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Google Seeks To Defuse Row With Russia Over Website Rankings (reuters.com) 71

An anonymous reader shares a report: Google does not change its search algorithm to re-rank individual websites, it said in a letter to Russia's communications watchdog, after Moscow expressed concerns the search engine might discriminate against Russian media. The Roskomnadzor watchdog said earlier this month it would seek clarification from Google over whether it intentionally placed articles from Russian news websites Sputnik and Russia Today lower in search results. Responding to a question about Sputnik articles at a conference earlier in November, Alphabet Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt said Google was working to give less prominence to "those kinds of websites" as opposed to delisting them.
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Google Seeks To Defuse Row With Russia Over Website Rankings

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    I'm soooo glad Google is standing up to Russia!

  • by Anonymous Coward

    But we want your money and data please......

  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Monday November 27, 2017 @12:36PM (#55630679)

    Moscow expressed concerns the search engine might discriminate against Russian media.

    This should be filed under the "things to consider before you inject yourself into US politics" department.

    • It's pretty sad that we're now getting more "Russia narrative" submissions on the front page here at Slashdot than we are getting submissions about relevant stuff like Linux, programming, or sci-fi.

      If we do a Slashdot search for "russia" [slashdot.org], the earliest story on the first page of results is from October 30, 2017.

      If we do a Slashdot search for "linux" [slashdot.org], the earliest story on the first page of results is from October 21, 2017!

      So that means we get subjected to significantly more stories about this "Russia narrati

      • by Anonymous Coward
        Much of the news we read today is for generating clicks/eyeballs/ad revenue/polarizing discussion. I'd rather read a site dedicated to getting humanity off this rock through research and fundraising. Anybody know of one?
    • by Anonymous Coward

      It's difficult to avoid conflicts of interest when there's... well... conflicts of interest.

      I guess everybody did notice that Google don't use their famous original motto "Do no evil" anymore.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      This should be filed under the "things to consider before you inject yourself into US politics" department.

      Good advice for Google as well. If these Silicon Valley companies weren't so completely myopic in their Valley Values group-think they might have some influence in Washington today. It's not really surprising that Comcast wins at every turn; the telecoms — unlike Google, Facebook, etc. — don't go out of their way to alienate the majority party.

    • This should be filed under the "things to consider before you inject yourself into US politics" department.

      You Russiaphobes has as much evidence as the anti-vaxxers or Chem Trailers do to back up their bullshit. You fell for one piss-poor psyop with the Iraq War, and now you're doing it again. If only Powell knew he could have skipped that presenting-faked-evidence-to-the-UN thing, and just made a bunch of anonymous claims in the CIA-funded WaPo.

      Because people would just eat that shit up. With a spoon.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    But if you buy really stupid ads on Facebook then it's COLD WAR MODE v2.0!
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Noishkel ( 3464121 )
      Funny how net neutrality is in the news while at the same time Google is using it's own corporate influence to block other nation's access to the free flow of information. Which is exactly why I don't give a damn about it. It's nothing but different media corporations bitching over who gets the best access to the people they want to advertise shit to.
      • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Monday November 27, 2017 @01:28PM (#55631157)

        Funny how net neutrality is in the news while at the same time Google is using it's own corporate influence to block other nation's access to the free flow of information.

        Congratulations on winning the "I don't know what net neutrality is" award!

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Oh, they know. It's argumentum ad obfuscatum. Why bother to make valid points when you can simply muddy the water?

        • Congratulations on winning the "I don't know what net neutrality is" award!

          Pretty sure you're the one getting that award. Net neutrality is just a way of saying "don't make the major users of bandwidth like YouTube pay more for the service." The internet has been the wild west for a long time, regulations ALWAYS favor the people lobbying for them, which are the people with enough money to do so. Nobody is going to pay outright for a YouTube subscription and nobody is going to watch it at 14.4kb/s, so that means Google will be shelling out money to cover it, they will still make

        • Oh piss off. I know exactly what assholes like you say it is, I just know what the results of it actually are in practicality. And to be blunt I don't really give a shit either way, given that the real problems of the internet have nothing to do with who gets the sweet heart deal in terms of bandwidth. And in reality there's so much dark fiber sitting unused out there that we could expand well beyond what we have now. It's all just different media companies trying to one up one and other to get you to b
  • by ghoul ( 157158 ) on Monday November 27, 2017 @12:48PM (#55630771)

    The whole reason Silicon Valley can afford to pay huge salaries and create cutting edge work is because what they create is scalable. The money is spent once but can be sold to consumers all over the world at a very low marginal cost of production. Whether that is Operating Systems or Electric Cars.
    People all over the wold buy from the Microsofts and the Googles because they are considered apolitical. If these companies are seen as partisan and Patriotic than consumers and govts all over the world will pull a China and prop up local alternatives. Once the cheap marginal market goes away and its only the US Market you have left to sell too many ideas become non economic to execute . Once you cannot execute new ideas in Silicon Valley due to the cost, people with ideas will go away to cheaper locales to execute and you go into a downward spiral - fewer new ideas->fewer profitable IPOs -> fewer Angel funders ->Even fewer funding for new ideas-> fewer people moving to the Valley to execute->EVEN FEWER NEW IDEAS and so on.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Gravis Zero ( 934156 )

      If these companies are seen as partisan and Patriotic than consumers and govts all over the world will pull a China and prop up local alternatives.

      Actually, all other nations are also fighting Russia's meddling, so it's more likely that they would approve of these countermeasures. The mistake you are making is believing that the US is a one-off situation.

  • ...Google does not change its search algorithm to re-rank individual websites. They've never taken money to effectively censor information about things like the BP Gulf of Mexico oil disaster, have they?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Seems like Google is feeling invincible. Their only real revenue source is online advertising, so if coin mining replaces ads as a source of payment for content creators, they're going to have problems. Seems like Google power is peaking, sort of like Rockefeller right before oil pipelines made controlling railroad shipping irrelevant.

  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Monday November 27, 2017 @01:34PM (#55631221)

    Russia is one of the few topics that brings out the anon troll army. The other topics I've noticed have this effect are net neutrality and systemd. It's almost as if some powerful people don't want some topics discussed.

  • Google does not change its search algorithm to re-rank individual websites

    Of course not, they just make their algorithms include the material they want omitted, that way they also catch similar material.

  • How soon before SJW want that "search algorithm to re-rank individual websites" magic for their party political projects?
    No negative movie reviews around the time of a new movie release?
    Blasphemy?
    No news about illegal immigration?
    No negative comments about Communist leadership?
    Some books and authors have ideas and plots that need to be re-ranked?
    Some movies need to be re-ranked?
    Most of history needs to be hidden.
    Images and movies of political leaders not officially issued by their party?
    Comments ab

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