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IMDb Is Shutting Down Its Long-Running, Popular Message Boards After 16 Years (polygon.com) 168

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Polygon: After 16 years, IMDb's message boards and the ability to privately message other users is shutting down, with many members of the community openly mourning the loss of the section. IMDb, which stands from the Internet Movie Database, is one of the world's biggest databases for film and television. According to the company, there is information on more than 4.1 million titles and 7.7 million personalities available on the site as of January 2017. The message board, which was introduced in 2001, reportedly remains one of the most used services on the website, but despite that, the company is getting ready to shut it down, citing a desire to foster a positive environment and serve its audience the best way it can. "After in-depth discussion and examination, we have concluded that IMDb's message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide," a statement on the site reads. "The decision to retire a long-standing feature was made only after careful consideration and was based on data and traffic. Because IMDb's message boards continue to be utilized by a small but passionate community of IMDb users, we announced our decision to disable our message boards on February 3, 2017 but will leave them open for two additional weeks so that users will have ample time to archive any message board content they'd like to keep for personal use. During this two-week transition period, which concludes on February 19, 2017, IMDb message board users can exchange contact information with any other board users they would like to remain in communication with (since once we shut down the IMDb message boards, users will no longer be able to send personal messages to one another)."
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IMDb Is Shutting Down Its Long-Running, Popular Message Boards After 16 Years

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  • Sad Day (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Sad day now that this message board is ending. I always enjoyed reading the comments about old movies, although I never posted.

    • by magarity ( 164372 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:44PM (#53799535)

      No, "passionate community" is the key. Likely it has completely devolved into people mindlessly screaming at each other that either Trump sucks or Trump rocks. It may even be so over the edge that he does both at the same time.

      • by shri ( 17709 )

        We try so hard on our communities to prevent this sort of behaviour - which usually spills over from places like Facebook and Reddit. Tough moderation then turns into complaints about freedom of speech. (Yes, I know your reply has been moderated as 'funny' - but this is so true! Civil online spaces are disappearing.)

        Anyways, this could be an opportunity to develop a new-ish community. Yep, I never give up on this shit despite everyone telling me that communities are dead, long live facebook / reddit. :(

        • Same old same old. I call it the usenet phenomenon because that's where I first noticed it. Any group that had been together for more than 3 years was extremely cliquish and derogatory. That happened later on with wikipedia and many of the other hangout areas. And it doesn't have anything to do with computers. It's a mean girls phenomenon that happens anyplace lots of conversations are going on and certain folks take charge. In economics, a similar phenomenon is called "regulatory capture." The only people
          • by shri ( 17709 )

            You're right. For me this has involved ejecting many regulars who take on an air of self importance - that the community would not survive without them. But guess what - it does and a regular ejection of a bully just makes things better for everyone and several more members rise - an a couple of them go down the route of ejection.

  • What all message boards need are ruthless moderators who re-write and/or delete posts that are stupid or trolling.

    Obviously that cannot scale well... for now. One can easily imagine a "ToneAI" that fixes post to be less trollish or flamish. Then maybe we can all have nice things again.

    • by taustin ( 171655 )

      I have never, not even once, seen a web forum that had enough traffic to need more than one mod that did not quickly devolve into the mods being the biggest asshole trolls, using their mod status to protect their favorites. Not once. Ever.

      I'm pretty certain I never will, either.

  • Corrected Title (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rsmith-mac ( 639075 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:30PM (#53799469)

    The story's title isn't quite accurate, so I've gone ahead and corrected it.

    "IMDb Is Shutting Down Its Long-Suffering, Vitriolic Message Boards After 16 Years "

    The contents of comments sections and message boards are getting worse year-over-year, and IMDB's are no different. Through no direct fault of their own, mind you, it's just that as the number of users on the Internet continues to expand, those users are living up to the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory [penny-arcade.com].

    • Re:Corrected Title (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Shane_Optima ( 4414539 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @08:18PM (#53800065) Journal
      The much less widely known/accept corollary to the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory is that online communication is the only place you can hope for something approaching real honesty or a real glimpse into how other people think. The lies and customs of 'RL' interaction are never more visible than when set alongside their internet equivalents. Truth and rationality may, in some distant future, win out as the default mode of human discourse. But if so, they will win out by the trial and error accumulations of a hundred million flame wars, not by forcing everyone to use their real names online or some other similarly horrendous scheme that asserts the superiority of traditional bullshit over internet bullshit.

      I think WotC got rid of their forums just a year ago as well. This is... a bad trend. Because none of these major social media sites that are replacing the old forums, not a single one, takes a strong free-speech stance. At one time Reddit might've qualified as an exception but, sadly, this is no longer the case [slashdot.org].
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Trolls don't bring honesty. They will say anything to get a reaction.

        In fact, people who are honest are usually the ones who get modded down and mobbed, because that's the ultimate form of trolling. Turning the system that is supposed to prevent trolling into the means of trolling.

  • Crapification (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:33PM (#53799487)

    That's half the usefulness of IMDB gone then, as the message boards were the perfect place to look for discussion of obscurities you noticed while watching something.

    This has the taste of IMDB being deliberately crapified, due to the financial incentives of being an advertiser of movies and tv shows - a place where open criticism is not welcome (unless buried somewhere at the bottom of the reviews).

    • by Anonymous Coward

      This has the taste of IMDB being deliberately crapified, due to the financial incentives of being an advertiser of movies and tv shows - a place where open criticism is not welcome (unless buried somewhere at the bottom of the reviews).

      +100

    • Now with these people going away, I'd kind of expect a new crowd-sourced database to emerge.
    • Re:Crapification (Score:5, Informative)

      by Rakarra ( 112805 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @07:12PM (#53799709)

      That's half the usefulness of IMDB gone then, as the message boards were the perfect place to look for discussion of obscurities you noticed while watching something.

      TV Tropes might work for that.

      • Maybe for 'hey, this movie plotline is like that other movie plotline' but not for 'Actor is actually 5' 4", despite them appearing the same size as Taller Actor in the movie.'
    • They're shooting themselves in the foot. I think they underestimate what a sense of community means to overall traffic. No message boards, no community, no loyalty to imdb as a site and that "small but passionate" userbase will eventually begin to coalesce somewhere else followed shortly by the general public.
  • The End of an Era (Score:5, Interesting)

    by NG Resonance ( 794484 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:37PM (#53799501)
    I have been reading the IMDB forums for about 15 years, and will greatly mourn their passing. I'd often head there after watching an older film, as users would have nearly always posted some interesting facts or retrospectives. The long-running thread about Blade Runner's impact on movies and culture at large was particularly fun.
    • by quenda ( 644621 )

      I have been reading the IMDB forums for about 15 years, ...

      Its a shame you newbies will never know how awesome the IMDB used to be.
      I think the rot started when they moved from Usenet to the WWW. Then came AOL and the unwashed masses.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      this is the only valuable comment for this article, yes fuck everybody's fight over trump, SJW or alt-right, you don't even know what are you talking about anyway

    • Yup. I usually enjoy the "100 things I learned about.." threads.
    • by Optic7 ( 688717 )

      I had also been reading them for at least over 10 years and yes, I agree completely with the sentiment. Where else can I go now after watching some obscure foreign film to discuss or read other people's discussions about that film. Very sad to hear this.

  • If it's not improving or generating more revenue, it gets cut. Nobody wants to just keep providing the same service they provided yesterday anymore.

  • we announced our decision to disable our message boards on February 3, 2017 but will leave them open for two additional weeks so that users will have ample time to archive any message board content they'd like to keep for personal use. During this two-week transition period, which concludes on February 19, 2017, IMDb message board users can exchange contact information with any other board users they would like to remain in communication Ample time? Two weeks doesn't seem like much time to wrap up and move
  • by ffkom ( 3519199 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:40PM (#53799519)
    Amazon might allow people to comment on goods they sell from 3rd-party manufacturers, but now that they are producers of movies themselves, they will certainly not like to see negative reviews of them on their own web page.
  • by GPS Pilot ( 3683 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:44PM (#53799539)

    IMDb's message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide,"

    So what if only a minority find it useful? Turning off functionality that works, and took a fair amount of resources to create, is a waste and a shame.

    You know how pedestrian crosswalk signals make a beeping sound for the benefit of the visually impaired? It's a very small minority that finds that useful. By IMDB's logic, that feature should be shut down.

    • False comparison. If there were a hundred idiots standing around the crosswalk making noise with their kazoos, then the signal would pretty much be useless for the blind, and could be turned off.
      That is how quite a number of discussion boards are today.
      I have not used the imdb message boards, but a quick sample of comments there unfortunately confirmed that most of it is negative noise. Little of value will be lost.
      • >"False comparison. If there were a hundred idiots standing around the crosswalk making noise with their kazoos, then the signal would pretty much be useless for the blind, and could be turned off."

        Yep, and for some of us, the stupid, repeating sound of those things is also annoying noise pollution (there are better ways to signal, like a single signal). What is great for some is often horrible for others.

      • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

        False comparison. If there were a hundred idiots standing around the crosswalk making noise with their kazoos, then the signal would pretty much be useless for the blind, and could be turned off.

        Don't know about kazoos, but I've noticed mockingbirds getting pretty good at imitating the cuckoo sounds from them. I'm starting to wonder if they're part of some vast animal conspiracy along with the cats to rid the world of humans once and for all, but maybe I'm just paranoid.

    • I personally find not hitting visually human beings wandering into intersections with my car very useful.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Unlike the beeper, the IMDB forums need significant resources to maintain (bandwidth, servers, moderation, security). Unlike the beeper, people won't be screwed without them.

  • The service might be popular, but if the hosting company is not making money from it somehow, they see no reason to keep it going. If they even tried to sell subscriptions or advertising, no one wanted to subscribe or not block the ads. Everything free eventually goes away.
  • by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:49PM (#53799563)

    There are exceptions. But the vast majority of the time when I clicked through to a message board, hoping to find some insightful discussions about the movie or TV show I just saw, the discussions were just kinda stupid.

    I think online communities build standards, early on /. managed to set a standard where most comments are relatively thoughtful and that seems to have persisted as the site grew. I don't think IMDB ever managed the same and the message boards have just become a bit of an eyesore.

    • by slacka ( 713188 )

      This was exactly the problem. Maybe 1 in 10 threads was something other than insulting one of the actors or some form of trolling. Many of the threads are just spam or totally unrelated to the movie. I don't see why these couldn't just be removed.

      These low quality are almost entirely by new accounts. It would have been much smarter for them to have some kind of moderation system than scrapping it all together. For example give mod rights to older accounts that have written reviews with good feedback. They s

      • by Cederic ( 9623 )

        Agree, although that's a lot of work for them.

        It has gone from "Explain that plot point to me" to "This film is racist!!!" (or sexist or homophobic or..) and "I can't believe people liked this" or "Why do people hate this?"

        Where can people that _like_ films go..?

    • Stupid for you, but useful for at least one other person. Even if its just their own entertainment.
  • Forums are dying (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dan East ( 318230 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:50PM (#53799569) Journal

    As a former sysadmin of a popular forum back in the late 90s, I can say that this form of social networking is definitely dying. Killed, as should be obvious, by the likes of Facebook. Basically the progression over time has been...

    Usenet (for those select few with internet access back in the day)
    Stand-alone BBS - the first real online social networking available to the public
    Networked BBSs / online services (AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, GEnie, etc)
    More general use of Usenet (around which time it became filled with spam and binaries, making it nearly unusable except for moderated groups)
    The advent of the WWW brought the HTML based discussion forum, which ruled (and is still very much applicable) for the greater part of 20 years.
    Hybrid, topic based discussion (Slashdot, reddit, etc)
    Facebook and its various constructs (celeb pages, groups, and the totally unorganized comment discussion that originates based off of random posts created or shared by users).

    The thing that concerns me in the Facebook era are the lack of organization, clear moderation (who is even in charge of which group?), searchability, etc, of anything on FB. Let me give you an example. If I want to work on my vehicle, I can search for the topic online, and find a discussion forum where owners of that vehicle discuss in great detail the problem I've encountered and how to repair it. That's not even possible with FB.

    Anyway, after all that semi-offtopic rambling, I'll say this is not a good thing in my opinion that IMDB is shutting down their forums, because there is no adequate replacement.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      > The thing that concerns me in the Facebook era are the lack of organization

      What concerns me is the exact opposite: one organization controls any discussion and flow of information. Facebook shapes what people see. They determine what is news and what isn't.

      The more things centralize on Facebook, the more power rests in their hands. Which as we currently see makes governments giddy at the prospect of control over information.

    • by Megane ( 129182 )
      I think part of the problem is a lower barrier to entry. From "have to be at one of a few dozen big universities" or "have to have a modem and be willing to tie up a phone line with it" to "mobile phone shitposting while waiting at the bus stop". The more effort it takes you to be able to post, the more you will care about what you post.
    • Also, forums have a lifespan....a forum will attract a crowd who will participate enthusiastically for 5 or 10 years, maybe a little longer, but then those people start to move on with their lives, die off (literally), lose interest, etc etc....and the forum declines in traffic and interest. I see this effect across a slew of forums I manage.

    • You missed Fidonet which was pretty popular prior to the internet really starting to take off, which is when usenet really took off. So things a little out of order there, but close enough. Fidonet still deserves mention.

    • I have never posted on social media sites but like to read comments so I can learn from diverse opinions. Left or right, insightful or silly, there is usually some net gain.
    • As a former sysadmin of a popular forum back in the late 90s, I can say that this form of social networking is definitely dying. Killed, as should be obvious, by the likes of Facebook. Basically the progression over time has been...

      Usenet (for those select few with internet access back in the day)
      Stand-alone BBS - the first real online social networking available to the public
      Networked BBSs / online services (AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, GEnie, etc)
      More general use of Usenet (around which time it became filled with spam and binaries, making it nearly unusable except for moderated groups)
      The advent of the WWW brought the HTML based discussion forum, which ruled (and is still very much applicable) for the greater part of 20 years.
      Hybrid, topic based discussion (Slashdot, reddit, etc)
      Facebook and its various constructs (celeb pages, groups, and the totally unorganized comment discussion that originates based off of random posts created or shared by users).

      The thing that concerns me in the Facebook era are the lack of organization, clear moderation (who is even in charge of which group?), searchability, etc, of anything on FB. Let me give you an example. If I want to work on my vehicle, I can search for the topic online, and find a discussion forum where owners of that vehicle discuss in great detail the problem I've encountered and how to repair it. That's not even possible with FB.

      Anyway, after all that semi-offtopic rambling, I'll say this is not a good thing in my opinion that IMDB is shutting down their forums, because there is no adequate replacement.

      Agree 100%. Usenet was good because the client would provide a consistent interface for all topics, while web forums change based on vendor.

      Regardless, an incredible amount of useful information is stored in these forms of communication. Message boards exist for almost any type of car, or technology, or hobby. The collective knowledge has solutions to any known problem with a given car, or device. In a way they can achieve what wikis attempt to, but with a lower bar of entry. Users know how to format posts

  • by Anonymous Coward

    This sucks because I often made posts in there calling out issues with shows and also when shows were "done" that I could then reference later showing how awesome I was at predicting their demise.

    The Joss Whedon guys must have actually read the forums because there have been a number of posts I made where they actually made changes to the show.

  • Seriously? WTF??? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MMC Monster ( 602931 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @07:01PM (#53799635)

    I liked the message boards a lot. They gave a bit of insight into the movies and characters you wouldn't get otherwise. Also, if you read a message board in a movie that came out a couple years ago you can see how the messages change from before the movie came out to afterwards.

    Yes, there are griefers, but that's just the Internet. If you can't handle it, go elsewhere. Or, if you are IMDB, close up the communication forums.

    • I'm sure what happened here is what seems to be happening on loads of other sites these days. Trolls and spam get worse every day, and at some point an exec or site owner does a cost/benefit analysis. What they inevitably see is that the vast majority of users on almost all sites never leave a comment, and the active commenters are generally a tiny fraction of the userbase. So the question inevitably comes up: "Why are we spending our time and money fighting trolls and spam just keep the forums going for
      • by Optic7 ( 688717 )

        I imagine that you're right about the cost/benefit analysis, but the problem for them is that for every user that posts, there are probably 50 that only read the message boards. I'm one of these users, having only posted about 4 or 5 times in over 10 years there while on the other hand reading them relatively frequently. I agree completely with the GP poster.

    • If you can't handle it, go elsewhere. Or, if you are IMDB, close up the communication forums.

      That IS IMDB going elsewhere. You are literally complaining about them doing what you are saying they ought to do. You are also mixing up "can't" handle it with "don't want" to handle it. Everyone who doesn't feel that putting up with an avalanche of shit on a daily basis is a worthwhile way to spend time goes elsewhere. All that leaves you is the avalanche of shit. What's the point in having one of those?

    • I noticed IMDB forums starting to turn into crap during Breaking Bad. Tons of people were jumping on and seriously discussing the show, but a lot of other people just logged in to crap all over everything.

      Then I guess about 1 1/2 years ago they changed things a bit - requiring either a credit card or a phone number to post - and I wasn't giving either of those things out so I stopped posting.

      I think the forums were manageable until they got too popular. I still sometimes hop over and read comments on thin

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03, 2017 @07:08PM (#53799677)

    I posted there rarely, but never trolled.

    If you watched a film and didn't understand part of the plot, found something unrealistic, or particularly enjoyed something, you could head to the IMDB forums and almost always find a discussion about what you wanted to know.

    Now that is gone. And it didn't have to happen. Pure corporate greed.

  • I must have spent too much time reading movie details, trivia, goofs, and background of various cast.
  • The reviews and the message boards were the best part of imdb. That and the parental advisory section are the only reasons i really go there.

    I wonder if they will keep the reviews part of it. If not, its a real shame. Many people put probably millions of collective hours into reviews and posts on there. To have it all simply deleted is a real waste of human effort, to future historians and to humanity at large.

    One can only guess that this is due to financial constraints, which is sad. I loved being able to

    • The message boards were the only reason I visited their site. While its true that trolls and SJW (pro and con) topics abound, there were also plenty of good information about the films in question. It seems to me that the real reason why they are shutting them down is because they aren't interested in the administrative overhead (dealing with complaints, etc.) to maintain them. Perhaps they are making enough money from the corporate side and paid subscriptions that they feel that they no longer need page

      • by swb ( 14022 )

        Only newer or very famous titles and people boards got heavy trolling and or crapflooding. It was annoying on GoT, but if you get out of that 10% popularity bubble the they dissolved if not disappeared completely.

        Most older films and people boards had little traffic and often had useful trivia or information about the actors -- where are they now, etc. Some films really had useful discussion on the topics.

        And the per-title/person board format meant you could post about a small-role actor from the 1940s or

  • This is apalling (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sandbagger ( 654585 ) on Friday February 03, 2017 @07:25PM (#53799803)

    I was literally just researching some films in the discussion boards. When you're looking up obscure films, the decade and a half of expertise that is buried in the comments and stories that people have — often by family members and friends of the cast and crew— are invaluable. Also useful are the tangential comments and links that take you from one title to another via the comments.

    It was often just good reading.

    Let's not be dramatic. This is not the burning of the library of Alexandria, but it's a unique resource and as someone said above, there's nothing close to a replacement in site. And if there was, there'd be no reason to go to it because it doesn't link from anything, or to anything.

    They could at least zip up the archives and post them to the torrents for posterity. On the basis of killing off the comments, in my estimation, they've cut out a huge reason for me to visit their site.

    • It doesn't matter if anyone visits the site or not. Amazon just uses the IMDB data for "XRay".

      Can't wait for the Amazon Usurper quite frankly. Their Sales portal is utter crap compared to even Target and Walmart.

      Even AliExpress is frequently easier to use than Amazon.
    • They could at least zip up the archives and post them to the torrents for posterity. On the basis of killing off the comments, in my estimation, they've cut out a huge reason for me to visit their site.

      Agree with this 100%. Definitely should leave the forums intact, with write permission turned off, for at least a year or two, then possibly an archive after that, that users can download. It would definitely be a shame if much useful information was needlessly deleted.

      Maybe someone can whip up a forum scraper and siphon off the entire forum into an archive before the 2 weeks are up.

      • +1

        It's really unfortunate that IMDb is closing their forums, but I can only imagine the statement author having a shit-eating grin while writing, "but will leave them open for two additional weeks so that users will have ample time to archive any message board content they'd like to keep for personal use". I don't know what sadness has befell the IMDb forums in the past year, but any time I watched an enjoyable movie, I'd scramble to the message boards and find interesting information, asides, etc.

        I'm
    • They could at least zip up the archives and post them to the torrents for posterity.

      Agreed. But this seems to be the common pattern in forums closing down these days: just delete it all. Frankly, aside from a couple of sites I visit frequently though, the ONLY time I read forums on other sites is when they're already inactive threads... But discussions are sometimes fascinating and sometimes informative or helpful. It seems those who make decisions to close down forums just want to "wash their hands" of the whole thing, but it points out the fragility of data in the information age. In

    • I was literally just researching some films in the discussion boards. When you're looking up obscure films, the decade and a half of expertise that is buried in the comments and stories that people have — often by family members and friends of the cast and crew— are invaluable.
      ::
      ::
      Let's not be dramatic. This is not the burning of the library of Alexandria, but it's a unique resource and as someone said above, there's nothing close to a replacement in site. And if there was, there'd be no reason to go to it because it doesn't link from anything, or to anything.

      They could at least zip up the archives and post them to the torrents for posterity. On the basis of killing off the comments, in my estimation, they've cut out a huge reason for me to visit their site.

      Absolutely agreed. I couldn't have put it better. This is terrible news. Yeah, sure there was quite a bit of crap there (with some films, a LOT of crap), but I've learnt some real gems from those forum threads. Funnily enough I've been meaning to finally sign up to them lately, as I've been watching a lot more films recently. Oh well...

      I do worry just how much info will be lost though.

    • by Mandrel ( 765308 )

      They could at least zip up the archives and post them to the torrents for posterity.

      IMDB could do that, because according to their Boards Terms and Conditions [imdb.com] they own all submissions. Not an exclusive or non-exclusive licence — exclusively own:

      You agree that any materials, including but not limited to questions, comments, suggestions, ideas, plans, notes, drawings, original or creative materials or other information, provided by you in the form of e-mail or submissions to IMDb are non-confidential and shall become the sole property of IMDb.

  • Can't say most of the comments were useful.

    In the old days before the USE*NET flame wars, we have film message boards where people posted useful reviews and film commentary, but ever since then, film criticism has become less and less useful.

    I don't even bother reading the comments anymore, if it isn't one posted by professional reviewers, or by fellow Lifetime members of film societies.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    One has to add to this mix... the lawsuit brought against IMDB about their practice of publishing the real age of actors. Once you silence the masses you have completed the first step in information "management".

    Peace out.

  • "Worst movie I've seen in my life"

    "You just didn't understand it"

    "Most boring movie ever made"

    etc., etc....

    However, in between, there were a lot of great postings about soundtracks, directors, subplots, scenes, that only true fans that had seen the film several times would have known or noticed. I'll miss these postings. Without them, I have no reason to use IMDB.

  • Office Space had a long message board thread in which people shared their depressing work experiences, with unlikable coworkers and terrible bosses, and it was really funny, but it's been deleted. It's the only thing I would have missed, but since it's already gone, who cares?
  • Am I the only one who THAT is the reason you went to IMDB?

    The message boards is where you could find people discussing when the next season of a show was going to premier, talk about how the filming of an upcoming movie is going and if it is delayed, discussion about a recent episode, talk about a plot, alternative theories on what something in the plot meant, news about long lost actors/actresses, tidbits about a show/movie etc..

    Other than looking up the list of actors which you can just do on Wikipedia, t

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