FBI Operated 23 Tor-Hidden Child Porn Sites, Deployed Malware From Them (arstechnica.com) 176
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Federal investigators temporarily seized a Tor-hidden site known as Playpen in 2015 and operated it for 13 days before shutting it down. The agency then used a "network investigative technique" (NIT) as a way to ensnare site users. However, according to newly unsealed documents recently obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union, the FBI not only temporarily took over one Tor-hidden child pornography website in order to investigate it, the organization was in fact authorized to run a total of 23 other such websites. According to an FBI affidavit among the unsealed documents: "In the normal course of the operation of a web site, a user sends "request data" to the web site in order to access that site. While Websites 1-23 operate at a government facility, such request data associated with a user's actions on Websites 1-23 will be collected. That data collection is not a function of the NIT. Such request data can be paired with data collected by the NIT, however, in order to attempt to identify a particular user and to determine that particular user's actions on Websites 1-23." Security researcher Sarah Jamie Lewis told Ars that "it's a pretty reasonable assumption" that at one point the FBI was running roughly half of the known child porn sites hosted on Tor-hidden servers. Lewis runs OnionScan, an ongoing bot-driven analysis of the Tor-hidden darknet. Her research began in April 2016, and it shows that as of August 2016, there were 29 unique child porn related sites on Tor-hidden servers. That NIT, which many security experts have dubbed as malware, used a Tor exploit of some kind to force the browser to return the user's actual IP address, operating system, MAC address, and other data. As part of the operation that took down Playpen, the FBI was then able to identify and arrest the nearly 200 child porn suspects. (However, nearly 1,000 IP addresses were revealed as a result of the NIT's deployment, which could suggest that even more charges may be filed.)
I'm afraid to click on any of this article's links (Score:3)
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Too late, you came to this article. We have your IP and are coming to your home to arrest you.
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Pedophiles fear many things. If they seek psychiatric help, the doctor is required to report them. So they stay untreated in the shadows. Other countries are more enlightened. In Japan, pedophiles can buy child-sized sex dolls [independent.co.uk]. Although data is scarce, the dolls appear to provide a release for their predilection and reduce offenses against actual children. This is unlikely to happen in America, but soon we will have a sexual predator as our president, so maybe he will be more empathetic.
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Yeah, except... no. Those allegations fell apart the day after the election.
Besides, we had a sexual predator in the White house starting in 1992, and it didn't seem to matter much.
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You've got to understand. This is Slashdot. Most readers here can't get laid, or if they have, their partner count is low. They don't understand what it is like to follow the baseball metaphor for sex. If they have sex at all, it is because the woman finally settles for them and initiates everything (after fucking a lot of alpha guys less worthy than Trump).
So, "grab them by the pussy" means nothing to a man who only can have sex when a woman grabs him by the balls.
Anyone who is remotely attractive and ta
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You are so painfully full of shit I don't know whether to laugh or cringe.
"There are at least 2 dozen girls I've done this with in less than 2 hours," really good sir? A tip of the fedora to you, that's an active fucking imagination you've got. A shame you can't tell the difference between what's real and what goes in in your cum-stained mind.
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When the police investigated and concluded that the fantasy hopes of anti-Trump children don't constitute a spontaneous materialization of crimes that never happened.
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If they seek psychiatric help, the doctor is required to report them. So they stay untreated in the shadows.
This is a good point. They've made it dangerous for these people to seek treatment (not that many of them do, but still...).
In a way I almost feel sorry for them. We don't pick what we like or what we're attracted to, and it seems clear that most pedophiles are driven by urges far beyond conscious choice. (I mean, who would consciously choose to be attracted to children? No one, that's who.)
So obviously we can't let them do what they want to do (molest children), but at the same time we should recognize tha
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There's been some sort of growth change as of late (I blame the hormones-infested meat the industry pushes into supermarkets). During the last two decades, I'll be darned if I can reliably tell whether that hot chick I see on the street is 24 or 14. Could be anything in between.
If you don't ask for an ID, you could spend long years in jail.
Back in 2002 I almost fell for it. Luckily I asked her which University she went to and she serenely said "I'm 8th grade". Mind you, that was in a bar.
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I'll be darned if I can reliably tell whether that hot chick I see on the street is 24 or 14.
It's not just you. They sure don't look like they did when I was younger.
I see young women in stores and yeah, they could be 15 or they could be in their 20s. And they're a lot more curvy or buxom or whatever than I remember them being when I was in high school or junior high. Some scientific studies are claiming that the age of puberty is dropping, so maybe that's it.
https://www.theguardian.com/so... [theguardian.com]
http://sph.unc.edu/age-of-pube... [unc.edu]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... [nih.gov]
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/0... [newsweek.com]
"At the t
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There's been some sort of growth change as of late (I blame the hormones-infested meat the industry pushes into supermarkets). During the last two decades, I'll be darned if I can reliably tell whether that hot chick I see on the street is 24 or 14.
That's true, but it's not the same thing as pedophilia. Our society has the bad habit of treating someone exactly the same whether they sleep with a kid or a 17 year-old. Media is partly to blame, because "child" is a highly inflammatory term in the context of sexuality, so they overuse that term. The result now is that someone with a healthy brain who is attracted to young adults can end up being treated the same as someone with an abnormal brain (who is attracted to children). Our collective enjoyment of
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Why is this comment listed as "troll"?
Be definition, Former President and Governor Bill Clinton used his position of power to have sexual relations with two women which is what a sexual predator does. Yet we have little proof so far that President elect Donald Trump is a predator. And please don't claim the supposed the 13-year old girl rape case as proof because that case hasn't seen a court room. Nor is there proof to all the claims that suddenly appeared right before the election. None of those have seen a court room either just as with the some of encounters of Bill Clinton's. There is thing called innocent until proven guilty.
Ain't partisanship grand?
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I browse with a VPN service all the time. I'm afraid to browse without it, for reasons like this.
Okay, maybe the VPN provider lied and does keep logs, but at least it's another layer of (likely international) process they need to through.
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Re:eh (Score:5, Insightful)
i think most can argue even in true free markets that who cares what happens to people that like that.
The question is whether that data collection was legal, and fell with a scope that didn't amount to a fishing expedition. There are two main reasons everyone should care about this:
1) If it's not legal, then it risks these suspects going free on a technicality.
2) If it's not legal, but people decide to just let it slip by because "those people are horrible", then it sets a precedent that said methods are OK, and it gets harder for it later to be declared illegal when the government starts using it for less clear-cut or outright nefarious purposes.
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There's a third option:
3) It didn't happen, but people think the FBI can make it happen.
After rounding up these 1000 undesirables, next month word will get out that the FBI actually ran 300 child porn sites, and "I have here in my hand a list of two thousand and fifty commun... sorry, pedophiles."
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You think being a Communist during the Red Scare is just like "having a difference of opinion on politics?"
The point was that someone who overstated his ability to gather information about evildoers apparently padded out his numbers a little bit with a few extra names here and there. Of course, nobody would question whether he ACTUALLY had 205 names of card-carrying Communists in his hand, they trusted him because they believed he had the ability to identify these Communists.
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In those cases back then - yes - frequently that's all it was and today we'd even call some of those people libertarians and a wide range of other labels depending on who they were. Even the Hollywood millionaire Charlie Chaplin was called a communist while he and a pile of others called communists by McCarthy etc were nothing but anti-fascists. Where the scare fell apart was when General Marshall of
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Paedophiles are just like the rest of us. There isn't a risk of them molesting children any more than there is a risk of your heterosexual non-pedo neighbour raping your wife. They couldn't find enough child molesters so they fabricated it. The stories about cults of paedophiles were shown to be fabricated and false. They were created by terrible police tactics which got kids to say things that were false. What is a risk is reducing the supply of pornography of any type. The studies that have been done wher
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I think 2) may be the intention.
Is Tor still vulnerable? (Score:5, Interesting)
That NIT, which many security experts have dubbed as malware, used a Tor exploit of some kind to force the browser to return the user's actual IP address,
Does anyone know if that exploit has been fixed or is it still unpatched? If the FBI can use this exploit to catch child pornographers then other, possibly malicious, people can use the same exploit.
Re: Is Tor still vulnerable? (Score:2)
Only a moron would actually turn on flash in a browser.
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The EFF [eff.org] is trying to force the FBI to disclose the exploit they used. To date, the FBI has not publicly revealed it.
In addition to difficult questions concerning the Fourth Amendment, Rule 41, and the limits of government hacking, the Playpen cases raise an important question about the future of digital rights: whether, to what extent, and under what circumstances the government must disclose to criminal defendants how the government carried out its hacking.
In the Playpen cases, the government has provided some information to the accused about how the “network investigative technique,” or “NIT,” operated. But, critically, the government refuses to produce the exploit it used to allegedly take control of suspects' computers.
That refusal—in addition to all the other problems with the Playpen cases—violates the rights of the accused. And, as at least one court has correctly found, the refusal to disclose the exploit to the defense requires suppression of evidence obtained as a result.
At its core, the government's argument is: “You don’t need to know how we got into your computer (the exploit) because it does not change the information that we took from your computer (the private information copied and transmitted by the payload). Just trust us on this.”
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It's not a vulnerability in TOR, it's a vulnerability in the Firefox browser that shipped with the TOR Browser bundle. It's been patched.
Also, it looks like it only affected people with JavaScript enabled. Beware hidden sites that require JavaScript, they are almost certainly traps trying to unmask you.
entrapment (Score:5, Insightful)
Why is this not entrapment?
If they offer 23 out of 29 sites, that would seem to be increasing enticement...
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Because they didn't make them do anything they wouldn't have otherwise done and they didn't force them to do it.
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Never an excuse for the seller?
Alrighty, let's haul the entire FBI department responsible for this off the federal prison for peddling child porn. Or are they just above the law because reasons?
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"properly authorized" still means they have to be clean themselves. For example, they can't have sex with you then arrest you for solicitations based on that sex. If the servers had child pron on them and the FBI was running them, then they broke the law themselves since simply possessing said porn is a crime. It surprises me that nobody brought up this little twist yet.
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I would assume that they use a similar argument to what bittorrent sites use -- they host a service, but they don't explicitly provide the content. Though the FBI probably has less work to defend that argument since nobody's going to be too hard on them for trying to stop CP (unlike the *AAs trying to stop bittorrent sites.) Just hard enough to ensure they're following the rules and not risk having their eventual cases tossed on a technicality.
Of course at some point they're going to have to review more t
Re: entrapment (Score:2)
My understanding of US law is that "putting a female police officer in a skirt and asking if you want a good time" *isn't* entrapment. The punter can simply say "no thanks" and walk on. It's entrapment if the punter is coerced into doing something illegal because you are given no choice but to break the law.
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I'm reasonably sure that the officer can't specifically ask a potential john -- the john would have to ask them. Otherwise the john could claim that they wouldn't have considered the thought of the officer hadn't suggested it.
Not sure if that's technically entrapment or not (because only words were exchanged not money) but its still a pretty shaky case to bring in front of a judge whereas if the john made the approach, the case is fairly solid that he was specifically searching for a prostitute.
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That's what I was thinking -- if the FBI was supplying a significant amount of porn sites compared to what is normally there, it is likely to have an effect.
Compare this to the argument that that intra-state sales of something affects inter-state pricing because intra-state sales affects availability. If the FBI is increasing availability, doesn't that mean it's lowering the difficulty in randomly coming across such a site and being tempted by it?
If the FBI increases supply by 383% (23 more sites compared
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The FBI did not increase supply at all. They simply delayed the decreasing of supply after seizing sites that already existed.
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Article said they took down 1 but operated it for 13 days to entice more. Fine. But then it said they got permission to operate 23 such sites. To me that sounded like they used the 1 site and made 22 copies of it. There was nothing to indicate they got the 22 copies by busting 22 different servers -- at least not from what the article said.
Why would they need to get permission to operate 23 such sites when it sounds like they needed no permission at all to bust 1 site and operate it for 2 weeks after th
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Except we are talking about child pornography here which is illegal to possess even for the FBI.
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Um, isn't that the norm? They are doing it for the children!
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It's off the top of my head so don't use the excuse that it is an old case, but one of the most utterly ridiculous ones was from the Clinton era that ended up being described in a book as "Saddams Nuclear Triggers". It took months for FBI agents to convince a British industrial parts supplier to buy an item from one FBI agent and sell the same thing to another and claim that the supplier was suppo
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My point is still that the very lazy policing of entrapment is still being practiced at times and that line between getting the attention of criminals and enticing people into performing criminal acts that they may not have otherwise done is crossed on occasion.
I'd prefer them to put some more effort into actually catching child rapists, which seems to be getting ignored to chase after those who lo
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Cases get thrown out due to obvious entrapment every now and again
And a drug cultivator's case got thrown out a few weeks ago in Amsterdam too, that doesn't make it okay for everyone to grow drugs and that doesn't mean the technicality his got thrown out for suddenly applies to everyone.
Entrapment has a very clear legal definition. Come back when people directly prosecuted in this case have their cases thrown out due to "obvious" entrapment. After all it was a child porn site. Unless the FBI took out newspaper ads or started an advertising campaign all they did was catch
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Yes. I gave an example of something fitting that. So did the cartoon linked by the other guy above.
This time looks a lot like it at first glance and looks like lazy policing to hit performance targets instead of catching actual criminals but the details are what matters. If the suspected perpetrator gets onto the site without actively trying to find anything illegal then it is a fuckup and a waste of taxpayers money equivalent to planting drugs on people then a
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While generally a good comic for the topic I don't like the example of a protest march. It isn't illegal to walk, there isn't an indication that the people in the march had conspired to block anything etc. Unless doing something that is legal at the same time as others that do the same legal thing is illegal that makes no sense.
(I understand that the scenario was chosen to illustrate what isn't entrapment but it still pisses me off)
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Here's a hint: police have more rights than ordinary people in order to enforce laws. While it is commonly avoided police have been distributing weapons and illegal drugs (with the receiver under careful watch) in order to catch criminals. Why is this different? The intent is to catch criminals, that is people that download and/or distribute child pornography, so they set up a way to identify the persons accessing the illegal goods and continue to make it available a while. Analogous operations have been do
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I'm just wondering if you have to fail a psych exam to be allowed to do this sort of work (kind of like you need to to serve on a sub)...
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No that is _not_ how it works, unless FBI made people download child pornography that they wouldn't otherwise have downloaded then it isn't entrapment. Police dressing up as hookers isn't entrapment if they don't try to convince people to have sex with them for money. Police acting as drug dealers isn't entrapment unless they try to convince people to buy drugs from them.
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And that's why we have a court system. ;^)
@ http://legal-dictionary.thefre... [thefreedictionary.com], they say this (among many other things):
"The [entrapment] defense is not available if the officer merely created an opportunity for the commission of the crime by a person already planning or willing to commit it."
If someone has never seen a child porn site, but stumbles upon one, and is curious about why someone would find such things sexual, and stumbles upon such a site due to their being over 300% more sites (due to police ru
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The problem with your notion is that somewhere someone has to get people under the age of majority to take their clothes off. This means in most jurisdictions the photos themselves were produced unlawfully.
And, of course a great deal of child porn is far more than simply naked under age people posing.
So do you still think people should be able to look at pictures, even the most benign of which are in most, if not all cases, produced criminally involving at least one party who cannot lawfully grant consent?
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Don't be so sure about that: Many countries have laws that define child pornography to explicitly include artistic depictions or photoshopped fake images (known legally as 'pseudophotgraphs' in the UK).
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You've described the Libertarian alt-right future, where not only will you have the freedom to starve or die from treatable injuries and diseases, but where you'll have the added liberty of selling your children into sexual slavery.
Question for the FBI (Score:4, Insightful)
When, may I ask, will the FBI go after the creators of child porn, and not just the consumers? The peopel who actually and directly abuse children for money? Or is it a lot simpler easier to entrap the customers, since you can wave the contraband in their faces? It's rather like penalizing people who drink poisoned water rather than finding the poisoners.
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The creators are motivated by and profit from consumer demand
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Fool! Don't question libertarian orthodoxy on Slashdot.
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And there I thought America has learned it's lesson after decades of the "War on Drugs". Arresting junkies does not prevent drug crime. The demand is already there (people are predisposed to take drugs), outlawing people's urges does not magically make urges go away. I would argue that the relationship is inverse, it is child pornographers who prey on the weaknesses of people who have the natural inclination to desire such things.
But on a more pragmatic note, criminalizing possession has negative effects as
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1. They do.
2. Many of these sites are for sharing kiddie porn. You know like Reddit, YouTube, and Blogs are for sharing things. The consumers are often the creators.
3. " It's rather like penalizing people who drink poisoned water rather than finding the poisoners." Really? These people are going to a tor dark web site called the playpen and you are trying to paint them as victims? How about this instead, "it is like penalizing people that pay people to sexually abuse children for there entertainment".... Ye
reminiscent of the Reverse Sting drug deal (Score:2)
only to ensnare a rube who'd never be able to purchase at that level from legitimate drug dealers.
We can debate justifying the ethics of creating an environment that may have never existed for a drug arrest, but operating a pedobear porn site for a second crosses a line you cannot return from.
Except (Score:5, Informative)
1. They had 2 warrants and judges approve the tactic. If you want to complain about the judges that is fair game, but the FBI did follow the rules. 2. The FBI did not setup these sites, they seized them through legal process.
I am extremely pro US Constitution and don't see what they did as wrong. They followed the legal process as they should. What I wish we could see is how many arrests they made from the tactic.
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Legal? plausibly
Defensible behavior? No. "Honey, what did you do at work today?"
"Ran a kiddie porn site for the greater good!"
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Defensible behavior? No. "Honey, what did you do at work today?"
"Ran a kiddie porn site for the greater good!"
Yes because catching sick fucks through legal means is not "defensible"
"Honey, what did you do at work today?"
"I just shutdown a website paedophiles were using. We could have used that website to catch many of them and place them all behind bars but we just decided to close it and let them all go instead."
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It seems little different from any other kind of sting. Whether you have cops posing as drug dealers, prostitutes, or posing as public officials taking a bribe, so long as the perp is not enticed by the undercover officer or his associates into committing the crime, honey traps are permissible.
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I'm sure when the FBI is going after drug gangs and cartels, they will go a lot deeper than just busting the street dealer. And as others have pointed out, these are seized sites being used as honey pots.
I'm not clear why, providing it has been approved by a judge, anyone would have a problem with this. Undercover cops will embed themselves a helluva lot more than just keeping a server up and running and logging user details.
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And what makes the US exempt from other countries laws regarding distribution of child porn?
The FBI could easily be dragged into court in my country for what they did!
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What I'm wondering is how often such stings have ever collided. "You're-" "under-" arrest..." *stereo* "Wait, what?"
Your resident pedo here (Score:5, Interesting)
The hosting site in question was known as "Freedom Hosting", it was the host of many sites including OPVA (main CP video site), Lolita City (main CP pic site), TorMail (used by everyone and their dog) and many others. The cops took over *all* of them when they took the host, what they're talking about here is the server request logs. The NIT was supposedly only deployed on CP sites, but that's a lie it was deployed on all sites hosted by FH. I'm not about to testify on that though.
The exploit was based on a Javascript exploit in Firefox, in the CP community it was well known that you should disable any form of scripting that TorBrowser insist on shipping enabled because otherwise it'd break too many regular sites. So in the end they caught a few nobodies that didn't follow best practices, shafted someone who only did the hosting and punch water knocking out the main sites. It's like bittorrent, we tend to crowd but the crowd could always meet somewhere else.
For what it's worth, they also took over TLZ (The Love Zone) and ran it for half a year. Playpen they took over and ran for two weeks. They catch the people who do stupid things like pay for hosting with non-anonymous methods, say compromising things in private messages and so on. They pick of the stupid, the smart stay on... 20+ years and counting, the cops are n00bs. They think the scene is TPB, it's just barely scratching the surface.
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They disclosed the JS exploits from the first FH busts and Playpen was much later. Given how hard they've dug in their heels on this one (letting evidence be suppressed, guaranteeing the person walks free), it's entirely likely this isn't the basic JS exploit from back in the LC days. There's good reason to believe it's file-based (see, 7-zip and JPEG2000 code execution flaws, others that cause certain media players to contact a server when opened) or some more serious bug not involving allowing scripts or
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You talk like you have some exciting insight to offer in a cat and mouse game, but in reality your a just a generic dirtbag lowlife that gets off jerking off to kids. This weekend i worked with some newer grad FBI agents and their capabilities are fucking amazing, they get it. Ive been doing UNIX and dev for 20+ years and was impressed. Make no mistake you are only free because of budgets and priorities (which change), not because they are "noobs". Your days are numbered.
You're only hearing the news from the Iraqi information minister on the crushing defeats and trembling of the enemy as they flee from the mighty police.
1. Society is getting hyper-sexual and it is less and less related to love and reproduction. People have sex because it feels good, younger and younger adolescents are picking up on that and experiment with their sexuality and have earlier and more advanced sex.
2. Camera phones and webcams means young ones record more, share more in constantly improving qual
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Hi fellow AC, I'm your next door neighbor. As a pastime, I've put out a standing offer to everyone on our street to pay for photos and videos of them raping you. I'm sure you don't mind, because I'm not going to be harming you at all.
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The irony here is, the resulting videos and photos would not be illegal, so long as that AC wasn't a minor.
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No.
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To think that he's alone in being able to thwart NIT is naive. There are a lot of stupid people, but an NIT should be pretty simple to thwart amongst any Tor-using paedophile communities that exist. I know of dozens of methods other non-pedophile Tor users use to thwart these attacks.
Examples: Disabling javascript would have stopped this attack, click 'high security' option in the Tor Browser would have stopped the attack, running Tails would have stopped this attack. Running Tor Browser as a separate user
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That is not how the world works. No, they will not be sentenced as it isn't illegal for them _with_permission_ to serve goods that would be illegal otherwise, this in order to catch actual criminals. While most of the time police try to use dummy goods (fake drugs that appear genuine unless tested chemically, weapons that seem to work 100% but can't actually be fired etc.) sometimes that isn't possible - and this is the case here. This isn't something novel and it isn't something illegal for the police.
I know those raided over this, info inaccurate (Score:4, Interesting)
The FBI needlessly raided, embarrassed, and stole a lot of property from people it disliked irregardless of the fact they didn't even know who they were targeting in most cases. The IP addresses don't equal persons or places to be searched despite what the courts have accepted. I know that because I can demonstrate it here with this very example. I do know that in this case the FBI did know who they were targeting because they were targeting an activist or two or group who stood up against the FBI for immoral and reprehensible behaviour (distributing child porn). Mark Edge and Ian Freeman stood up and called the FBI out just two weeks before they raided the studio of Free Talk Live and home of numerous liberty activists. The government has been targeting Ian Freeman's reputation for some time and slandering/libeling his name making claims he's a paedophile who advocates for the rape of children under six. Ian advocates against the use of violence including against children and doesn't think children under six should be having or are ready for sex.
Here is what I can tell you: The warrants didn't name a person, place, location, and specific things to be seized. In this case they've stolen a few dozen computers and devices from many innocent parties. The courts literally rubber stamp these types of warrants and higher courts have ensured this continues.
You can see exactly what happens in the videos below (thanks to other activists who recorded the raid). FTL is a libertarian talk show that has promoted the Free State Project which is a migration of liberty minded activists to New Hampshire for the purpose of pursuing liberty and freedom. Check out www.freekeene.com for Liberty news in New Hampshire. And don't worry- if you join us there are thousands of people here already. You won't be raided as long as you don't live near the home of the most active activists. They didn't succeed in undermining the movement (which actually consists of numerous groups throughout New Hampshire) and within a handful of hours they raised $5,000 and got Free Talk Live on air- before they even missed airing a single episode.
Check out:
http://www.copblock.org/156621/got-enemies-have-the-fbi/
Raid itself:
http://freekeene.com/2016/03/20/men-donning-badges-steal-property-from-free-talk-live-studios/
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No, you don't understand. The scum bags who paint Ian as a paedophile twisted a story about him being molested at the age of six into a story about him advocating for sex with children at six or under. All he ever said was that he didn't feel it was a traumatic experience and that automatically making it out to be this terrible thing was nothing more than FUD by conservatives and religious nut jobs. Ian doesn't think the government should be involved in deciding what age is appropriate for 'children' to hav
Rule 29 b. (Score:3)
Rule 29 is now amended thusly:
Rule 29 (a) In the Internet all the girls are men and all kids are undercover FBI agents.
(b) All child porn servers are FBI servers
Which should have been obvious before this.
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BMO
I don't feel too sorry for the chesters...... (Score:2)
Disgusted but not surprised (Score:3)
The primary target should be catching the people molesting the kids in the first place, but instead those get left alone as being too difficult.
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Disgusted but not surprised - how about they put in the hard work of solving crimes instead of the quick way to promotion of enabling crimes and catching the people they have tempted?
The primary target should be catching the people molesting the kids in the first place, but instead those get left alone as being too difficult.
Um. From what I read, to be a part of at least some of those sites you have to upload your own material, so probably a lot of the people who were signing up WERE actually doing some of the abuse.
Good thing (Score:2)
Good Grief! (Score:2)
Oh my God. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. You are committing crimes in the course of your undercover investigation and abrogating 4th amendment rights.
No, "kiddie porn" and "think of the children" doesn't justify it. NOTHING does.
Signed,
A concerned citizen