Twitter Plans To End Revenge Porn Next Week, Hate Speech In Two (arstechnica.com) 293
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: In the beginning of 2017, Twitter said it would take on harassment and hate speech. CEO Jack Dorsey said the company would embrace a "completely new approach to abuse on Twitter" with open dialogue along the way. For months, though, the company has offered few details about what it would do, or when. That changed late yesterday, when Twitter posted a timeline with specific promises on actions it will take. The changes begin next week. On October 27, Twitter will expand what types of "non-consensual nudity" (aka "revenge porn") that it takes action against. The company will already act when a victim complains, but Twitter will soon act even in cases where the victims may not be aware images were taken, instances like upskirt photos and hidden webcams. "Anyone we identify as the original poster of non-consensual nudity will be suspended immediately," the October entry reads. On November 3, Twitter will ban hate imagery in profile headers and avatars, and the service will start suspending accounts "for organizations that use violence to advance their cause." The same day it will institute a policy of stopping "Unwanted Sexual Advances," although the company says it has already been taking enforcement actions on this front. Later in November, Twitter will ban "hateful display names."
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Don't you worry one bit lad! Twitter's banbot has been updated with the latest AI and anyone posting pictures of glasses of milk, the OK fingersign, any frogs whatsoever, or any posting with the letters "k", "e" and another "k" in it will be immediately banned without possibility of appeal. Our staff are diligently scanning 4chan to maintain the most up-to-date hate speech monitoring as well, so new memes will immediately result in more mass bans to keep our platform free of the villainy of hate speech retroactively!
Yours,
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Welcome to the future, comrades!
Twitter: Building the Radiant Future one Goosestep at a time!
Re: Soo... by November 3rd... (Score:2)
I wasn't aware Twitter had any other active users besides Emperor Trump. Really does seem like they spend an awful lot of QE money on a service no one still uses.
"violence to advance their cause" (Score:2)
... the service will start suspending accounts "for organizations that use violence to advance their cause."
No more government-sanctioned posts on Twitter, then? Good riddance.
Re:"violence to advance their cause" (Score:4, Insightful)
I look forward to seeing Antifa accounts suspended.
Promoting the leftist agenda (Score:4, Insightful)
I look forward to seeing Antifa accounts suspended.
Good luck with that.
A fuckton of people are on Gab after getting kicked off of twitter, and are running a thread Not Allowed on Twitter [gab.ai].
I realize this is probably a biased sample, but there's a lot of "*this* got me kicked off, while *that* is allowed" posts that highlight the double-standard.
It would seem that left-leaning posts are taken with a wink and a smile, while right-leaning posts are censored with an overreaching iron fist. It's often completely mysterious what twitter standards are violated; apparently talking about and linking to someone twitter doesn't like (such as Milo) is enough to get you banned, even if the actual text is pedestrian such as "I saw this guy speak last night and he was OK".
There was one post that came out completely against Nazis (saying things like "Nazis are bad, I don't condone nazis, and the like) and apparently used the word "nazi" too many times and got banned. All from completely unexciting text.
Here's an example [windows.net] of a post that's *allowed* on twitter.
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Plenty of left leaning people get banned on Twitter too. Kevin Logan was banned last week for a relatively mild insult. Twitter is just bad at enforcing rules and is reliant on people reporting stuff.
The whole point of this change is to be proactive and enforce more consistently. I'm not sure it's a great idea but let's see how it works.
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And as long as Gab shows a login screen instead of the thread that you linked to, Twitter will not need to worry about the competition.
Re:Promoting the leftist agenda (Score:5, Interesting)
Gab probably can't open up too much because then the lawsuits would start to fly. Being indexed by search engines and widely linked has that effect if you don't moderate your content.
Gab isn't safe anyway. The reason Milo for banned from Twitter and many speaking events is that he sets mobs on people and outs them against their will.
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Violence against nazis, white supremacists and fascists is acceptable. It's always been acceptable and it always will be acceptable. It may not be politically correct to punch nazis, but that's too bad. Suck it up, buttercup.
Violence against nazis, white supremacists and fascists is part of our heritage. You're not trying to destroy our heritage, are you?
Here is the problem. ANTIFA are Nazis. They look like Nazis and act like Nazis. They just do not know what a Nazi is.
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Here is the problem. ANTIFA are Nazis. They look like Nazis and act like Nazis. They just do not know what a Nazi is.
Actually they are fascists that think themselves marxists.
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Re:"violence to advance their cause" (Score:5, Insightful)
Funniest thing I've read this week.
Oh wait, you were serious. You actually think that AntiFa are national socialists. The group whose sole shared goal is opposing the far right, are also the far right.
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that was a case of mistaken identity, so your interpretation of a valid citation is crap
Oh, so violence isn't violence when its done to a random passerby who didn't support the imaginary political alignment(german nationalist socialist party is extinct) of your choosing???
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Remind me, when did ANTIFA build concentration camps and kill millions?
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Antifa doesn't refer to an organization that you could track that way.
These are mostly groups that were formed this year, in the USA, not in Germany or somewhere, and they haven't killed anybody.
You're a prime example of a nazi moron, talking big behind an Anonymous Coward screen!
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http://webcache.googleusercont... [googleusercontent.com]
Nazis are the ones who give nazi salutes and get arrested for attempted murder and being felons in possession of firearms.
Antifa are the ones who fight said nazis with just batons and courage.
If you can't tell them apart, you're probably a nazi.
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Squirrel!!!
Not convinced.
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really? I just see two sides of the same shit-eating coin.
The only silver lining to their shenanigans is that their behavior does more to hinder their cause than anything their opposition could ever do. It's almost like they're both false flags setup to discredit fringe/extremist viewpoints.
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Except one side defines "Nazi" as anyone who disagrees with their extremist social and political decisions. And even if they were fighting only actual neo-Nazis, adopting every negative trait of a Nazi to fight a Nazi only makes you a hypocrite, not a freedom fighter.
And you had better remember that the precedent and laws you set today will be turned against you tomorrow. Punch a Nazi today and tomorrow *you* may be the Nazi that someone has decided that it's okay to punch.
And anyway, I don't want to live i
Re:"violence to advance their cause" (Score:5, Insightful)
You repeat that canard, but it's just not true. We're talking about literal Nazis, promoting literal ethnic cleansing using literal swastikas. Just because they put a picture of Pepe next to the swastika doesn't make them less Nazi.
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We're talking about literal Nazis, promoting literal ethnic cleansing using literal swastikas.
Nazis are dead, the party is banned in the country which is tied to the name. Only ones doing this with obsoleted german flags are FBI agent provocateurs looking for chumps to jail and trolls who won't carry any action into real world.
Re: "violence to advance their cause" (Score:2)
Antifa are NOT Communists. We want nothing whatsoever to do with those brownshirt capitalist thugs.
They demonstrate no socialist economic awareness and no solidarity with working people. They are nothing more than paid agents and unpaid dupes of big money.
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Do you believe every single news outlet in the world is using a photoshopped image of a Nazi being punched?
Here a local Florida newspaper:
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/... [orlandoweekly.com]
And here's a British newspaper:
https://www.independent.co.uk/... [independent.co.uk]
And here's a video of Richard Spencer being punched, just because it's so fun to watch:
https://youtu.be/9rh1dhur4aI [youtu.be]
Re:"violence to advance their cause" (Score:5, Insightful)
Do you believe every single news outlet in the world is
Before the 2016 election, I would have laughed at you for claiming that "every single outlet in the world [is wrong]". But we live in strange times, and news outlets aren't based in reality. At best, they report things that make money, or that garner eyeballs. At worst, they mislead the public to push political agendas and issues that benefit their shareholders and owners. And yeah, they frequently all report the wrong facts together, in a sort of hysteria. If you work in IT this phenomenon is obvious. A popular consensus of stupidity does not make an idea (or a news article) any less stupid.
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The "wrong facts"? No. Just no.
There are no alternate facts. That's post-truth bullshit. Mistakes happen, but that doesn't mean you should just pick the alternate facts that suit your political leaning.
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And what are you going to say when the tide turns and everyone decides it's okay to punch Marxists?
Just remember that the precedent you set today can be turned against you tomorrow.
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If I ever decide that genocide is okay or some group is sub-human, feel free to punch me.
By the way, your signature makes you look silly now. Your prediction was way off the mark.
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By the way, your signature makes you look silly now. Your prediction was way off the mark.
LOL. Keep watching, You'll be eating those words soon.
Re: "violence to advance their cause" (Score:2)
My grandfather was imprisoned and tortured by Marxists. Our family of educators was largely dispossessed because of their associations with anti-revolutionary entities (western friends and colleagues). Despite what they did on the personal scale and their policies that resulted in millions dying, I still don't believe I have a right to initiate force against people who hold Marxist beliefs. Am I in the right or in the wrong here?
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Someone did give Hitler a good slap. It helped propel him to his political career, so he'd be the one doing the slapping.
But it's interesting to see you embrace the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive attack. As long as you're sure your attacking a Bad Person, it's OK to be the side initiating violence? I think that's what you're saying. Think about what happens when the other side starts doing the same.
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It wouldn't be preemptive if it was Richard Spencer. He has already called for ethic cleansing through violence if necessary.
Re:"violence to advance their cause" (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah, it's not like Nazi's would drive a car in to a crowd of people or shout racial slurs while firing a gun at someone in a crowd or anything...
Yeah, all that stuff must have been "fake news", right?
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Yeah, it's not like Nazi's would drive a car in to a crowd of people or shout racial slurs while firing a gun at someone in a crowd or anything...
Yeah, all that stuff must have been "fake news", right?
Prove he had a GERMAN NATIONALIST SOCIALIST PARTY card/membership, I fucking dare you!
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That's why I only fly the 47-star flag.
Better keep that safe ;^) Those 47 star flags are fetching a pretty penny on Ebay...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-... [ebay.com]
Trivia alert: of course that's not because of the Ohio thing, it's because it's an unofficial flag celebrating NM. Technically, new flags are only officially adopted on July 4th and NM entered the union in Jan and AZ entered in Feb one month later...
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And yet, that 47-star flag on ebay was posted from Columbiana, Ohio.
Now you know the rest of the story. Coincidence? Perhaps not.
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Yeah, and Apple thought everybody was going to pronounce SCSI as "sexy."
What somebody intended is not the same thing as what actually happened.
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Violence against nazis, white supremacists and fascists is acceptable. It's always been acceptable and it always will be acceptable.
Amazingly, this is incorrect. Volunteers from the US who went to help the Spanish again fascists before the outbreak of WW2 were labelled communists for their trouble and prohibited from joining the regular US Army.
Re: "violence to advance their cause" (Score:5, Insightful)
According to Twitter, no violence is acceptable, so if that is the policy all Antifa related accounts should be terminated. It doesn't matter how you feel about violence being acceptable, what matters in this case are Twitter's term of service.
P.S. if you endorse a philosophy where it is OK to use violence against people, they it is equally OK for them to use violence against you because hey, they also think you are fascists. That is why advocating for violence on any grounds is never very smart, because there is always someone who can classify you as being within the bounds you yourself set.
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If Antifa is serious about violence against Nazis, why haven't the gone after admitted Nazi collaborator George Soros?
Oh, that's right, because he bankrolls their operations through his "Open Society Foundation".
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It may not be politically correct to punch nazis, but that's too bad.
Maybe to Nazis it's not politically correct. To anyone else with a modicum of moral fiber it is commendable.
People have even gotten medals and shit for KILLING Nazis.
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Yes but that was before they were metaphors.
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The medals were for heroism in battle. That is, for killing German soldiers. Most of those soldiers were not members of the Nazi party. They were fighting because their country told them to fight.
Our soldiers were doing the same thing: fighting because their country told them to fight. That's what soldiers do. That's what military heroism is about. Politics, Nazi, anti-Nazi, and otherwise had nothing to do with it.
Now stop lying, stop astroturfing, and go enjoy the Moscow snow.
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Violence against nazis, white supremacists and fascists is acceptable. It's always been acceptable and it always will be acceptable.
No, it hasn't [suntimes.com].
Liberals used to stand up for free speech. I was proud to be among them back then.
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Antifa's definition of nazi is anyone who is to the right of Joseph Stalin.
Re: "violence to advance their cause" (Score:2)
So you approve of people beating you up? After all, you *are* one of the biggest fascists on Slashdot.
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You think we just killed the Nazis that burned Jews? No, my friend, we killed every Nazi we could. If you put on the swastika and saluted Hitler, you were a target. Nothing has changed.
Re:"violence to advance their cause" (Score:4, Insightful)
Got news for you: A lot of the original Nazis were also just cowards waving the flag.
It's simple: You wave the Nazi flag, you're a Nazi. There's no need to over-think this.
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It's simple: You wave the Nazi flag, you're a Nazi. There's no need to over-think this.
No, if you wave a _nazi_ flag you're FBI agent provocateur
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I don't think we have to worry about there being any rocket scientists among the current crop of Nazis.
Re: "violence to advance their cause" (Score:2)
How's the weather in Kiev today?
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>The Russians deserve a helluva lot of credit too
No shit. If they hadn't become 'the enemy' we'd probably still feel badly about how much they got burned by the Great Patriotic War.
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Trump said some were good people.
On both sides no less. Oh I know, it's so hard when someone makes that comment about there being good people on both sides. Or shall we just say that since ABC, NBC, CBS and so on came out asking "is it okay to punch a nazi" and several commentators argued in favor for it, that they're actually all neo-fascist organizations bent on overthrowing capitalist society and you're the bulwark in their defense.
See how easy it is?
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Opposition to *actual* Nazis is a good thing.
Antifa, however, just asserts that anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi, and that assertion is sufficient to justify any sort of violence they want to perpetrate. Their definition of "Nazi" seems to be anyone to the right of an ever-leftward-rushing line. Barbara Boxer recently ran afoul of them. Lately, they seem to be including the ACLU in their list of Nazi organizations.
Did everyone forget Pol Pot? That's where they seem to be heading.
Re:"violence to advance their cause" (Score:5, Informative)
Almost everything you think you know about Antifa is due to trolling [google.is]. There are extensive troll campaigns out there involving fake Antifa accounts. Each tries to outdo each other with the most outrageous thing they can say to make gullible right wingers take them seriously.
"Antifa" has no ideology except hatred of Nazis and those espousing similar ideologies (general white supremecists). It is not a "group". It has no "leaders". No little black book. Nothing except "hates and will actively oppose Nazis and other white supremecists", and random people who are of that view describe themselves with the term Antifa. Not all people who identify as "Antifa" support violence as a means to counter Nazi activity (there's been a widespread "Is it okay to punch a Nazi?" debate since Richard Spencer was punched on camera). Of those who would answer that with "Yes", there's a further subset known as "Black Bloc"; which again is not an ideology but more of a style (dressing in black and actively physically engaging when Nazis and aligned groups come to town). The "Don't punch a Nazi" crowd thinks of them as counterproductive. Black Bloc style protesting existed before "Antifa"; before the most recent flareup, it was most commonly associated in the US with WTO protests.
To reiterate: Black Bloc does engage in violence - although you might have been misled about "innocent victims". To pick an example: the most famous viral video of Black Bloc actions was this attack [twitter.com]. Who is that poor innocent victim? Why, that's Keith Campbell, known on Twitter as "PatriotWarriorMedia". He's involved in R.A.M. ("Rise Above Movement"), a group built specifically around active training to engage in street brawls with perceived leftists [propublica.org]. Rather than all black, their hide-their-face approach is black skeleton masks [youtube.com].
What did Campbell have to say about that protest where he got beaten up beforehand? Why let's look! [twitter.com]: "Fuck Antifa! Let them come to Berkeley on August 27th so we can kick their asses AGAIN! @1776RealNews @ProudBoysCA @BasedCops"
How did that work out for you, Keith?
Anyway, this is all secondary to my main point, which was to make you aware of the fact that the vast majority of "Antifa" accounts are just trolling to try to dupe gullible right wingers. My personal take on the whole thing? Black Bloc protesters and R.A.M. deserve each other, and both can go F* themselves as far as I'm concerned.
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"Antifa" has no ideology except hatred of Nazis and those espousing similar ideologies (general white supremecists). It is not a "group". It has no "leaders".
Hmm...that doesn't seem to be the case, hell the original antifa which they'll claim they're based off of had leaders and even openly supported communism. You find an antifa in the street and you can bet that they'll be hoping for a commie revolution along the way. The difference between a nazi and antifa are the side of the coin they're on, that's it. They both had leaders, they both have an ideology.
Antifa just happens to be engaging in the tactics that caused the same problem as last time. Namely vio
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"They" don't claim anything. Fake troll twitter accounts claim things. What part about this aren't you understanding?
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"They" don't claim anything. Fake troll twitter accounts claim things. What part about this aren't you understanding?
What part of get off your ass and ask them in the streets aren't you understanding with this? Many of them absolutely do claim those things, hell you can even find indie journos like Tim Pool who were doxed and harassed by antifa for bringing this to light. The german state didn't shut down indymedia in a vacuum.
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Considering that republicans have lowered the bar for being a communist to "supports universal healthcare", then yes, I guess most of the USA is probably communist.
Considering that democrats have lowered the bar for being a nazi to "anyone who supports the 1st amendment or gun rights", then yes, I guess most of the USA is probably nazi's.
Do you see how stupid your reasoning is?
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You understand that an organisation doesn't automatically adopt the political leanings of its leaders, right?
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Members of two violent gangs go looking for a fight. If fight ensues, they are both criminals. The danger is the conflict will grow, and more people looking for a cause and personal meaning will take up with one side or another.
And the antifa does have a particular ideological profile even it they aren't formally organized. (A activist tactic to avoid or route around police interference). The Jesish Rabbi council is definitely against Nazi's, but I would guess they tend to be pretty pro-capitalism. There i
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What a load of crap. You brown shirts went after Ben Shapiro in Berkeley. You're violent, nasty thugs who have no place in a civil society. I'm thankful that Berkeley, of all places, had the good sense to realize that law and order must be maintained, and properly secured his second appearance.
You have chosen to live by the sword; push the rest of us too far, you will die by it as well. Fortunately even left-wing mayors and college administrators are starting to realize it's best to prevent you from startin
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Do you have a link for the Barbara Boxer thing? The only thing I could find was a tweet by a fake Twitter account.
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What's the difference between a fake Twitter account and a real Twitter account? Even if the user is fake, the account is still real, right? Does it mean there's a fake Twitter, like Twittter.com, for example?
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The fake one claims to be "AntiFa Boston" but is actually someone in an office in Moscow. They post deliberately inflammatory stuff to engage the right wing.
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Antifa, however, just asserts that anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi
[citation needed]
and that assertion is sufficient to justify any sort of violence they want to perpetrate.
You mean like your bullshit, unsupported assertion that Antifa asserts that anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi?
Hypocrite.
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That is exactly why many of us think Anti-Fa should be shut down, they are modern browncoats who use violence against the Other in exactly the same way.
Real "nazis" are not giving peaceful talks and demonstrations, real nazis are the ones hurting other people and damaging property and shutting down speech because it goes against the Party.
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Seriously, google antifa troll campaign [google.is]. It isn't that hard.
They're fishing for gullible right-wingers. Amusing how well it works.
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Do they work out of the same troll factory where you are employed?
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I'm going to create a twitter account and report any account that ever used #punchanazi for advocating and encouraging violence.
That should help them.
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Suuuure They Are (Score:2)
I'll believe it when... (Score:2)
They ban the POTUS' account. Most of it's just stupid shit that's 'not presidential', but some of it is hate-mongering.
Prediction: Twitter will continue to hide behind a bullshit exemption (if they acknowledge the exception at all) because Trump's bile draws eyeballs like a traffic accident.
Propaganda Network? (Score:3)
Positive news about communist parties and communist party history?
Really, really positive movie and actor reviews. Negative reviews get removed?
Reminders from governments about policy and laws?
Positive tourism stories?
Positive product reviews?
Re: Propaganda Network? (Score:2)
It'll be just like the state-run newspapers in a Communist country. Only less well-written. And in support of socially degenerate forms of capitalism, rather than mild socialism.
(Fwiw, I currently live in a Communist country. The semi-official news media here are no worse than the semi-official news media in the States. Maybe a little better, because at least they are not pretending to be objective.)
Twitter becomes unrecoverable in 2 weeks (Score:3)
Based on Twitter's abuse of its users by banning people who lack right-think, and the narrower and narrower that band becomes, they're just going to be banning most of its active users for "hatespeech," i.e. opinions whomever is looking at it thinks is wrong.
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Oh, Mein Herr! You've found me out! Achtung!
'There are some bad guys out there.....' (Score:2)
Close Trump's account (Score:2)
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Given that's more than half of the giant Twit's own net worth he should be knocking on twitters door any day now to demand a cut...
driven mad by capitalism (Score:2)
Feeling outraged but can't figure out why? Invent something!
This happens a lot, I suspect.
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Oh it happens, but I don't think it's as widespread as people try to claim. Heres's an example of it that got to court almost a decade ago: http://www.google.com.au/search?rls=en&q=giller+v+procopets [google.com.au].