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Facebook Has Mapped the Entire Human Population of Earth (cnbc.com) 160

Facebook doesn't only know what its 2 billion users "Like." It now knows where 7.5 billion humans live, everywhere on earth, to within 15 feet. From a report: The company has created a data map of the planet's entire human population by combining government census numbers with information it's obtained from space satellites, according to Janna Lewis, Facebook's head of strategic innovation partnerships and sourcing. The mapping technology, which Facebook says it developed itself, can pinpoint any man-made structures in any country on earth to a resolution of five meters. Facebook is using the data to understand the precise distribution of humans around the planet.
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Facebook Has Mapped the Entire Human Population of Earth

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  • by sjbe ( 173966 ) on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:02PM (#55123113)

    Just when I think Facebook can't be more creepy and intrusive they manage to surprise me.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Just when I think Facebook can't be more creepy and intrusive they manage to surprise me.

      Just wait until they introduce implantable RFID chips in some manner palatable to the common idiot.

      • by slick7 ( 1703596 )
        So, you can be served up on a platter for someone(thing) higher up on the food chain than you.
        • Facebook used satellite-based data

          always carry umbrella shaped like piece of rock, check

          and government census information

          never co-operate with the authorities, check

          to map the Earth's entire human population. The data set has a resolution of five meters and knows where man-made structures are everywhere on the planet.

          live in cave, check

      • Just wait until they introduce implantable RFID chips in some manner palatable to the common idiot.

        Hey, if it gets me free games, sign me up!

      • I just had a colonoscopy, in which I agreed in advance, in case there was a medical necessity to implant devices, which I thought a little creepy.

        You're saying I should have looked to see WHOSE devices?

      • by ebvwfbw ( 864834 )

        Sure. Just say you're a Nazi or Racist if you don't get the chip. That's all you have to do to make so much of the world do anything they don't want to do. Yea, rape, pillage, screw us big time but don't call us a racist. Anything but that. Looking at you Merkel, Obama, Macron, May, etc.

    • by Headw1nd ( 829599 ) on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:15PM (#55123239)
      This is honestly next-level supervillain shit. I'm impressed.
      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Few years ago they did a similar thing as an academic super computing exercise. They could map an area of a size of California in minutes, if I recall correctly. Take a pair of oil tankers and a satellite, put a super computer in one of them and an automatic cruise missile launcher in the other. Destroy all humans from any California sized part of the world. "Profit".

      • Running for President yet ???

        You should be...

    • This means they know where their advertising coverage is good, and where it is bad. This lets them target the under-monetized regions. This also lets them know where their competition is gaining ground so they can crush them, but without hurting their profitability everywhere else.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:29PM (#55123381)

      I signed up for Facebook very recently at the persistent urging of a group of friends. I was moving away and so, after years of intentionally avoiding Facebook due to privacy concerns, gave in and signed up so that I could keep in touch. I figured that as long as I was careful (fake birth date, restricting who could view my page, posting minimal personal information, not logging in with my primary computer, ect.) then they wouldn't be able to track me too much.

      Creepy describes what I got indeed. Before even making any friend requests or even viewing anyone else's page, Facebook already had a large number of friend suggestions already prepared. Some of which were recent people I saw regularly, which made some sense, but some where people I had only met a few times years ago. Facebook tracks you, whether or not you have an account. I don't know all the ways they track you, but I assume the phone app is a major one. As long as people running the app have your name & number in their phone, Facebook starts to build a profile based on the secondary data they gather, even if you are security and privacy minded in your own actions. There really should be laws against gathering data on people who never agreed to be part of your network.

      Still not entirely certain if I made the right decision to finally, after so many years, sign up. But I do not like or trust Facebook. The concept is good, I like that part of it, but there really does need to be stronger regulations concerning tracking and privacy.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        They know your real birth date, probably your SSN too, where you grew up, all of your friends you've ever had and even your relatives you never knew you had.

        You didn't make the right decision, but they already knew all of this about you without you ever signing up, you just validated their information regardless of you providing them false info.

        • That's really scary, because if any of the "bad guys" ever hack into facebook and get their hands on that information . . . . wait . . . . facebook IS the "bad guys".

          Imagine a time where the world is run by a handful of large corporations. We're there. Even governments can't control Google, Amazon, facebook, etc..
      • I wonder if the EU will do the right thing and extend its right to be forgotten [wikipedia.org] proposals to allow you to demand that facebook, et al, remove all of that information about you? The other thing that might be fun is doing a subject access request [ico.org.uk] and have facebook tell you everything that they know about you.

      • Of course they've been tracking you before you signed up. They're a branch of the FBI afterall.

        What? You didn't really believe the FBI still drives around in black windowless vans with "Flowers by Irene" painted on the sides did you? Its so much more efficient for them to use your friends and electronics to spy on you than all that old tech.

      • by dddux ( 3656447 )
        I can tell you how. X+Y=XY In other words, you've been mentioned. And yes, that is creepy. :/
    • someone has too much time on their hands. mark...get a life with your wife and enjoy it dude. i am so glad i do not use facebook.
      • The Zuck is going to run for President in 2020 as an Independent.

        It's going to assure a 2020 victory for either Trump or Pence.

        In Early 2021 Facebook will be a smoking hole in the ground because the Antifa-Fashionists will be driven to an uncontainable rage.

    • by slick7 ( 1703596 )
      Yeah, especially when you don't have a f*c*book account.
    • Just when I think Facebook can't be more creepy and intrusive they manage to surprise me.

      The really fucked up part is they won't lose a single customer over it.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      The headline is a bit misleading. The editorializing even more so:
      "It now knows where 7.5 billion humans live, everywhere on earth, to within 15 feet. "

      Satellite data with 3m granularity has been around for some time now and that had nothing to do with Facebook. All Facebook did was to combine that data with census data and its own data.

    • Just when I think Facebook can't be more creepy and intrusive they manage to surprise me.

      Next step: declare all the mapped people to be citizens of the seasteaded Republic of Zuckerbergia. Muahahahahahaha!

    • all in the name of science
  • by Anonymous Coward

    They really haven't.

    • by Anonymous Coward
      I'm guessing it doesn't have good data on North Korea.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      I, too, have a very difficult time believing that they have accurate data about all of the African, Afghani and Middle Eastern illegal aliens that have been essentially invading Europe the past 3 or 4 years. Many of these people have no record of existence in their home nations. If they do have some sort of identification, they try to destroy it. Even European authorities find it exceedingly difficult to figure out who the hell these invaders actually are.

      Then there are all of the babies who were born well

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Even in North Korea? That just smacks to me that they have CIA funding. The CIA used to do the Worldbook fact thing, Now all they have is Facebook.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:14PM (#55123229)

    Even if you never signed up. Even if you block their IP ranges. You cannot escape. People wave phones around, take photos, immediately upload them to Facebook. Facebook performs biometric analysis on everyone in the photo, even non-Facebook users, for "shadow profiles".

    What's that? You think you turned away in time? Oh, sorry:

    Since then, Facebook has continued to deepen and enrich its facial recognition technologies. An algorithm from the company’s artificial intelligence research group managed the seemingly impossible task of recognizing people 83% of the time even when their faces were not visible. [privateint...access.com]

    Unless you are a hermit who never leaves his cave and has no friends, you ARE in Facebook's database, whether you signed up or not. Your image has been recorded, your face has been associated with your identity and your home address and thus forth. Unless you are among the few who block FB IP ranges, also associated with your internet usage when not on FB itself.

    You cannot escape this monster. You can try, but your friends and family are agents of it now too.

  • Don't panic (Score:5, Funny)

    by fluffernutter ( 1411889 ) on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:16PM (#55123249)
    Now now, let's not all panic. Perhaps Facebook intends to do only good things with all this information!
    • Now now, let's not all panic. Perhaps Facebook intends to do only good things with all this information!

      Unlikely, only Google does no evil.

    • by slick7 ( 1703596 )
      Says Stavros Bloefeld.
    • Where is my funny but absolutely horrifying and true option? Really find myself needing that mod option more and more lately.
    • Perhaps Facebook intends to do only good things with all this information!

      I'm sure that bail bond agencies ("Bounty Hunters") and loan collection outfits will pay top dollar for this valuable information service.

      Maybe you are very good about going into hiding, and not giving away where you are. But maybe your friends and family are unintentionally not so careful.

      An expensive Facebook report of your friends and family might indicate where you are.

      • by mikael ( 484 )

        Try going into London just to visit a conference event. No sooner than I'm off the train than tourists are going clicky-clicky with all their cameras. Everything - each other getting off the train, the historic clocks, the other trains, the platform. That's one set of cameras. Going through the crowns waiting for trains? More pictures taken. Walking past street corners? Selfie-stick time. Sit inside a sandwich shop? Someone's got to take a picture of that as well.

        The freaky thing was that I never entered or

  • BS (Score:4, Insightful)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:16PM (#55123251) Homepage Journal
    Total BS. But it makes a good story.
  • "Now find them. Find them all- the humans. Kill them."
  • Now all they need is a few billion robot drones. Or a satellite laser system.

    Maybe they could sell the information to the appropriate governments looking for some people.

    • by trg83 ( 555416 )
      I pity you if you believe they haven't already sold such information. There are clear connections between Facebook and the CIA.
  • by geekmux ( 1040042 ) on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:21PM (#55123313)

    (US Citizen) "Hey guys, check this out. I combined information and I know where every single human on the planet is."

    (US Government) "Seize the terrorists assets immediately and throw him in prison indefinitely."

    [Meanwhile, over in the land of Too Valuable To Fail...]

    (Facebook) "Hey guys, check this out. We combined information and we know where every single human on the planet is."

    (US Government) "Oh wow, hey cool. Mind if we get a piece of that? Sweet, thx."

  • by __aaclcg7560 ( 824291 ) on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:26PM (#55123343)
    According to "Chaos Monkeys: Obscene Fortune and Random Failure in Silicon Valley" [amzn.to] by Antonio Garcia Martinez, Facebook only has 2.5B+ people to convert into users. User growth stalls out after that as the few billion people who aren't users live in areas too remote for Internet access. Facebook will have to find new ways to grow that doesn't rely on adding new users in the future.
    • You can still buy that book at abe.com [abebooks.com] for $7.86 including shipping.

      Don't click on creimier's referral link.

    • According to "Chaos Monkeys: Obscene Fortune and Random Failure in Silicon Valley" [amzn.to] by Antonio Garcia Martinez, Facebook only has 2.5B+ people to convert into users. User growth stalls out after that as the few billion people who aren't users live in areas too remote for Internet access. Facebook will have to find new ways to grow that doesn't rely on adding new users in the future.

      Facebook will need to pioneer galactic enrollment net. Ping times will suck for a while. Like 200 years for that hot Orion chick to click like.

    • by careysub ( 976506 ) on Friday September 01, 2017 @04:39PM (#55125685)

      According to "Chaos Monkeys: Obscene Fortune and Random Failure in Silicon Valley" [amzn.to] by Antonio Garcia Martinez, Facebook only has 2.5B+ people to convert into users. User growth stalls out after that as the few billion people who aren't users live in areas too remote for Internet access. Facebook will have to find new ways to grow that doesn't rely on adding new users in the future.

      Or (actually "and") they could take it upon themselves to push Internet out to those remaining billions. Something like this.

      If you read the Wired article you will see that this mapping project is part of this 'universal Internet' access plan. And you will also see that 'universal access' means just having an Internet connection. It is not a net-neutral ISP connection. It is a "Facebook selected set of services" connection. They get on because Facebook says "yes". If there is any money to made now, or in the future, it will be Facebook's.

      According to Zuckerberg this is the epitome of "net neutrality" since the most discriminatory thing is not to have Internet, that, and the fact that he is permitting a few hundred other services on the connection compensates for the fact that he has complete control over that connection.

  • [sigh]Creepy.[/sigh] I think privacy has been over for some time in all our heads and gut feelings. But this is 100% documented proof now. Yikes.

  • can pinpoint any man-made structures in any country on earth to a resolution of five meters. Facebook is using the data to understand the precise distribution of humans around the planet.

    Translation: stalk.

  • that's got to be a bitch to fold.
  • Pinpoint this one finger salute, Facebook.
    • Pinpoint this one finger salute, Facebook.

      TFS said this . . .

      The mapping technology, which Facebook says it developed itself, can pinpoint any man-made structures in any country on earth to a resolution of five meters.

      . . . so you'll need to build a big one finger salute statue on your front lawn . . . big enough to be picked up by Facebook's satellites.

      Just remember to tell the neighbors that it is not directed at them, but at Facebook.

      • I see I have found one of the lucky 10,000 today [xkcd.com] who has never heard of drawing in a lawn with fertilizer. Get one area to be greener and thicker than the rest, draw what ever you like. In high school we all ways did something obscene on the football field for homecoming because our school sucked and we didn't care. Put the fertilizer down Shawshank Redemption style during gym class.
  • Until around 2 years ago, some IP geo-locations tools were missing my actual location by over 900 km. Even nowadays, they rarely get my town and associate my network with neighbour cities up to 100 km away. My ISP is the biggest provider in Spain and I have a pretty standard dynamic-IP package. I don't use VPNs, proxies or similar approaches other than sporadically.

    During the last quite a few months, I have been sharing a lot of information about myself online. I have written many posts about different iss
    • If your ISP uses the same DHCP pool for a wide area, that will happen. Of course, large companies might pay for data from other tracking sites where you have provided that info (Facebook, Google, etc). But by IP address alone, it's unlikely.

      • But by IP address alone, it's unlikely.

        This was part of my point: abstract statements sounding like implying much more than what is really in there. Additionally and even in case that they could accurately track my location in a given moment, having a system automatically managing the information of millions of people and adequately putting together/regularly updating all that, actually having a proper understanding about most of these people is quite improbable. In summary, the title "Facebook Has Mapped the Entire Human Population of Earth" do

        • I think you underestimate how many people use Facebook on a mobile device with full access to location services - and in 3rd-world countries there are few desktop web site users anyway. They would have a pretty accurate mapping, even if it's not 1:1 per every human.

          • I think you underestimate how many people use Facebook on a mobile device with full access to location services - and in 3rd-world countries there are few desktop web site users anyway. They would have a pretty accurate mapping, even if it's not 1:1 per every human.

            I don't think so, but cannot sure. I am sure about something though: they want as many people as possible to think that this is the case. Facebook and most of the other big internet-based companies get most of their money from advertisement. Paying for ads is just means to the end of having appealing-to-the-advertiser audience caring about those ads. Anything showing that Facebook actually has valuable insights into potential customers makes them more attractive to advertisers.

            From my experience in data ma

  • by CrashNBrn ( 1143981 ) on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:08PM (#55123769)

    Facebook claims to know where everyone lives...and Google Maps can't even find our house - it's claimed to be on a side street behind us where other houses that are on that side street are. They (Google) fixed it once after 6 correction submissions over 2 years, but it got retconned.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Even in North Korea?

  • There are some things that are better to not think about.
  • Where the fuck did this 7.5 billion people, "every person on earth" come from?

    The article clearly says they have coverage of 23 countries, and "millions" of people.

    It now knows where millions of humans live, everywhere on Earth, to within 15 feet.

    The company has created a data map of the human population by combining government census numbers with information it's obtained from space satellites, according to Janna Lewis, Facebook's head of strategic innovation partnerships and sourcing. A Facebook represent

  • *pretends to be shocked* But seriously, it's still creepy.
  • Now no one will ever be lost again!

    Or, on the other hand, you now can find where to go to really be alone!

    Unless it doesn't work that way. With Facebook, who knows?

  • Facebook says it will use its map data to help bring free internet access to un-served communities. BUT the 'Free Basics' internet service only provides restricted access to certain websites!

    That prompted "65 advocacy groups from 31 countries [to] release an open letter to Mark Zuckerberg, calling then-Internet.org a 'walled garden' in which the world’s poorest people only have access to a limited set of online services approved by Facebook and local carriers," according to a Mashable report* in 2016

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