China Says Foreign Firms Won't Be Forced To Turn Over Technology (vice.com) 40
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: A top Communist Party official said Friday that China won't force foreign companies to turn over technology secrets to gain market access, signaling attention to a key sticking point with U.S. President Donald Trump as he prepared to leave Beijing. The statement by Chinese Vice Premier Wang Yang, the Communist Party's No. 4 official, was made in an article published in the People's Daily newspaper under his byline. While other Chinese officials have made similar pledges in the past about foreign technology, Wang's statement stands out for the seniority of the person making it and its timing. In his article, Wang also pledged to improve the foreign investment environment and treat all companies equally. China will also increase access to its services and manufacturing sectors, wrote Wang, who was last month promoted to the country's top-decision making body, the Politburo Standing Committee.
They'll just steal it like always instead (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:They'll just steal it like always instead (Score:4, Insightful)
What's wrong with reverse engineering?
Let me guess, it's not about that at all, is it?
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Chinee penis soooooo small they snort ground up rhino horn because that will magically make their cocks bigger.
Not a problem. While we're scared-shitless busy labeling all our food No GMO, China ill be applying the same tech to give every man a pepperoni. Then watch them invade North Korea to get the women they now find themselves so short of.
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Reverse engineering has been at the core of every significant open source project ever created.
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It always strikes me as odd when Americans who like open source oppose IP. At least some of the difference in prosperity between the USA and say China comes from the fact that US companies own vast amounts of IP and the USA has rigged the international rules on IP to its benefit.
Get rid of patents and copyright and the power won't move from Apple, Microsoft etc to open source projects, it will move to people who own factories in China.
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The hard push to transition into an IP-based economy was pretty stupid in retrospect, wasn't it?
It works fine as long as you only deal with people who respect you and agrees to your terms.
As soon as you run into someone who doesn't give a shit about your IP then you've got nothing.
They have an economy based on physical items and work that can't be "stolen" by a simple ctrl-c + ctrl-v.
If you want to compete with that you need an economy that isn't based on past merits.
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You call it stealing, they call it learning. Do you ever use paper?
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Implying that they were the only culture to 'invent' paper
Do you even history?
I will laugh and cry (Score:1)
They've already got enough of it and are now developing their own.
a matter of character(s) (Score:2, Insightful)
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I've visited China many times over the last decade, and I've always been treated extremely well there.
Since AFAIK I'm not especially important, I suspect it has something to do with my attitude. Perhaps you might try adjusting yours.
As for the announcement referenced in the story, I'm completely unsurprised--that's a negotiating tactic that is in no wise exclusive to China or the Chinese.
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Of course foreign companies will not be 'FORCED' to hand over the data, they will do it 'VOLUNTARILY' because say, another competitor has done so, adding value to their bid and so to compete, well, enough said. The whole China US thing was nothing but an empty charade, no matter how well XI maintains that inscrutable demeanour, the contempt of Trump as a nothing puppet of the US deep state and shadow government, totally exuded through (visibly leaning away from Trump many times).
Seriously with the CIA/NSA
Wang Yang (Score:5, Interesting)
Interestingly, this places Wang Yang in the unenviable position of meteoric rise or cataclysmic fall within the Communist Party.
More interestingly, does this mean the Chinese were won over by Trump, or do they think this concession is a way to play him?
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Ah.
So, you're going with "play."
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China doesn't have to plunder anything. They are building the technologies that to a large extent we are no longer bothering to develop.
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The US still has several tricks up its sleeves: biotech and pharma research, R&D for computer software and hardware, airspace and so on. But at this point China probably is not worried that these areas give the US a crippling advantage over China.
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We can just buy high-speed rail, e.g. from the French. But you can't just buy the ability to create technology on your own in a timely fashion. That takes a cultural shift. The USA was long the nation that people defected to when they defected from somewhere, which brought us many fine engineers who helped us remain technologically advanced. This tendency must be decreased of late due to our political condition, but the people who aren't coming here sure as hell aren't going to China.
If China wants to be cr
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Re: a horse long bolted (Score:1)
The US treats scientists, engineers, and tech people very poorly. And by 'US' I mean US corporations and fatcats and by 'scientists, engineers, and tech people' I mean especially native born US citizens. The result is fewer people interested and those same corps screaming about an alleged skills shortage that they caused. (Also, what, you think all the press all at once blathering how we need more women in tech was coincidence? It's just a manufactured attempt to dilute salaries now that the H1B river i
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No force needed (Score:2)