unfortunate I can't use my handgun to shoot software. :(

    • Microsoft announces they fixed a bug and this is your catalyst for confirmation that you don't want to run Windows 10?

      Of all the I'm not upgrading post on Slashdot, this one wins the award for the dumbest.

      • It's not because they fixed the bug, it's because they introduce a show stopping new bug every couple weeks that requires a second patch to correct, none of which you can opt out of without causing some sort of issue.

        Yes, they fixed it, but it took a month.
        You might be able to limp along for a month, but some cannot, especially small businesses. Even if you can, what about the next show-stopper or how about one that bricks the computer, it's not like they haven't bricked any machines before (Surface t

  • It should simply have read "Microsoft Fixes Windows 10". But then I guess they'd have to call it "Windows 7", and Satya Nadella would no longer have a job shafting Microsoft customers.

  • My system rebooting three times in three days for updates. Way to go Microsoft - fucking shit up.
  • From my armchair at the old folks home it seems Microsoft has given up whatever advantage they have with desktop computing. All they needed to (continue) doing was provide a stable platform for their office suite and PC games. The growing pains of NT and ME should have been adequate lessons learned for them. It's as if they have no idea where they are headed or who their customers are. Business and consumers are fed up.

    • It's as if they have no idea where they are headed or who their customers are.

      I understand your point, but I think MS does know where they're headed and who their customers are, but they don't care very much about them, if at all. That's a different kind of problem, much worse than just lack of direction.

      My surmise is that MS knows their direction: getting everyone, eventually, onto a subscription model. Corporate customers are to a greater or lesser extent there already, but now MS has to round up those pesky consumers who haven't been anything like fully milked for revenue. What mo

      • Or they see Open Source offerings such as LibreOffice and the various, mature Linux distros as a threat. Maybe not for gaming and Outlook, which is why I cited those two niches. Their relevance is not a given; we've seen how Android has been adopted to users who just want to use a device to access the web or create some documents.

      • Slim pickings maybe, but if they're not careful they will wish they took the slim pickings instead of getting nothing.

        MS is today where IBM was in the late 1970s and early 1980s. A huge IT player, dominating the field and dictating the direction. When IBM decide to scratch an itch, the IT world trembled. Actually, they were even more than MS is today, they pretty much owned the commercial mainframe market, which was back then pretty much all there was in "serious" computing. Sure, there were a few "home com

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by jez9999 ( 618189 )

          With MS customers, "breaking point" seems to literally be "breaking" point. Like, unless you totally break their computer to the point of being unusable, they will use Microsoft shit. Telemetry? No problem. Ads? No problem. Shitty UI? No problem. Forced updates? No problem. Forced reboots? No problem. Stupid app store? No problem. Random lockups when using SSD? No problem. Massive updates that cause bugs all the time? No problem. Regular accidental-on-purpose resets of your privacy settings? No problem. E

          • Mmmm... not really sure about that, to be honest. I have a few (non-tech) friends who already ask for alternatives because they're fed up with the whole shit. And that's usually the kind of people who only ask me for aid when they can't see their browser window anymore due to 200 "browser bars" and other crap clogging it, i.e. who usually only notice that "something is wrong" when their i7 8000 is running like a Pentium II due to virus load.

            Don't forget that they know that there was a time when it was bette

  • You would think that with all the telemetry data Microsoft is getting from Windows 10 installations they would have figured this out quite quickly.

  • "Microsoft received a small number of reports [...] a small fraction of users [...]"

    F*ck it, these PR-morons never learn. When you have millions of users, no number is small, and no fraction is small, and when you say it is, you make yourself look like an idiot. And if you don't know that, then it's more than just the looks.

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