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James Damore Sues Google For Allegedly Discriminating Against Conservative White Men (theverge.com) 1175

An anonymous reader shares a report: The author of the controversial memo that upended Google in August is suing the company, alleging that white, male conservatives are systematically discriminated against by Google. James Damore was fired as an engineer after a manifesto questioning the benefits of diversity programs was widely passed around the company. In a new lawsuit, he and another fired engineer claim that "employees who expressed views deviating from the majority view at Google on political subjects raised in the workplace and relevant to Google's employment policies and its business, such as 'diversity' hiring policies, 'bias sensitivity,' or 'social justice,' were/are singled out, mistreated, and systematically punished and terminated from Google, in violation of their legal rights."
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James Damore Sues Google For Allegedly Discriminating Against Conservative White Men

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  • Finally (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TimothyHollins ( 4720957 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:01PM (#55887243)

    About damn time. Let's see if the courts are as willing as social media platforms to allow racism and discrimination as long as it's against the "right" people.

    • Re:Finally (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:47PM (#55887787)

      Leak internal company documents to the media to push your SJW agenda? Not a problem!

      Submit feedback as requested after a company training seminar? FIRED

      • Re:Finally (Score:4, Informative)

        by Pseudonym ( 62607 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @04:20PM (#55888245)

        I agree, the person who leaked it should at least be reprimanded. So tell me their name.

        Unless you have reason to think that Google knows, you can't conclude "no problem".

  • by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:05PM (#55887271) Journal
    Google was not only wrong to fire him, but Google's CEO Sundar Pichai should be fired for being inept. The man is fucking up Google in the worst possible ways.
    • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:08PM (#55887309) Journal

      Google was not only wrong to fire him, but Google's CEO Sundar Pichai should be fired for being inept.

      Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his politics, he caused google to get a lot of negative press (yes so did the leaker, but widely disemminating such a document massively increased the chance of a leak).

      Google as a corporate entity don't seem to care for much any more these days except the almighty dollar. Don't be evil! Lol! If you hurt the bottom line you're gone.

      • by RedK ( 112790 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:20PM (#55887465)

        but widely disemminating such a document massively increased the chance of a leak

        Except he did not "widely diseminate such a document". He had a "training seminar" and was asked for feedback, which he provided on an internal board reserved for such discussions internally.

        AKA : he did nothing wrong at all. Google got bad press because they force everyone into "diversity training" and then don't like it when people don't think "skin color" or "gender" is a good attribute to base hirings on and lets them know the "seminar" was simply bad.

        Did you even read the memo ?

  • by ErichTheRed ( 39327 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:16PM (#55887397)

    I work with a generally older male crowd, and some of them are quite vocal about their views on gender. Some are borderline MRA/MGTOW types, having been taken to the cleaners in divorces, etc. None are old enough to be adults back in the 50s when barely any married woman worked outside the home, but certainly some are old enough to look upon that time with nostalgia. The major thing that separates these guys from Mr. Damore is that they don't use company resources to promote their views, and their views don't really affect the work of others. I have to listen to them, but in reality they're no different than your traditional conservative white male talk radio-quoting types. They still do their jobs and don't anger anyone enough to make them complain.

    The thing that's different with Google is that I'm sure their legal counsel just told the executives to make the problem go away immediately. No company wants to deal with the expense of a lawsuit and the reputation hit of getting dragged into court because one of their employees is acting like a jerk. I know the company I work for would show me the door in 15 seconds if I personally caused any reputational damage, regardless of how internal the forum was, or how the information was leaked.

    What I wonder is why the Aspergers/autism angle wasn't used instead. That's a legitimate protected class. I work with a lot of tech company employees, and outside of the SV startup brogrammer world, there are _a lot_ of non-neurotypical types working for vendors. Once you get below the product managers and feature designer types, the ones doing the super-low level stuff like writing kernel modules and device drivers aren't exactly extroverts. Going after Google for discriminating against disabled people is a lot less clickbait-y than "conservative white males."

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:43PM (#55887729)

      What I want to know is if the person that leaked his private internal company document (that **he submitted at the request of google for feedback after a diversity training seminar**) was also fired? Because that's the person that turned it into a PR nightmare.

  • by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:17PM (#55887413)

    Sounds like they need an union! at the very least you can talk about employment policies with out getting canned for it.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:25PM (#55887529)

    ...as an engineer after a manifesto questioning the benefits of diversity programs....

    His manifesto did not question the benefits of the diversity program. It questioned its fficacy -- in other words, he questioned if Google could achieve more diversity by structuring the program differently.

    And that's a very big difference. I really hate the level of journalism being thrown at this topic, here and everywhere else.

  • do not settle (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mapkinase ( 958129 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:43PM (#55887733) Homepage Journal

    Please, do not settle for non-disclosure agrrement, not even if they offer you a billion dollars.

  • by McGruber ( 1417641 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:50PM (#55887853)

    According to the Santa Clara Superior Court's website, Damore's lead attorney is Harmeet Kaur Dhillon.

    Dhillon's Wikipedia entry [wikipedia.org] says she is the former vice chairman of the California Republican Party, and the National Committeewoman of the Republican National Committee for California. An article from the San Francisco Daily Journal posted on Dhillon's website [dhillonlaw.com] says she is a former American Civil Liberties board member.

    On March 9, the Wall Street Jounal reported [wsj.com] that she was being considered to run the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Department of Justice. She apparently interviewed with both Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump, but was not offered or did not accept the job.

    DuckDuckGoing her leads to lots of articles about her politics and personal life, but nothing about how many cases she has won. I bet Google will be represented by attorneys who have spent more time litigating and less time politicking.

  • by recrudescence ( 1383489 ) on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:54PM (#55887899)
    It was not a "manifesto", let alone an anti-diversity one. That's what it was called in the media. Big difference.

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