AT&T Offering Day Pass For International Travelers (cnet.com) 101
Starting Friday, AT&T customers who travel abroad can sign up for a new International Day Pass plan. Instead of paying by the minute, message or megabyte, the plan lets you pay a $10-a-day flat free so you can talk and text "all you want" and also access your data plan as though you're in the states. From a report: AT&T said the new plan is available for customers traveling to more than 100 countries listed here. To use the new plan, customers just need to add it once and it will automatically kick in each time they travel to a supported country, until it's removed.
Overpriced (Score:5, Insightful)
The only thing more overpriced than this plan is their regular international rates.
ATT is garbage. Fortunately for them, their largest competitor is also garbage so they stay in business.
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> regular international rates
Which are just ridiculous. I live in Seattle, and when I go to Canada I get charged $19.97 per MByte by AT&T. The last trip I made the mistake of downloading a 10 MB PDF email attachment and was charged about $200 for it.
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That seems crazy, especially since with Cricket (owned by AT&T) on their $50/month plan you can roam to Mexico and Canada for no extra charge.
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I can only get dial up here. It takes me 10 hours to download a 10 MB PDF.
10 hours? Even at 28.8 you should be able to get 10 megs in under an hour...
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I live in Seattle and work maintenance. I can only get dial up here. It takes me 10 hours to download a 10 MB PDF.
Dialup? Luxury! When I were a lad we had to walk ten miles to our ISP (aka. library) in the rain and snow, uphill both directions, stand in line for 26 hours a day to read the one book the library had, pay the library for the privilege of reading it, and then copy it out by hand for the next person to read. Tell that to the youth of today...
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Yep. When I travel in Europe, I set up a Skype number and get a local SIM card with data, typically for €10 for 2GB of data.
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That's quite overpriced, but I suppose it depends on where in Europe you travel. Here in Italy I pay 10€/mo for 6GB LTE, 600 minutes and 600 SMS's (which I never ever come close to finish).
Re: Overpriced (Score:4, Informative)
In general though, I find connectivity in the US to be expensive. I pay $55 for uncapped 1000/1000mbit fiber to my home, and about the same for my mobile connection, which has a 40GB data limit, and free calls and text,and I can use it in 47 countries right now without any additional charge, the US included.
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Mine is a pre-paid plan too, basically you recharge your credit and they take off a monthly fee. If your credit isn't enough, you have 7 days to recharge to reactivate the offer, otherwise you lose it. It is basically like a subscription, but you're not contractually bound with them for 2 years.
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Fastweb, but such offer isn't sold anymore. I see now they have the Mobile250 with 250min/250sms/6GB for 6€/mo. Or MobileFreedom with unlimited calls and SMS's, 6GB at 15€/mo.
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As it is, after overage charges, I usually pay half that for 10+10, and that's living about as close to the "digital bohemian" life I can stand.
And FWIW, AT&T currently considers 22GB/month "unlimited", beyond which they "prioritize" your data to a trickle.
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Not really keen to sign up for $300+ a month in mobile charges just so I can view youtube, but the option actually seems v
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Now, the reason they spend all that money was to prevent competition so that they can continue providing a terrible service for a lot of money.
AT&T have been the victims of antitrust action before and they've learned their lesson. They are never going to let that happen again, and you are going to fund it for them.
You might not lik
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Super overpriced. I got 30 days of unlimited talk/text and 10 gb of data for less than 20 GBP from ASDA mobile when I was in the UK.
The only drawback I saw was that I didn't get LTE speeds, "only" 4G. I wasn't sure if that was a radio limitation of my US-bought iPhone 6 plus or a limitation of the plan. It also didn't allow for tethering.
The practical drawbacks of that were nil for me, speeds were just fine for maps, email, web and every other smartphone thing I wanted to do and the hotel had free and qu
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Even Passport is ridiculously overpriced for what it offers. I spent a month in northern Europe earlier this year and the AT&T Passport service was a PITA - overpriced, slow, and prone to exceptions which allow them to overcharge even more.
But given the current deregulatory environment, prices will only go up....
competition (Score:5, Informative)
Ain't competition great - T-Mobile has been including this in for no extra per day cost for a while now.
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YUP! As someone who frequents Canada, it is freaggin amazing to have awesome cell service up there without any fees whatsoever. My Canadian buddies are usually pissed off because I have better/faster access from my USA T-Mobile phone than they do with their local phone providers.
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I've used T-mobile's $10/mo international plan across the EU, and it works like a charm. Yes, the per-minute rate is 20c, which is fairly reasonable where connections are too erratic to support VoIP. Tether your laptop, and away you go!
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https://www.t-mobile.com/optio... [t-mobile.com]
I've used it in Italy, France, Ireland, and China. Works pretty well, but official tethering is a crapshoot depending on what network you are roaming on (China/Italy worked, in Ireland/France couldn't get official tethering to work).
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VZW has it too, $2/day for Mexico and Canada. Not sure what the pricing is for other countries.
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$10/day for everywhere else.
https://www.verizonwireless.co... [verizonwireless.com]
Re: competition (Score:2)
Not everywhere. One civilized country omitted from the list is Japan.
$10/day would be great compared to how much it would cost otherwise - it costs at least that much to rent a phone with service on top of that.
Why?
Because of their "screw you gaijin" laws that prevent non-residents from buying prepaid SIM cards for voice and text. You can get data SIMs, but they noticed the VOIP loophole and the days for that are now likely numbered. Why not do it like the EU where a passport is good enough ID?
I wonder wha
Not quite (Score:2)
There's no voice, only text and data. Reason voice is excluded has to do with archaic regulations as best as I can tell. Things are changing in that regard so it'll probalby change at some point. However right now you get talk to and from the US, Canada, and Mexico. Everywhere else voice is extra charge. Text and data are available in most countries and are included with no extra charge.
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OK, yes, I forgot about the archaic regular phone call mode not being included. Get a VOIP app and you're all set though.
Re: Countdown (Score:2)
Well, how about "they are using arbitrarily carrier-locked phones to fuck you into using their price-gouging international rates instead of just allowing you to get a prepaid SIM in whatever country you visit"
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Or better still, "They are an increasingly unregulated bloated bureaucracy that can't survive without statutory advantages which allow them to gouge from consumers who don't understand that telco regulation exists for a reason, and it's not to stifle innovation, it's to restrict disadvantaging the customers in a very slanted business environment"
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Evil? Nah. Totally dickish? You bet!
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Only if you're traveling in the country for a 30 day stretch.
Actually not a bad price... (Score:2)
If you are going to be in a country for more than 2 weeks or so, this is a bad deal... for these travelers, it's much less expensive to go thru the hassle of getting a local SIM and number....
But for the majority of travelers, this is a pretty good service... for a week trip or so, it's under $100. Worth it for the convenience of keeping your number and not dealing with putting in a SIM.
I'm not sure why this made it to ./, as VZ has offered it since last summer. Maybe now that most carriers offer internatio
Finally (Score:1)
Awesome. Now you can pay as much in a week as you usually do for a whole month, PLUS the base fee! All to get a thing that doesn't cost them a single dime more than they'd otherwise be paying!
Thanks, AT&T.
Editors!! (Score:2)
A flat free? But what if I want a flat expensive?
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Read between the parts you bolded: "each time they travel to a supported country." So, no, it does not mean you keep paying after you return.
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If you go over your cap, the overage rate you pay will be the same as if you incurred the overage in the US.
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It only kicks in while you are traveling in the other country. It's not something you're continuously billed. Not that it isn't still a ripoff, but you don't need to falsely exaggerate to prove that point.
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You are exaggerating. You don't get billed $300 every month.
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Let us say I want to travel to Europe for two weeks. That's $140 just for them to not charge me insane rates. On top of that I pay their usual $8 per gigabyte. Let's say I just want to use navigation and download a couple of PDFs. Say 2GB total. Their price: $156 for that trip! With something like Google Fi I will pay an extra $20 for that trip.
It's overpriced.
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say that you're travelling to finland..
a month of unlimited 3g/4g is about 10 bucks with a local sim.
What about travellers _to_ the USA? (Score:2)
What they need to do is have some weekly plan for travels to the USA. They'd make a fortune selling a cheap weekly throw away SIM with data and a few minutes and texts. Travellers want data for using Maps and looking up stuff of interest (and emails), but don't want to have to fork out $70 when they pay â10/month at home for 10G of data. Come up with something cheap for a week and you'll get plenty of tourists picking up a SIM every time they land. (Oh, and drop the charge for the SIM itself - in E
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Many carriers in other countries are doing something similar. For example, Rogers in Canada has "Roam Like Home". This works the same way as AT&T's program, except it's only $5 (CAD) per day to the US, or $10 (CAD) per day to other countries.
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Do what my wife does.
Go to a Walmart and buy a $10 flip phone with an hour of prepaid minutes.
Use free wifi for looking things up on a smarter device.
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Some countries, even in the developed world, don't have prevalent free wifi. See: Japan.
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This traveller gets "free" roaming and data in the US as part of his regular UK contract. (Three with "feel at home" - £20-£30 month depending on how many minutes you want). The only snag is that although voice calls to UK numbers come out of the regular contract allowance, calling another US phone still counts as an international call - still, for phoning home, mail & maps its great.
I'm sure it won't last...
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It seems way harder to get burner sims in Europe - in the US you can just buy them with no ID.
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It depends where in Europe. Remember, Europe's not a country. Spain for instance requires ID, but the UK (which at least until 2019 is still part of Europe) you can buy SIMs from a vending machine at the airport with cash.
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If you have international roaming enabled you will get a charge of $10 per device per day (versus the standard international charges). If you have international roaming disabled (most phones only allow data roaming to be disabled), it will not connect to the other country's base station.
Terrible deal (Score:2)
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It's only a "deal" since they haven't found a way to triple the price yet.
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Hope your phone isn't frequency locked to Verizon. Typical Verizon phones won't work _at all_ most places.
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Most Verizon phones for years have had worldwide GSM support.
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Their data rate is expensive when abroad. $2.05 per megabyte. That's $2,048 per gigabyte. Compare that with Project Fi at $10 per gigabyte. So in some ways paying an extra $10 per day (plus normal US data rates) is a huge deal for them, but still not better than Project Fi.
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Using a local SIM card is only an option if you don't have a carrier locked phone, which AT&T doesn't exactly distribute.
Buy a phone with a subsidy, get fucked when traveling internationally.
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Local simcard (Score:5, Interesting)
And this is why people who travel a lot use local simcards and do all their communication on WhatsApp these days.,
Last time I needed a simcard when in a foreign country it cost me $5, gave me 1GB of data and lasted two weeks.
Re: Local simcard (Score:5, Informative)
I'm Canadian. The last time I was in the US I bought a prepaid SIM from Roam Mobility.
Cost $5 (CAD) per day while in the US. You preload it by setting which days you expect to be in the US, and prepay for it prior to your trip.
Each day added 1GB of data to the "pool" of usable Data while traveling + unlimited calling and sms/mms.
I was in the US for 6 days, so it cost me $30 and gave me 6GB of Data. The area I was in had LTE, so it was actually quite useful.
It's not the cheapest, but one of the better deals available without too much hassle. My carrier offers the same thing as AT&T, but for Canadians travelling to the US. Cost is also $10/day. Activate it by sending a text message to a special number.
I suspect they prey on people who don't buy unlocked devices, or know how to unlock their devices, essentially forcing their clients to have to pay those prices.
Catching up.. (Score:2)
Other carriers, such as Verizon, have been offering this exact plan for a while now.
Welcome to the present, AT&T.
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Other carriers, such as Verizon, have been offering this exact plan for a while now.
Welcome to the present, AT&T.
And Verizon's TravelPass is only $2/day for Mexico and Canada... For $2/day that's quite a bit less hassle than dealing with SIM-cards...
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Thanks for Nothing AT&T (Score:2)
Pretty much all the countries I'd be interested in are not on the list.... (sad face)
Wait, Venezuela is on the list but PNG isn't? Heck, most of the middle east isn't on the list but China is?
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...is it true that the cell company Three allows unlimited data when roaming in the US? Has anyone tried using hundreds of gigs of data while traveling here?
Yes. I haven't tried "hundreds of gigs" but I've used Maps, email etc. freely and haven't incurred any charges. Only gotcha is that calling a US phone still counts as an international call from the UK.
I think there's a time limit on how many weeks you can use it for in one run, so there's no point trying the old "Hi dude... er, sorry, hello old chaps at Three I am and genuine lime... sorry... British person (I say, what ho, God Bless the Queen, poh-tay-to, al-you-min-y-um and all that) and can I get...
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Do your homework, your worldphone only works consistently on T-Moblie and AT&T networks in the USA.
Just buy a local SIM (Score:2)
I travel a lot and never use roaming. Most of my stuff comes over the network anyway so I just make sure I have plenty of data. Last time I visited the UK I bought a SIM from 3 for £20 from a machine which came with unlimited calls, text and data. What I didn't realise at the time was it would also work almost anywhere in the world. When I went over to Denmark it connected to 3-DK and worked fine there, Sweden, yep, USA it switched to T-mobile and then I ended up in NZ and it connected to 2degre
its a free! (Score:1)
I'd like to get that $10 flat free. Where do I go to pick it up?
Ouch that's expensive (Score:1)
Or just switch to Google Fi (Score:2)
way too expensive. (Score:2)
That's the kind of pricing that you should be paying. The cost of dealing with roamers for the companies are probably in the pennies per day. Those plans are almost 100% profit. The only reason why they get away with it is that "e
International plans (Score:1)
International plans are only useful if they let you receive calls from your domestic number for emergencies.
In almost any case I've seen, grabbing a cheap local SIM is much better. In Asia, you can usually buy one right at the airport (at a special short-term rate only available for tourists, even). It does require an unlocked phone but that's getting simpler these days as well.