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General Motors Recalls 4.3 Million Vehicles Over a Software Bug (gizmodo.com) 74

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: If you own a GM vehicle from 2014-2017, listen up: General Motors is recalling nearly 4.3 million vehicles worldwide after discovering a software defect that prevents air bags from deploying during a crash. The software bug may also prevent the seat belts from locking properly. The flaw has already been linked to one death and three injuries. Vehicles affected by the recall include 2014-2016 car models of the Buick LaCross, Chevy SS, and Chevy Spark EVs. It also includes 2014-2017 models of the Buick Encore, GMC Sierra, Chevy Corvette, Chevy Trax, Chevy Caprice, Chevy Silverado. Additionally, the recall affects 2015-2017 models of the Chevy Tahoe, Chevy Silverado HD, Chevy Suburban, GMC Yukon, GMC Yukon XL, GMC Sierra HD, Cadillac Escalade, and Cadillac Escalade ESV. GM will notify owners of affected vehicles and update the software for free, according to the NHTSA. "In the affected vehicles, certain driving conditions may cause the air bag sensing and diagnostic module (SDM) software to activate a diagnostic test," the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in a statement. "During the test, deployment of the frontal air bags and the seat belt pretensioners would not occur in the event of a crash."
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General Motors Recalls 4.3 Million Vehicles Over a Software Bug

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  • Though likely a mere fraction of a lightning strike, probability-wise, there's some factory warranty work you can do at the Chevrolet House if you're slow...
  • What the hell? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09, 2016 @09:00PM (#52859885)

    Why is there any software AT ALL involved in the operation of a seatbelt? For fuck's sake, not everything needs to be computerized.

    • Re:What the hell? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Friday September 09, 2016 @09:06PM (#52859921)

      Why is there any software AT ALL involved in the operation of a seatbelt? For fuck's sake, not everything needs to be computerized.

      There are purely mechanical impact sensors, but MEMS modules are more reliable and require an electronic interface. Also, you don't want to wait till the impact to begin pretensioning. If sensors like cameras and radar can detect an imminent crash, they can begin tensioning the seatbelts, retracting the steering wheel, and even moving the seat back to give the airbags more room to deploy. Despite your Luddite opinion, these technologies have already saved thousands of lives.

      • With all these fancy electronics, where is the breathalyzer? It would save thousands more lives.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          These electronics, for the most part, don't get in the way of normal operation of the vehicle.
          Anyway, many cars are already equipped with brethalizers, where we have spotted they are warranted.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Also the sensor is in the front it will be involved in the crash many millisecond before your mechanical trip feels it.
        This will keep your face further away from the Exploding Ammonium Nitrate.

        • by Hylandr ( 813770 )

          I must learn how to trip these manually, that would be a blast.

          • I must learn how to trip these manually, that would be a blast.

            It is not hard. Just smack your front bumper with a sledgehammer.

            • Usually the airbag sensors will have a speed interlock as well, as the inflation of the airbag in a tiny parking lot fender bender would cause more injury than not inflating the air bag. Definitely more financial injury.

          • The early GM ones were sensitive to hitting them with a ratchet while working behind the bumper!
            Accidentally whack one of them, and Bang! You were out 2 grand...

      • If you have cameras and radar to detect a crash wouldn't it make more sense to just apply the breaks rather than prepare for a crash?
      • Why is there any software AT ALL involved in the operation of a seatbelt? For fuck's sake, not everything needs to be computerized.

        There are purely mechanical impact sensors, but MEMS modules are more reliable and require an electronic interface. Also, you don't want to wait till the impact to begin pretensioning. If sensors like cameras and radar can detect an imminent crash, they can begin tensioning the seatbelts, retracting the steering wheel, and even moving the seat back to give the airbags more room to deploy. Despite your Luddite opinion, these technologies have already saved thousands of lives.

        You can't detect an imminent crash, and please don't try. There is this thing call steering which can prevent crashes even centimeters before impact. In fact coming close objects with only a few centimeters is not uncommon, and would be dangerous if the car started freaking out everytime you did.

      • If I had the points I'd mod you up. Didn't the parent ever see Demolition Man?
    • How exactly do you think a modern car works?

    • Why is there any software AT ALL involved in the operation of a seatbelt?

      With the Internet of Things barreling down the track, you can get this question ready for a whole LOT of things.

  • They should do over-the-air updates like Tesla does. Then there would be no need for a recall.

  • After knowing a number of owners both former and present, I have come to the conclusion that these vehicles are somehow designed to "expire" after a while.

    Could this be the reason one doesn't see many of them manufactured over the last 15 years?I will never forget one Cadillac I found in the shop with a malfunctioning transmission at exactly 100,801 miles with a 100,000 mile warranty. For me, GM is a no!

    • Back in '05 I bought an Infinity G35 and my parents bought a Buick Regal. Still got my G35, but the Buick developed software problems soon as the warranty expired. Stuff like if they locked the car, a couple minutes to a couple hours later the burglar alarm would go off. Or something would turn on and drain the battery. Or dad would be driving down the road and all the idiot lights would light.

      Mom died a few years back, my sister grabbed the car (dad can't drive any more). Haven't heard her say a si
  • by khz6955 ( 4502517 ) on Friday September 09, 2016 @09:11PM (#52859951)
    The old fashioned method was airbags used to be triggered by a magnetic ball embedded in a 'cup' that on the application of severe deceleration, the ball popped out, closed a circuit and triggered the airbag. The same goes for seat-belts. A rotating wheel that trip and engages a cog on the application of a set amount of acceleration.
    • Airbags had to move to software control because sometimes you don't want the airbags going off even though there's an accident. e.g. A child in the front passenger seat - early airbags were designed to cushion and adult head, and were forcing the lower mass of a child's head backwards killing them. Some cars in the 1990s had a manual switch for you to turn the front passenger airbag on/off depending on whether or not a child was sitting there, but of course people forgot to flip the switch. Nowadays pret
      • by Osgeld ( 1900440 )

        Nowadays pretty much all cars use a weight sensor under the seat to gauge the weight of the occupant, and decide whether or not to deploy the front passenger airbag.

        yes but that still doesnt mean it cant react mechanically, sensor cuts power to ball switch, it doesnt matter how many times it makes contact

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      The old fashioned method was airbags used to be triggered by a magnetic ball embedded in a 'cup' that on the application of severe deceleration, the ball popped out, closed a circuit and triggered the airbag. The same goes for seat-belts. A rotating wheel that trip and engages a cog on the application of a set amount of acceleration.

      That has problems. First, there's no self-diagnostics to verify the system works. A magnetic ball also cannot detect if there was a deceleration or negative acceleration (specia

      • by ebvwfbw ( 864834 )

        ...an airbag going off because the guy in front of you rammed you from the front while you were stopped is generally considered a bad event (airbags should never go off if you're stopped).

        If I'm coming at you with a 20 ton dump truck around 30 MPH and swerve to miss a cute little bunny and run into the front of your car while you're stopped at a light, you're really going to want that air bag to deploy.

  • OMG, 4,3M vehicles, when is Tesla admitting that AutoPilot is a deathtrap and... oh...
  • "Vehicles affected by the recall include ... x,y,z. It also includes z, y x..."

    Perhaps a single sentence would suffice, if not a simple link to all affected models. Journalism isn't a middle school writing assignment where you get more credit by submitting 2 pages.
  • by hcs_$reboot ( 1536101 ) on Friday September 09, 2016 @10:48PM (#52860399)
    You stop the car and turn the key. At this moment, the car tells you "Stage 1 of 173. Configuring updates. Do not turn off the car". Too bad you were late for that meeting...
    • by AaronW ( 33736 ) on Friday September 09, 2016 @11:31PM (#52860533) Homepage

      On my care I have to accept the update. It defaults to installing it at 2am after accepting it, though you can change the time or just have it install immediately. It typically takes 45 minutes for a full update, all the while all sorts of clicks and noises come from the car as different systems are reinitialized.

  • This sounds suspiciously like the Volkswagen scam. Certain driving patterns change the behavior of the vehicle. I wonder if the emissions parameters change too?
    • It's totally different. In that case it was a German company, so the entire management team should be dragged away in handcuffs. GM is a good 'ol American company, and so it's just business.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    To imagine that the proper latching of a Mechanical Component such as a seat belt is dependent on software is beyond be believable. Why should any such a thing be allowed by law? That is just insane! Similarly the deployment of an air bag should be activated by a purely mechanical system having nothing to do with computation. This is a case of technology degrading the usefulness of safety systems. STOP! .

  • Does anyone know who is the producer of Airbag modules involved ? Thank you

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