Microsoft Ends Support For Windows Vista; Begins To Roll Out Windows 10 Creators Update 103
On Tuesday, Microsoft began the roll out of Windows 10 Creators Update, the latest update of the company's desktop operating system. Incidentally, today is also the day Windows Vista, a decade-old OS as well as some parts of Office 2007 hit end of life. Earlier this month we asked Slashdot readers if they would be upgrading their computers to Windows 10 Creators Update. Many people answered with a resounding no.
Do I have a choice? (Score:5, Insightful)
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FWIW, they did let you put off the
Switch from Windows 10 to what on a subnotebook? (Score:2)
stand up, have a spine. don't use windows 10.
What is there other than Windows 10, macOS, and Chrome OS? Laptops warranted to run an operating system other than these three aren't shown in showrooms near me. Chromebooks with Crouton have a habit of begging to be wiped (search for "OS verification is OFF"), and System76 currently doesn't offer any laptops smaller than 14 inches. Does Apple deserve a monopoly on compact laptops that run something other than a web browser?
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Don't let the door hit your fat ass (a statistically likely assumption) on your way out.
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but if you're not qualified to slap a copy of Mint on some generic hardware
Last I checked, Debian and its downstream projects, such as Ubuntu and Mint, have historically had serious problems running on Bay Trail kit, with Bluetooth, audio, camera wireless, suspend, and more broken or missing. It's improved over several years, but a lot is still broken on a T100TA [jfwhome.com].
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Posting from a Dell XPS 13 (a chassis smaller than most 13" machines because of their tiny-bezel screens) that's run Lubuntu flawlessly since the day I got it.
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stand up, have a spine. don't use windows 10.
I continually ask why people put up with all this nonsense. Forced upgrades, can't modify the host file, spyware and adware baked in, Microsoft gets to decide if a rollback is allowed and for how long a period of time ... you just about completely give over control of your computer and your data, and you have to fight a continual uphill battle to wrestle back your seemingly obvious right to do with your computer any legal thing you wish, keep your private data private, and so on.
Is Windows 10 so great that
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I'm with you...We're going to have to pass legislation on a national level to rein in Microsoft (and other greedy corporations) autocratic greed and forced customer behavior.
When has ANY product before this be forced on people by the vendor? (I understand federal needs for things like new features in automobiles. However, I do not accept that GM, or any other vehicle manufacturer, has the right to tell me that THEY can dictate to me what tires I must buy, or when, specifically, I must surrender my vehicle
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>> Win 10 keeps installing "updated" video drivers which don't work on my laptop.
They've published a procedure to fix that permanently so you don't have to keep fighting it.
https://support.microsoft.com/... [microsoft.com]
Tldr; device manager, find the device, right-click >> Properties >> Driver Tab >> Rollback Driver.
That should block future updates to that driver.
Related topic: can you send a nastygram to your video card manufacturer and ask them not to publish bad drivers to Windows Update? MS i
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I don't let me smartphone update without first reviewing and testing the updates, why would I do that to my desktop[s]?
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You let your smartphone update. Why not your desktop?
I guess the difference is that major updates to Windows tend to break more functionality on which a business relies than updates to a smartphone operating system.
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If you want to game - Windows
If you want to use a similar system to what you have at work - Windows
If you want access to the largest library of usable software - Windows
If your a hipster or an artist you will probably go for a Mac
Sorry Linux guys but we nerds are really the only ones who can use it on the desktop.
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If the software you want to use runs on Windows... you can try Wine.
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If the software you want to use runs on Windows... you can try Wine.
And if the opensource/free version of Wine won't run your Windows application, try the commercial/VERY well supported version of Wine, called CrossOverOffice.. It costs $$$ but since your Linux OS was free, why not spend a few bux to avoid the need for Windows. CrossOverOffice even runs MSOffice (older versions I believe) and a LARGE number of Windows games...
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This problem goes way beyond Windows.
Your post is full of so many errors and logical fallacies, I barely have the time to scratch the surface.
1) Windows is the most popular OS.
This is nitpicking, but Windows is the most prevalent *desktop* operating system. Linux is the most popular operating system by far, with Android alone recently eclipsing Windows on the user-facing front.
2) But even today, after so many years, it's nowhere near as user-friendly as Windows or macOS are.
Everyone for whom I have installed Kubuntu has commented on how unexp
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Indeed - it's a server issue since systemd has a desktop focus.
Pulseaudio was crap for years (which is why it keeps coming up as an example) but then a new bunch of developers took it over.
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I somehow suspect that Windows won't exactly give me the option to say 'no' to this update.
I have a question: Why would you? It's quite clear now that these Windows "updates" are nothing more than bundled security fixed with minor app updates. If anything this update will reduce the amount of telemetry collected if you already run an unadultered version of Windows 10.
Frankly I have yet to find a single reason someone with Windows 10 would not want the Creators update. I say this ironically as I just disabled windows update as I'm on a shit slow internet connection and my youtubing takes priority
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I somehow suspect that Windows won't exactly give me the option to say 'no' to this update.
I believe to get it you first have to log into an account with administrative perms so you can be prompted about something. So if you stick to a standard user account m you'll never be upgraded.
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I somehow suspect that Windows won't exactly give me the option to say 'no' to this update.
That's right, going forward they're trying to keep everybody up to date. It's much easier to address security and stability issues when the operating system is the same on all the systems, especially given the millions of different possible hardware configurations.
But this is hardly a new thing, my Macs don't forcibly update but they certainly constantly ping me to tell me I should install and prompt to allow auto updates because keeping the OS up to date is generally a good thing. If you consider it an afr
XP 4 Ever (Score:1)
I'll use XP till it won't run anymore. M$ can go stuff it.
Can the update work on a Dell system? (Score:3)
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I know my Dell has a few partitions that I'd like to remove, but don't know if that would be bad.
That's what I thought too. When I dropped in a new SSD and reinstalled Windows, the exact same partitions from the old SSD got created again.
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Except that W10 trashed the partitions on one of my customers' machines. HP laptop, and I could see the recovery partition when viewed in a cradle via gparted, but the computer absolutely could not access that partition. Had to stump up for recovery discs (cheap, but a long time coming from HP) to get it back to out-of-box condition.
W10 is an abomination. I'll stick to W7 until something better comes along.
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I stand by my previous statement.
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I actually had similar issues I was just chalking up to my shitty satellite connectivity but that definitely gives me something to mull over.
As I told my friend, a clean install is a good reason to buy a new hard drive or SSD.
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5 dells in my office of 12 people havn't had a single issue.
If everyone had a Dell, over half had issues installing the Anniversary update?
Vista support ... (Score:2)
... ended the day it was born.
Not as bad as ME, but a fucking bitch for the workplace.
The Creators update BSODs during installation (Score:2)
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Do you have an NVIDIA GPU on the 381.65 drivers? NVIDIA's latest Creators Update drivers can cause BSOD issues, especially with laptops. On my laptop, installing the drivers and rebooting causes Windows to never make it to the login screen. I have to system restore back to an earlier version.
I would try rolling back drivers first before attempting to upgrade.
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One of my BSOD errors was "WHEA UNCORRECTABLE ERROR", which according to Microsoft is hardware related. Unfortunately their "solution" for this error is do a windows update or rollback to a previous version of Windows. T
Just installed it (Score:3)
So far, doing good. I installed by mounting the iso and just upgrading.
Some notable changes:
Um yes you will (Score:2)
Old Vista laptop or PC to ZFS HOWTO (Score:4)
https://freedompenguin.com/art... [freedompenguin.com]
--If you have an old Vista rig that has a 64-bit CPU, at least 1-2GB RAM and would like to make it more useful... Turn it into a ZFS+Samba file server
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Why would I want to use a tiny and slow laptop drive for ZFS storage?
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It still runs, it just can't cache as much - do something practical instead of whining about "research".
I've got a 32bit machine with 2GB of memory and 24 IDE disks to use as a test box to teach people about ZFS. It's as quick as it ever was with hardware RAID. It's nice to have something like that so people can see for themselves how to get back from fairly nasty failures and at what point you can't get back.
Will someone make a new service pack? (Score:2)
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dont worry it will be.
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Which is why the ONLY Windows 10 install I run is a Virtualbox VM with the Linux host running a firewall that blocks ALL the MS sites. If/when *I* decide to update the VM, the firewall on the Linux host is temporarily stopped, then restarted afterwards.. Just had to say it.. FUCK YOU MS!!
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Won't upgrade unless it's forced on me.
Can they do that now?
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Won't upgrade unless it's forced on me.
Can they do that now?
Not sure if asking a rhetorical question, or truly doesn't know...
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