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Microsoft Begins Rolling Out Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (windows.com) 118

Posted by msmash from the new-windows-release dept.
Microsoft has started to roll out Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, aka, "Redstone 3" to the general public. The company has been testing this new major update to its desktop operating system for over six months. Much like the previous major updates to Windows 10, the Fall Creators Update is also free to Windows 10 users. Some of the remarkable new features the company is shipping with Fall Creators Update include a major design tweak called Fluent Design System. The design changes, CNET writes, are "subtle, like motion and blur effects, along with the changes to the way windows appear." Also in the offering are support for mixed reality, improvements to Photos app, and OneDrive on-demand files -- a feature that many users have long requested. You can read more about these new features and improvements here.
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  • "Some of the remarkable new features"... (Score:4, Funny)

    by OffTheLip ( 636691 ) on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @01:34PM (#55384141)
    Sounds fair and balanced to me.

  • Already? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by JohnFen ( 1641097 ) on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @01:34PM (#55384143)

    Good god, how I dread these things. They always cost me time and hassle.

    • We under an hour on phenom x4 9850 with evo 850 ssd. Had to reinstall graphics driver. And before update it wanted to uninstall atlas reactor. Whatever.

  • Fail craters. Because it will crash and burn.

  • I'm not very creative, as you can tell.

  • Contrast (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Moof123 ( 1292134 ) on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @01:51PM (#55384263)

    I want to be able to find the damn scroll bars. Either improve the colors, let me choose a classic theme, or otherwise give me some ability of get rid of the flat interface disaster. That is my requested feature.

    • Agreed on that. Flat interface that makes it hard to know where things are just slow the user down. It's no fun.

    • Nothing wrong with the FLAT UI. There is a reason everyone is copying the concept, including google and the open source community.

      • Nothing wrong with the FLAT UI. There is a reason everyone is copying the concept, including google and the open source community.

        Peer pressure?
        omfglearntoplay got it right. What's wrong with it, is that it makes making out the features of the ui, like buttons, harder.
        Personally I use WindowBlinds to address the issue i windows 10. Currently my desktop almost looks like a win7 desktop, transparency included.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Agripa ( 139780 )

        Nothing wrong with the FLAT UI. There is a reason everyone is copying the concept, including google and the open source community.

        Idiocy?

        • Glossy tit-like buttons belong to the past decade. I am thankful for the invention (aka The Metro UI).

  • Oh great (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ) on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @02:02PM (#55384335)

    The design changes, CNET writes, are "subtle, like motion and blur effects, along with the changes to the way windows appear."

    So now we need even better GPUs just to make sure those stupid effects don't waste even more time.

    Anyone know how to disable the stupid "here's all your windows, click on one" effect and return ALT-TAB to the way it has worked for decades?

  • So remote desktop is going to be even more painful (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    "motion and blur effects" Please no. We have shared ISDN in our office since Comcast is almost two years late on their promised install, so this is going to make life suck even more. Hopefully it won't be hard to script to disable. We've already invested about two man-weeks in tweaks to Windows to try to make remote desktop less slow.

  • Microsoft begins rolling back Windows 10 failed creators update

  • what if i don't want any of this bullshit?
    What if i want an OS that leaves me alone to do my work without being pestered, rebooted, and nagged ?
    What if i have zero interest in cortana, skydrive, or any of the other bullshit foisted on me? (see above)

    (laptop came with windows 10 home, which .. fuck you MS. Not entirely sure the drivers are actually available for 7, or 8.1 in a pinch. Namely thunderbolt and touchscreen -- and entertaining the notion of spending ~$200 for the pro version to opt out of their

    • Re: not this shit again. (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Pro doesn't let you opt out. Only Enterprise or LTSB both of which can only be bulk licensed :(

    • Re:not this shit again. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Dutch Gun ( 899105 ) on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @03:45PM (#55385243)

      Product decisions like this are the reason MS will eventually lose the desktop OS market.

      How many decades is "eventually"? Windows 8 was probably the best chance ever for Linux to capture more of the desktop market, and it barely shifted - the only thing that happened is that Windows 7 users declined to upgrade.

      Even as someone who primarily uses Windows, I desperately wish Microsoft had more competition. Companies become arrogant and complacent when they have no competition. Windows 8 was a beautiful example of that arrogance and tone-deaf attitude on display, and I feel some of the more consumer-unfriendly decisions in Windows 10 wouldn't have occurred if Microsoft felt *any* threat from macOS or Linux in the desktop space.

      • "lose the desktop OS market"

        More like the desktop OS market is lost. People used to buy a PC because that's what they needed to access the internet. These days a phone can do that and MS already ceded the phone market so they're living on borrowed time as more and more people move away from the desktop. Being king of an ever shrinking market isn't a good thing. Linux doesn't need to win on the desktop, it already won the internet because the battlefield moved and MS couldn't move with it despite some very v

    • LTSB is the way to go, if you have to use Win10. PicoKMS is your friend for activating it. Cuts out all the BS from MS, and then use Win10privacy (run as Admin) to clear out the rest of the shit. Almost makes the system nice to use. ...almost

  • Some of the remarkable new features the company is shipping with Fall Creators Update include a major design tweak called Fluent Design System.

    Will this update still have the remarkable feature where it will FUBAR my wireless and ethernet connections and require a roll back to 1607?

  • Thanks for the warning. It allows me to set aside time in advance of the inevitable machine reimaging I have to do because Microsoft destroys our few Windows 10 machines again.

  • I recommend doing the following in Windows 10 (Score:5, Informative)

    by dstyle5 ( 702493 ) on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @03:48PM (#55385257)
    Go to Settings -> Update & security -> Advanced options and turn on Pause Updates.

    This will give Microsoft some time to fix those "oopsies" they missed in the first few month after release before they force me to update. Its only giving me a little over a month buffer this time, as opposed to a few months with the Creators Update, but it may save me some grief on my work PC.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by neilo_1701D ( 2765337 )

      This will give Microsoft some time to fix those "oopsies" they missed in the first few month after release before they force me to update. Its only giving me a little over a month buffer this time, as opposed to a few months with the Creators Update, but it may save me some grief on my work PC.

      Windows Insider here. The last almighty bork MS had win Win10 was a few months ago when an update to the slow ring messed up quite a few systems, and for me the rollback left me unable to apply the subsequent slow ring build. Since then, it's been very rock-solid.

      Pausing is fine, but the Windows team is really getting into the swing of frequent updates.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Tukz ( 664339 )

      Set your Branch to "Business". That defers any feature updates for several months before installing them.

      It was called "Defer Upgrades" before Creators update, which I only got rather recently because of that setting.

  • Much like the previous major updates to Windows 10 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @04:13PM (#55385427) Journal

    the software will become even less useful as Microsoft hides regularly used features such as Control Panel.

    Instead of being able to go directly to what you want you'll have to spend time searching. It's as if the developers have never been to a brick and mortar store in their life. When buying eggs, does one walk around the entire store looking for them, or do you go straight to the refrigerated section?

    Clippy lives on, albeit in another form.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jezwel ( 2451108 )

      the software will become even less useful as Microsoft hides regularly used features such as Control Panel.

      Is this the update that uninstalls Windows Media Player, but at least it is available to reinstall if needed?

  • Controlled Folder Access is a great feature, and long overdue.
  • Eighteen mentions of Microsoft on the front page and thirteen mentions of Windows.

  • Go to settings-> updates -> and select update schedule -> defere updates. Select 30 to 90 days. Done!

    For the system administrators now create a GPO to do the same and put it on Active Directory so no one else in your organization gets the updates until others find the bugs for you. Call it a day and go home.

    • Defer update is kind of pointless since it doesn't actually delay buggy updates. It just pause updates until X day and you are forced with whatever updates on the due date.

      So let's say update X is buggy and a later update Y is buggy. With the defer update, you'll get update X fix patch but you'll still get the newest buggy update Y.

      The users still don't get the choice to pick and avoid newest buggy update.

  • I love how Microsoft forces the new update after "testing it for over 6 months", and causes my software to crash. At least now I know why I have problems with Mirillis Action! [mirillis.com] , I hope they will release the patch soon.

  • Just finished upgrading to Fall Creators Update.

    I use Slackware Linux (-current 64-bit) and Windows 10 in a dual boot setting managed by GRUB. Both OSes are in partitions of a single drive (/dev/sda).

    I thought of this setup as highly stable. It started as a dual boot between Slackware and Windows 8.1. It survived upgrades to Windows 10, Anniversary Update and Creators Update without any hassle, so I thought this time would be equally painless. I was wrong.

    This Windows upgrade totally b0rked my previous part

  • I don't think a single one of the "improvements" listed is of any interest. But one non-listed improvement is highly important: a fix to the bug (or several bugs) in the .NET garbage collector introduced with the spring 2017 release. That bug caused major issues for one program I use (SIL's Fieldworks Language Explorer), and I presume it must affect other programs built with .Net. Despite its being documented back in May, and (I'm told) fixed in Insider Releases in June, Ms has only now gotten around to

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