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GoDaddy Expels Neo-Nazi Site Over Article On Charlottesville Victim ( 936

Reader Big Hairy Ian writes: Web hosting company GoDaddy has given a US neo-Nazi site 24 hours to find another provider after it disparaged a woman who died in protests in Virginia. The Daily Stormer published a piece denigrating Heather Heyer, who was killed on Saturday after a car rammed into a crowd protesting at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville. GoDaddy had faced calls to remove the white supremacist site as a result. The web host said the Daily Stormer had violated its terms of service. "We informed the Daily Stormer that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another provider, as they have violated our terms of service," GoDaddy said in a statement on Twitter. Previously, some web users had called on GoDaddy to remove the site -- including women's rights campaigner Amy Siskind. Violence broke out in Charlottesville, Virginia, after white supremacists organised a controversial far-right march called "Unite the Right".
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GoDaddy Expels Neo-Nazi Site Over Article On Charlottesville Victim

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  • by Kierthos ( 225954 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @10:45AM (#55007713) Homepage

    This isn't a First Amendment issue.

    GoDaddy has the right to toss anyone off of their service for violating their Terms of Service.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 14, 2017 @10:55AM (#55007809)

      Agreed. GoDaddy is a private corporation. They're not bound by the 1st Ammendment.

      However, GoDaddy is full of crap. They claim that the web site violated their TOS by inciting violence, but the only thing that this clown posted there was calling the victim fat, childless, and useless. He was obviously a jerk-off, but he was not calling for violence.

      GoDaddy was simply cowed by the SJWs, that's all. They aren't the first, they won't be the last, and this is simply a useful information to know: GoDaddy can be pressured and harassed into shutting down an unpopular web site that they host. Someone who believes that their content maybe controversial and unpopular, and may be targeted by left-wing rent-a-mobs, should not host it on GoDaddy.

    • by aepervius ( 535155 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:00AM (#55007883)
      I have long said that, in the west, the biggest censorship issue is private company not wanting certain speec and thuis relegating offline where it can die or spread the rot unbeknown. I feel split on the issue , my anti nazi side feels happy that the daily stormer get dinged, but my anti censorship side see the clear problem here.
      • by Gilgaron ( 575091 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:11AM (#55008025)
        It is an interesting dilemma, but it is 'solving' the problem with market forces instead of laws, which is an interesting phenomena. Before the internet it would probably have taken more effort to organize enough people to even figure out who owned the printing presses used to print [objectionable material] let alone organize enough people to form a worrisome boycott thereof. Extra legal mob rule can have its own issues, of course, but this all seems like a new level of organization compared to what could've been accomplished a scant 20 years ago.
  • by mvdwege ( 243851 ) <> on Monday August 14, 2017 @10:49AM (#55007751) Homepage Journal

    after white supremacists organised a controversial far-right march called "Unite the Right".

    How about being honest: neo-Nazi's holding a Nazi rally.

    • So those guys displaying swastikas, giving Nazi salutes, chanting "blood and soil", one wearing a t-shirt that said "Nazi" on it... Those guys weren't Nazis?

      It wasn't a small group or one or two people, it was large numbers of them and the others there did nothing to stop it, didn't ask them to leave and didn't leave themselves when the chanting started.

      It was organised by nationalists, including the ex-Grand Wizard of the KKK. But those are two sides of the same coin.

      No need to be pedantic about the exact terminology. You had Nazis marching in your streets, not even bothering to cover their faces any more.

      • by Mashiki ( 184564 ) <> on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:54AM (#55008609) Homepage

        So those guys displaying swastikas, giving Nazi salutes, chanting "blood and soil", one wearing a t-shirt that said "Nazi" on it... Those guys weren't Nazis?

        Well that's a good question now isn't it? Because the person who put this thing together(UTR) goes by the name of Jason Kessler. Who right up until November 2016, was an avowed leftist, democrat supporter, proud obama supporter, and so on. We'll use the SLPC's own database on that. [] And he suddenly established a new organization called "Unity & Security For America" in January of 2017. Now one can't forget either that he was working for CNN at one point. []

        Now you can ask what does this have to do with anything. Well it's starting to smell a lot like "bird dogging" something that democrats did several times during the RNC primaries, and during the 2016 presidential race. This is right out of the playbooks of Scott Foval and Bob Creamer, who were pushed out of the DNC when it came to light that they had been paying protesters to be violent at rallies. The most famous case of this was the near-riot in Chicago.

        Now go read these two articles here [] and this article here. [] Then ask yourself why this organization's event(UTR) was announced on the facebook page of the Traditionalist Workers Party. Sounds very right-wing to me, doesn't it comrade. That's the same organization with ties to Yvette Felarca(of By Any Means Necessary or BAMN fame), who was arrested in relation to starting a California. I'll let you guess which one.

        And now, we go off to the races. I'll say, there's a chance, a possibility that a devout democrat that deep could flip and support Trump. I've met them, the other stuff just doesn't seem to match up on the other hand. Especially the announcements.

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      after white supremacists organised a controversial far-right march called "Unite the Right".

      How about being honest: neo-Nazi's holding a Nazi rally.

      Glad to see I wasn't the only one that thought of mid 1930s Germany when they saw pictures of hundreds of young men marching around in (citronella tiki) torches.

      As a side note, they could at least have put in the effort to make real torches. All you need is a stick, a rag, gasoline/kerosene, and some wire. Using the tiki torches takes them from intimidating (which I am sure they were going for) to comical. Maybe they were worried about bugs during the rally?

      • by Dr. Evil ( 3501 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:20AM (#55008153)

        "As a side note, they could at least have put in the effort to make real torches. All you need is a stick, a rag, gasoline/kerosene, and some wire."

        And these are the guys complaining about manufacturing jobs.

        • by penandpaper ( 2463226 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @12:49PM (#55009171) Journal

          They also complain about anti white rhetoric that is fashionable and accepted today.

          There is a video of them marching chanting "You will not replace us." while the other side chanted "anti-white". You get cheers when people state the fact that the US will be majority non white. When you have politicians like Sally Brown saying her job is to shut white people down. When you have Twitter allow calls for white genocide. It's easy to see why there are so many white supremacists coming out of the wood work. Because it's accepted to be racist against white and it looks coordinated from politicians, media, and activists.

          I honestly don't give a shit but the hypocrisy is palpable. All forms of hatred should not be encouraged.

  • Can godaddy get sued discrimination / censorship?

    Now what if they banned ?

    Or banned an anti H1B website ?

    • There is no law requiring corporations to provide free speech to their customers. Anti-censorship laws apply to the government, not companies.

      • what about discrimination laws?

        Let's say EA does not like an website talking about poor working conditions??

        Or say jay's hosting cuts off a site talking about how bad that 80 hour work weeks are at jay's hosting!

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by Chysn ( 898420 )

          > what about discrimination laws?

          To which nazi-protection law are you referring? I'm unaware of it.

          Before you say "First Amendment," I'll point out that that response would make you an idiot.

        • by JohnFen ( 1641097 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:22AM (#55008179)

          what about discrimination laws?

          What about them?

          All businesses are free to discriminate against people for any reason whatsoever, unless the reason is on the short list of protected classes (age, gender, religion, etc.)

          A business can refuse you service just because they don't like the clothes you wear, the car you drive, your hair color, or even just because they're in a bad mood.

  • by Gilgaron ( 575091 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @10:53AM (#55007791) [] I was a child when I first saw this movie and the Nazis seemed like a surreal element to me at the time, why would there be Nazis here in America when we had a big ol' war to defeat them? It seemed even sillier than the guys with rebel flags painted on their barn roof here above the Mason Dixon line.
    • Re:Blues Bros (Score:4, Insightful)

      by jeff4747 ( 256583 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @12:59PM (#55009297)

      There have always been Nazis or Nazi-like groups in the US. One of the reasons it took so long for us to directly enter WWII was the large quantity of Nazi sympathizers in the US.

      It's an attractive worldview for some of the downtrodden, because it makes your crappy life the fault of other people and grants you permission to hate and attack those other people. For those of not-modest means, it can be the justification for why you are so well off, and again grants you permission to hate.

  • by hsthompson69 ( 1674722 ) on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:36AM (#55008391)

    ...every bit of content they are part of serving.

    This kind of short-term virtue signaling on the part of a corporation is going to have long-term consequences, when people use this precedent to make them responsible for every shitlord post ever made on anything they're connected to.

    Next thing you know, they'll be coming after GoDaddy for comments on articles, and naughty memes.

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