North Korean Hackers Are Targeting US Defense Contractors (wpengine.com) 146
chicksdaddy quotes Security Ledger:
North Korean hackers have stepped up their attacks on U.S. defense contractors in an apparent effort to gain intelligence on weapon systems and other assets that might be used against the country in an armed conflict with the United States and its allies, The Security Ledger is reporting. Security experts and defense industry personnel interviewed by The Security Ledger say that probes and attacks by hacking groups known to be associated with the government of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) have increased markedly as hostilities between that country and the United States have ratcheted up in the last year. The hacking attempts seem to be aimed at gaining access to intellectual property belonging to the companies, including weapons systems deployed on the Korean peninsula.
"As the situation between the DPRK and the US has become more tense, we've definitely seen an increase in number of probe attempts from cyber actors coming out of the DPRK," an official at an aerospace and defense firm told Security Ledger. The so-called "probes" were targeting the company's administrative network and included spear phishing attacks via email and other channels. The goal was to compromise computers on the corporate network... So far, the attacks have targeted "weakest links" within the firms, such as Human Resources personnel and general inquiry mailboxes, rather than targeting technical staff directly. However, experts who follow the DPRK's fast evolving cyber capabilities say that the country may have more up their sleeve.
CNBC also reports that America's congressional defense committees have authorized a last-minute request for $4 billion in extra spending for "urgent missile defeat and defense enhancements to counter the threat of North Korea."
Other countries newly interested in purchasing missile defense systems include Japan, Sweden, Poland, and Saudi Arabia.
"As the situation between the DPRK and the US has become more tense, we've definitely seen an increase in number of probe attempts from cyber actors coming out of the DPRK," an official at an aerospace and defense firm told Security Ledger. The so-called "probes" were targeting the company's administrative network and included spear phishing attacks via email and other channels. The goal was to compromise computers on the corporate network... So far, the attacks have targeted "weakest links" within the firms, such as Human Resources personnel and general inquiry mailboxes, rather than targeting technical staff directly. However, experts who follow the DPRK's fast evolving cyber capabilities say that the country may have more up their sleeve.
CNBC also reports that America's congressional defense committees have authorized a last-minute request for $4 billion in extra spending for "urgent missile defeat and defense enhancements to counter the threat of North Korea."
Other countries newly interested in purchasing missile defense systems include Japan, Sweden, Poland, and Saudi Arabia.
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Filled with anti-NK propaganda, in the Korean language.
No, seed the honeypot with "plans" and "manufacturing data" for the new American "quantum wormhole bomb" of infinitely powerful capabilities and that has already been deployed in DPRK territory using "microdrones." Start a snipe hunt that diverts Un's military in hilarious directions until it runs out of resources.
Re: Counter with honeypots (Score:1)
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What do you think NK is doing to the US right now?
They keep baiting Trump, knowing that he will be unable to resist responding with a tweet or vague threat, which only makes him look even less capable of actually doing anything to improve the situation and strengthens Un's position as a player on the world stage.
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I hardly think Trump is acting unilaterally here. Strategists are using him as a psychological weapon against Un, who probably believes that Trump has the power to press the nuclear button out of personal pique.
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...who probably believes that Trump has the power to press the nuclear button out of personal pique.
He does. Frightening thought now aint it?
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They keep baiting Trump, knowing that he will be unable to resist responding with a tweet or vague threat, which only makes him look even less capable of actually doing anything to improve the situation and strengthens Un's position as a player on the world stage.
Ok, so what is the proper response? How does he respond without improving Un's position on the world stage? Or how does he respond to limit the nuclear capabilities of NK? Considering the last 30-50 years I don't think there has been any response that has worked.
Besides, if the only response are Tweets or vague threats then that is definitely better than preemptive war.
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Be presidential about it. Avoid pretty insults and idle threats. Stop the antagonistic war games with South Korea. Stick with the sanctions and food aid. Work with China.
Yes, it's frustrating that more cannot be done. But at least that route does not lead to a catastrophic war. North Korea can be talked to, is open to diplomacy. When it's tried it works, it just doesn't get tired enough.
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Stick with the sanctions and food aid. Work with China.
I mean, I agree but hasn't that been tried the last few number of decades with limited to no success? At some point it is a failed policy. Continuing a failed policy is stupid that will be taken advantage of by other foreign entities.
at least that route does not lead to a catastrophic war
Does it? It hasn't lowered tensions. It hasn't stopped the rhetoric. It hasn't stopped the posturing. It hasn't limited nuclear proliferation. It hasn't done anything to establish a peace agreement beyond the armistice. Seems like all it has done is buy time for NK to build up
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The war games and aggressive stance have been tried for just as long. When do we say that has failed?
We need to do one at a time. They are working against each other. The diplomacy is the only thing that de-escalated and prevented war so far. And it's had other successes, like progress on the kidnappings. The joint economic area is another example.
NK can't do anything about their border. They know that. Their motivation at the moment is MAD with the US and making the most of the opportunity Trump presents.
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The war games and aggressive stance have been tried for just as long. When do we say that has failed?
I agree. So if either policy is failed. What's next? Action? Threatening Tweets sound a whole hell of a lot better than anything either you or I have mentioned. They are not constructive but nor has the last 30 years of policy. Again, to your OP what policy will make trump look capable? Obama did the opposite and he looked like a damned fool while acting presidential. Nothing can be done to look capable because there is nothing capable of working that hasn't been tried short of war.
Their motivation at the moment is MAD with the US
No matter what we do then
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Are you really saying that starting a war with a tweet is now the best option?
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No, I said " Tweets sound a whole hell of a lot better than anything either you or I have mentioned. ". My point was that in your OP there is nothing that Trump, or any US president, can do to look capable while not strengthening Un's position in the world stage. Between failed policy that emboldens Un or failed policy that angers Un, threatening tweets are hardly a problem.
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We haven't had a war with North Korea while following a peaceful policy. We haven't constructively engaged with them, but that's not going to happen any time soon under any footing. I call not having a war a success.
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What do you mean? We are still at war. An armistice != peace agreement.
It takes two to make peace as it does to make war. As much as we havn't "constructively engaged" with them they haven't us.
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Sure, legally we're at war. Who cares about legalities nowadays? Certainly not the US (and that's not a new thing either).
People outside North Korea haven't been killed in any significant numbers by North Koreans since the armistice. I'm calling that a success.
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And the military build up and nuclear arms? Chamberlain thought his talks with Germany were a success too. Can you be sure that NK won't start an offensive like what happened in 1950? Can you be sure that the US will always be around to help and protect SK and Japan?
Who cares about legalities nowadays?
You are right. non-proliferation is a failed policy and the UN is a toothless animal. What should happen with the next despot wanting/getting nukes?
I don't want war but sometimes it's necessary. I don't know the right answer for NK but the last
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Chamberlain was dealing with a large industrial giant with a large population. We're talking about a small, nearly starving, country. There's a very large difference there. Germany was quite capable of being dangerous to Europe. North Korea is capable of being dangerous to South Korea and Japan (and China, but they're not going that way).
Another 1950 would inflict tremendous civilian casualties among the South, but it's not at all obvious the North could win. US help, which would be forthcoming, wou
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the world you would create is dangerous. much more so than if the us preemptively attacked nk. i am glad you are not in the position to make those decisions.
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Pre-emptively attacking North Korea kills thousands and thousands of South Korean civilians right off the bat, considering the locations of North Korean artillery and Seoul. Under the present circumstances, it also risks war with China, which is not a good idea.
We kept the peace with much larger and more powerful countries. As long as North Korea doesn't launch an attack itself, which the Chinese don't want, and which would be disastrous for the North Korean government, we're doing well.
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Filled with anti-NK propaganda, in the Korean language.
No, seed the honeypot with "plans" and "manufacturing data" for the new American "quantum wormhole bomb" of infinitely powerful capabilities and that has already been deployed in DPRK territory using "microdrones." Start a snipe hunt that diverts Un's military in hilarious directions until it runs out of resources.
I don't remember the details, but back in the Cold War US intelligence knew the Soviets were going to steal something in particular at a particular, so they put an altered version for them to steal. They built theirs according to the stolen specs...and it blew up on them as designed. I like your plan, too.
alliance (Score:4, Insightful)
Our good friends in Russia are still doing lots of business with North Korea.
Donald, they're laughing at you, not with you.
https://www.theatlantic.com/in... [theatlantic.com]
Re: alliance (Score:1)
The American preoccupation with Russia and claims without supporting evidence is fascinating, though maybe dangerous.
Russia is not among the 5 largest importers from North Korea and as for exports to North Korea it was less than $80 million putting them third closely followed by Thailand. Look at the numbers for China.
Aside from China, a few other countries trade with North Korea as well. Pyongyang also did business with India, Pakistan, Russia, Thailand and the Philippines, according to the Massachusetts I
Donald Trump is President (Score:2)
"I could stand on fifth avenue and shoot someone" (Score:1, Insightful)
"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone, and people would still vote for me."
Yes, dear Trump supporter, you're a fucking moron. Even Trump himself thinks you're a fucking moron, and he was right, because he told you to your face, and you still voted for him.
So why should anyone take seriously anything that comes out of this stupid, worthless, moronic, retarded parody of a brain of yours ?
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It would be retarded, even more moronic, to vote for the same old same old. Hillary the unindicted felon, or Jeb the play toy of the Establishment, or Kucinich, the tool of whoever is holding him at the moment? Sanders, avowed socialist?
Only Crux had my attention, and the Establishment hated him even more than Trump. If you're paying attention, you know the Establishment hates only YOU more than Trump. Either because you are in the way of their total dominance, or because you are a loathsome ignorant shill,
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Because the USA, despite its flaws, is still a pretty remarkable place.
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We could have had Ted Cruz as a Republican candidate.
But that would have been disaster, for he would have played by the 'rules', and been defeated, and a Clinton presidency would be the end of our democracy.
This is all in large part the result of the unholy alliance of the Democratic Party, the major media in the US and worldwide, and the global Leftist movement. They have elected twice a man who admitted to a relationship with a junior intern that would have resulted in a high school principal being dismis
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just pay them it's skywriters code!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Don't use drones to write stuff with smoke in the sky, that's moronic.
Use a swarm of drones and use them as pixels to write something in the sky.
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Yes, he’s making peace with them by becoming Putin’s fluffer and going out of his way to excuse dictators.
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If by "make peace with Russia" you mean surrender your nation's presidency to Vladimir Putin, then the United States can cross that one off as Mission Accomplished.
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If you have a pulse.. and a conscious.. you cannot condone the continual violations of human rights.. the epic oppression of the people in his country while at the same time trying to make nice with this terrorist-in-charge.
Interesting claim since he’s doing just that with China, Russia and Saudi Arabia.
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You forgot one important point. Predictability is what makes your allies stay in line with you. Predictability is what allows you to sign treates (or a deal as some may say) with other countries. Someone with a business background would probably know that an unpredictable partner isn't a partner at all (unfortunately the US president has a doubtable business qualification). When you go unpredictable you get what you are looking for, that is:
- other countries don't trust you and don't want to be your allies
No shit sherlock (Score:5, Insightful)
Now, watch the news. If you start seeing more and more of these kind of stories about scary things NK is doing that's when you start worrying, because it means our media is gearing us up for war with them. Go look back at media coverage before Iraq/Afghanistan if you doubt me.
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Keep in mind the fact that US businesses don't give a rat's ass about security, (no need -- C-level just hit their yacht with their golden parachutes and congratulate themselves for a "synergistic optimization" if they get let go. Plus, there are no real regulations that has any effect on companies. Maybe the GDPR, but I'm sure that will be mainly used as a tool to beat down non-European countries, since they often call Google or Microsoft for a kangaroo court trial, but rarely clean their own house. Eur
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, because it means our media is gearing us up for war with them.
I wonder if the hawks were living in Seoul, would they be still willing to gear up for war? For those clueless Seoul is the major South Korean city that will be flatten from conventional artillery that is within range of NK.
Re:No shit sherlock (Score:5, Informative)
Is this something that normally happens here...a person willfully misinterprets another's argument, then advances points that have little or nothing to do with what was actually being discussed?
rsilvergun pointed out quite accurately that it is possible to track the chances of US military aggression by watching US "mainstream media". More and more stories intended to gin up anger, hatred and fear in the US population with respect to a prospective target means greater and greater chances that the US will attack.
The record of US news media in such situations is clear and easy to track. For example, in the run-up to the second invasion of Iraq, news and public affairs shows like "Meet the Press", "Face the Nation" and such featured nearly 300 interviews with "experts" who favoured some kind of military action in Iraq. Only three interviews were conducted with people who were unabashedly against any kind of intervention.
Did you really not know this?
Re:No shit sherlock (Score:4)
Is this something that normally happens here...a person willfully misinterprets another's argument, then advances points that have little or nothing to do with what was actually being discussed?
Not just here, it's everywhere now. Instead of having debates people just re-frame and start spooling out their standard talking points.
I think a lot of them aren't even aware they are doing it, they are just copying people they see making successful "arguments".
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I wish I could disagree with you.
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I doubt there is more than a little chance of that over time. He is far enough on the Left to regularly defend the horror show that is North Korea including stating, more or less verbatim that, "It's not so bad."
That is a bit too far for even the Guardian.
Revealed: the gas chamber horror of North Korea's gulag [theguardian.com]
How low will you go?
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Does war follow the news or does the news follow war? Unless the war is a spark like a surprise attack then it is a build up until the straw breaks the back. Sure, you can "track" the media and possibly conclude that war is inevitable but you are mixing up correlation and causation. War happens because of multiple events that are news worthy. Big shocker. Should the media not report that stuff?
The 2nd Iraq war was a buildup. Many things happened until war was inevitable. Those many things were reported on.
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Is this something that normally happens here...a person willfully misinterprets another's argument, then advances points that have little or nothing to do with what was actually being discussed?
Fairly common, yes, and you're doing a splendid job of it too. The appeal to emotion is a "nice" extra touch on your part.
... by watching US "mainstream media".
I like that you put mainstream media in quotes. Study after study shows that the typical newsroom is 80-90% "progressive"/Democrat. That would be fine except it seems to lead to a skewing of reporting on stories.
More and more stories intended to gin up anger, hatred and fear in the US population with respect to a prospective target means greater and greater chances that the US will attack.
This is where you go completely off the rails. Apparently in your mind one cannot approach matters of foreign policy on a rational basis based of facts. No! The only thing
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NK has a bunch of hackers, did anyone expect them to twiddle their thumbs and just sat there doing nothing?
Pretty much all you can do, unless you have computers. Does President Kim let them borrow his when they're on the job?
You mean to tell me NK has MORE THAN ONE computer?
get your data off the damn internet already (Score:1)
that shit don't need to be there, for fucking ducks' sake.
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that shit don't need to be there, for fucking ducks' sake.
Everyone thinks they need the internet.
Seems silly (Score:2, Offtopic)
Since the USA has enough military capability to "nuke the site from orbit, just to be sure", several times over, this seems like a wasted effort.
Do you care exactly how many megatons of nuclear warheads were used to eradicate you? Is this so NK can know exactly how much overkill the USA could bring to bear if they wished to do so?
Honestly, everybody involved knows the standoff is dependent on China and Russia as well as having Seoul within shelling range... almost nothing about the precise American capabil
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Apparently for you, dumping nuclear fallout in massive quantities on Japan, China, Russia and South Korea not a problem. So the fuck what if say millions people from those countries die of radiation poisoning, fuck em they are only commies and slope heads. Their view might be a little different, especially China as a million of their citizens dying from radiation poisoning and tens of thousands of hectares of farming land poisoned might not go down well, in fact so badly, that Honolulu would very likely sta
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Well actually they do, the amount is significantly less; all of the fission products will be there. If the EMP hits a nuclear reactor(which is much more likely in an airburst), start thinking Fukushima. Russia and China will have serious and legitimate concerns.
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Would would be "fallout" goes into stratosphere and gets distributed around the world. One could calculate a theoretical amount of harm to the populace that might do, but proving any one person had a disease because of it would be impossible.
You have misconception about EMP, that is from a burst done between certain altitudes. Also, you might want to read about the most recent experiments done on groups of normal automobilles with EMP levels ranging up the highest that could be encounted in an EMP attack
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I was thinking about an American reactor, California's electrical grid isn't known for it's robustness.
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Nice rant, shame it bears zero relation to what I wrote.
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Since the USA has enough military capability to "nuke the site from orbit, just to be sure", several times over, this seems like a wasted effort.
This isn't about stopping an American attack, it is about deterring it. If NK can learn enough about our ABM capabilities and counter our defenses enough so that we think they have a chance to take out a few west coast cities, then we aren't going to start a war by attacking them.
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>This isn't about stopping an American attack, it is about deterring it.
"everybody involved knows the standoff is dependent on China and Russia as well as having Seoul within shelling range."
I still don't see the point.
Everything beyond razing Seoul and the threat of a flood of refugees into China is more or less window dressing. Nobody wants to see that, so the available overwhelming force isn't used to destroy NK.
NK can learn all they want about US capability - there's simply so much of it relative to
You can't have this (Score:1)
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1. They're having a very difficult time with getting those missiles to leave the launch pad. It's almost as if something were swatting them down shortly after launch.
It's called technical incompetence.
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north korea can actually make a fusion weapon? I've only seen yields consistent with a boosted fission weapon. North Korea has no weapons with sufficient power to attack the USA with EMP. It's hot air.
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Yeah!!! Let's sacrifice the South Korean and Japanese. We'll show them we mean business....oh...wait a minute...they are our allies...maybe we should ask permission first before we rain nuclear fallout on their countries.
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We already have a capitalistic deep state threatening NK, so it's only natural they reply in kind.
Two to tango? (Score:3)
What is US counterintelligence doing?
Watch the contractor network and use lots of encryption. Compartmentalize projects and data. Just in time from just about any company is not secure.
The next question for the USA is the quality of its mil, gov and contractor human security.
Who is around your bases, ports offering mil/contractors pleasure, alcoholic beverages and cash for US secrets?
Start doing interviews and background reports on all mil officials and contractors.
Look for new wealth, holidays, police reports of loud parties, home improvements, a new car, unexpected shopping, gifts, changes in personality, boasting.
Look at the cell phone movements of at risk mil/contractors. Who are they meeting, talking to? What new cell phones do their cell phones stay next to for some time?
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I'd be inclined to just drop an appropriately-loaded flash drive or two around sites I was interested in and wait for it to be used where it might do me some good.
For example, there's a 512 GB drive called the "Patriot Supersonic Mega". What ultra-loyal, flag-waving military person could resist a name like that? Presented in a manner screaming "Unopened Original Packaging", I bet sooner or later it would wind up somewhere useful. If not, oh well. I just wasted a hundred bucks on a failed espionage attem
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Apart from Snowden most of the leaks have been CIA/NSA staff just leaving their malware and sourcecode lying around on staging servers for anyone who finds them to pilfer.
Yawn (Score:2, Insightful)
Sounds like the usual government/security-industrial-complex trolling for more funding/authority. Been there, heard that.
Exactly (Score:2)
Every country with internet infrastructure is attempting to hack, probe, manipulate every other country.
Why pick on NK?
Funny how dirty tricks are ok if we do it to them, but oh horror! They're trying to do it to us! Badness! "We" being any first world country.
Vault 8 has a few things to say about such claims. (Score:3, Interesting)
For those not paying attention Wikileaks have revealed extensive technical details about the CIA's ability to force certificates and plants traces into systems to frame people for the actions of the US security agencies.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/10/cia_kaspersky_fake_certs_ploy/
While I have no doubt that North Korea would gladly do so, but we need to face a few facts about the ability of the NK's to really do this much damage.
Wait a second... (Score:2, Funny)
That has to be propaganda. I've read North Korea doesn't even have computers.
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I've read North Korea doesn't even have computers.
Have you noticed how when you see North Korean TV news boardcasts in the west they are low quality analogue 4:3 images? Because NK only has 1960s level technology, right?
On NHK news broadcasts in Japan they show the full HD 1080i satellite feeds that NK transmits.
Encryption keys anyone. (Score:1)
Re: Encryption keys anyone. (Score:4, Informative)
All "our" phones are actually Chinese or Taiwanese or South Korean phones.
They may have all the backdoors in the world and the US would never know.
Re: For reference (Score:1)
Tip of the iceberg? (Score:2)
The only reason we do not hear of all those other countries hacking the US defence systems is either because they don't want to, or because they are better at it (than N.K.) and cover their tracks.
Rather than thinking that NK represents some sort of technol
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I'm sure when the NK government gives you an opportunity to learn to hack American computer systems, you take it. If you find your not suited to the task, you're free to go to the gulag where you will be starved to death while performing hard labor; at least you'll be with your family.
non news - been at us for the last 15 years+ (Score:1)
if anyone does network monitoring, and IPS/IDS stuff - this has been ongoing for the last 15 years.
either America media is an idiot, probably, or the media is an idiot for finally reporting what everyone like a teenage with a Linux box with a static IP and fail2ban has installed and monitoring the logs. set don't come back for a year or so.
just block transient countries from internet access to the US internet network assets and you have your hackers blocked..
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OK...new rule, the U.S. will henceforth cut itself off from the rest of the world's internet. By G-d, we'll stop'em. Go get'em Shiva!!! Pass me some ammunition!!
Re: Reject Washington war propaganda (Score:1)
I don't know how far you can count but I'm sure someone is capable of counting up to any amount of deaths.
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"IMO the scariest scenario is NK allying with an adversary of the US and it's allies and giving them a small nuclear weapon to smuggle out"
Yeah, this isn't new or unique to the current confrontation. This is, in fact, the basis for our policy towards NK for decades. Extra points for you when you name the primary and most visible partner of the NK regimes involved.
"NK represents the first and what will likely be the largest failure of the UN and US policy. Continually ignoring the buildup of weapons and fail
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It's certainly a threat to South Korea. I'm not at all sure about Japan, and it's not a threat to the US. Not even a Kim is dumb enough to start throwing nukes, because it would result in the annihilation of the North Korean government one way or another.
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Radiation...fallout...prevailing winds....cancer in America. See a progression doofus?
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The US propaganda seems to work at you. For the same reason one could think the US police is as incompetent and corrupt as Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane.